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2012-12-05 08:14:14 PM
Subby and Kos are idiots. TFA is about future expectations, not recent performance. Darden naturally seized an opportunity to blame its lower growth expectations on someone else.
 
2012-12-05 08:23:37 PM
Free markets at their best.

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2012-12-05 08:40:17 PM
And soon, even crappier service.

My ex-brother in law ran a restaurant in Philly for decades (the Melrose Diner), and every single damned employee had health benefits. If HE could do it, so could they.
 
2012-12-05 09:16:04 PM
The food is really f*cking horrible. I loathe having to go to those f*cking places. Thankfully, it's only once or twice a decade.

"But I have a coupon!"

"Awwww... f*ck your coupon! Let's just go to a pub and I'll pay."
 
2012-12-05 09:23:37 PM
For being Job Creators, they're the most butthurt bunch I've ever seen.
 
2012-12-05 09:27:41 PM
When I'm with mom she always wants to eat at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. Always. We'll go out of our way to find one. I suspect this is her way of making up for the fact she didn't beat me as a child.
 
2012-12-05 09:43:51 PM
rl and og make me gag.
 
2012-12-05 09:54:57 PM

trivial use of my dark powers: I suspect this is her way of making up for the fact she didn't beat me as a child.



Seems like a pretty poor trade.
 
2012-12-05 10:04:12 PM
They should charge for breadsticks. That shiat is like crack.
 
2012-12-05 10:07:55 PM

kmmontandon: trivial use of my dark powers: I suspect this is her way of making up for the fact she didn't beat me as a child.


Seems like a pretty poor trade.


Death will end my suffering, and the more we eat there the sooner my sweet release will arrive.

Hey! Maybe it's a really slow murder-suicide plan.
 
2012-12-05 10:09:10 PM
As long as they don't fire the authentic Tuscan-trained chef in the kitchen of the Olive Garden, I'll be okay.
 
2012-12-05 10:32:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Subby and Kos are idiots. TFA is about future expectations, not recent performance. Darden naturally seized an opportunity to blame its lower growth expectations on someone else.


Yeah, this isn't the last of these stories we'll be seeing, either. You'll see other companies trying to blame their woes on "Obamacare." "We'd be profitable if 0Bummer Fartbongo didn't make us buy birth control pills for our slutty employees."
 
2012-12-05 10:34:50 PM
I would cut Grandma for a Red Lobster cheddar bay biscuit.
 
2012-12-05 10:39:41 PM
Here's a story from NBC on the impact of the derp: Obamacare rhetoric guts Papa John's reputation
 
2012-12-05 10:49:47 PM

reported: Here's a story from NBC on the impact of the derp: Obamacare rhetoric guts Papa John's reputation


I don't even think that's really related to politics, or what people think about "Obamacare", however. People are concerned that employees will be demoralized by the fact that their bosses seem to not give a damn about them, so they're afraid they'll get a pizza or a Moons Over My Hammy full of spit or other bodily fluids.

/don't ask about the clam chowder
 
2012-12-05 11:16:17 PM

trivial use of my dark powers: When I'm with mom she always wants to eat at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. Always. We'll go out of our way to find one. I suspect this is her way of making up for the fact she didn't beat me as a child.


I know that people like familiar things, but on the extremely rare occasions when I'm forced through Times Square it always bothers me to see the Red Lobster and the Olive Garden full. Not that I have anything against the existence of Red Lobster, Olive Garden, etc. They serve their purpose. But it's like...come on, tourists. Branch out a bit. You can get that at home.
 
2012-12-05 11:28:55 PM
gee, ya think that maybe customers want to know that their food isn't being cooked and served by a bunch of plague bearers unable to afford basic health care...?

nah! free market baby! supersize my dinner with a side of Hepatitis!
 
2012-12-05 11:53:10 PM
They will have to combine into a single entity to survive!

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2012-12-05 11:55:24 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: As long as they don't fire the authentic Tuscan-trained chef in the kitchen of the Olive Garden, I'll be okay.


You mean the essentially paid-for Italian holiday they really enjoyed

/i know, [thatsthejoke,jpg]
 
2012-12-06 12:23:02 AM
Fine dining they are not. But "horrible"? Lighten the fark up Francis.

anyway, I hope their bottom line takes a huge dive.
 
2012-12-06 03:01:57 AM

Weaver95: gee, ya think that maybe customers want to know that their food isn't being cooked and served by a bunch of plague bearers unable to afford basic health care...?

nah! free market baby! supersize my dinner with a side of Hepatitis!


