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(CBS Pittsburgh)   Trooper gets fired for filing report in ebonics. They don't think it be like it is, but it do   (pittsburgh.cbslocal.com ) divider line
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2012-12-06 12:34:11 AM  
whysoblu.com
Excuse me chief... I speak Jive
 
2012-12-06 12:52:02 AM  
TF gets it done quick, damn.

/leaving too soon for satisfaction
 
2012-12-06 04:39:03 AM  
Then learn to write, jackass.
 
2012-12-06 05:07:36 AM  
 
2012-12-06 07:17:05 AM  
That's racist!
 
2012-12-06 07:35:05 AM  
Is "not worthy of belief" the new way of saying it may be true but we'd rather you didn't look into it any further?
 
2012-12-06 08:54:28 AM  
Ain't nobody be believin' him no how.
 
2012-12-06 08:55:11 AM  
fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-06 09:14:31 AM  
Cutty say 'e can't HANG!
 
2012-12-06 09:17:10 AM  
It's racism if you axe me
 
2012-12-06 09:17:52 AM  

borg: [whysoblu.com image 525x296]
Excuse me chief... I speak Jive


Thread. Over.
 
2012-12-06 09:21:45 AM  
At first he be all like "I am be da man" then he be all like "I Ain't"

And they lose another police translator.
 
2012-12-06 09:24:07 AM  

loki see loki do: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!


You know what they say... See a broad, to get that booty, yak 'em, leg 'er down 'n smack 'em yak 'em.

Cold got to be! You know? Sheeiiiiiiiit.
 
2012-12-06 09:25:47 AM  
2 weeks or so ago a black officer was filmed threatening to murder a man who was not being violent or even breaking the law... he's was found to be justified in said actions. This clown will be back on the job soon too.
 
2012-12-06 09:25:56 AM  
Why can't he file the report in Ebonics? People can file them in Spanish, Vietnamese, Yiddish, etc. so why not Ebonics?

OH WAIT -- you mean we need one language, one values system, and one culture to unite us for efficiency, if not for the fact that otherwise, our country falls apart?

Say it ain't so!
 
2012-12-06 09:31:02 AM  

sodomizer: Why can't he file the report in Ebonics? People can file them in Spanish, Vietnamese, Yiddish, etc. so why not Ebonics?

OH WAIT -- you mean we need one language, one values system, and one culture to unite us for efficiency, if not for the fact that otherwise, our country falls apart?

Say it ain't so!


this my friends is an example of a TROLLOLOLOL.
notice the amount u laughed when u read it.
notice the amount someone replies to this post.

notice the croaking crickets
 
2012-12-06 09:32:11 AM  

OnlyM3: 2 weeks or so ago a black officer was filmed threatening to murder a man who was not being violent or even breaking the law... he's was found to be justified in said actions. This clown will be back on the job soon too.


"Do the cops WANT him back" is the question. When it's a guy they like (not necessarily a good cop, just someone they want to keep as a cop - or maybe the union doesn't want to be made the government's biatch), they'll pretend that kid handcuffed in the back shot himself in the head, but when it's a bad/disliked cop, your grammar becomes a fireable offense.
 
2012-12-06 09:33:35 AM  
No worries the checking cashing place will accept his checks
i26.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-06 09:33:46 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Then learn to write, jackass.


Learn to read, jackass.

From the article: "...false claims that he didn't properly write reports, and sometimes used Ebonics in doing so..."
 
2012-12-06 09:33:58 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
"Like Momma said, it be's that way sometimes."
 
2012-12-06 09:34:30 AM  

sodomizer: Why can't he file the report in Ebonics? People can file them in Spanish, Vietnamese, Yiddish, etc. so why not Ebonics?

OH WAIT -- you mean we need one language, one values system, and one culture to unite us for efficiency, if not for the fact that otherwise, our country falls apart?

Say it ain't so!


Because Ebonics isn't a language, it's uneducated slang. There is a reason it was denied being taught as a language in schools.
 
2012-12-06 09:34:43 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: sodomizer: Why can't he file the report in Ebonics? People can file them in Spanish, Vietnamese, Yiddish, etc. so why not Ebonics?

