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2012-12-06 09:26:22 AM
Well... yeah? Why in the hell else would anyone want in the Big Ten.
 
2012-12-06 09:44:04 AM
fullcircle.asu.edu

Nerd Bowl!
 
2012-12-06 09:59:09 AM
The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?
 
2012-12-06 10:02:33 AM
So academics are the reason Maryland left the ACC. Who knew?
 
2012-12-06 10:03:16 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?


It is probably the best public university academic conference in the US.
 
2012-12-06 10:05:43 AM

basemetal: [fullcircle.asu.edu image 640x480]

Nerd Bowl!


We also pick the girl.

/farking troll headline. Northwestern is nationally known for its academics in comparison to Ivy's
 
2012-12-06 10:06:51 AM

satanorsanta: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?

It is probably the best public university academic conference in the US.


And the two private members of the CIC aren't too shabby either.
 
2012-12-06 10:14:48 AM
Cotton: We're coming to you live from the Las Vegas University Learning Annex...
 
2012-12-06 10:16:10 AM
Wanna see my academic arm?

*Unzips fly*
 
2012-12-06 10:17:34 AM
At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."
 
2012-12-06 10:28:58 AM
Look subby, just because your SEC school allows footballer players to graduate by putting the round peg in the round hole doesn't mean there aren't schools that actually require, you know a education.
 
2012-12-06 10:34:40 AM

poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."


/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head
 
2012-12-06 10:39:21 AM

Mentat: poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."

/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head


Say what? I root for NFC teams.
 
2012-12-06 10:47:42 AM

poughdrew: Mentat: poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."

/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head

Say what? I root for NFC teams.


You realize you just declared yourself the Fark Independent of the sports world?
 
2012-12-06 10:51:22 AM
I thought membership to the CIC was one of the big drivers for Maryland and Rutgers joining B10 at all, not football or whatever subby is suggesting. I would guess the majority of B10 schools would consider themselves academics first then athletics, even the stereotypical "athletics" schools like OSU and UM.

At least when I'm rolling in tech circles, B10 degrees carry a lot of weight and probably 80% of the people I interact with at least have one degree from one of them. Disclosure that I'm in the middle of Illinois - lots of U of I, OSU, IA, UW grads hereabouts. There's good-natured (generally) ribbing about this and that team in fball and bball but there's definitely B10 solidarity in education.
 
2012-12-06 11:02:23 AM

poughdrew: Mentat: poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."

/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head

Say what? I root for NFC teams.


Don't you know that the worst of the SEC would easily curb stomp the best of the NFC?

According to any SEC Homer, it'd be no contest
 
2012-12-06 11:32:22 AM
As a graduate of a B1G school, i can confirm that math departments must be a wart on the elbow of this so called academic arm.
 
2012-12-06 11:34:22 AM

Mentat: poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."

/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head


Well...he's not wrong.
 
2012-12-06 12:06:09 PM

Electromax: I thought membership to the CIC was one of the big drivers for Maryland and Rutgers joining B10 at all, not football or whatever subby is suggesting. I would guess the majority of B10 schools would consider themselves academics first then athletics, even the stereotypical "athletics" schools like OSU and UM.

At least when I'm rolling in tech circles, B10 degrees carry a lot of weight and probably 80% of the people I interact with at least have one degree from one of them. Disclosure that I'm in the middle of Illinois - lots of U of I, OSU, IA, UW grads hereabouts. There's good-natured (generally) ribbing about this and that team in fball and bball but there's definitely B10 solidarity in education.


The #1 driver for Maryland was the huge increase in revenue. Our former AD created a ridiculous budget while spending all our long term savings and left when the well was dry. But the CIC was the icing on the cake and I don't know if we would have made the move if it didn't make the University itself any better.
 
2012-12-06 12:17:01 PM
CIC was a huge part of the reason Nebraska joined the Big (12+/-2) a few years ago.
 
2012-12-06 12:21:09 PM
Maybe some year theyll win the Jeopardy college tournamemt.
 
2012-12-06 12:36:04 PM

Mentat: poughdrew: At least this is something a graduate can put on their resume, such as "research fellowship blah blah blah under CIC".

An SEC graduate can put "watched conference football team (not necessarily mine) win games."

/pats fan of second-rate football conference on the head


/pats graduate of 5th rate academic conference on the head.
// Pac12 is 2nd best football conference this year by conference rankings.
 