Your immune system doesn't sound very bootstrappy.
 
2012-12-06 03:18:32 AM
I find the food at Red Lobster and Olive Garden to be acceptable. Further, I've had good to great service at both.

My problem is with the price.

I can get much better food and service for $5-$10 less at the local mom'n'pop places.

To wit, a local place serves me excellent Chinese for $7 a plate. If the Olive Garden can match that, I'll eat there. Typically, the Olive Garden will cost me $14-$16 for a dinner with tax and tip while I can get out of the Chinese place for $8. Compete with that and I'll go there.

Further, I can cook a great meal at home for $2-$5.
 
2012-12-06 03:29:34 AM
All too easy.

Knowing how much Farkers LOVE bagging on OG and RL I figured I had a pretty good chance. The Obamacare angle sure couldn't hurt. But DAMN, I got the greenlight notification barely 10 minutes after I submitted it. Never seen it happen that fast before.

/subby, obviously.


BarkingUnicorn: Subby and Kos are idiots.


4.bp.blogspot.com

Got me a green, didn't it?
 
2012-12-06 03:43:01 AM
Darden Restaurants, the parent company of Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Longhorn Steakhouse and other chains is facing lawsuits for violating labor laws, The suit now has over 50 plaintiffs and could include thousands of current and former employees. Darden is accused of failing to pay federally mandated minimum wage and forcing waiters and waitresses to work "off the clock" before or after their shifts. The suit also claims employees were not paid overtime wages for working in excess of 40 hours in a week.

I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they pay some employees, like dishwashers and busboys, with a debit card. So they never see a pay stub with their hours and wages detailed. The company just loads money onto their debit card.
 
2012-12-06 03:46:02 AM
 
2012-12-06 03:56:36 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: They should charge for breadsticks. That shiat is like crack.


You're not supposed to smoke them.
 
2012-12-06 03:58:37 AM

log_jammin: propasaurus: I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they pay some employees, like dishwashers and busboys, with a debit card. So they never see a pay stub with their hours and wages detailed. The company just loads money onto their debit card.

yup


Darden, which owns and operates 1,300 Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze and Smokey Bones Barbeque & Grill restaurants, will give its 140,000 U.S. employees the option of having their pay placed on a PAYCHEK PLUS! payroll card. Instead of a paper check, employees who sign up for the program will receive what looks like an ATM card loaded with their weekly salary. The card may be used at ATMs and retail point-of-sale terminals across America.


I would say only a complete dumbass would agree to that form of payment, but then I realized we're talking about OG/RL employees.
 
2012-12-06 04:00:18 AM

Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: They should charge for breadsticks. That shiat is like crack.

You're not supposed to smoke them.


Well, duh. You inject them.
 
2012-12-06 04:02:38 AM

NewportBarGuy: The food is really f*cking horrible. I loathe having to go to those f*cking places. Thankfully, it's only once or twice a decade.

"But I have a coupon!"

"Awwww... f*ck your coupon! Let's just go to a pub and I'll pay."


Yeah, my own family loves The Olive Garden. They dragged me there once and it was a mix of bland food and over-salted grossness.
 
2012-12-06 04:03:43 AM
I think I've been to Olive Garden once. It must have been the Spring on 2001. Back in the day I raced mountain bikes and I raced XC (running). I would carbo load the day before the race and one race me and my gf went out to dinner together, a date I suppose but with a training/pre-race goal. This was way back when they had the never ending pasta bowl, and boy did I get my money's worth. It's worth mentioning that one of the bowls had one of those twist tie thingies that used to come in ziplock baggies boxes and because of that we got a free dessert. In total that night I ate 13 bowls of pasta, one after the dessert. It was particularly amusing because the waitress started getting a little sketched out and and nervousy after the tenth bowl. She said that she simply couldn't imagine how I could eat that much pasta. Fortunately she came by the table enough to confirm that I was in fact eating the pasta. It was truly a great feat in eating. Food was middlling IIRC, but there sure was a lot of it, they did leave stuff in my food but I got a desert. I don't think I really have anyt strong feelings (positive or negative) about Olive Garden so instead I'll have shared a story that ends hereish

\Anyways... won the race and got the girl, so win.
 
