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2012-12-05 10:51:09 AM  
ha ha!
 
2012-12-05 11:15:35 AM  
Thank gawd I don't have to listen to Dick Morris' old Jewish woman voice anymore.
 
2012-12-05 11:16:47 AM  
Good.

Fark off, ham steak.
 
2012-12-05 11:25:15 AM  
No, they're reducing their time, not cutting them. Probably because, you know, election season is farking OVER, and that's what they were there for in the first place.

Jeez. If only they were cut.
 
2012-12-05 12:38:11 PM  
On to fresh, new and hip on air personalities to misinform, obfuscate issues and outright lie to a gullible and scared group of people who yearn for the return to an America that only exists in their mind
 
2012-12-05 12:43:20 PM  
Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?
 
2012-12-05 12:48:07 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?


Who knows...
 
2012-12-05 12:49:04 PM  
If "wildly inaccurate" gets one banned from Fox News, how is Fox News not dead air?
 
2012-12-05 12:50:40 PM  
With Adelson saying he's prepared to spend even more next time, I have a feeling that Rove will soon be forgiven once Republicans remember that his being a lying sack of shiat is a feature, not a bug.
 
2012-12-05 12:52:31 PM  
Benching people for doing a bad job? Can we get Roger a job in government?!
 
2012-12-05 12:57:26 PM  
Will Dick Morris go on a toe sucking binge?
 
2012-12-05 01:06:39 PM  
static.igossip.com
 
2012-12-05 01:12:52 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Benching people for doing a bad job? Can we get Roger a job in government?!


Roger is responsible for a lot of those idiots in office.

You know- the ones who hates cripples like Bob Dole. Deficit minded people like Dick Cheny, who said Ronnie proved they didn't matter.
 
2012-12-05 01:16:28 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench

peg Roger Ailes?
 
2012-12-05 01:23:50 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: With Adelson saying he's prepared to spend even more next time, I have a feeling that Rove will soon be forgiven once Republicans remember that his being a lying sack of shiat is a feature, not a bug.


I don't know. Crossroads was 0-fer in the races they backed. That's not a track record of success. Hell, that's not even a track record of mediocrity. Adelson may be willing to blow $200 million to put his guy in the White House, but I'll bet damned if he's going to entrust it to a guy who lost all his races AND got all pouty about not seeing the writing on the wall, to the point that Megyn Kelly> had to call him on his BS.

I think Rove's chances of being 1/10 as prominent next election cycle are about on par with Bobby Valentine's being courted by a team with title hopes at any time in the next 4 years.
 
2012-12-05 01:38:45 PM  
I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.
 
2012-12-05 01:45:02 PM  
This just means there will be more Malikin, Coulter and Krauthammer.
 
2012-12-05 01:51:44 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?


with any luck, a massive coronary.
 
2012-12-05 01:53:58 PM  
That's like hiring an expert cheese-stealing mouse and then firing the mouse for stealing the cheese...
 
2012-12-05 02:03:04 PM  

vernonFL: This just means there will be more Malikin, Coulter and Krauthammer.


If I had heard that instead of reading it I would have concluded you were speaking German.

Funny, that.
 
2012-12-05 02:03:42 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?


Gay terrorists.

With rainbow bombs.
 
2012-12-05 02:06:57 PM  

I Said: don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.



It has been said a million times over, but the that is life in the conservative bubble. I deal with many of these people and it is astonishing the degree of denial they employ in their lives. For many years, I really did not believe it was possible to look an absolute truth in the face in completely see another lie, but these past few years have shattered that idea for me. 

I don't even bother arguing most of the time anymore with these types. I could show them a black piece of paper, tell them it was black, have them hold it, stare at it, hold it and feel it. Finally I would ask them to tear up the black paper. These bubble types would reply, "what black paper? this sheet is white". It is real life brain washing (to varying degrees of course). 

For those parts of life that don't fall into the political spectrum, these same people are more or less sane and reasonable. Get into anything government related and all bets are off. It is physically the same person, but the mindset is from another planet.
 
2012-12-05 02:10:54 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?

Gay terrorists.

