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2012-12-05 09:09:56 PM
So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?

/I don't smoke
 
2012-12-05 09:17:12 PM
I've heard of "cowboy killers"

But not "cockroach killers"...


do they come in Menthols??
 
2012-12-05 09:18:26 PM

jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?


From what I see, it's always been OK.

/ Assholes
 
2012-12-05 09:21:06 PM
Next up, Birds with smokers cough, and lung cancer.
 
2012-12-05 09:28:13 PM
Great, now we're all gonna get avian cancer.
 
2012-12-05 09:30:02 PM

jaytkay: jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?

From what I see, it's always been OK.

/ Assholes


I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.

/doesn't smoke in the car.
 
2012-12-05 09:38:57 PM
I save cigarette butts for a poor girl, across town.
 
2012-12-05 09:48:48 PM
I've seen starlings and English sparrows rubbing cigarette butts on themselves on occasion. I'ts hardly a new thing.
 
2012-12-05 09:51:05 PM
The little bastids are burning buildings down too. When they grab a still smoldering butt and put it in the nest, POOF! goes the building up in flames.

Conway Chevrolet in Pepperell, MA burned down because of this according to the fire investigators.
 
2012-12-05 09:51:07 PM

"The Mexican QB Swallow, in an effort to keep away the dangerous Patriots from New England, looks for a butt to line his nest with."


static4.businessinsider.com

 
2012-12-05 09:51:28 PM
For years I've heard stories about a chick in the Whitehouse that snatched some cigars and stuck them in her love nest, but THIS, this is also pretty cool.
 
2012-12-05 09:53:23 PM
WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.
 
2012-12-05 10:00:54 PM

skinink: "The Mexican QB Swallow, in an effort to keep away the dangerous Patriots from New England, looks for a butt to line his nest with."
[static4.businessinsider.com image 620x465]


O K A Y.

That was random....
 
2012-12-05 10:02:35 PM

Basily Gourt: The little bastids are burning buildings down too. When they grab a still smoldering butt and put it in the nest, POOF! goes the building up in flames.

Conway Chevrolet in Pepperell, MA burned down because of this according to the fire investigators.


Yep. Pairing flame and flying animals can be dangerous.
 
2012-12-05 10:04:22 PM

tolallorti: I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.


This, sort of.

To single out cigarette filters when there are hundreds if not thousands of other types of trash on the street is a bit of prejudice. Same for the people who complain about outdoor smoke itself, anyone who drives a car is a hypocrite, much less anyone who lives in downtown LA or other smoggy type place.

StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.


Everybody dies. No exceptions.

Smokers, health nuts, skinny people, annoying twats, humanitarians and philanthropists.

Everyone.
 
2012-12-05 10:06:05 PM

jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?

/I don't smoke


Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-05 10:08:17 PM
That's pretty clever. House Sparrows came to the New World from Europe, where tobacco is not native. They didn't evolve to use it as a nest lining. House Finches are native, but I don't think their native range overlaps with tobacco's. They are naturally birds of dry areas.
 
2012-12-05 10:36:07 PM

omeganuepsilon: StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.

Everybody dies. No exceptions.

Smokers, health nuts


So you might as well choose a painful and pointless means, right?
 
2012-12-05 10:41:22 PM

DrunkenBob: You know, if you actually loved the birds.


I prefer larger birds...ones that lay eggs with a circumference a smidge smaller than my girth.
 
2012-12-05 10:44:19 PM
omeganuepsilon:

tolallorti: I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.

This, sort of.

To single out cigarette filters when there are hundreds if not thousands of other types of trash on the street is a bit of prejudice. Same for the people who complain about outdoor smoke itself, anyone who drives a car is a hypocrite, much less anyone who lives in downtown LA or other smoggy type place.


Cigarette butts tick me off more for the "why the hell are you throwing it on the road" aspect more than anything. I once went to lunch with a co-worker and he threw a butt out my car window while we were in the parking lot. I told him he was walking home if he didn't pick it up. This was while we were sitting in an early '70's car (back when engineers still smoked) with 7 ashtrays that I had just cleaned out over the weekend, and he just had to pitch a damned butt out the window.