2012-12-06 12:36:33 PM
So I was going to post a picture of a stump arm with a caption "The Academic Arm of the SEC", but then I did a GIS for stump arm and now I'm sad and depressed and I won't post a picture and I won't come back to this thread because there's probably some farker out there who thinks it's funny to make me more depressed and disgusted because s/he's an asshole farker.

/clearing search history now
//some people do crazy stump tattoos
i lowercase italicized "i" is like the stump arm of the slashy kingdom, only with a dot on top
 
2012-12-06 12:46:26 PM
For the record, this www.duetsblog.com irritates me. Change the damn name to reflect the number of teams in the conference.
 
2012-12-06 12:55:21 PM
yup, apparently subby doesn't understand that while schools joining the big ten do get a sizable income for their sports through tv deals and whatnot, it is a pittance compared to the research grants and opportunities that they now have access to on the academic side of things, and that the conference makes sure every school gets support for projects.

Can't wait for the FRIB at MSU to be completed
 
2012-12-06 01:12:53 PM

DubyaHater: For the record, this [B1G] irritates me. Change the damn name to reflect the number of teams in the conference.


That's the point of the logo. If you squint, the G looks like a 6. So that they won't have to change it again when the Illuminati changes the Big Ten to a 16-team conference.
 
2012-12-06 01:35:16 PM
Threadjack: My girlfriend's parents are pretty heavy-hitters in regards to fundraising for Indiana. Result? This PAC-12 alumnus (Big 8 when I graduated. Shut up. Get off my lawn) gets to watch Michigan-Indiana B1G hoops this February in Assembly Hall from center court, second row.

/Threadjack
 
2012-12-06 01:35:48 PM
I'm not surprised the Big Ten has an academic arm.
I am surprised there are still colleges notionally attached to the professional minor-league sports teams in the SEC.
 
2012-12-06 01:36:01 PM

Moopy Mac: satanorsanta: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?

It is probably the best public university academic conference in the US.

And the two private members of the CIC aren't too shabby either.


Wait, two? I thought University of Chicago was the only one.
 
2012-12-06 01:36:36 PM

DubyaHater: For the record, this [www.duetsblog.com image 220x120] irritates me. Change the damn name to reflect the number of teams in the conference.


It's a farking stupid logo no matter what.
 
2012-12-06 01:38:25 PM

JosephFinn: DubyaHater: For the record, this [www.duetsblog.com image 220x120] irritates me. Change the damn name to reflect the number of teams in the conference.

It's a farking stupid logo no matter what.


I miss the old one.

Once you see the eleven....you never unsee it
 
2012-12-06 02:13:55 PM

Aar1012: JosephFinn: DubyaHater: For the record, this [www.duetsblog.com image 220x120] irritates me. Change the damn name to reflect the number of teams in the conference.

It's a farking stupid logo no matter what.

I miss the old one.

Once you see the eleven....you never unsee it


A curly 1?

JosephFinn: And the two private members of the CIC aren't too shabby either.

Wait, two? I thought University of Chicago was the only one.


Northwestern is private too.
 
2012-12-06 02:14:14 PM

JosephFinn: Moopy Mac: satanorsanta: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?

It is probably the best public university academic conference in the US.

And the two private members of the CIC aren't too shabby either.

Wait, two? I thought University of Chicago was the only one.


Northwestern.
 
2012-12-06 02:32:15 PM
qph.cf.quoracdn.net
 
2012-12-06 02:36:36 PM

Wadded Beef: Threadjack: My girlfriend's parents are pretty heavy-hitters in regards to fundraising for Indiana. Result? This PAC-12 alumnus (Big 8 when I graduated. Shut up. Get off my lawn) gets to watch Michigan-Indiana B1G hoops this February in Assembly Hall from center court, second row.

/Threadjack


On paper that may be the most compelling/best game in NCAA basketball all season.
 
2012-12-06 02:40:10 PM
If it's news to you that Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, etc., etc., have really good academic schools then you're not paying attention.
 
2012-12-06 02:54:20 PM

meanmutton: If it's news to you that Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, etc., etc., have really good academic schools then you're not paying attention.


Even people paying sort of light attention might not realize that the CIC exists. I didn't until it got mentioned a lot during that first big burst of realignment a few years ago, even though I did know that most of the Big Ten were really good universities (probably the best top-to-bottom of all the major athletic conferences).

