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2012-12-05 01:25:24 PM
23 votes:
Naeem Davis, 30, was taken into custody for questioning Tuesday

"What's your name?"
"Naeem."
"That's right, what's your name?"
"Naeem."
"That's what I asked!"
"That's my name."
"What's your name?"
"No, Naeem is."
"Your name is...what?"
"No, Naeem."
*sigh* "Let's try this again. Give me your name."
"That's what I'm telling you. Naeem Davis."
"So, Davis is your first name?"
"No, Davis is my last name."
"And your first name?"
"Naeem."
"That's what I'm asking you!"
...
2012-12-05 06:58:31 PM
8 votes:
I can definitely relate to the photographer hate here. I was on the subway a few months ago, looking to possess someone for a night of fun. You see, I'm a ghost. So this mother and her two young children get on, and she forces both of them to stand even though there's plenty of seats around. The younger one starts falling asleep on her feet, and I move into position while she's drowsy and distracted. Next thing I know, some hipster chick snaps a picture with her phone and captures my soul. The douche sitting next to her clearly notices, but just nags at her rather than making her delete it, which would free me. So now I'm trapped in her goddamn bedazzled iphone, with nothing more to entertain me than her inane fb status updates about being "misunderstood". Oh well, at least I can post to fark.

/csg
2012-12-05 05:39:29 PM
6 votes:
I can understand why people were hesitant to help the guy. Sometimes, you don't know what the jackoff next to you is going to do.

For example, riding the subway in the evening a few months ago, a mother and her two young children (5~9 years old) got on. There were plenty of seats available, but the mother forced both kids to stand. After a few stops (still with empty seats) the younger girl started to fall asleep on her feet.

I thought it was potentially child abuse that might need to be reported to the authorities, so I start to take a picture of the girl with my iphone without the mother's knowledge. Suddenly, the douchebag next to me gives me a dirty look. I ignore him and continue to snap away to get evidence.

The family gets off, and suddenly, this jackass next to me tells me that it was a sleazy thing to take the photo of a child without the parent's or child's permission or knowledge.

I tried to tell him that it's okay, because I was photographing them to notify the authorities about the potential abuse, and this asshat interrupts me and screams "NO IT'S NOT! you violated that child's dignity." I apologized, said I was going to delete the photos and got off at the next station.

/csb
2012-12-05 01:31:15 PM
6 votes:
It was self-defense... Han shoved first.
2012-12-05 03:42:23 PM
3 votes:

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: Glad they caught the guy, and he's a much bigger villain than anyone else in the story, but:

He [Abbassi] told NBC's "Today" show Wednesday that he wasn't trying to take a photo of the man, but was trying to alert the motorman to what was going on by flashing his camera.

even if that is the case, the photographer still didn't need to sell the shots to a newspaper, and The Post sure as hell didn't need to publish them on the front page of it's trashpaper.

We're not doing this thread again, are we?


you could have done something to steer the thread in a different direction and save it, but instead you just posted to memorialize that it was happening. honestly, you're the real monster in all of this.
2012-12-05 02:15:06 PM
3 votes:

Snarfangel: Naeem Davis, 30, was taken into custody for questioning Tuesday

"What's your name?"
"Naeem."
"That's right, what's your name?"
"Naeem."
"That's what I asked!"
"That's my name."
"What's your name?"
"No, Naeem is."
"Your name is...what?"
"No, Naeem."
*sigh* "Let's try this again. Give me your name."
"That's what I'm telling you. Naeem Davis."
"So, Davis is your first name?"
"No, Davis is my last name."
"And your first name?"
"Naeem."
"That's what I'm asking you!"
...


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2012-12-05 05:00:08 PM
2 votes:

gittlebass: the photographer is such a liar. "I was using my flash to warn the driver!" yes, a good idea is to blind the driver with flashes so he cant see the man on the tracks, you can see the reflection of his flash in the conductors glasses. Also, i need to know what kind of autofocus this guy has, cause it takes great running and firing shots!


He was using the flash to tap out an warning. It's the city's fault that subway drivers are not taught morse code.
2012-12-05 06:33:34 PM
1 votes:

LazerFish: How do subway platforms work? Ive never seen one... Is there nowhere to go after you fall off, unless you climb back up? that seems pretty shiatty.


I was in Chicago last week, their underground system has body sized indentations every 100 feet or so. If you fell, you would still need to get upright and get to one wile avoiding both the oncoming train and the electrified third rail. I was paying special attention as there was a crazy guy going up and down the the platform screaming "I'm Rick James, biatch!" at every woman he passed.
2012-12-05 06:12:23 PM
1 votes:

LazerFish: How do subway platforms work? Ive never seen one... Is there nowhere to go after you fall off, unless you climb back up? that seems pretty shiatty.


ya, you'd think they would install ladders or something?
2012-12-05 05:56:57 PM
1 votes:

Komplex: Photographers are the biggest assholes in the world.

When they aren't farking up your shopping by taking pictures at the green market, they are exploiting people in moments of weakness for "their art."

Riding the subway in the evening a few months ago, a mother and her two young children (5~9 years old) got on. There were plenty of seats available, but the mother forced both kids to stand. After a few stops (still with empty seats) the younger girl started to fall asleep on her feet.

This hipster sitting next to me starts to take a picture of the girl with her iphone without the mother's knowledge. I give her a dirty look. She ignores me and continues to snap away in that sleazy surreptitious way.

The family get off, and I tell the hipster that it was a sleazy thing to take the photo of a child without the parent's or child's permission or knowledge.

She defensively told me that "It's OK, I'm a photographer." I screamed at her "NO IT'S NOT! you violated that child's dignity." She apologize, said she was going to delete the photos and got off at the next station.