With rainbow bombs.



the proper terms is spelt "teh ghey".....TEH GHEY......TEH GHEY TERRORISTS

git ur facts strate
 
2012-12-05 02:17:03 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?

Gay terrorists.

With rainbow bombs.


That would be fabulous.
 
2012-12-05 03:18:26 PM  

I Said: I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.


I actually do watch Fox News, I'm the kind of mouth breathing, gun toting, Jesus loving nincompoop the liberals here always like to malign, but even I got tired of this nonsense. Sean Hannity's Baghdad Bob impersonation was amusing at first, but after a couple of weeks of consistent polls in Obama's favor, hearing him ramble about how Romney has momentum, or just blatantly lying about the polls, just made me turn off the TV. I typically saw O'Reilly call these guys out on their nonsense, but Hannity would just egg them on even more.
 
2012-12-05 03:52:15 PM  
Good.
 
2012-12-05 03:59:10 PM  
People don't lie low for penitence; they lie low to cover their asses so they can resume their shiatty activities in the future.
 
2012-12-05 04:00:14 PM  

homelessdude: git ur facts strate


Study it out!
 
2012-12-05 04:00:33 PM  
That sucks for Dick Morris. Guess he couldn't toe the line.
 
2012-12-05 04:03:42 PM  
So that they're free to work on that Petraeus presidential run that Ailes was proposing, right?
 
2012-12-05 04:03:43 PM  
Okay, did I watch a different clip of Carl Rove than everybody else? They keep calling that a meltdown. He _sounded_ reasoned and reasonable. (And the numbers I saw suggested to me that calling Ohio at that point probably _was_ a bit premature.)

Granted, his facts were wrong; granted, he very much wanted his facts to be true. Granted, I'd truly enjoy kicking Turdblossom in the nuts repeatedly. But nothing I saw in that clip even slightly resembled anything like a meltdown. The only out-of-line behavior I saw were the awkward snide insults lobbed in by the faux news crew when he dared contradict their interpretation.
 
2012-12-05 04:04:07 PM  
CNN hires new pundits in 3...2...1
 
2012-12-05 04:04:27 PM  

homelessdude: I Said: don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.

It has been said a million times over, but the that is life in the conservative bubble. I deal with many of these people and it is astonishing the degree of denial they employ in their lives. For many years, I really did not believe it was possible to look an absolute truth in the face in completely see another lie, but these past few years have shattered that idea for me. 

I don't even bother arguing most of the time anymore with these types. I could show them a black piece of paper, tell them it was black, have them hold it, stare at it, hold it and feel it. Finally I would ask them to tear up the black paper. These bubble types would reply, "what black paper? this sheet is white". It is real life brain washing (to varying degrees of course). 

For those parts of life that don't fall into the political spectrum, these same people are more or less sane and reasonable. Get into anything government related and all bets are off. It is physically the same person, but the mindset is from another planet.


I went to a gun show last week for the first time. I was amazed and disheartened by the mass of derp being spewed, even in dark blue Western Washington.
 
2012-12-05 04:04:48 PM  
Rove is out because he made Fox News look like fools to even their most avid cool aid drinkers, mostly because reality popped their bubble. Ailes is out because he was in charge of the GOP's propaganda division and they blame him for the loss.
 
2012-12-05 04:05:17 PM  
Who cares? They will just be replaced by equally sleezey talking heads. When the supreme court makes it illegal to report false information in the news, than it will matter. They are just going to continue to use editorials disguised as news to scare and incite people.
 
2012-12-05 04:05:41 PM  

Citrate1007: Rove is out because he made Fox News look like fools to even their most avid cool aid drinkers, mostly because reality popped their bubble. Ailes is out because he was in charge of the GOP's propaganda division and they blame him for the loss.


/meant to have that as strikeout in Boobies
 
2012-12-05 04:06:02 PM  
And only a month after the elections, too. This new GOP is really quick on its feet...
 
2012-12-05 04:06:08 PM  
They finally figured one what phonies they are.
 
2012-12-05 04:07:00 PM  

ordinarysteve: They will just be replaced by equally sleezey talking heads


cloudtransit.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-05 04:07:01 PM  
And so it begins.