Plastic bags though... Going to Asia taught me to hate those. Even in the most desperately poor places, there isn't much of a garbage problem... There's always feral dogs, pigs, cows, catfish whatever to eat anything organic, and "ragpicker" is still a job description there, so anything of use inorganic gets used as well.

But then there's the ubiquitous "black plastic grocery bags."

They form dunes where it's dry, and reefs where it's wet. They don't decay, they're not useful even to ragpickers and feral pigs, and they just pile up clogging streams and rivers. I don't know what Chinese or Indian factory is pumping them out, but I'd like to give their CEO a noogie.
 
2012-12-06 01:07:51 AM

jaytkay: So you might as well choose a painful and pointless means, right?


Everything under the sun, and even the sun can give you cancer. There aren't many ways to die that are not painful aside from the possibility of overdose on really good drugs or simply being old enough to just suddenly pass while sleeping because of entropy causing your system to just break(that's a sign of a life not lived well enough, imo). Burning, downing, infection, getting hit by a bus, etc. They're all pretty painful.

Pointless? Death has meaning if it's not "from cigarettes"?
I'd like to see you clarify that.

If you enjoy it, go for it. What's pointless is living a life without doing what you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it, whatever, I'm not telling people to smoke as you almost seem to want to imply.
 
2012-12-06 01:36:17 AM

jaylectricity: DrunkenBob: You know, if you actually loved the birds.

I prefer larger birds...ones that lay eggs with a circumference a smidge smaller than my girth.


I'm too tired to tell if you are saying your penis is only slightly thicker than a woman's ova, you fark literal birds, or you have actually measured yourself against at least one chicken's egg.
 
2012-12-06 01:39:41 AM
Not all that surprising. Hedgehogs are known to munch on cigs and then lick themselves, spreading the anti-parasitic effect all over their body.

Link
 
2012-12-06 01:47:30 AM

jaytkay: omeganuepsilon: StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.

Everybody dies. No exceptions.

Smokers, health nuts

So you might as well choose a painful and pointless means, right?


I know, right? I'd hate to die like George Burns, at the age of 100 after having suffered a head injury slipping in the shower. If only he'd avoided smoking!
 
2012-12-06 02:21:56 AM

Basily Gourt: The little bastids are burning buildings down too. When they grab a still smoldering butt and put it in the nest, POOF! goes the building up in flames.

Conway Chevrolet in Pepperell, MA burned down because of this according to the fire investigators.


Perhaps people who smoke could maybe, possibly try to watch where they're casually tossing something that's on goddamn fire.
 
2012-12-06 03:25:56 AM

StoPPeRmobile: WHAT!

SMOKING KILLS! NO EXCEPTIONS.

END OF STORY.


Not actually a true statement. My grandfather quit during the 1960s and still died of lung cancer. My grandmother kept smoking and was killed in an auto accident.
 
Xai
2012-12-06 06:10:48 AM

tolallorti: jaytkay: jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?

From what I see, it's always been OK.

/ Assholes

I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.

/doesn't smoke in the car.


because more trash makes the place cleaner
 
2012-12-06 07:36:29 AM

Xai: tolallorti: jaytkay: jaylectricity: So it's OK to throw cigarette butts out the car window again?

From what I see, it's always been OK.

/ Assholes

I'm only okay with it in the city. It's already shiatty with plastic bags blowing like tumbleweeds so a cigarette but thrown here and there isn't that big of a deal.

/doesn't smoke in the car.

because more trash makes the place cleaner


Didn't you read TFA?

Birds use the butts so there is no problem. Duh.
 
2012-12-06 09:46:37 AM

DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.


Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.
 
2012-12-06 10:08:02 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Not all that surprising. Hedgehogs are known to munch on cigs and then lick themselves, spreading the anti-parasitic effect all over their body.

Link


Well that might explain some behavior I have witnessed. My hedgehog Milton would sit like a dog and get his nose as high in the air as he could if he smelled cigarette smoke. I always assumed it was some sort of find out where the fire is and head in the other direction type of response to avoid brush fires.
 
2012-12-06 01:10:52 PM

Egoy3k: ArcadianRefugee: Not all that surprising. Hedgehogs are known to munch on cigs and then lick themselves, spreading the anti-parasitic effect all over their body.

