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2012-12-05 04:17:59 PM
3 votes:
The 21st Amendment is a powerful reminder that the Constitution should only be amended to define rights, not take away rights.
2012-12-05 02:55:23 PM
3 votes:
2012-12-05 06:23:53 PM
2 votes:
Interestingly enough, no data suggests there was a surge in alcoholism following the repeal. Since this is one of the key arguments made by people still in favor of the drug war, I thought I'd point that out. All it the Amendment did was curb violence, produce revenue, and lighten the load on law enforcement/courts. Unthinkable!

Alcohol is available in every corner store (or specialty shop, depending on where you live). It doesn't mean you have to go there and get loaded. The majority of people treat it as an indulgence. I think you'll find this is how responsible adults new to the smoking world will treat legal marijuana. Those who already smoke regularly were going to keep smoking, anyway. A nationwide repeal would mean it's just a matter of sauntering down to the store instead of waiting for your guy who never shows up when he says he will.

I hate that guy.
2012-12-05 04:11:26 PM
2 votes:

jigger: xanadian: HOORAY WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!

Wasn't it the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition?


U MADD?
2012-12-05 10:03:52 PM
1 votes:
When asked what he would do when Prohibition was repealed, FDR replied "Have a martini!".
2012-12-05 08:11:36 PM
1 votes:

D_Evans45: wildcardjack: I've been told that the average illegal drug dealer couldn't run a dry cleaner shop, so you might actually destroy tens of thousands of small businesses by making it possible for proper business people to operate against them.


The average drug dealer might make minimum wage, and the risk factor can be huge for just those wages.

We've been led to believe that most drug dealers are thuggish villains who lay around doing nothing while piles of cash accumulate around them. These types must make up less than a single percent of all drug dealers. I bought thousands and thousands of dollars worth of drugs from about ~200-~2010, pot meth coke shrooms acid ecstasy and even heroin once, you name it, Ive probably done it at least once. In that process I met countless dealers.

If your dealer doesn't hold a "legit" job, your dealer probably doesnt even own his own house. Either his roomies paid for it, he inherited it, the drug fairy apparated it, etc. But most drug dealers simply do not have the resources to get by in this world nowadays, from just drug revenue. And its not hard to see why. Getting by is hard as fuhk if you don't have an excellent job.

If I were to see a drug dealer on TV, he would be sitting at a desk covered with nice things, flanked by thugs, in the company of beautiful women. This is NOT how it happens, EVER. If you gave me $100 right now and told me to buy you drug X, Id be headed to the low income housing areas to meet shady little Paco Drugdealer in the alley. Even if I were to drive into the ritzier areas, Id be buying pills from people still living with their parents, or rooming with other peers. While there ARE some people who get by growing house fulls of pot plants, or moving kilos of coke, or boats of pills, etc, they are the exceedingly small majority.

You cant just assume just any dealer would be able to run a business, of any kind. Most of the drug dealers I knew in my lifetime would fail with the pressures of even a small b ...


Which Steve are you, Dubner or Levitt?

http://www.freakonomics.com/books/freakonomics/chapter-excerpts/chapt e r-3/
2012-12-05 07:46:33 PM
1 votes:
I'd rather see the reinstatement of the fourth, subby. :(
2012-12-05 06:56:34 PM
1 votes:
It should also be mentioned that there are people trying to turn this into a commonly recognized holiday. This should be heartily supported and encouraged by every farker. Repeal Day.
2012-12-05 06:32:36 PM
1 votes:

slackwater: You really think we can afford to be using our resources for beer, pot or filling swimming pools?


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40% of the US corn crop goes into gas tanks.
2012-12-05 05:43:55 PM
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: bmr68: I have pictures somewhere of my grand parents and great-uncle (in his police uniform) holding up glasses toasting that moment. They were drinking at a speak easy one minute and a respectable bar the next

Does that mean pot dealers will be reputable businessmen (and women) the moment full decriminalization passes? After all they would be the coveted small-business owners the Republican party caters to, right?