Ailes must have saw their numbers drop.

Anyone have confirmation of this handy? I saw it after election night that MSNBC had more viewers than FoxNews, but can't find it again.
 
2012-12-05 04:07:18 PM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: I went to a gun show last week


Dude! Gun shows are like Derp Pride Parades.
 
2012-12-05 04:07:23 PM  

BalugaJoe: They finally figured one what phonies they are.


phone call from the koche brothers complaining about them?
lawl
 
2012-12-05 04:07:37 PM  
Wow, if Fox is going to start caring about accuracy, the Tea Party is dead.
 
2012-12-05 04:08:07 PM  

SlothB77: Good.


The powers-that-be on Fark should follow Ailes lesson and limit how often you get to post.
 
2012-12-05 04:08:43 PM  

whistleridge:
I think Rove's chances of being 1/10 as prominent next election cycle are about on par with Bobby Valentine's being courted by a team with title hopes at any time in the next 4 years.


It depends on whether they return to the "ignorance is strength" policies they took during the 2012 elections. In that case, the most self-aggrandizing voices will be held above the others (as usual) and praised - so Rove could easily reclaim his throne.

Or they might be slightly less insane.
 
2012-12-05 04:15:41 PM  
Potential replacement?

www.rawstory.com
 
2012-12-05 04:17:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they're reducing their time, not cutting them. Probably because, you know, election season is farking OVER, and that's what they were there for in the first place.


Yep. There's not point to keeping election analysts on the full time payroll when there is no election to analyze.

Besides, Fox News isn't mad at those guys, because they were telling the audience exactly what they wanted to hear, just like every other Fox News talking head.
 
2012-12-05 04:17:40 PM  
Two images:

www.weakthought.org
"Is that just math you do as a republican to make yourself feel better?"

and

www.turningleft.net
 
2012-12-05 04:20:03 PM  

stoli n coke: Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they're reducing their time, not cutting them. Probably because, you know, election season is farking OVER, and that's what they were there for in the first place.

Yep. There's not point to keeping election analysts on the full time payroll when there is no election to analyze.

Besides, Fox News isn't mad at those guys, because they were telling the audience exactly what they wanted to hear, just like every other Fox News talking head.


They're not just cutting their time. This is from one of the cross-links in the linked article:

"Ailes's deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris."

This is a new and very different approach for FOX.
 
2012-12-05 04:20:23 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Potential replacement?

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]


He is quite ham-like.
 
2012-12-05 04:21:01 PM  

vernonFL: This just means there will be more Malikin,


malikin appearing on hannity is impossible to watch.
 
2012-12-05 04:24:11 PM  
Hard to be surprised. Dick Morris really stuck his foot in his mouth.

And a hooker's.
 
2012-12-05 04:24:32 PM  
Meh...they'll be back in 2016....in time for some more wildly inaccurate predictions...then fired only to be brought back in 2020..
 
2012-12-05 04:24:42 PM  

stoli n coke: Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they're reducing their time, not cutting them. Probably because, you know, election season is farking OVER, and that's what they were there for in the first place.

Yep. There's not point to keeping election analysts on the full time payroll when there is no election to analyze.

Besides, Fox News isn't mad at those guys, because they were telling the audience exactly what they wanted to hear, just like every other Fox News talking head.


Yup. In a few years Rove and Morris will be back on Fox rooting for the home team blowing smoke up their asses and all the trolls I have favorited in Red will be back with familiar taunts of "You Nate Silver worshipping libs are in for a real surprise when the unskewed polls prove correct and President Santorum wins in a landslide!"
 
2012-12-05 04:28:29 PM  

CorporatePerson: stoli n coke: Benevolent Misanthrope: No, they're reducing their time, not cutting them. Probably because, you know, election season is farking OVER, and that's what they were there for in the first place.

Yep. There's not point to keeping election analysts on the full time payroll when there is no election to analyze.

Besides, Fox News isn't mad at those guys, because they were telling the audience exactly what they wanted to hear, just like every other Fox News talking head.