OH WAIT -- you mean we need one language, one values system, and one culture to unite us for efficiency, if not for the fact that otherwise, our country falls apart?

Say it ain't so!

this my friends is an example of a TROLLOLOLOL.
notice the amount u laughed when u read it.
notice the amount someone replies to this post.

notice the croaking crickets


Except you replied and no one laughed.
 
2012-12-06 09:39:47 AM  
The first time I had ever heard anyone say "I been done that" I couldn't understand what he was trying to communicate for the life of me. I had to get my wife to translate.

/csb
 
2012-12-06 09:39:57 AM  
Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.
 
2012-12-06 09:40:25 AM  

Staffist: Better article here.


"Plaintiff was judge by different and more harsh standards than other probationary troopers, because of his race"

Shouldn't that be: "Plaintiff be judge..."?
 
2012-12-06 09:44:43 AM  

Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.


Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess
 
2012-12-06 09:45:46 AM  
"Lack of solid job knowledge" and "public safety concerns" are why he was fired? Or was it the ebonics?

Reason I ask is that "solid job knowledge/public safety concerns" and "Cop" don't exactly go together anyhow.
 
2012-12-06 09:46:28 AM  
Quit lowering testing standards for "minorities"
 
2012-12-06 09:47:22 AM  

OhioUGrad: Because Ebonics isn't a language, it's uneducated slang. There is a reason it was denied being taught as a language in schools.


I disagree here. It has clear roots in African-American linguistic use, from Gullah through northern dialects, over the past 200 years or so.

Whether it's "educated" or not makes not a whit of difference to me.

We could also view English as a slang form of Swedish, or Yiddish as a slang form of Hebrew. Doesn't make them any less 2legit2quit as languages.
 
2012-12-06 09:50:32 AM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-12-06 09:53:02 AM  
Ebonics is the reason Disney retired Song of the South.
 
2012-12-06 09:53:17 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.

Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess


You do know police reports are written, not spoken right? Even if you say "warsh" when refering to "wash", if you have an education past the 8th grade it is still spelled w a s h
 
2012-12-06 09:54:53 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Frowns on these shenanigans...
(hot)
 
2012-12-06 09:57:36 AM  

Joe Blowme: Quit lowering testing standards for "minorities"


"Leveling the playing field" means lowering the standards
 
2012-12-06 10:00:37 AM  

Joe Blowme: Dr Dreidel: Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.

Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess

You do know police reports are written, not spoken right? Even if you say "warsh" when refering to "wash", if you have an education past the 8th grade it is still spelled w a s h


OP: "Part of his job is to have to testify in court"

So he can write the report (which I assume also involves a superior giving it the once-over before filing it - to catch things like spelling errors and to tighten the language, just like any other report), and then if a trial makes an issue with the facts or characterizations in it, the officer can SPEAK to what the discrepancy is or appears to be.
 
2012-12-06 10:02:52 AM  
sodomizer
I disagree here. It has clear roots in African-American linguistic use, from Gullah through northern dialects, over the past 200 years or so.

Whether it's "educated" or not makes not a whit of difference to me.

We could also view English as a slang form of Swedish, or Yiddish as a slang form of Hebrew. Doesn't make them any less 2legit2quit as languages.,


The the big problem with "ebonics" as a language compared with English stem from the fact that "ebonics" changes constantly. You might say the same with English, and it's true, English does evolve over time, but with ebonics those changes occur very rapidly and unevenly throughout the population. So for instance, someone in Baltimore speaking ebonics might say "shiznit" while someone else in LA says "shizzy" or something.

Basically, people seem to make up the rules for ebonics as they go along and that seems to be part of the appeal for some people, but as a language on which society operates, especially on an official level, it is woefully inadequate and would lead to confusion and mistranslations. 

Unless, that is, there is an agreed upon version of shiznit that Gullah can clarify for us...
 
2012-12-06 10:04:09 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Joe Blowme: Dr Dreidel: Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.

Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess

You do know police reports are written, not spoken right? Even if you say "warsh" when refering to "wash", if you have an education past the 8th grade it is still spelled w a s h

OP: "Part of his job is to have to testify in court"

So he can write the report (which I assume also involves a superior giving it the once-over before filing it - to catch things like spelling errors and to tighten the language, just like any other report), and then if a trial makes an issue with the facts or characterizations in it, the officer can SPEAK to what the discrepancy is or appears to be.


