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(Business Insider)   Andrew Zimmern takes a short break from gobbling down raw yak testicles and dry-aged tapir anus to inform the general public that they know nothing of fine dining and have no business opining about it on Yelp   (businessinsider.com) divider line 18
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2820 clicks; posted to Business » on 05 Dec 2012 at 1:19 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-12-05 01:42:38 PM  
4 votes:
Sites like Yelp and Tripadvisor are good if you know how to use them.

I tend to ignore 5 star and 1 star reviews and look at the 2 & 4s.

Then you see what people are complaining about. If several people have the same issue, then you may be on to something.
2012-12-05 12:53:26 PM  
4 votes:
If we know nothing about fine dining, then reviews from other people who know nothing of fine dining should be suitable.
2012-12-06 05:20:59 AM  
2 votes:

brap: I've shared this story before so sorry if you've heard it but one can have only so many Yelp stories.  A few years back friends of mine opened a restaraunt on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, putting themselves in all sorts of insane debt to do so. Anyhew, the remodel was finally done for the most part, staff had been hired, and it was time to celebrate. So, they threw a party.

Long story short, people see a crowded new restaraunt, they get curious. Throughout the evening curious people wandered in off the street. Rather than turn people away, the owner sat them, gave them beers, and let them know that the place wasn't officially open but they were free to look at the menu he had planned for the opening next week and he said could make them some burgers and shuck them some oysters if they liked.

The next day the place got its first Yelp review - and I paraphrase...

"On a whim, me and my husband went to RESTARAUNT NAME for the first time last night. What a mistake! The menu was EXTREMELY like TWO ITEMS limited, the wait staff was drunk and innattentive, the music WAY too loud. People were DANCING. It took 15 minutes for me to get my burger, which though delicious was made by the same waiter that took my order! What sort of shoddy outfit is this?!?!? The complimentary drinks were a pathetic attempt to win back our favor. I will NEVER come back to this place." 


As someone who worked in fine dining for a LOT of years, this may be the best post I've ever seen on Fark. There aren't enough palms or faces in the world to express my exasperated mirth.

Thank you, kind sir/madam.
2012-12-05 01:28:41 PM  
2 votes:
Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.
2012-12-05 01:14:31 PM  
2 votes:
A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link
2012-12-06 09:07:44 AM  
1 votes:
That fat glutton occupies rare ground at the intersection of Good Eats and MTV's Jackass. He is a walking truth-or-dare stunt, and in my opinion is more of a circus sideshow novelty act that a true epicurean. Therefore, Mr. Zimmern, please stop trying to convince us you are a viable authority on anything other than gross-out food porn, and kindly go fark yourself with a basketful of balut. One at a time. Slowly.

Thank you.
2012-12-06 08:52:25 AM  
1 votes:
Just like Amazon reviews for products, some can be pretty helpful while others are just totally useless. I still use Urbanspoon to try new places to eat and haven't been steered wrong. Granted I wait till there are enough reviews to reduce skewing by a disgruntle patron or a shill for the restaurant.
2012-12-05 10:57:09 PM  
1 votes:
Until he learns to chew with his farking mouth closed, I have no interest in anything he has to say.
2012-12-05 07:38:32 PM  
1 votes:
I've shared this story before so sorry if you've heard it but one can have only so many Yelp stories.  A few years back friends of mine opened a restaraunt on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, putting themselves in all sorts of insane debt to do so. Anyhew, the remodel was finally done for the most part, staff had been hired, and it was time to celebrate. So, they threw a party.

Long story short, people see a crowded new restaraunt, they get curious. Throughout the evening curious people wandered in off the street. Rather than turn people away, the owner sat them, gave them beers, and let them know that the place wasn't officially open but they were free to look at the menu he had planned for the opening next week and he said could make them some burgers and shuck them some oysters if they liked.

The next day the place got its first Yelp review - and I paraphrase...