Yup. In a few years Rove and Morris will be back on Fox rooting for the home team blowing smoke up their asses and all the trolls I have favorited in Red will be back with familiar taunts of "You Nate Silver worshipping libs are in for a real surprise when the unskewed polls prove correct and President Santorum wins in a FROTHY landslide!"



FTFY
 
2012-12-05 04:29:35 PM  

TalenLee: homelessdude: git ur facts strate

Study it out!


HA! That has been my favorite meme of the past month. When that video appeared right at the end of the campaign, it was like icing on the cake. Even sweeter after the results came in.

i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-05 04:30:13 PM  
Fox "News" benching someone for being inaccurate? Why start now?
 
2012-12-05 04:30:34 PM  
Keep that chin up, Karl. No matter how powerless you may feel right now, just take solace in that you still have the power to completely shut down a water park for the day, with just one of your turds.
 
2012-12-05 04:32:12 PM  
Was there any force choke larity when he got the news?
 
2012-12-05 04:33:23 PM  

vernonFL: This just means there will be more Malikin, Coulter and Krauthammer.


Coulter and Krauthammer maybe, but Malkin's been banished to the intellectual wasteland known as Fox & Friends; the primetime shows won't have anything to do with her. And anyone from Breitbart has been persona non grata at Fox News for some time now.
 
2012-12-05 04:34:50 PM  

Mixolydian Master: Keep that chin up, Karl.


hey, that's mean, it's glandular.
 
2012-12-05 04:36:02 PM  

Mixolydian Master: Keep that chin up, Karl.


Which one?
 
2012-12-05 04:43:19 PM  
Are they finally going to go with Tebow? It's about time.
 
2012-12-05 04:44:40 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Fox "News" benching someone for being inaccurate? Why start now?


Exactly. Because conservatives live in their own reality, anyone who tows the party line is instantly more credible than anyone who claims to be some sort of "expert." If the news team at Fox all just got together at the end of election night and issued a stern lecture to their viewers saying "You didn't believe hard enough or Romney would've done it" they wouldn't be having these problems right now.

Hell, maybe they should've just declared Romney the winner and stuck with that for the next four years. It's a big task but it's easier than self reflection.
 
2012-12-05 04:45:58 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Fox "News" benching someone for being inaccurate? Why start now?


He's benching them for making FNC and the GOP look bad, which he has quite a history of doing.
 
2012-12-05 04:48:08 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Thank gawd I don't have to listen to Dick Morris' old Jewish woman voice anymore.


Why did you "have to" before? Not tryin' to be a dick, srsly askin'.
 
2012-12-05 04:49:13 PM  

ObamaTheOmnipotent: Meh...they'll be back in 2016....in time for some more wildly inaccurate predictions...then fired only to be brought back in 2020..


Yup, don't forget that FOX viewers are by nature gullible and uninformed. Rove and Morris will be trotted out again, having learned their lesson, and THIS TIME they will be right.
 
2012-12-05 04:51:01 PM  
For those who missed Jon Stewart's classic segment on Karl Rove's meltdown.
 
2012-12-05 04:51:09 PM  

impaler: If "wildly inaccurate" gets one banned from Fox News, how is Fox News not dead air?


What it means is, because they didn't actually get Romney elected, they were wrong in the sense that they didn't produce Ailes' desired outcome. Kind of like the way Stalin used to execute people when they implemented his policies and they didn't work.
 
2012-12-05 04:51:46 PM  

spman: I Said: I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.

I actually do watch Fox News, I'm the kind of mouth breathing, gun toting, Jesus loving nincompoop the liberals here always like to malign, but even I got tired of this nonsense. Sean Hannity's Baghdad Bob impersonation was amusing at first, but after a couple of weeks of consistent polls in Obama's favor, hearing him ramble about how Romney has momentum, or just blatantly lying about the polls, just made me turn off the TV. I typically saw O'Reilly call these guys out on their nonsense, but Hannity would just egg them on even more.


If you recognize that FOX was plainly and confidently lying about the election doesn't that make you wonder about what else they may be lying about?
 
2012-12-05 04:52:18 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Okay, did I watch a different clip of Carl Rove than everybody else? They keep calling that a meltdown. He _sounded_ reasoned and reasonable. (And the numbers I saw suggested to me that calling Ohio at that point probably _was_ a bit premature.)

