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2012-12-05 08:24:35 PM

SilentStrider: Mentat: We found the WMD's! Woo hoo!

Only nine years too late.


Well, the left made sure to mock anyone who pointed out all the trucks crossing from Iraq into Syria just before the 2003 war. "MORE LIES! HALLIBURTON!"

Um, yeah. That was helpful.
 
2012-12-05 08:24:49 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember when Nancy Pelosi put on a cute headscarf and did freelance diplomacy (in violation of the law, but who cares about that) in Syria while Bush was in office? "The road to peace goes through Damascus," or some such nonsense? Accomplishing exactly nothing?

Good times.

/The little dork eye doctor was always a murderer, geniuses.


Well, thank you for that utterly meaningless bit of historical trivia.
 
2012-12-05 08:24:52 PM

cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us


What in the f*ck does this even mean?
 
2012-12-05 08:24:54 PM
If true, then this is a nightmare - but I want to see a source cited other than "U.S. officials." I can't find any mention of this on the BBC, other British sites, Al Jazeera English, or other Middle Eastern news sites. The only other mention outside of the US media was from the Jerusalem Post. I'd think that if weapons had been loaded then the world media would be all over this.
 
2012-12-05 08:25:08 PM
Chemical weapons don't kill people. People kill people.
 
2012-12-05 08:25:48 PM

GAT_00: Repeating myself since this might go green:

U.S. officials stressed that as of now, the sarin bombs hadn't been loaded onto planes and that Assad hadn't issued a final order to use them. But if he does, one of the officials said, "there's little the outside world can do to stop it."

No Fly Zone


Nope, destroy the aircraft on the ground, NOW!
 
2012-12-05 08:25:50 PM

mr lawson: Mentat: Yes, it is. This has the potential to engulf the entire Middle East including several of our allies who may or may not end up on the same side. This isn't the same situation as Iraq.

Nope...Let's try letting them killing off each other for a while. The whole Middle East seem to want war. Fine. Let'em have it.

NOT OUR PROBLEM


I think we've tried that a few dozen times already. Doesn't seem to help.
 
2012-12-05 08:25:58 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: The military has loaded the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs that could be dropped onto the Syrian people from dozens of fighter-bombers, the officials said.

Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the victim has difficulty breathing and experiences nausea and drooling. As the victim continues to lose control of bodily functions, the victim vomits, defecates and urinates. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the victim becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms.

ya..you guys bring this to the table, and it's all over biatches. You're going to get raped. Don't even think about it.


Not me. I didn't have the fish.
 
2012-12-05 08:26:04 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?


The fact, like Iraq, Syria is NOT OUR PROBLEM.

/oil be damned!
 
2012-12-05 08:26:05 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember when Nancy Pelosi put on a cute headscarf and did freelance diplomacy (in violation of the law, but who cares about that) in Syria while Bush was in office? "The road to peace goes through Damascus," or some such nonsense? Accomplishing exactly nothing?

Good times.

/The little dork eye doctor was always a murderer, geniuses.


Nancy Pelosi is a dousche no matter who's in charge.
 
2012-12-05 08:26:13 PM

cameroncrazy1984: JohnAnnArbor: Nancy Pelosi put on a cute headscarf and did freelance diplomacy (in violation of the law, but who cares about that) in Syria while Bush was in office

No, because that never happened.


ORLY?

/ya rly.
 
2012-12-05 08:26:43 PM
TFA: The nerve agents were locked and loaded inside the bombs. 

OK, I had to look this up. I know what "load" means, but WTF is "lock"??

Apparently the term is made up. Well, it's not a range command and "lock and load" doesn't seem to refer to anything in particular... even loading, apparently.
 
2012-12-05 08:26:51 PM

cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?


Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.
 
2012-12-05 08:27:14 PM
That chinless rentboy really doesn't get it, does he?

Pay attention, Republicans. This is what happens when you are actually allowed to "make your own reality."
 
2012-12-05 08:27:24 PM
 
2012-12-05 08:27:31 PM

Mentat: We found the WMD's! Woo hoo!


wouldn't be surprised if these were Saddam's chemicals they transported over the boarder after the US announced we were moving into Iraq.


They better get a hurry on it... the Mayans' date is approaching fast!

 
2012-12-05 08:27:33 PM
they'll get over it.
 
2012-12-05 08:27:44 PM

Mentat: I think we've tried that a few dozen times already. Doesn't seem to help.


Maybe not, but it doesn't cost us a trillion dollars and thousands of US lives for the same results.
 
2012-12-05 08:27:53 PM
May Allah have mercy on their lime green glowing souls if they do.
 