"On a whim, me and my husband went to RESTARAUNT NAME for the first time last night. What a mistake! The menu was EXTREMELY like TWO ITEMS limited, the wait staff was drunk and innattentive, the music WAY too loud. People were DANCING. It took 15 minutes for me to get my burger, which though delicious was made by the same waiter that took my order! What sort of shoddy outfit is this?!?!? The complimentary drinks were a pathetic attempt to win back our favor. I will NEVER come back to this place." 
2012-12-05 03:45:45 PM  
1 votes:

tricycleracer: Rapmaster2000: I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.

Okay, you've inspired me to find a local place that I love and adore and would recommend to anyone and find a horrible review...

Casita Taqueria

We recently moved from the Chicago area and were excited about going after reading a review in the newspaper. Boy, were we sorry. First, you're not sure if you get waited on or not. Not! You order your food and they bring to you (which is OK if you know that). We though we would authentic mexican food. NOT!!! The corn tortillas were very good, but the rest was not authentic. Black beans!! Where's the pinto beans and mexican rice and since when do you have to BUY chips and salsa (chips were good). Oh, and it was not inexpensive. Come on now, mexican food should be really inexpensive., DISAPPOINTED.

Go back to flyover country.


That is a horrible review, but i got more of a chuckle from someone in St. Petersburg calling Chicago "flyover country".
2012-12-05 02:56:12 PM  
1 votes:

tjsands1118: pute kisses like a man: yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time

This I work in a sushi restaurant, we have a dollar night, it's all the end leftover, small cuts, and a cheaper grade of tuna; we pre roll maki and rice balls. It is the McDonald's equivalent of sushi. We regularly have a line around the building and people raving about how great it is. I know it's shiat, I made it, but people will constantly tell anyone who listen about how it's amazing and such a great price, like they were a freaking foodie dinning at a Michelin star restaurant. It helps my paycheck, but it's really discourage me in hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


so you've probably got a better perspective on it.

I just grew up thinking my mom was the greatest chef on the planet. going out to eat was always a disappointment, even as an adult. then i moved to new orleans, and this is the first city I've ever lived in that has a few restaurants whose food is better than or at least comparable to my mom's cooking. or, they offer cuisine that my mom would never make (and it's blow out your brains awesome).

but, whenever I'm on vacation and try to find someplace to eat, the internet is almost invariably a bad source of information. i've had much better luck finding a really good bar and asking the bartenders where to eat. or even asking waiters at a restaurant where I should eat next.
2012-12-05 02:30:41 PM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: Here's the deal: There are people in this world, a lot of people, who go out to eat for the express purpose of being disappointed.


You've got a point. In 68 years on this earth, my father has never had a steak cooked correctly. Gotta be the unluckiest guy ever.
2012-12-05 02:17:10 PM  
1 votes:

tricycleracer: Okay, you've inspired me to find a local place that I love and adore and would recommend to anyone and find a horrible review...


Here's the deal: There are people in this world, a lot of people, who go out to eat for the express purpose of being disappointed. My own grandmother is like this. My grandmother has never had a positive dining experience in her entire life. I've literally never been out to eat with her when she didn't get upset about something, be it the temperature of the restaurant, the noise level, the server, the food...whatever.

The weird thing is, she's a wonderful, nice person. And I know other people who are the same way.

There is something about restaurants that trigger a kind of instinct in some people that forces them to be disappointed. A lot of these types of people write online reviews.
2012-12-05 02:16:08 PM  
1 votes:

Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.


I'd love to know when she called. I get better responses from restaurants if I call with feedback (good or bad) during not-slammed times.
2012-12-05 01:59:37 PM  
1 votes:
The fundamental problem with online reviews is that they're written by the type of people who write online reviews, i.e., crazy people.
2012-12-05 01:44:22 PM  
1 votes:
I find Yelp pretty useless.

When travelling, I'll use Urbanspoon to find places to dine and Google Maps results for "dive bar" to find places to drink. Haven't been steered wrong yet.
2012-12-05 01:38:10 PM  
1 votes:
Professional critic in favor of his own job security. Film at 11.
2012-12-05 12:59:01 PM  
1 votes:
I tend to agree with Zimmerman on this one: The general public is too stupid to have an opinion on what kind of food and service they like when they go out to eat. The masses should let the experts tell them what they like.
 
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