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(Yahoo)   Iran says it has extracted every last bit of data from non-existent U.S. intelligence drone that was not captured   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 25
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2012-12-05 01:56:17 PM
3 votes:
Okay, which one of you jokers installed Stuxnet 2.0 on the intelligence drone?
2012-12-05 04:40:19 PM
2 votes:
Sunday: Susan Rice appears on news shows to reaffirm that this was NOT our drone.
Monday: FOX news exclusive that this was an American designed drone, but possibly used by another country.
Tuesday: FOX news reveals that Susan Rice has not had the basic training to remotely control these drones.
Wednesday: Hannity asks the question as to whether Susan Rice, not being a remote control flying expert, can even claim that it was not a U.S. drone. Demands investigation.
Thursday: The Blaze features an inside source showing that not only did Susan Rice purposely give the Iranians classified information via the black box carried on the drone, but that she is part of a plot to make the U.S.A. legally bound to Sharia Law.
Friday: Rush Limbaugh calls out for Susan Rice to be charged as a traitor and deported.
Saturday: 35% of GOP voters 100% confident that Susan Rice is a secret muslim infiltrator involved in an internal power grab with Valerie Jarret to control Obama.
Sunday: News shows have moved on to discuss fiscal cliff negotiations amid lamentations from conservative media that the Iranian drone story is being swept under the rug by the liberal media.
2012-12-05 04:34:42 PM
2 votes:
I urge all Americans to join me in tying yellow ribbons around trees until Iran frees our drone.
2012-12-05 04:26:18 PM
2 votes:
It could just be a hilarious way for us to deliver a trojan to them.
2012-12-05 07:29:38 PM
1 votes:
Why do people think that they did not have data to analyze? Given that we already lost one drone over Iran I'd think they would load them up with extraneous hard drives full of interesting but completely false data. Then watch how the false data are propagated and how many resources are thrown at bad projects.

Just because it doesn't come from the factory with a HDD doesn't mean Iran may not find one.
2012-12-05 07:03:57 PM
1 votes:

queezyweezel: Snarfangel: Okay, which one of you jokers installed Stuxnet 2.0 on the intelligence drone?

Exactly. What better way to gain access than a well placed trojan horse?


This would be so funny and hilarious. And being a sort of literal trojan horse for a trojan virus.
2012-12-05 06:13:16 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: What didn't Obama know, and when didn't he know it?

There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns - there are things we do not know we don't know.


johnstodderinexile.files.wordpress.com
2012-12-05 05:55:27 PM
1 votes:
There seems to be a great deal of misconception about this particular drone so I'm going to set y'all straight on a few things. The Scan Eagle is essentially a flying camera platform that transmits video to a terrestrial receiver. Wingspan maybe 10ish feet, one person can pick one up and move it. The video signal is not encrypted and is sub-VHS quality. There is no hard drive on board for data gathering purposes. No 007 self destruct mechanisms. There is autopilot functionality via a low bandwidth satellite uplink, but you can't move video data through it. The Scan Eagle was originally developed as an aerial spotting platform to aid tuna fishing fleets (they were using helicopters previously) and as such launches/lands with the use of specialized equipment, there is no landing gear. Due to this they don't take well to crash landings so if Iran has one it's because someone gave one to them. Congratulations, Iran, welcome to 1985.
2012-12-05 05:46:58 PM
1 votes:

BigNumber12: Tickle Mittens: It could just be a hilarious way for us to deliver a trojan to them.

Wait a minute, why are all of the security doors opening?


weblogs.variety.com

Sees what you did there
2012-12-05 05:43:40 PM
1 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: When Ahmedinejad finally goes, there will be a chance for a new relation between the US and Iran. Most Iranians don't hate the US. See the Green movement of 2009. The people of Iran can put a non hardline conservative in office. That's really all it would take, presuming that the US doesn't have a hardline conservative in office at the time.

And nobody is wiping anybody off the map.


The mullahs hold the power. *hint*...they're the f*cking crazy muslin bastards. Everyone keeps saying Ahmahdinejad is an empty suit. Howso any different if a more conservative bozo wins the spot?
2012-12-05 05:32:59 PM
1 votes:
When Ahmedinejad finally goes, there will be a chance for a new relation between the US and Iran. Most Iranians don't hate the US. See the Green movement of 2009. The people of Iran can put a non hardline conservative in office. That's really all it would take, presuming that the US doesn't have a hardline conservative in office at the time.

And nobody is wiping anybody off the map.
2012-12-05 05:17:11 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: archichris: The drone is a model used by several Gulf States......


SO literally it may have been borrowed from a neighbor.

Do they know they can order MRE's from ebay, then they can claim to have captured our top secret super food technology.

"It's made of food."


THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT
2012-12-05 04:59:50 PM
1 votes:

kim jong-un: doglover: Wade_Wilson: Forgive me if there's a ready answer to this, but why not have a self destruct device on these things?

Doesn't need to be an actual "boom" or anything, I can see why that might be difficult to arrange, but why not a magnet held away from the hard drive by a spring loaded mechanism, which will be released if the machine is powered down without some sort of "mission accomplished" signal from home base?

Because that's a rube goldberg idea. C4 does a better job than a magnet, first off. Second, a spy drone isn't exactly a spy plane. It hasn't got much worth self destructing. You can build one yourself.