Granted, his facts were wrong; granted, he very much wanted his facts to be true. Granted, I'd truly enjoy kicking Turdblossom in the nuts repeatedly. But nothing I saw in that clip even slightly resembled anything like a meltdown. The only out-of-line behavior I saw were the awkward snide insults lobbed in by the faux news crew when he dared contradict their interpretation.


At the time they still hadn't counted the bluest, blue county in Ohio... that has been blue since forever.... that Obama won with 73odd% of the vote last time.... that Romney needed to carry by 80+% to win

And this was all known by everyone when Rove was pulling his shtick.
 
2012-12-05 04:52:51 PM  
Hopefully Rupert croaks ASAP also
 
2012-12-05 04:54:12 PM  
That's only Fair.

Now, will Fox get rid of two of its liberals to be Balanced?

What?
 
2012-12-05 04:55:25 PM  

Ace Rimmer: And this was all known by everyone when Rove was pulling his shtick.


Fair enough, he was wrong. Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.
 
2012-12-05 04:58:42 PM  

I Said: I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.


I think the difference is that this time they didn't only say things that were objectively false. This time, they actually said things that were both objectively false and which were known to the majority of viewers to be objectively false.

You can be wrong on Fox News as long as the majority of viewers don't have any idea how wrong you are. Since Fox News viewers are pretty uninformed, that's generally not too hard to trick. Remember, this is a network that imagines a never-ending War on Christmas, and tirelessly spin Sarah Palin's completely nonsensical answer about Paul Revere ringing bells to warn the British that we were armed as a "mostly correct" answer to the gotcha question "What have you seen so far today [in Boston], and what are you going to take away from your visit?"

But it turns out that even most ardent Fox News viewers are still aware of who won the 2012 elections. There's almost no way to spin or obfuscate how blatantly wrong they were about this. They can hem and haw and say that Mitt Romney got more votes among all the people who matter (i.e., white people), but they can't get away from the cold hard reality that a lot of pundits came on Fox news to predict that Obama would lose, and then Obama did not lose.
 
2012-12-05 04:58:52 PM  
Who is maintaining the new and improved Link-ified list of things conspiring against the GOP?
 
2012-12-05 04:59:43 PM  
Ace Rimmer: And this was all known by everyone when Rove was pulling his shtick.

MooseUpNorth: Fair enough, he was wrong. Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.


Watch the Jon Stewart clip I posted earlier in this thread. Karl Rove was wrong. He was lying.
 
2012-12-05 05:00:36 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Potential replacement?


Why would you hire a Blue Atlas Spruce to be on the news?
 
2012-12-05 05:00:52 PM  

ghare: Wow, if Fox is going to start caring about accuracy, the Tea Party is dead.


Fox helped create the Tea Party in hopes of defeating Obama......
 
2012-12-05 05:03:42 PM  
Huh, I guess elections DO have consequences!
 
2012-12-05 05:04:03 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Who's going to bench Roger Ailes?


snakkle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
"You're going to need a bigger bench."

 
2012-12-05 05:04:08 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 05:04:54 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 05:05:12 PM  

odinsposse: I actually do watch Fox News, I'm the kind of mouth breathing, gun toting, Jesus loving nincompoop the liberals here always like to malign, but even I got tired of this nonsense. Sean Hannity's Baghdad Bob impersonation was amusing at first, but after a couple of weeks of consistent polls in Obama's favor, hearing him ramble about how Romney has momentum, or just blatantly lying about the polls, just made me turn off the TV. I typically saw O'Reilly call these guys out on their nonsense, but Hannity would just egg them on even more.

If you recognize that FOX was plainly and confidently lying about the election doesn't that make you wonder about what else they may be lying about?


Sure Fox blatantly lies, but it drives the libs crazy so he'll keep on watching it. It's what the founders would want.
 
2012-12-05 05:07:13 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: That's like hiring an expert cheese-stealing mouse and then firing the mouse for stealing the cheese...


So much farking THIS!

