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(Business Insider)   Andrew Zimmern takes a short break from gobbling down raw yak testicles and dry-aged tapir anus to inform the general public that they know nothing of fine dining and have no business opining about it on Yelp   (businessinsider.com) divider line 117
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2012-12-06 09:07:44 AM
That fat glutton occupies rare ground at the intersection of Good Eats and MTV's Jackass. He is a walking truth-or-dare stunt, and in my opinion is more of a circus sideshow novelty act that a true epicurean. Therefore, Mr. Zimmern, please stop trying to convince us you are a viable authority on anything other than gross-out food porn, and kindly go fark yourself with a basketful of balut. One at a time. Slowly.

Thank you.
 
2012-12-06 09:41:27 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: tjsands1118

hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


You don't get to complain about anyone's palate until you learn how to spell 'palate'.


No society has a refined palate - because like all things "hip", the followers of hip will move the goalpost and declare whatever the masses like as un-refined.
 
2012-12-06 10:50:31 AM
Yelp is great if you know what you are looking for in the reviews, just like Amazon reviews.

I find it quite helpful, and it has rarely led me astray.
 
2012-12-06 11:03:25 AM
Mr. Zimmern did a terrible job of doing his job, which is providing informative and substantive commentary. Maybe if Yelp was a ham sandwich he would have been more throrough. The problem with his statements isn't that they don't contain a grain of truth, but that they are not placed in proper context in order to be useful to the reader......kind of like a number of Yelp reviews.

Yelp is: only as good as the number and quality of reviews it has for a particular establishment.
Yelp is not: a thorough and insightful review of all aspects of an establishment's performance provided by a recognized expert in the field.

But - there are only a limited number of expert critics, and even they disagree, so Yelp does a couple of things that an expert critic cannot. 1) visit every establishment within days of opening. 2) comment on everything about the establishment (theoretically). I rarely hear a food critic discuss parking options or nearest metro/bus stop, but Yelpers are helpful on that kind of secondary info.

I would have much preferred and I think the internet deserves a much more thorough analysis of Yelp's good and bad aspects from a professional food critic. Perhaps a representative sample of where he agreed with and disagreed with comments and ratings of a couple of establishments and why.
 
2012-12-06 11:20:55 AM
Yelp is, usually, a waste. The star system is a mess. The commentary is, at times, marginally helpful.

I mean... what the fark is going on with someone's rating of 1 or 2 stars for a place then turn around and say the food was delicious?

And unless there's some actual numbers behind it... a place with 5 reviews isn't enough. 50 or more... chances are, the averages and commentary may have actual people involved, rather than meatpuppets.
 
2012-12-06 12:43:17 PM
Yelp is invaluable if you have job that requires you to travel. I don't use it locally because I already know a ton of foodies and we all test out restaurants for each other, but when you show up in Leesville, LA, you really have no idea where to go. Thanks to yelp I got to try a Thai restaurant that is better than any of the Thai places I tried while I lived in DC. Without yelp, probably wouldn't have gone to it, I hate going to ethnic places that are poorly done (LOOKING AT YOU 90% of Chinese restaurants)
 
2012-12-06 01:43:00 PM

Cinaed: Yelp is, usually, a waste. The star system is a mess. The commentary is, at times, marginally helpful.

I mean... what the fark is going on with someone's rating of 1 or 2 stars for a place then turn around and say the food was delicious?


Yeah, i've seen a review that fully consisted of "so far so good" 3-stars and another place got 2-stars because "They also charged for coffee which should be a given with dessert so that was a little disappointing".

Finally, the same place as that last one, a German restaurant, only got 2 stars because "''m a pescetarian & everything on the entree menu was meat beside one item which was shrimp but I'm not too keen on shrimp "
 
2012-12-06 01:48:00 PM

syberpud: Englebert Slaptyback: tjsands1118

hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


You don't get to complain about anyone's palate until you learn how to spell 'palate'.

No society has a refined palate - because like all things "hip", the followers of hip will move the goalpost and declare whatever the masses like as un-refined.


Watching Gordon Ramsay's cooking show the F-Word and his reality show Kitchen Nightmares is a great introduction to the concept that the only difference between refined and unrefined is in the dining room, and not the kitchen. I learned an awful lot about preparing meat simply, and luxuriously, from the F-Word.
 
2012-12-06 03:26:44 PM
This place was awesome! Fantastic, attentive servers and an incredibly compfortable atmosphere. Great food, and gigantic portions for the price! I love this place, and plan to come back regularly!

Two stars

/WTF?
 
2012-12-06 04:06:44 PM

Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.


It's interesting isn't it? Where I work, we have a yearly survey which is intended to do some good so as to allow the upper management about how we feel about our work envrionment and the jorb as a whole. So, there's maybe 40 questions and each one you get to rate on a scale of 1-5.

After about 3 years of this, I figured out that if you rate a question 2 it's the same as rating it a 4. So the only way to have any effect on the survey of employees is to vote at the extremes.
 
2012-12-06 04:28:44 PM
My favorite review was for a hotel. The guy gave it 1 star out of 10. The reason: location.

Really? You didn't take five seconds to look at the map before you booked?
 
2012-12-06 04:30:12 PM

tjsands1118: pute kisses like a man: yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time

This I work in a sushi restaurant, we have a dollar night, it's all the end leftover, small cuts, and a cheaper grade of tuna; we pre roll maki and rice balls. It is the McDonald's equivalent of sushi. We regularly have a line around the building and people raving about how great it is. I know it's shiat, I made it, but people will constantly tell anyone who listen about how it's amazing and such a great price, like they were a freaking foodie dinning at a Michelin star restaurant. It helps my paycheck, but it's really discourage me in hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


So, you're saying I might not get the same pizza on "two for one-Thursday" at my local?
 
2012-12-06 05:29:53 PM

tjsands1118: pute kisses like a man: yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time

This I work in a sushi restaurant, we have a dollar night, it's all the end leftover, small cuts, and a cheaper grade of tuna; we pre roll maki and rice balls. It is the McDonald's equivalent of sushi. We regularly have a line around the building and people raving about how great it is. I know it's shiat, I made it, but people will constantly tell anyone who listen about how it's amazing and such a great price, like they were a freaking foodie dinning at a Michelin star restaurant. It helps my paycheck, but it's really discourage me in hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


So what should someone use? Zagat's? They only do the major cities.
 
2012-12-06 08:58:07 PM
Tapir anus has gone downhill ever since they started getting it domestically. True connoisseurs insist on true Javanese tapir anus for the best anus-y goodness.

Anus.
 
kab
2012-12-07 08:57:24 AM
I've used yelp exactly once, to find out about any good pizzerias in this area that I may not have known about. The one with the highest rating, lo and behold, actually IS really that good.

While there's all sorts of room for abuse of any rating system (as if there isn't for any other form of critique), to basically say that people don't know what they enjoy eating, and therefore shouldn't be voicing opinions about it, is beyond idiotic.
 
2012-12-07 01:40:12 PM
fark Andrew Zimmern.
What kind of NYC chef cant speak spanish?
 
2012-12-07 05:54:34 PM

FinFangFark: Usually here in Houston if you look at the Chinese restaurant reviews, there are always complaints that they serve their sodas single serving in a can,


To be fair, that does deter them from putting pee-pee in your Coke.
 
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