/Pac-12 is better at the top
//Shame about the Arizona schools bringing down the average
 
2012-12-06 03:11:36 PM

meanmutton: If it's news to you that Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, etc., etc., have really good academic schools then you're not paying attention.


This.

I'm one of the few people in Wisconsin that doesn't have an undying love for UW-Madison (for a variety of reasons) and even I can see that that school is a great school
 
2012-12-06 03:14:03 PM

meanmutton: If it's news to you that Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, etc., etc., have really good academic schools then you're not paying attention.


I just noticed that Indiana and Nebraska are the only two schools ranked by USNews lower than MSU. I really thought IU would be higher.

Rutgers will be the lowest ranked when it joins.

/Reminds me when I was 17 looking at stupid college guides.
 
2012-12-06 04:28:32 PM

Moopy Mac: meanmutton: If it's news to you that Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, etc., etc., have really good academic schools then you're not paying attention.

I just noticed that Indiana and Nebraska are the only two schools ranked by USNews lower than MSU. I really thought IU would be higher.

Rutgers will be the lowest ranked when it joins.

/Reminds me when I was 17 looking at stupid college guides.


IU and Purdue are really hurt in rankings by the fact that they are mirrors of each other. If one of them has a good program, the other one basically ignores it. So neither is a very well rounded school.
 
2012-12-06 04:42:38 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?


No the CiC is the academic arm. The Big Ten operates sans UChicago since they cancelled all their sports, but they remained a full member on the academic side.

UChicago, Michigan, and Northwestern are a damn strong academic foundation. Toss in Wisconsin and Purdue Engineering and we're one of the best overall groups in the world.

/except for Michigan State
 
2012-12-06 04:50:55 PM

JohnAnnArbor: [qph.cf.quoracdn.net image 296x323]


Before I heard that story I saw that shirt at one of the bookstores and just thought UM students were stuck up.

/many are
//still great to be a Michigan Wolverine
 
2012-12-06 06:07:06 PM

ha-ha-guy: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?

No the CiC is the academic arm. The Big Ten operates sans UChicago since they cancelled all their sports, but they remained a full member on the academic side.

UChicago, Michigan, and Northwestern are a damn strong academic foundation. Toss in Wisconsin and Purdue Engineering and we're one of the best overall groups in the world.

/except for Michigan State


University of Chicago didn't cancel their sports. In fact, they won as many football games as Indiana did this year.
 
2012-12-06 06:45:23 PM

Moopy Mac: ha-ha-guy: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Big Ten IS an academic arm. It's practically an academic conference before it is an athletic one. Where has subby been?

No the CiC is the academic arm. The Big Ten operates sans UChicago since they cancelled all their sports, but they remained a full member on the academic side.

UChicago, Michigan, and Northwestern are a damn strong academic foundation. Toss in Wisconsin and Purdue Engineering and we're one of the best overall groups in the world.

/except for Michigan State

University of Chicago didn't cancel their sports. In fact, they won as many football games as Indiana did this year.


Iu didn't even have the worst record in the big Ten
 
2012-12-06 07:15:24 PM
 
2012-12-06 07:19:27 PM
B1G is the only conference outside of Ivy that has all members also part of AAU, which requires a fairly high academic benchmark. And of course the only one at all where most members are public AND all are members of AAU. We're definitely more about academic than athletic achievement.
 
2012-12-06 07:33:22 PM

aharown: B1G is the only conference outside of Ivy that has all members also part of AAU, which requires a fairly high academic benchmark. And of course the only one at all where most members are public AND all are members of AAU. We're definitely more about academic than athletic achievement.


Nebraska lost their membership shortly after joining the Big Ten.
 
2012-12-06 08:25:13 PM

bacongood: IU and Purdue are really hurt in rankings by the fact that they are mirrors of each other.


Also, they're both in Indiana, which is a bad place.
 
2012-12-06 10:08:54 PM

aharown: B1G is the only conference outside of Ivy that has all members also part of AAU, which requires a fairly high academic benchmark.


Wrong, Nebraska is not in AAU.
 
2012-12-06 10:19:12 PM

MyRandomName: // Pac12 is 2nd best football conference this year by conference rankings.


Is that why the Pac-12 is playing the the NCG?
 
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