If Morris and Rove had initially predicted that Romney would get his dick knocked in the dirt on election night, they wouldn't be on Fox News in the first, second and LAST place!
 
2012-12-05 05:09:28 PM  
I always preferred the Jeep Honcho.

www.adclassix.com
 
2012-12-05 05:15:30 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Ace Rimmer: And this was all known by everyone when Rove was pulling his shtick.

Fair enough, he was wrong. Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.


Well what would you call it then? Complete and utter denial? A break with reality? What?

He demanded the on air bimbos check the numbers with the smart people. When they confirmed their numbers he STILL insisted he was right.

It would be like Darrell Waltrip insisting Tony Stewart was going to win a race... even though his car was sitting in the garage wrecked.... and he was 10 laps down with only one lap left in the race.... and demanding they had to call the pit crew to confirm there was no way he was going to win
 
2012-12-05 05:18:32 PM  
Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.
 
2012-12-05 05:36:17 PM  

MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.


I dunno. The Pope is still going strong.
 
2012-12-05 05:42:54 PM  

homelessdude: TalenLee: homelessdude: git ur facts strate

Study it out!

HA! That has been my favorite meme of the past month. When that video appeared right at the end of the campaign, it was like icing on the cake. Even sweeter after the results came in.

[i.qkme.me image 200x200]


Bonus, super subtle gay joke.
 
2012-12-05 05:52:00 PM  

MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.


Pretty much this. Rove was hanging on by a string when Dubya got 'forgotten' and he was only really good for delivering on what he promised, more or less. After his temper tantrum (and fleecing of various GOP funders), he's lucky he's only losing his job. And this is what it is, pretty much. Permission isn't going to be given for anything important unless something changed.
 
2012-12-05 05:54:17 PM  

Rapmaster2000: MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.

I dunno. The Pope is still going strong.


The Pope hasn't really pissed away, anything. We might not agree with what he did with the money, but it was put towards some sort of use.

Karl Rove, on the other hand, is the the Jason Bay of politics; a million-dollar player who turns out to be completely awful.
 
2012-12-05 06:01:23 PM  
If Rove had had a meltdown, the entire studio would have gone sliding into the ocean on a wave of grease.
 
2012-12-05 06:01:32 PM  

odinsposse: spman: I Said: I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.

I actually do watch Fox News, I'm the kind of mouth breathing, gun toting, Jesus loving nincompoop the liberals here always like to malign, but even I got tired of this nonsense. Sean Hannity's Baghdad Bob impersonation was amusing at first, but after a couple of weeks of consistent polls in Obama's favor, hearing him ramble about how Romney has momentum, or just blatantly lying about the polls, just made me turn off the TV. I typically saw O'Reilly call these guys out on their nonsense, but Hannity would just egg them on even more.

If you recognize that FOX was plainly and confidently lying about the election doesn't that make you wonder about what else they may be lying about?


I still like some of the content on the network, I can respect Brit Hume, Shepard Smith, Neil Cavuto, even Bill, but after Bill gets off the TV each night is when the Derp starts.
 
2012-12-05 06:02:50 PM  
I have to preface this by saying I have never visited a prostitute and undoubtedly never will. But I can imagine someone paying a hooker to suck his toes. I simply cannot imagine someone paying a hooker for the privilege of sucking her toes. I just can't.
 
2012-12-05 06:04:18 PM  

MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away hundreds of millions in donations and still get to keep your job.


FTFY
 
2012-12-05 06:11:42 PM  

MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.


Yeah, the meltdown I was seeing wasn't Rove upset about how wrong he was. It was a man who saw everything he had ever built for himself going down in flames, with the realization that it was over. He went from being the Bodhistva of the Bush Victory to a joke in one moment.

To be clear, Rove will never really go away. He will continue to do speeches on the derp circuit, write columns for the derp publications, and be constantly quoted by the derp brigade. But his time as an influencer and a major force in the party is gone like a fart in a fan factory.
 
2012-12-05 06:20:35 PM  

Ace Rimmer: Well what would you call it then? Complete and utter denial? A break with reality? What?


His modus operendi. What he's always been paid to do. Lie through his teeth. Sort of like Baghdad Bob did. Still not a meltdown. It just means that he stays bought.

