Staggering. Fark cancer, let's get soem research started to find a cure for death.

In other news, the sky remains blue, grass is sometimes green, your mom's a whore, and Bush isn't getting re-elected in '04.

/Film at 11

You don't need a fancy study to figure that out. Just go to any high school gym class.

Can't those smokers just shoot up tar heroin? That'll save your lungs!

My lungs aren't impaired. They just aren't that motivated right now.

easy solution: cookies.

Breathing in smoke harms your lungs? Hmph, I never would've guessed.

Uhm. Wow. A sample of 20 people. That's certainly definitive.

/sarcasm detector exploding...

still no explaination as to why there have been exactly zero deaths attributed directly to marijuana.

/knee jerk, didn't RTFA

So this study looked at non-smokers, and those who smoked tobacco and cannabis? Is it just me, or is that a serious methodological flaw?

In a small study involving 20 people aged 19 to 30, including non-smokers and those who smoked tobacco and cannabis

Maybe one day they'll do a real study and use people who only smoke pot.

nonexistent - so you say that breathing in smoke isn't unhealthy?

Smoke one of these instead...

I think we need to ban anything that produces any kind of smoke... we'll just start with oil refineries.

Isn't this going to PREVENT LUNG CANCER? Prevention is just as good as a cure.

I'm sure smoking anything will do damage to your lungs - it's not like it's water vapour or something harmless after all.

That being said, I highly doubt that smoking only pot is anywhere near as bad for you as smoking cigarettes (or smoking both).

And then of course, there are vaporizers for pot which would make it a hell of a lot safer to breathe in THC as a vapour rather than smoke it straight.

If the government really cared about our health, they'd quickly develop a cheap, effective alternative for THC or nicotine intake that doesn't involve smoking it, instead of continuing to commit valuable tax dollars to what amounts to boondoggle research projects which do little to nothing for anyone except divert badly needed funds for medical research into stupid pork barrel projects and 'studies'. :P

Don't smoke pot, eat it.

I don't doubt that inhaling smoke is unhealthy. The question is precisely how unhealthy a given inhalant is.

Is marijuana primarily an irritant that causes short-term, recoverable damage, or is it a carcinogen that can lead to lung cancer, or does it fall somewhere inbetween?

Unfortunately, studies with poor methodology do little to answer the question.

*koff*koff*koff*

huh??? whuzzat?

"Get some sour cream and onion chips with some dip, man, some beef jerky, some peanut butter. Get some Haagen-Das ice cream bars, a whole lot, make sure chocolate, gotta have chocolate, man. Some popcorn, red popcorn, graham crackers, graham crackers with marshmallows, the little marshmallows and little chocolate bars and we can make smores, man. Also, celery, grape jelly, Captain Crunch with the little Crunch berries, pizzas. We need two big pizzas, man, everything on 'em, with water, whole lotta water, and Funyons."

Flawed study, but the conclusion is right. Smoke anything daily and your lung function will be impaired. Cigarette smokers just smoke more on average.

Thats why i only smoke one of them.

People still smoke these days because:
1) it gets rid of an erection
2) it relieves stress
3) they still believe in that old BS that smoking makes you cool
4) it makes your miserable life shorter
5) not being able to breathe is pretty farking cool

I don't recall saying anything about the actual subject of this study.

20 people is a rather insignificant number for any study. The potential for statistical error is extremely high.

You take a hit, hold it in for as long as you can, then (esp with a bong/gravity bong) cough your ass off -- Naah, no bad affects on your lungs ---

Speaking of bong's I think I shall have myself one now.

Stop making me pay for these and GIVE ME SOME FARKING FLYING CARS AND DOMED CITIES!