Link

Well that might explain some behavior I have witnessed. My hedgehog Milton would sit like a dog and get his nose as high in the air as he could if he smelled cigarette smoke. I always assumed it was some sort of find out where the fire is and head in the other direction type of response to avoid brush fires.


I's take up smoking if I cared for the small creatures.
 
2012-12-06 01:22:43 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Egoy3k: ArcadianRefugee: Not all that surprising. Hedgehogs are known to munch on cigs and then lick themselves, spreading the anti-parasitic effect all over their body.

Link

Well that might explain some behavior I have witnessed. My hedgehog Milton would sit like a dog and get his nose as high in the air as he could if he smelled cigarette smoke. I always assumed it was some sort of find out where the fire is and head in the other direction type of response to avoid brush fires.

I's take up smoking if I cared for the small creatures.


Hedgehogs are pretty easy to take care of. Basically all you need to do is keep them warm (very important) and dry, socialize with them once a day, clean their cage once a week, bath them about once a month and cut their toenails after every bath. They don't eat much and they are loveable little creatures. The only real issues are that they have a similar lifespan to other small creatures (5-8 years) but they are expensive, and it's hard to find a vet who can treat them if they do get sick or hurt.
 
2012-12-06 02:25:39 PM

Egoy3k: StoPPeRmobile: Egoy3k: ArcadianRefugee: Not all that surprising. Hedgehogs are known to munch on cigs and then lick themselves, spreading the anti-parasitic effect all over their body.

Link

Well that might explain some behavior I have witnessed. My hedgehog Milton would sit like a dog and get his nose as high in the air as he could if he smelled cigarette smoke. I always assumed it was some sort of find out where the fire is and head in the other direction type of response to avoid brush fires.

I's take up smoking if I cared for the small creatures.

Hedgehogs are pretty easy to take care of. Basically all you need to do is keep them warm (very important) and dry, socialize with them once a day, clean their cage once a week, bath them about once a month and cut their toenails after every bath. They don't eat much and they are loveable little creatures. The only real issues are that they have a similar lifespan to other small creatures (5-8 years) but they are expensive, and it's hard to find a vet who can treat them if they do get sick or hurt.


I have a very old cat. She does her business outside like a dog. A little food and water plus a pet or two occasionally. Oh, she doesn't fight the other neighbors cats much anymore but she will swipe at any dog in the house leaving a bloody nose. Every damn time. It's funny since I warn the owners.

Fur children, hah.
 
2012-12-06 03:28:12 PM

Warrener: DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.

Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.


And now I'm curious as to how the little things would react if pipe smoking were more common--if they'd start getting into pipe tobacco and integrating that into their nests. (Little brown jobs seem to realise "hey, this stuff that reeks of nicotine kills bugs, wahoo"--smart teeny little dinosaurs, they are. :D)
 
2012-12-06 03:35:14 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Warrener: DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.

Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.

And now I'm curious as to how the little things would react if pipe smoking were more common--if they'd start getting into pipe tobacco and integrating that into their nests. (Little brown jobs seem to realise "hey, this stuff that reeks of nicotine kills bugs, wahoo"--smart teeny little dinosaurs, they are. :D)


Then they get cancer. Great idear.
 
2012-12-06 03:46:02 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Great Porn Dragon: Warrener: DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.

Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.

And now I'm curious as to how the little things would react if pipe smoking were more common--if they'd start getting into pipe tobacco and integrating that into their nests. (Little brown jobs seem to realise "hey, this stuff that reeks of nicotine kills bugs, wahoo"--smart teeny little dinosaurs, they are. :D)

Then they get cancer. Great idear.


In the case of the birds, it's kind of iffy that they'd get cancer--a lot of how humans get cancer from tobacco products are from smoke inhalation and from placing tobacco on mucous membranes that tend to go cancerous if irritated--it's not just that there are carcinogens but how they're applied, so to speak.