Anything of value should zeroize once antitamper is triggered.


Zeroize? How would that help. You can, with governmental budgets, build a machine to read a zeroized hard drive. You can't, howevever, read a melted one. Thermite or something like it. Assuming anything of value's on the drone at all. With $10,000 you can probably buy one. Not just a model, but that actual drone.
2012-12-05 04:57:42 PM
1 votes:
Iran is the master of trolling.

When Obama asked for our RQ-170 drone back, they kindly sent him this one, and painted it pink, Obama's favorite color.

i.imgur.com

I wouldn't put it past them if Iran succeeded again. It's a huge embarrassment to diplomatic relations and the rest of the world, and egg on the face of the defense contractors.
2012-12-05 04:49:13 PM
1 votes:

doglover: Wade_Wilson: Forgive me if there's a ready answer to this, but why not have a self destruct device on these things?

Doesn't need to be an actual "boom" or anything, I can see why that might be difficult to arrange, but why not a magnet held away from the hard drive by a spring loaded mechanism, which will be released if the machine is powered down without some sort of "mission accomplished" signal from home base?

Because that's a rube goldberg idea. C4 does a better job than a magnet, first off. Second, a spy drone isn't exactly a spy plane. It hasn't got much worth self destructing. You can build one yourself.


Anything of value should zeroize once antitamper is triggered.
2012-12-05 04:35:20 PM
1 votes:
Seriously, Iran got the technological boost equivalent to beating up that guy at the mall who flies the little helicopters around all day.

Iranian Engineer:
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2012-12-05 04:28:56 PM
1 votes:

Wade_Wilson: Forgive me if there's a ready answer to this, but why not have a self destruct device on these things?

Doesn't need to be an actual "boom" or anything, I can see why that might be difficult to arrange, but why not a magnet held away from the hard drive by a spring loaded mechanism, which will be released if the machine is powered down without some sort of "mission accomplished" signal from home base?


Because there's no farking hard drive to erase. It is a "dumb" drone... you fly it manually, it transmits video, but has no recording devices, no advanced electronics, and there's not really anything to hide. The Iranians have captured the same level of tech you could go to your local hobby store and buy.
2012-12-05 04:28:37 PM
1 votes:

indarwinsshadow: What data? Everything is probably downlinked. The only thing they could gather from this souped up low cost hobby aircraft is some navigation software. It doesn't carry weapons. It probably doesn't store the data, and if it does it's probably non encrypted basic point and shoot video. A big "meh". I could be wrong but I doubt it.


Yep. And even IF the thing had any sort of crypto hardware on board it likely also comes equiped with a self-destruct circuit. (yes, they do actually exist. We've had to instruct pilots that the "Push to Destroy in Case of Emergency" button on the radios we install is not a shortcut crypto zeroize switch and that it will, in fact, do exactly what it says and brick a $50,000 piece of equipment)
2012-12-05 04:27:14 PM
1 votes:

cgraves67: Cythraul: And even if they had one of our drones. Then what? Are they going to start building them? Did the drone have all our military tactics information embedded in it?

It's apparently a generic model. So it's not like they are getting proprietary US technology. Several countries are using them. The US claims it's not ours, but it could belong to any one of the NATO or Arab countries operating in the area or Israel. The Iranians could pull cryptographic software off of it, and reverse engineer it in order to do something, maybe hijack more drones.


Seriously though, private companies buy this model all the time... if you're surveying large plots of land or looking for specific geological features, these things are kind of new toys for ONG companies here in CO, but they're not difficult to come by.
2012-12-05 04:25:31 PM
1 votes:

indarwinsshadow: What data? Everything is probably downlinked. The only thing they could gather from this souped up low cost hobby aircraft is some navigation software. It doesn't carry weapons. It probably doesn't store the data, and if it does it's probably non encrypted basic point and shoot video. A big "meh". I could be wrong but I doubt it.


It doesn't have self-nav software... surveyors can buy these planes too (some ONG surveyors out here in the mountains have em)... they're just oversized manually-controlled camera platforms that transmit data...they don't actually have any data storage at all on them.
2012-12-05 04:18:49 PM
1 votes:
What data? Everything is probably downlinked. The only thing they could gather from this souped up low cost hobby aircraft is some navigation software. It doesn't carry weapons. It probably doesn't store the data, and if it does it's probably non encrypted basic point and shoot video. A big "meh". I could be wrong but I doubt it.
2012-12-05 04:16:42 PM
1 votes:
So we fill the gas tanks of one of these babies about 85% full of C4, let the Iranians "capture" it and take it to their top scientists and military bases for full analysis and when we're sure the room is full of semi to very important people.... *boom*.
2012-12-05 02:21:08 PM
1 votes:

toraque: encoded as video.


As soon as you said that I knew where you were going with that!

+1
2012-12-05 01:58:04 PM
1 votes:

Cythraul: And even if they had one of our drones. Then what? Are they going to start building them? Did the drone have all our military tactics information embedded in it?


Even worse...Obama's long-form birth certificate AND college transcripts were on that flight.
2012-12-05 01:35:57 PM
1 votes:
What didn't Obama know, and when didn't he know it?
 
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