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2012-12-06 07:21:46 PM
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StoPPeRmobile: ZeroCorpse: I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.

Talk about weak minded.

You can enjoy tobacco once in a while without sucking dicks, you know.


That's the problem with a lot of zealotous anti-smokers. They think everyone that smokes does so with all of the bad habits and all of the worst side effects, like some think that all of the people that eat fast food are 450lbs of infectious human waste.

Personally, I notice a bit more open mindedness in people who smoke, eat, and drink to their hearts desire yet maintain some moderation. Philosophers and artists down to that guy who gets along with everyone.

Of the vehement non-smokers, I tend to see a populace of people who make snide remarks and give dirty looks at the people who know how to enjoy life.

Like anything else in life, if you don't want to participate, be it religion or what have you, that's fine by me. As long as you're not being a public nuisance, by smoking where you shouldn't or by being a blunt and bigoted asshole or teaching bunk science to support religion at the cost of the target's ability to think rationally, for a few examples...live and let live I say.

When people go out of their way to be an asshole, like Zero is doing here, it's pretty indicative of some deep seated personal issues, maybe even psychosis. I think Francis needs to lighten up.
2012-12-06 06:38:40 PM
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ZeroCorpse: I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.


Talk about weak minded.

You can enjoy tobacco once in a while without sucking dicks, you know.
2012-12-06 04:43:09 PM
1 votes:
Reasons why I don't smoke (none of them having to do with cancer):

1. The cost is ridiculous. I can buy nice things (like food, education, gadgets, furniture, houses) with the money I save from not having an expensive habit (this goes for drinking, too).

2. I don't want to smell like garbage. And you do, smokers. You smell like garbage. Nobody wants to be close to you except other smokers because you smell awful.

3. I don't want "smoker's lines" around my mouth. You all get them-- Those grooves around your mouth that form from sucking smoke constantly, and it makes you look nasty, old, and ugly.

4. I like having nice skin. I'm 41 years old, and I have the skin of a young 20-something. No wrinkles. No yellowing. No age spots. No dryness. This is because I don't smoke, drink VERY moderately, and I avoid letting the sun bake my flesh. Smokers tend to have faces that look like they're much older than they really are. I like not looking haggard.

5. I prefer not to have a hacking cough. Maybe it's just me, but I find it unattractive when people are horking up a lung.

6. I like breathing without aid. Cancer aside, smoking eventually makes your breathing wheezy, ragged, and ponderous. No thanks.

7. I like having a nice voice. I sing well, and I have a voice that people find appealing. In an effort to avoid sounding scratchy and sore-throated, I think I'll avoid sucking smoke.

8. It looks dumb. When I see someone with a cigarette, the first thing that pops in my head is, "What a stupid asshole." I might learn later that they're an okay kind of person, but the first impression is that they're an idiot who makes poor choices. What's more, it's just plain UGLY. Nobody looks "cool" or "sexy" with a burning stick of chemicals in their hand. Not anymore. That marketing train has sailed.

9. I take enough chemical shiat into my body, I don't need to add to it. I'm already dealing with HFCS in everything, and working like hell to avoid sucralose and several other chemicals that I find unappealing to my sense of safety. I'm not adding the laboratory full of chemicals they dump into cigarettes to that list of food additives I have to put up with because they've become ubiquitous.

10. I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.
2012-12-06 03:53:21 PM
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Great Porn Dragon: StoPPeRmobile: Great Porn Dragon: Warrener: DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.

Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.

And now I'm curious as to how the little things would react if pipe smoking were more common--if they'd start getting into pipe tobacco and integrating that into their nests. (Little brown jobs seem to realise "hey, this stuff that reeks of nicotine kills bugs, wahoo"--smart teeny little dinosaurs, they are. :D)

Then they get cancer. Great idear.

In the case of the birds, it's kind of iffy that they'd get cancer--a lot of how humans get cancer from tobacco products are from smoke inhalation and from placing tobacco on mucous membranes that tend to go cancerous if irritated--it's not just that there are carcinogens but how they're applied, so to speak.

One would think that--if it were possible for Little Brown Jobs (house finches and house sparrows, little brown cosmopolitan birdies) to get cancer from feather or skin contact, there should be a minor epidemic of avian skin cancer in birds that routinely include used cigarette butts in nesting material. (Not only do they concentrate the nasty carcinogenic stuff in cigarette smoke, but they also aren't the best materials to have regular contact with in general.) It's possible we'll see that, or it's possible that feathers might cause a protective effect (much why you don't commonly see skin cancers on fingers of smokers directly attributable to carcinogens in cigarette smoke or tobacco residue--sun exposure, sure, but not so much Smoker's Skin Cancer).

My interest on what would happen if birds were presented of a choice betwee ...


I was, mostly, joking but thanks for your insight.

I always have wondered about the cancer rates for tobacco workers. I've never seen it come up even back in my Cigar Affic days.
2012-12-05 10:36:07 PM
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omeganuepsilon: StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.

Everybody dies. No exceptions.

Smokers, health nuts


So you might as well choose a painful and pointless means, right?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-05 10:08:17 PM
1 votes:
That's pretty clever. House Sparrows came to the New World from Europe, where tobacco is not native. They didn't evolve to use it as a nest lining. House Finches are native, but I don't think their native range overlaps with tobacco's. They are naturally birds of dry areas.
2012-12-05 10:04:22 PM
1 votes:

tolallorti: I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.


This, sort of.

To single out cigarette filters when there are hundreds if not thousands of other types of trash on the street is a bit of prejudice. Same for the people who complain about outdoor smoke itself, anyone who drives a car is a hypocrite, much less anyone who lives in downtown LA or other smoggy type place.

StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.


Everybody dies. No exceptions.

Smokers, health nuts, skinny people, annoying twats, humanitarians and philanthropists.

Everyone.
2012-12-05 10:02:35 PM
1 votes:

Basily Gourt: The little bastids are burning buildings down too. When they grab a still smoldering butt and put it in the nest, POOF! goes the building up in flames.

Conway Chevrolet in Pepperell, MA burned down because of this according to the fire investigators.


Yep. Pairing flame and flying animals can be dangerous.
2012-12-05 09:48:48 PM
1 votes:
I've seen starlings and English sparrows rubbing cigarette butts on themselves on occasion. I'ts hardly a new thing.
2012-12-05 09:18:26 PM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?


From what I see, it's always been OK.

/ Assholes
 
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