2012-12-06 04:04:58 AM

Summoner101: log_jammin: propasaurus: I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they pay some employees, like dishwashers and busboys, with a debit card. So they never see a pay stub with their hours and wages detailed. The company just loads money onto their debit card.

yup


Darden, which owns and operates 1,300 Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze and Smokey Bones Barbeque & Grill restaurants, will give its 140,000 U.S. employees the option of having their pay placed on a PAYCHEK PLUS! payroll card. Instead of a paper check, employees who sign up for the program will receive what looks like an ATM card loaded with their weekly salary. The card may be used at ATMs and retail point-of-sale terminals across America.

I would say only a complete dumbass would agree to that form of payment, but then I realized we're talking about OG/RL employees.


Or a Haitian immigrant:

[Maurose] Frantz washes dishes at the Capital Grille restaurant, a posh steak house near the harbor in Miami's financial district. He nets $200 for a twenty-seven-hour week and receives no food stamps or government assistance of any kind... At the end of the week, Frantz gets an ATM card with his pay already loaded onto it. Sometimes when he clocks out at the end of the night, he says, he finds he's already been mysteriously clocked out by someone else...
Frantz says he's repeatedly requested some kind of paper breakdown of how many hours he's been paid for and how much tax has come off, but they never give it to him, so he's stopped asking.


BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing. It's about income inequality and how people in different economic brackets live.
 
2012-12-06 04:09:16 AM
THAT DOES IT! I'M BOYCOTTING THE LOBSTER/GARDEN.

Just like I've been doing for the last fifteen years of my life without realizing it. (Where are those franchises in San Francisco, anyway? We got Bubba Gump on Pier 39, dunno about any Lobster/Garden outlets)
 
2012-12-06 04:10:58 AM
If you want good seafood from a chain, head to the east coast and try out Legal Sea Foods. It tastes great, comes at a fairly reasonable price (I think), and I'm pretty sure they treat their employees well.
 
2012-12-06 04:14:06 AM

propasaurus: Summoner101: log_jammin: propasaurus: I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they pay some employees, like dishwashers and busboys, with a debit card. So they never see a pay stub with their hours and wages detailed. The company just loads money onto their debit card.

yup


Darden, which owns and operates 1,300 Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze and Smokey Bones Barbeque & Grill restaurants, will give its 140,000 U.S. employees the option of having their pay placed on a PAYCHEK PLUS! payroll card. Instead of a paper check, employees who sign up for the program will receive what looks like an ATM card loaded with their weekly salary. The card may be used at ATMs and retail point-of-sale terminals across America.

I would say only a complete dumbass would agree to that form of payment, but then I realized we're talking about OG/RL employees.

Or a Haitian immigrant:

[Maurose] Frantz washes dishes at the Capital Grille restaurant, a posh steak house near the harbor in Miami's financial district. He nets $200 for a twenty-seven-hour week and receives no food stamps or government assistance of any kind... At the end of the week, Frantz gets an ATM card with his pay already loaded onto it. Sometimes when he clocks out at the end of the night, he says, he finds he's already been mysteriously clocked out by someone else...
Frantz says he's repeatedly requested some kind of paper breakdown of how many hours he's been paid for and how much tax has come off, but they never give it to him, so he's stopped asking.

BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing. It's about income inequality and how people in different economic brackets live.


That seems kind of illegal or at least should be.
 
2012-12-06 04:14:33 AM
Can you blame them? I mean gosh, remember how American business barely survived the 50's-70's because they were foolish enough to treat their employees fairly?


Nah, me neither.
 
2012-12-06 04:19:46 AM

propasaurus: BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing.


I tried, but that shiat was depressing.
 
2012-12-06 04:20:03 AM

Summoner101: [SNIP]
That seems kind of illegal or at least should be.



Hence the lawsuit.
 
2012-12-06 04:21:23 AM

Summoner101: That seems kind of illegal or at least should be.


and what happens when the illegal alien goes to someone about the illegal activities? his ass gets deported and the company keeps doing what it was doing before.
 
2012-12-06 04:25:02 AM
Is it so hard to just pay people who handle your food a living wage?
 
2012-12-06 04:27:17 AM

Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: They should charge for breadsticks. That shiat is like crack.

You're not supposed to smoke them.


YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME
 
2012-12-06 04:36:09 AM
You mean getting on the evening news and announcing you're going to be a dick and treat your workers like dirt because you don't like the President isn't the best way to make people patronize your business?

Color me shocked.
 
2012-12-06 04:37:34 AM

TalenLee: Is it so hard to just pay people who handle your food a living wage?