2012-12-05 08:27:55 PM

Allen. The end.: There's plenty the world could do, it's just the lack of will. What happened when Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds? Not a damn thing...


And WTF happened to the Whey?!
 
2012-12-05 08:28:04 PM
No-fly zone might help, since the rebels don't have planes and there's not a lot of airspace to cover (compared to past zones in Iraq).

The number of Russian SAMs the Syrians have would need to be taken into account.

Hypothetically.
 
2012-12-05 08:28:04 PM
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2012-12-05 08:28:08 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: GAT_00: Repeating myself since this might go green:

U.S. officials stressed that as of now, the sarin bombs hadn't been loaded onto planes and that Assad hadn't issued a final order to use them. But if he does, one of the officials said, "there's little the outside world can do to stop it."

No Fly Zone

Pair that with a visits from Seal Team 6, some Green Berets, and some of fine folks from MI6, and we got ourselves an international ass kicking of a despot.


A "Rock the Casbah," if you will.
 
2012-12-05 08:28:14 PM

cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.


The real question is, can you live with yourself knowing that your country could have done something to stop it and didn't? Will you just shrug off the millions this country's "leader" would kill to remain in power?
 
2012-12-05 08:28:15 PM

cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.


To be fair, he was killing his own people with the WMDs we gave him in the 1980's. So that was more a test to see how well our weapons held up over time.
 
2012-12-05 08:28:20 PM

bulldg4life: I haven't kept up on the outrage, but is the GOP angry that Obama is doing too much or not enough?


Since he hasn't done anything, it's probably "not enough".
 
2012-12-05 08:28:32 PM

mr lawson: Mentat: Yes, it is. This has the potential to engulf the entire Middle East including several of our allies who may or may not end up on the same side. This isn't the same situation as Iraq.

Nope...Let's try letting them killing off each other for a while. The whole Middle East seem to want war. Fine. Let'em have it.

NOT OUR PROBLEM


Just keep that idea firmly in mind when the inevitable pictures of hundreds to thousands of dead women/children in the streets, dead where the stood when the gas hit, start pouring in after he does use them. Screaming not our problem will make it all go away....
 
2012-12-05 08:28:33 PM

mr lawson: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

The fact, like Iraq, Syria is NOT OUR PROBLEM.

/oil be damned!


Yeah, we really shouldn't give a fark about a ruler using chemical warfare against his citizens.
 
2012-12-05 08:28:33 PM
Maybe the Mayans were right.
 
2012-12-05 08:28:50 PM

vartian: cman: So another war in the middle east for us then, right?

You'd rather watch genocide in HD on the nightly news?


BF to GF: "Ugh! Your breath tastes like cigarettes!"
GF: "You'd rather it tasted like pussy?"
BF: "Well, yeah, actually."
 
2012-12-05 08:29:12 PM

mr lawson: Mentat: I think we've tried that a few dozen times already. Doesn't seem to help.

Maybe not, but it doesn't cost us a trillion dollars and thousands of US lives for the same results.


It didn't cost us a trillion dollars or any American lives to deal with Libya.
 
2012-12-05 08:29:44 PM
Where's your Allah now?
 
2012-12-05 08:29:51 PM
Assad has nothing to lose at this point - he's going down and he's taking as many people as he can with him.

We need some ninjas to sneak in and take hims out quickly. We have ninjas, right?

/Or we could try the $25 million bounty again
 
2012-12-05 08:31:06 PM

mr lawson: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

The fact, like Iraq, Syria is NOT OUR PROBLEM.

/oil be damned!


What oil? Syria produces almost as much oil as Central Java and just a little more than Thailand.
 
2012-12-05 08:31:15 PM

JohnAnnArbor: cameroncrazy1984: JohnAnnArbor: Nancy Pelosi put on a cute headscarf and did freelance diplomacy (in violation of the law, but who cares about that) in Syria while Bush was in office

No, because that never happened.

ORLY?

/ya rly.


No, what I mean is it wasn't "in violation of the law"
 
2012-12-05 08:31:21 PM

JohnAnnArbor: The little dork eye doctor was always a murderer, geniuses.


Rand Paul?
 
2012-12-05 08:31:28 PM
I think we'd be able to inhibit the use of chemical weapons but not entirely prevent it, mainly with air power. The good thing to that plan is that we wouldn't have to risk any troops on the ground, as the ground troops might not be properly equipped to handle a sarin chemical weapon. The rate-limiting factor would be the rate at which we'd be able to gather intelligence on the whereabouts of the chemical weapons.
 
2012-12-05 08:31:41 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.

The real question is, can you live with yourself knowing that your country could have done something to stop it and didn't? Will you just shrug off the millions this country's "leader" would kill to remain in power?