/ (Although if Anonymous was at all truthful about bringing down his tracking servers, his primary sources of info/analysis was in utter disarray. There's some small doubt he may have been operating on stale/confused data.)
 
2012-12-05 06:30:41 PM  
So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?
 
2012-12-05 06:33:28 PM  

spman: odinsposse: spman: I Said: I don't understand why this is happening. Morris and Rove made insane predictions, yes, but I didn't see anyone on the right contradict their stupidity. Furthermore, Rove and Morris saying things that are wildly untrue isn't ground breaking stuff. Neither is FNC looking like fools when what is said on there is blatantly untrue.

I actually do watch Fox News, I'm the kind of mouth breathing, gun toting, Jesus loving nincompoop the liberals here always like to malign, but even I got tired of this nonsense. Sean Hannity's Baghdad Bob impersonation was amusing at first, but after a couple of weeks of consistent polls in Obama's favor, hearing him ramble about how Romney has momentum, or just blatantly lying about the polls, just made me turn off the TV. I typically saw O'Reilly call these guys out on their nonsense, but Hannity would just egg them on even more.

If you recognize that FOX was plainly and confidently lying about the election doesn't that make you wonder about what else they may be lying about?


I still like some of the content on the network, I can respect Brit Hume, Shepard Smith, Neil Cavuto, even Bill, but after Bill gets off the TV each night is when the Derp starts.


*cat rub*

You're all right. :)

We NEED a loyal opposition who can disagree and point things out, and then go beering with at dinnertime.
 
2012-12-05 07:03:03 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?


Yeah.

It is Fox News, not the US Government after all. Why would Ailes care what Rove did when he was off the clock?
 
2012-12-05 07:15:20 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: MrEricSir: Rove is over. You don't piss away millions in donations and still get to keep your job.

Pretty much this. Rove was hanging on by a string when Dubya got 'forgotten' and he was only really good for delivering on what he promised, more or less. After his temper tantrum (and fleecing of various GOP funders), he's lucky he's only losing his job. And this is what it is, pretty much. Permission isn't going to be given for anything important unless something changed.


Did he really fleece big donors, or did he launder their money for them and provide them with huge tax shelters?
 
2012-12-05 07:31:08 PM  
My world is being turned upside down. Fox is getting rid of people who are proven liars, wrong and just plain stupid? This has to be a misprint. They won't have anyone left on the air.
 
2012-12-05 08:15:05 PM  
Fox News Is Taking Karl Rove Off The Air

www.copperhillimages.com

btw props to mrcookieface, the Farker who originally animooted ^this^
 
2012-12-05 09:18:00 PM  
Well suck my toes!
 
2012-12-05 09:47:05 PM  

whidbey:
btw props to mrcookieface, the Farker who originally animooted ^this^


I wish he had included that one sourpuss in the upper left....he's disturbing in his lack of good cheer.
 
2012-12-05 10:35:12 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?


He could be benching him because Rove failed at stealing Ohio.
 
2012-12-05 11:02:04 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.


Yeah, that's what I thought, too. I'm pretty much Lefty McLefterson (check this out if you haven't already), but all I see is him getting worked up a little bit, nothing like a "meltdown". The first time I saw it, my reaction was more or less "that's it?"
 
2012-12-06 12:39:27 AM  

fatassbastard: MooseUpNorth: Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. I'm pretty much Lefty McLefterson (check this out if you haven't already), but all I see is him getting worked up a little bit, nothing like a "meltdown". The first time I saw it, my reaction was more or less "that's it?"


Could a canned ham HAVE an actual meltdown, though, is the question?
 
2012-12-06 01:36:58 AM  

MooseUpNorth: Ace Rimmer: And this was all known by everyone when Rove was pulling his shtick.

Fair enough, he was wrong. Still, meltdown? I still don't see it.


Meltdown might be too strong a word, but its not inaccurate.

Even the most biased news agencies have no interest in misreporting election results. You aren't going to be able to convince your viewers that Romney is President for the next four years.

What makes the whole thing 'meltdown-ish' is that, in his position as commentator, he decided to take on the roll of election-caller, which is a 'reality-based' position in which his 'skills' don't apply.