If it was a legal business then I could see that happening. FYI: Marijuana was criminalized by the FDR administration in 1937
2012-12-05 05:32:10 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: jigger: xanadian: HOORAY WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!

Wasn't it the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition?

Nope, that was the Temperance movement, led primarily by southern baptist ministers like Rev. Howard Hyde Russell of the Anti-Saloon League.
it was the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition's repeal, due to the increase in crime, including the Women's Moderation Union, the Women's Organization for National Prohibition Reform, the Women's Committee for Repeal, the Molly Pitcher Club, etc.


Women were supportive of prohibition because alcoholic men were seen as the cause of ruined families.

NYT's summary of Okrent:

Believing that women were more likely than men to support restrictions on alcohol, these leaders strongly supported women's suffrage. And when America entered World War I in 1917, they helped fan the flames of anti-German hysteria by accusing the Busch family and other brewers of harboring sympathies for the kaiser (a charge, not entirely untrue, that turned beer drinking into a disloyal act).
2012-12-05 05:28:15 PM
1 votes:

jigger: xanadian: HOORAY WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!

Wasn't it the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition?


Surprising number of "bedfellows" on Prohibition: Temperence leagues, racists, moralists of all stripes. Read the excellent book Last Call by Daniel Okrent for insight on the many attempts at prohibition, it's impact on the Amercian landscape, how it touched everything from the federal income tax to the creation of jazz.
2012-12-05 04:37:04 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: jigger: xanadian: HOORAY WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!

Wasn't it the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition?

Nope, that was the Temperance movement, led primarily by southern baptist ministers like Rev. Howard Hyde Russell of the Anti-Saloon League.
it was the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition's repeal, due to the increase in crime, including the Women's Moderation Union, the Women's Organization for National Prohibition Reform, the Women's Committee for Repeal, the Molly Pitcher Club, etc.


Don't you think you're being a bit dismissive of the likes of the National Woman's Christian Temperance Union, Carrie Nation, Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton?
2012-12-05 04:29:55 PM
1 votes:

NobleHam: D_Evans45: So when are we gonna do the same with pot? We're all fine with people going to bars where half the people will drive home drunk, but god forbid you smoke a joint and relax tonight.

/Doesnt smoke

We already did in Washington. Starting tomorrow it'll be legal to possess up to an ounce.


I don't smoke, but I'm please that we're one of the few states that have our act together on this. No reason it should be prohibited. It's going to be interesting to see how the federal government handles it.
2012-12-05 04:28:00 PM
1 votes:
Worst amendments to the Constitution ever
1. 16th
2. 19th
3. 21st
4. 13th
5. 15th
2012-12-05 04:26:54 PM
1 votes:

slackwater: By all means celebrate the use of crop land, water and other limited earth resources that could be used to feed the hungry being used to create recreational adult beverages.

Enjoy your booze after all it is just starving "brown people"

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Unfiltered beer made from barley actually has a lot of nutrients.
2012-12-05 04:26:54 PM
1 votes:

NobleHam: D_Evans45: So when are we gonna do the same with pot?

We already did in Washington. Starting tomorrow it'll be legal to possess up to an ounce.



2 states aint much. When is the other 96% of the country pulling their heads out of their asses?
2012-12-05 04:11:07 PM
1 votes:
Those were the days, when congress paid some respect to the Constitution. Second Prohibition didn't need no steenkin amendment.
2012-12-05 04:10:44 PM
1 votes:

xanadian: HOORAY WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!


Wasn't it the wimmins that pushed the hardest for Prohibition?
2012-12-05 04:09:50 PM
1 votes:
So when are we gonna do the same with pot? We're all fine with people going to bars where half the people will drive home drunk, but god forbid you smoke a joint and relax tonight.

/Doesnt smoke
2012-12-05 04:08:34 PM
1 votes:
I will smoke a bowl in honor of the repeal of prohibition!
 
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