New study: Water found to be wet

I quit smoking cigarettes, so instead to look 'cool' I bought these joke smokes in Japan that look just like a real lit cigarette (it even has these red shiny things stuck on the 'lit' end which when in the light, glistens like a real lit cherry does, and it also came with a vial of baby powder which you fill the 'cigarette' with, and when you blow out - not suck - the baby powder shoots out of holes in the 'lit' end, appearing like a puff of smoke) - it looks remarkably convincing, and satisfies my oral fix and need for something to have in my hand while I'm downing Guinness. ;)

Now I'm off to try and invent/patent the same joke smoke, but one where I can suck in like a real smoke and an embedded LED lights up and blows fake smoke out the other end in an even more realistic sim cig. ;)

Maybe even with a liquid nicotine delivery system. ;)

Carbon Monoxide is unhealthy? Where in the fark have I been, why am I always left out in the dark?

He meant it leads to impotience. Thanks for playing guys.

20 people in their sample group? Was this study conducted by potheads?

micah476 : They weren't high when they conducted the study, they were burning out.

As if we needed more evidence that governments will give funding to any study, regardless of whether or not it even abides by the most basic tenants of scientific enquiry, as long as it finds some harm in smoking cannabis. I honestly fail to see how a study like this could be funded to begin with unless it was intended to find harm in the first place. The researchers failed to isolate the variable they sought to study in a manner so egregious that its oversight can only be seen as either complete incompetence, or an intentional effort to skew the results of the study.

The fact that this garbage study was even reported in the news suggests that either Reuters and MSNBC have science journalists and editors with little to no understanding of how actual scientific studies are conducted, or that they want their slice of the ONDCP's "sacks of money for anti-drug news" pie.

People have been sucking in smoke from burning plants since the invention of fire.

It's all the chemicals they put in cigs that cause the cancer.

Well, d00fy, what he said and what he meant are two different things, aren't they?

Lung Cancer?? I always considered heart disease to be as big an issue. Cigs and pot contain carbon monoxide which inhibits the blood from carrying oxygen to cells as well, so the body produces more red blood cells, which thickens the blood, which helps clog arteries. I think pot also has a lot more CO than cigs, but I could be wrong, prolly depends on a number of factors, but they all have it(CO).

Hmm gets rid of erections eh??? No problem here, smoking cigs or marijuana doesn't make me bonerless, infact smoking marijuana makes me horny as fark a lot of times.

Ya the study is farked up, you gotta do non-smokers what so ever compared to just pot smokers.

lovehate

So if pot thickens the blood, and alcohol thins it, I guess I'm in the clear, right? Right?

Testing monkeys in the lab we administered hash-oil intravenously while saturating the environment with a 20%/80% THC condensed fog / oxygen ratio. Then we held the monkeys underwater for several minutes.

Those monkeys that survived seemed to have severe impairment which remained permanent even beyond the intoxication window.

Conclusion: marijuana is deadly and can cause brain damage

Sparkle:
I think the alcohol helps thin a kind of cholesterol, and I believe it has to be a red wine, not beer, not that you said beer. I don't see how wine would help blood carry O2 more efficiently.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I ask you, is marijuana truly harmless considering the study you've shared with us? I think not!

Oh yeah....one of the monkeys bit me and, to get him off my arm, I slammed him into the cabinet where we store the monkey food.

I'm blaming his head injury on the marijuana. It's all outlined in the study.

(and the govt. grant money keeps rollin' rollin' rollin' in! Yeeeeeee-hawww!)

HAHA, you just can't go wrong with a monkey joke! Where's that bomb monkey?

I know this big fat Italian guy who says he drank no less than a pint of gin every day of his life for about 20 years, and that was on top of the normal drinking that most people do. He also would cheat on his wife constantly and even bring his gomars home and wake his wife up so she could cook for them.

Yet he's on this high horse because he's never ever touched caffiene, tobacco, or pot. He says that like he's some kind of ultra boy scout.

Damn government and scientists. Just let me live by my own morals, drawing on my own conclusions.

He's also about 200 lbs overweight. Apparently pot and tobacco are evil, but being a fat drunk who treats his wife worse than his dog is OK.