Syria is not the United States. Syria is a sovereign nation who is filled with people known as Syrians.

Sure, it would horrify me, but unless Syria commits some sort of military attack upon us, we should not get involved. This is Syria's problem. Syria has to work this out with themselves.
 
2012-12-05 08:31:49 PM
I swear Assad and his family act like this is a farking game. biatch was worrying about getting the newest Harry Potter books, and, I don't know- her favorite jelly or some such mundane shiat.
While hubby was having a busy day at work trying to commit genocide on the people he's supposed to be leading.

They are real people, not numbers, ffs. No re-spawning.
 
2012-12-05 08:31:57 PM
Syria is very close to our NATO bases in Turkey not to forget the carriers in the Med. Unless this a complete fabrication, ala "Saddam has chemical weapons", then Syria dare not use them. The Syrian bombers would likely never make it off the ground given our overwhelming air superiority. If they did get aloft then they'd be toast in the air within minutes.

Likely more hyperbole and posturing. Assad, a very bad man, will fall one way or another.

Russia has a major naval base in Syria and they, as a practical matter, need to have their interests appeased and protected.
 
2012-12-05 08:32:11 PM

bulldg4life: I haven't kept up on the outrage, but is the GOP angry that Obama is doing too much or not enough?


If Libya was any guide, they will be angry that he isn't doing anything until he does something, at which point they will object that he had no right to do so. 

But as someone else pointed out, I want some confirmation from a non-US source (and Israel doesn't count) that this is really happening.
 
2012-12-05 08:32:27 PM

The Muthaship: About to cross the U.S.'s red line. What's one more war....


we are going to be soooo totally mad at them if they do that. We might have to send another strongly worded letter. Maybe even a bad yelp review.
 
2012-12-05 08:32:31 PM

cameroncrazy1984: JohnAnnArbor: Nancy Pelosi put on a cute headscarf and did freelance diplomacy (in violation of the law, but who cares about that) in Syria while Bush was in office

No, because that never happened.


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Link (New Window) 

"We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace," Pelosi told reporters after her talks with Assad.
 
2012-12-05 08:32:47 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.

The real question is, can you live with yourself knowing that your country could have done something to stop it and didn't? Will you just shrug off the millions this country's "leader" would kill to remain in power?


The same damn thing has happened in Africa for a long time. Maybe not with chemical weapons, but genocide nonetheless. Not that I like it, but if we are going in to stop the genocide for moral reasons, there are plenty of areas we need to go to, and should have gone into besides Syria in order for that to work

/uganda, congo, etc aren't just places for fark to make dark jokes about
//fart of darkness
 
2012-12-05 08:33:05 PM
Not our problem
Nuke these pigs.
Wat do?
 
2012-12-05 08:33:08 PM

vegasj: Mentat: We found the WMD's! Woo hoo!

wouldn't be surprised if these were Saddam's chemicals they transported over the boarder after the US announced we were moving into Iraq.


They better get a hurry on it... the Mayans' date is approaching fast!


Oh yeah, you know, Saddam's best friend Syria. Derpityderp
 
2012-12-05 08:33:12 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.

The real question is, can you live with yourself knowing that your country could have done something to stop it and didn't? Will you just shrug off the millions this country's "leader" would kill to remain in power?


People can do it by claiming war in a globalized world is not their problem.
The cleanup is a different matter, but there's years left to spin the fallout from that.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:14 PM

cman: Syria is not the United States. Syria is a sovereign nation who is filled with people known as Syrians.

Sure, it would horrify me, but unless Syria commits some sort of military attack upon us, we should not get involved. This is Syria's problem. Syria has to work this out with themselves


This may shock you, but Syria does not exist in a self-contained little bubble.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:22 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: cman: cameroncrazy1984: cman: Look what happened with Bush and Iraq. Mushroom Cloud Smoking Gun, remember that? This doesnt concern us

Wait, how is this in any way similar to Iraq?

Because, remember, Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was committing genocide against his own people, right? We were played for fools then; lets not get played for fools now.

The real question is, can you live with yourself knowing that your country could have done something to stop it and didn't? Will you just shrug off the millions this country's "leader" would kill to remain in power?


We've seemed to do a pretty good of turning a blind eye to most of Africa, what's one more country that's just going to end up under Sharia Law anyway?
 
2012-12-05 08:33:32 PM

GAT_00: Yeah, we really shouldn't give a fark about a ruler using chemical warfare against his citizens.


You know, if I had the slightest bit of hope that our intervention would create peace over there i would be all in.
All Hope is gone.
They want War (some for the right reasons even)
They don't need nor want us.
Not our problem.
We have our own
 
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