Essentially, it's his job to comment on the election results, not to determine them. And he should have known that.
 
2012-12-06 04:26:56 AM  

MooseUpNorth: if Anonymous was at all truthful


Think about that corollary for a minute.
 
2012-12-06 05:27:28 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: With Adelson saying he's prepared to spend even more next time, I have a feeling that Rove will soon be forgiven once Republicans remember that his being a lying sack of shiat is a feature, not a bug.


I honestly believe that Mr. Adelson will not be with us in the next four years. Mr. Adelson certainly isn't a picture of health. However, he does have money to keep himself alive for a while. Hopefully, it will be swift but painful.
 
2012-12-06 06:14:56 AM  
It's rapidly becoming clear that Rove's meltdown on election night was him realizing that his relevance and career were crumbling before his eyes, and desperately trying to will the universe into producing a different outcome. He's been coasting on his reputation as some kind of ruthless political savant ever since 2004, but what has he really achieved since then? Huge losses in 2006 and 2008; 2010 staunched the bleeding, but I dunno how much of that he can really claim credit for. This election may have finally finished him in politics. You don't blow hundreds of millions of dollars without a single victory and then keep on dictating strategy like nothing happened.

You almost have to feel sorry for him, but then you remember that he outed a CIA agent as an act of political vengeance against her husband, and should probably be in jail right now.
 
2012-12-06 07:20:24 AM  

qorkfiend: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?

He could be benching him because Rove failed at stealing Ohio.



upload.wikimedia.org
Exactly. Stealing Ohio is a Republican tradition. Just ask this gentleman about 2004. Not that you'll get the truth out of him, but...
 
2012-12-06 08:40:21 AM  

EyeballKid: qorkfiend: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?

He could be benching him because Rove failed at stealing Ohio.


[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x330]
Exactly. Stealing Ohio is a Republican tradition. Just ask this gentleman about 2004. Not that you'll get the truth out of him, but...


A hell of a lot easier than trying to ask Micheal Connel about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Connell
 
2012-12-06 10:29:09 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: MooseUpNorth: if Anonymous was at all truthful

Think about that corollary for a minute.


Oh, I know. If they were right...

It was well reported that Rove's election tracking servers failed. Anonymous later claimed credit for that (while claiming credit for having stopped a no-shiat actual attempt to systemically tamper with voting machines through Rove's servers.)

So I say "if at all truthful" because I've seen no evidence to support either claim. I consider the first claim plausible on its face (I don't see Rove shelling out for the talent to harden their servers against determined attacks, and I can see anonymous doing it out of general 'principle'/malice), but I can't evaluate the second claim without evidence.

But I don't think it matters much for the purposes of my read of Rove's reaction. Rove's primary source of data failed, and was likely to have been scrambling to use whatever data his people could scrounge. Mere "Fog of War" can cause that sort of apparent 'disconnect'.

I've no doubt that Rove was mentally shiatting himself, his situation was (and still is) pretty dire, but he presented himself well on camera. The Faux News (w)anchors were the ones who visibly lost composure at being contradicted. That's all I'm saying.
 
Bf+
2012-12-06 10:30:14 AM  

King Something: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 250x168]


Damn, well played.
 
2012-12-06 11:51:04 AM  

EyeballKid: qorkfiend: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: So Ailes benched Turdblossom because of inaccuracy and NOT BECAUSE ROVE TRIED TO STEAL OHIO THROUGH ELECTRONIC VOTER FRAUD?

He could be benching him because Rove failed at stealing Ohio.

Exactly. Stealing Ohio is a Republican tradition. Just ask this gentleman about 2004. Not that you'll get the truth out of him, but...


I met that scumbag when he was running for Governor. Pure, concentrated evil.
 
2012-12-06 02:41:23 PM  

Cletus C.: That's only Fair.

Now, will Fox get rid of two of its liberals to be Balanced?

What?


It's like the old joke about the drummer. You know how to tell when the drummer's riser is level? He's drooling equally out of both sides of his mouth. That's how we'll know when FNC is exactly balanced.
 
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