Hey, the last thing I want is healthy people handling my food!
 
2012-12-06 04:40:42 AM
i just eat Chef Boyardee and play Sinatra albums.

it's like olive garden, but i don't have to wear pants.
 
2012-12-06 04:40:51 AM

Summoner101: propasaurus: Summoner101: log_jammin: propasaurus: I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they pay some employees, like dishwashers and busboys, with a debit card. So they never see a pay stub with their hours and wages detailed. The company just loads money onto their debit card.

yup


Darden, which owns and operates 1,300 Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze and Smokey Bones Barbeque & Grill restaurants, will give its 140,000 U.S. employees the option of having their pay placed on a PAYCHEK PLUS! payroll card. Instead of a paper check, employees who sign up for the program will receive what looks like an ATM card loaded with their weekly salary. The card may be used at ATMs and retail point-of-sale terminals across America.

I would say only a complete dumbass would agree to that form of payment, but then I realized we're talking about OG/RL employees.

Or a Haitian immigrant:

[Maurose] Frantz washes dishes at the Capital Grille restaurant, a posh steak house near the harbor in Miami's financial district. He nets $200 for a twenty-seven-hour week and receives no food stamps or government assistance of any kind... At the end of the week, Frantz gets an ATM card with his pay already loaded onto it. Sometimes when he clocks out at the end of the night, he says, he finds he's already been mysteriously clocked out by someone else...
Frantz says he's repeatedly requested some kind of paper breakdown of how many hours he's been paid for and how much tax has come off, but they never give it to him, so he's stopped asking.

BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing. It's about income inequality and how people in different economic brackets live.

That seems kind of illegal or at least should be.


It is, but I think at least a few places do it. When I worked for a popular donut/coffee chain I remember if anyone got overtime the manager would go into the computer and cut their hours on the basis that if the people above managing the chain found out about the overtime they would fire the employee for getting it, and that they were really doing the employee a favor by cutting their hours retroactively.
 
2012-12-06 04:46:45 AM

propasaurus: Summoner101: [SNIP]
That seems kind of illegal or at least should be.


Hence the lawsuit.


Which will probably ultimately fail.
 
2012-12-06 04:47:17 AM

Gyrfalcon: You mean getting on the evening news and announcing you're going to be a dick and treat your workers like dirt because you don't like the President isn't the best way to make people patronize your business?

Color me shocked.


Oh yeah, totally caught off guard. th
The only question is how deep into the echo-chamber he was and how many yes men agreed to the appearances/annouvements and said nothing, I can see this tool being cheered on by whatever damn pit he occupies on the internet, proposing his employee hour smothering. and being told it's a great idea! That'll show Obama! People will visit to support you!

and no.
 
2012-12-06 04:50:16 AM

log_jammin: propasaurus: BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing.

I tried, but that shiat was depressing.


It is depressing, but it is also fairly eye-opening since you get to look at the mindsets of income levels outside your own. It struck me how used you get to luxuries the richer and richer you get until those luxuries become necessities.
 
2012-12-06 05:06:51 AM
My husband and I went to an Olive Garden located in Madison WI about a year ago. He wanted to go. He said that he had fond memories of Olive Garden (I know). We got there and the service was acceptable. The food was not. I used to like the breadsticks but now it seems like they leave a bad aftertaste so I didn't even like those. My husband agreed that it wasn't the best experience that he has had either. However, I enjoy Red Lobster. I love their mango/strawberry drink that they offer (I don't drink alcohol so it is really just a smoothie). Last time we went to Red Lobster, I ordered shrimp, didn't like it, sent it back and they removed it from the bill and offered me another menu item. I went with the salmon with a blanc sauce and it was delicious.

/will never eat at an Olive Garden restaurant ever again
//not sure about Red Lobster
 
2012-12-06 05:09:56 AM

Summoner101: log_jammin: propasaurus: BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing.

I tried, but that shiat was depressing.

It is depressing, but it is also fairly eye-opening since you get to look at the mindsets of income levels outside your own. It struck me how used you get to luxuries the richer and richer you get until those luxuries become necessities.


That damn hedonic treadmill just keeps getting steeper.
 
2012-12-06 05:22:53 AM

log_jammin: propasaurus: BTW, I linked to page 2 of that article, but it's worth reading the whole thing.

I tried, but that shiat was depressing.


Imagine having the neurotic author reading it to you. It's in Lost At Sea.
 
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