One would think that--if it were possible for Little Brown Jobs (house finches and house sparrows, little brown cosmopolitan birdies) to get cancer from feather or skin contact, there should be a minor epidemic of avian skin cancer in birds that routinely include used cigarette butts in nesting material. (Not only do they concentrate the nasty carcinogenic stuff in cigarette smoke, but they also aren't the best materials to have regular contact with in general.) It's possible we'll see that, or it's possible that feathers might cause a protective effect (much why you don't commonly see skin cancers on fingers of smokers directly attributable to carcinogens in cigarette smoke or tobacco residue--sun exposure, sure, but not so much Smoker's Skin Cancer).

My interest on what would happen if birds were presented of a choice between pipe tobacco (which their ancestors might have become accustomed to) and used cigarette butts--do they pick the butts because the fluff inside is comfy AND tick-repellant, or are they going for the pure tick repellant factor? Would make for an IgNobel Prize-worthy study, at any rate :D
 
2012-12-06 03:53:21 PM

Great Porn Dragon: StoPPeRmobile: Great Porn Dragon: Warrener: DrunkenBob: Got to keep the birds supplied. If need be, buy cartons of cigarettes and break off the filters so you can keep the birds flush in parasitic fumigation. You know, if you actually loved the birds.

Dude, RTFA. Experiments done with unsmoked and smoked filters showed only a significant benefit to the smoked filters.

You'll have to recruit people to smoke the cigarettes before detaching the anti-parasitic module for use in avian homes.

And now I'm curious as to how the little things would react if pipe smoking were more common--if they'd start getting into pipe tobacco and integrating that into their nests. (Little brown jobs seem to realise "hey, this stuff that reeks of nicotine kills bugs, wahoo"--smart teeny little dinosaurs, they are. :D)

Then they get cancer. Great idear.

In the case of the birds, it's kind of iffy that they'd get cancer--a lot of how humans get cancer from tobacco products are from smoke inhalation and from placing tobacco on mucous membranes that tend to go cancerous if irritated--it's not just that there are carcinogens but how they're applied, so to speak.

One would think that--if it were possible for Little Brown Jobs (house finches and house sparrows, little brown cosmopolitan birdies) to get cancer from feather or skin contact, there should be a minor epidemic of avian skin cancer in birds that routinely include used cigarette butts in nesting material. (Not only do they concentrate the nasty carcinogenic stuff in cigarette smoke, but they also aren't the best materials to have regular contact with in general.) It's possible we'll see that, or it's possible that feathers might cause a protective effect (much why you don't commonly see skin cancers on fingers of smokers directly attributable to carcinogens in cigarette smoke or tobacco residue--sun exposure, sure, but not so much Smoker's Skin Cancer).

My interest on what would happen if birds were presented of a choice betwee ...


I was, mostly, joking but thanks for your insight.

I always have wondered about the cancer rates for tobacco workers. I've never seen it come up even back in my Cigar Affic days.
 
2012-12-06 04:43:09 PM
Reasons why I don't smoke (none of them having to do with cancer):

1. The cost is ridiculous. I can buy nice things (like food, education, gadgets, furniture, houses) with the money I save from not having an expensive habit (this goes for drinking, too).

2. I don't want to smell like garbage. And you do, smokers. You smell like garbage. Nobody wants to be close to you except other smokers because you smell awful.

3. I don't want "smoker's lines" around my mouth. You all get them-- Those grooves around your mouth that form from sucking smoke constantly, and it makes you look nasty, old, and ugly.

4. I like having nice skin. I'm 41 years old, and I have the skin of a young 20-something. No wrinkles. No yellowing. No age spots. No dryness. This is because I don't smoke, drink VERY moderately, and I avoid letting the sun bake my flesh. Smokers tend to have faces that look like they're much older than they really are. I like not looking haggard.

5. I prefer not to have a hacking cough. Maybe it's just me, but I find it unattractive when people are horking up a lung.

6. I like breathing without aid. Cancer aside, smoking eventually makes your breathing wheezy, ragged, and ponderous. No thanks.

7. I like having a nice voice. I sing well, and I have a voice that people find appealing. In an effort to avoid sounding scratchy and sore-throated, I think I'll avoid sucking smoke.

8. It looks dumb. When I see someone with a cigarette, the first thing that pops in my head is, "What a stupid asshole." I might learn later that they're an okay kind of person, but the first impression is that they're an idiot who makes poor choices. What's more, it's just plain UGLY. Nobody looks "cool" or "sexy" with a burning stick of chemicals in their hand. Not anymore. That marketing train has sailed.