/csb



You may want to switch to decaf.
2012-12-05 05:46:27 PM
1 votes:
When I read "homeless guy arrested", I was half expecting it to be the shoeless guy from a couple days ago.

/kind of disappointed
2012-12-05 05:40:55 PM
1 votes:

Paintbox: As a photographer, I can say that you folks just don't get it.
We capture moments, thats all.
I tend to carry my camera everywhere I go for just this reason. You see something unusual, newsworthy, whatever. You snap the pic.
The photo will probably be used to help put this animal away.
Gotta go to my OTHER job now.


Everyone with a cell phone is a photographer.
2012-12-05 05:32:25 PM
1 votes:

RidgeRunner5: Phoenix_M: RidgeRunner5: He said he was shocked that people nearer to the victim didn't try to help in the 22 seconds before the train struck.

That pisses me off more than anything else in the story.

You would have had two dead people the one on the track and the one decapitated by the train. If the Asian guy was in sound mind he would have ducked into the crawl space under the platform.

It's blatant hypocrisy, though. He's admonishing people for not doing anything, while he did nothing.


He took a photo and got paid.

That's TWO things.
2012-12-05 05:30:36 PM
1 votes:

Kanemano: toraque: BinderWoman: According to the NY Post, the suspect is being charged with 2nd degree murder and 'depraved 'indifference'.

Wait, it's illegal to be depraved?

Aw, crap.

He's only depraved on account of being deprived


No one wants a fella with a social disease.
2012-12-05 05:21:45 PM
1 votes:

toraque: BinderWoman: According to the NY Post, the suspect is being charged with 2nd degree murder and 'depraved 'indifference'.

Wait, it's illegal to be depraved?

Aw, crap.


He's only depraved on account of being deprived
2012-12-05 05:13:25 PM
1 votes:

BinderWoman: According to the NY Post, the suspect is being charged with 2nd degree murder and 'depraved 'indifference'.


Wait, it's illegal to be depraved?

Aw, crap.
2012-12-05 05:11:47 PM
1 votes:
borg: PreMortem: The guy is a known nut case panhandler. Therefore, lock his mentally deficient ass in a cage for the rest of his life.



/Thanks Reagan!

Reagan was the Governor of California not New York and the laws that closed the mental institutions in California were signed in to law by the out going governor Pat Brown not Reagan.

kendelrio:
Don't be comin in hear with all those fancy "facts" and reasonable dis-curse! Donchoo know this hyear I'd Fark? We don't cotton to high falutin folk like you round these parts!

/read in a Huck Finn voice


Reagan was also President of the United States, which includes New York, when he signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, repealing the Mental Health Systems Act.

From the Wiki:

"In 1975 Congress passed an Act requiring community mental health centers to provide aftercare services to all patients in the hopes of improving recovery rates. In 1980, just five years later, Congress passed the Mental Health Systems Act, which provided federal funding for ongoing support and development of community mental health programs.[5] This Act strengthened the connection between federal, state, and local governments with regards to funding for community mental health services. It was the final result of a long series of recommendations by Jimmy Carter's Mental Health Commission.[4] Despite this apparent progress, just a year after the Mental Health Systems Act was passed, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 was passed. The Omnibus Act was passed by the efforts of the Reagan administration as an effort to reduce domestic spending. The Act rescinded a large amount of the legislation just passed, and the legislation that was not rescinded was almost entirely revamped. It effectively ended federal funding of community treatment for the mentally ill, shifting the burden entirely to individual state governments.[7] Federal funding was now replaced by granting smaller amounts of money to the individual states.[8]"



/fancy facts indeed
//read in a JFK voice
2012-12-05 05:09:27 PM
1 votes:
Ki-Suck Han

What is that some Star Wars fan fiction? And who's "Ki"? Lucas is getting lazy with these character names.
2012-12-05 04:48:19 PM
1 votes:
He probably wouldn't have been so pissed if he had a brand new pair of boots
2012-12-05 04:46:30 PM
1 votes:
Thanks for the NYC story, Seattle PI
2012-12-05 04:44:24 PM
1 votes:
This is why NYC needs to be nuked from orbit.
2012-12-05 04:42:56 PM
1 votes:

impaler: was trying to alert the motorman to what was going on by flashing his camera.

Camera flashes are the universal sign for "man stuck on subway track."


Later, we'll here from the train engineer: "I could've stopped the train in time, but some jackass was taking a bunch of pictures right in front of me. It threw me off. I couldn't see anything."
2012-12-05 02:04:19 PM
1 votes:

Cythraul: In before 'photojournalism, how does it work?' assholes.


Yeah, well here I am. The photographer, a credential professional on assignment, explained himself thoroughly and concisely. Whether or not you choose to believe him is your business. The Post is shiat for running the photo on the front page, but anyone who doesn't think the Post would do that is naive.

The hate on this photographer is inexplicable to me, he did what he could given the situation. Unless he is actually Clark Kent of farking Peter Parker, I am pretty sure nothing else could be done.

I saw him in the Today Show, he was neither of those two.
2012-12-05 01:45:39 PM
1 votes:

impaler: was trying to alert the motorman to what was going on by flashing his camera.

Camera flashes are the universal sign for "man stuck on subway track."


Yup, and while he was being heroic and alerting the driver to something he wouldn't have been able to avoid anyway, he managed to line up a really nice shot!
2012-12-05 01:11:51 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Glad they caught the guy, and he's a much bigger villain than anyone else in the story, but:

He [Abbassi] told NBC's "Today" show Wednesday that he wasn't trying to take a photo of the man, but was trying to alert the motorman to what was going on by flashing his camera.

even if that is the case, the photographer still didn't need to sell the shots to a newspaper, and The Post sure as hell didn't need to publish them on the front page of it's trashpaper.


Waste not, want not.
 
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