U be trippin
 
2012-12-06 10:11:38 AM  

Onkel Buck: Joe Blowme: Quit lowering testing standards for "minorities"

"Leveling the playing field" means lowering the standards


And here i thought we were all supposed to be equal, some are more equal than others i guess.
Just what we need, lower standards for law enforcement.
 
2012-12-06 10:13:34 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Joe Blowme: Dr Dreidel: Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.

Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess

You do know police reports are written, not spoken right? Even if you say "warsh" when refering to "wash", if you have an education past the 8th grade it is still spelled w a s h

OP: "Part of his job is to have to testify in court"

So he can write the report (which I assume also involves a superior giving it the once-over before filing it - to catch things like spelling errors and to tighten the language, just like any other report), and then if a trial makes an issue with the facts or characterizations in it, the officer can SPEAK to what the discrepancy is or appears to be.


Accents are one thing, making up your own language is another.
 
2012-12-06 10:14:47 AM  
Ebonics would have killed the Miss America pageant. Nobody would have been willing to be Miss Idaho.
 
2012-12-06 10:16:39 AM  
annndddd the top comment wins it!


You're not being fired because you're black. You were HIRED because you're black. You're being fired because it turns out you're kind of stupid. .
 
2012-12-06 10:16:41 AM  
I still LOL'd @ the headline

/DNR
 
2012-12-06 10:21:54 AM  
Was he flabbergasted??
 
2012-12-06 10:22:31 AM  

sodomizer: OhioUGrad: Because Ebonics isn't a language, it's uneducated slang. There is a reason it was denied being taught as a language in schools.

I disagree here. It has clear roots in African-American linguistic use, from Gullah through northern dialects, over the past 200 years or so.

Whether it's "educated" or not makes not a whit of difference to me.

We could also view English as a slang form of Swedish, or Yiddish as a slang form of Hebrew. Doesn't make them any less 2legit2quit as languages.


Believe you're referring to African American dialect, not Ebonics.
 
2012-12-06 10:22:58 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Citrate1007: Part of his job is to have to testify in court........his reports were jeopardizing convictions.

Assuming he was speaking English, is there some barrier to understanding created when someone uses a dialect? Do they fire Yinzer officers for not using the verb form "to be"? Do they fire southern officers with a draaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl y'all? Do officers in Chicago and Detroit have to tone down the "AH"s for O's business? When a midwesterner moves to the East Coast, do we ban them from referring to "PAHP" and force them to only call it "soda" (or "coke" if they're in more moranic parts of the south)?

There are police officers from Brooklyn. Your argument is invalid.

// don't know why I'm picking on the Rusty Midwest
// they talk funny, I guess


Did you say yutes? What's a yute?
 
2012-12-06 10:24:42 AM  

Joe Blowme: Accents are one thing, making up your own language is another.


Right. If you can still understand me while I speak my dialect, though...

// and Yiddish is to Hebrew what Fraternities are to Greek
// borrowed the character set from Hebrew, but most of the (non-liturgical) words are German or Russian (with a little English)
// an Israeli wouldn't have a clue what a Yiddish speaker was saying, but a German speaker would have almost no problem understanding
 
2012-12-06 10:25:01 AM  
Seems like this would be a fairly simple case. Examine his reports. If they are written in Ebonics, then uphold the firing. If they are not, look further into his claims.
 
2012-12-06 10:27:26 AM  
www.capc.co.uk
 
2012-12-06 10:31:03 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Joe Blowme: Accents are one thing, making up your own language is another.

Right. If you can still understand me while I speak my dialect, though...

// and Yiddish is to Hebrew what Fraternities are to Greek
// borrowed the character set from Hebrew, but most of the (non-liturgical) words are German or Russian (with a little English)
// an Israeli wouldn't have a clue what a Yiddish speaker was saying, but a German speaker would have almost no problem understanding


So are you defending the use of ebonics? Or just pointing out similarities in other languages and their slang?
 
2012-12-06 10:38:04 AM  
So do caucasians speak Ivorionics?
 
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