9. I take enough chemical shiat into my body, I don't need to add to it. I'm already dealing with HFCS in everything, and working like hell to avoid sucralose and several other chemicals that I find unappealing to my sense of safety. I'm not adding the laboratory full of chemicals they dump into cigarettes to that list of food additives I have to put up with because they've become ubiquitous.

10. I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.
 
2012-12-06 05:34:32 PM

ZeroCorpse: Reasons why I don't smoke (none of them having to do with cancer):


Reasons why you're relevant and we want to year your personal motives:

*crickets*
 
2012-12-06 06:38:40 PM

ZeroCorpse: I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.


Talk about weak minded.

You can enjoy tobacco once in a while without sucking dicks, you know.
 
2012-12-06 07:21:46 PM

StoPPeRmobile: ZeroCorpse: I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.

Talk about weak minded.

You can enjoy tobacco once in a while without sucking dicks, you know.


That's the problem with a lot of zealotous anti-smokers. They think everyone that smokes does so with all of the bad habits and all of the worst side effects, like some think that all of the people that eat fast food are 450lbs of infectious human waste.

Personally, I notice a bit more open mindedness in people who smoke, eat, and drink to their hearts desire yet maintain some moderation. Philosophers and artists down to that guy who gets along with everyone.

Of the vehement non-smokers, I tend to see a populace of people who make snide remarks and give dirty looks at the people who know how to enjoy life.

Like anything else in life, if you don't want to participate, be it religion or what have you, that's fine by me. As long as you're not being a public nuisance, by smoking where you shouldn't or by being a blunt and bigoted asshole or teaching bunk science to support religion at the cost of the target's ability to think rationally, for a few examples...live and let live I say.

When people go out of their way to be an asshole, like Zero is doing here, it's pretty indicative of some deep seated personal issues, maybe even psychosis. I think Francis needs to lighten up.
 
2012-12-06 07:31:59 PM

omeganuepsilon: StoPPeRmobile: ZeroCorpse: I like not being addicted to things. I don't need to take a break every hour to get a hit. I don't get jittery, or get irritable because of a lack of my addiction. Smoking is slavery, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to be dependent on an unnecessary chemical sludge. If I'm going to do that, I'd go for pills-- At least they won't make me look awful.

Talk about weak minded.

You can enjoy tobacco once in a while without sucking dicks, you know.

That's the problem with a lot of zealotous anti-smokers. They think everyone that smokes does so with all of the bad habits and all of the worst side effects, like some think that all of the people that eat fast food are 450lbs of infectious human waste.

Personally, I notice a bit more open mindedness in people who smoke, eat, and drink to their hearts desire yet maintain some moderation. Philosophers and artists down to that guy who gets along with everyone.

Of the vehement non-smokers, I tend to see a populace of people who make snide remarks and give dirty looks at the people who know how to enjoy life.

Like anything else in life, if you don't want to participate, be it religion or what have you, that's fine by me. As long as you're not being a public nuisance, by smoking where you shouldn't or by being a blunt and bigoted asshole or teaching bunk science to support religion at the cost of the target's ability to think rationally, for a few examples...live and let live I say.

When people go out of their way to be an asshole, like Zero is doing here, it's pretty indicative of some deep seated personal issues, maybe even psychosis. I think Francis needs to lighten up.


I tend not to hold anything said on Fark against anyone. It's not real life. Arguments can be voiced, praised or shredded. It's easy to see who has done their homework, though.

Love a good argument.

Or troll.

Too many have there panties in a bunch IRL.

/our time is short
//Anon not for long
///haz a sad
 
2012-12-06 09:03:16 PM

StoPPeRmobile: I tend not to hold anything said on Fark against anyone.


I do on a per-thread / topic basis. Someone acts like an ass in a smoking thread, I'll keep it there. Gets to evolution or showbiz or whatever, that's a fresh topic.

There is the special troll though, those professional trolls who are contrarian wherever they may post. Yeah, we're all different, but those people who always manage to be offensive to as many people as possible, it's almost a statistical impossibility for them to be genuine. Those people I will hold up to a light every time.
 
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