If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Business Insider)   Andrew Zimmern takes a short break from gobbling down raw yak testicles and dry-aged tapir anus to inform the general public that they know nothing of fine dining and have no business opining about it on Yelp   (businessinsider.com) divider line 117
    More: Ironic, Andrew Zimmern, fine dining, Just the Same, Bizarre Foods, crowd sourcing, review site, Yelp, rants  
•       •       •

2819 clicks; posted to Business » on 05 Dec 2012 at 1:19 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



117 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-12-05 12:53:26 PM
If we know nothing about fine dining, then reviews from other people who know nothing of fine dining should be suitable.
 
2012-12-05 12:59:01 PM
I tend to agree with Zimmerman on this one: The general public is too stupid to have an opinion on what kind of food and service they like when they go out to eat. The masses should let the experts tell them what they like.
 
2012-12-05 12:59:17 PM
DRINK!

Oh, wait. I think I might have the wrong thread...
 
2012-12-05 01:14:31 PM
A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link
 
2012-12-05 01:24:01 PM

borg: A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link


Are you sure that's why they went out of business? I just looked up the Yelp reviews and there seems to be a mixture of good and bad.
 
2012-12-05 01:28:35 PM
Oh good, another person to tell us what we like. We really need that.
 
2012-12-05 01:28:41 PM
Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.
 
2012-12-05 01:29:15 PM

sweetmelissa31: borg: A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link

Are you sure that's why they went out of business? I just looked up the Yelp reviews and there seems to be a mixture of good and bad.


There have been news stories about it in the last few days. Yelp might be scrubbing the fake reviews.
 
2012-12-05 01:31:09 PM
Hey, don't knock the tapir anus until you've tried it. It is remarkable.
 
2012-12-05 01:33:35 PM
People are morons. Morons in very large groups tend to be more right than wrong about basic stuff like food.
 
2012-12-05 01:37:21 PM

Surly U. Jest: Hey, don't knock the tapir anus until you've tried it. It is remarkable.


Especially with oil, I suspect.
 
2012-12-05 01:38:10 PM
Professional critic in favor of his own job security. Film at 11.
 
2012-12-05 01:38:19 PM

Surly U. Jest: Hey, don't knock the tapir anus until you've tried it. It is remarkable.


And I am nuts for the raw Yak testicles. What Jewels they are.
 
2012-12-05 01:39:07 PM
Yelp is not helpful.
 
2012-12-05 01:40:20 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Yelp is not helpful.


It's helpful if you're traveling and looking for a nearby place to eat.

But review-wise. Yeah. Not so much.
 
2012-12-05 01:40:31 PM

Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.


That's a helluva couple of run-on sentences.
 
2012-12-05 01:41:05 PM
He's right, but that's the point of Yelp. Not everyone wants a review from a food critic.
 
2012-12-05 01:42:38 PM
Sites like Yelp and Tripadvisor are good if you know how to use them.

I tend to ignore 5 star and 1 star reviews and look at the 2 & 4s.

Then you see what people are complaining about. If several people have the same issue, then you may be on to something.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:22 PM
I find Yelp pretty useless.

When travelling, I'll use Urbanspoon to find places to dine and Google Maps results for "dive bar" to find places to drink. Haven't been steered wrong yet.
 
2012-12-05 01:46:27 PM

borg: A restaurant in San Francisco was CLAIMED IT WAS IN PART driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link


FTFY.

They were first time restaurant owners who took over a beloved local spot in the Castro. SF in general and neighborhoods like the Castro in particular are very difficult to survive in for restaurants. They're executive chef left in the first year, and the place didn't seem well-run.
 
2012-12-05 01:47:34 PM
Maybe Zimmerman is afraid that if enough people critique restaurants he'll lose his job with Travel. After all getting paid to travel all over the world tasting exotic food is quite the gig.
 
2012-12-05 01:49:27 PM

Snargi: Maybe ZimmermanZimmern is afraid that if enough people critique restaurants he'll lose his job with Travel. After all getting paid to travel all over the world tasting exotic food is quite the gig.


/I always read that as Zimmerman
 
2012-12-05 01:49:50 PM

Shostie: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Yelp is not helpful.

It's helpful if you're traveling and looking for a nearby place to eat.

But review-wise. Yeah. Not so much.


I'll buy that.
 
2012-12-05 01:51:09 PM

borg: A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link


wow, that just farking sucks.
 
2012-12-05 01:56:36 PM

Surly U. Jest: Hey, don't knock the tapir anus until you've tried it. It is remarkable.


Meh, I found it to be a little leathery.
 
2012-12-05 01:58:09 PM
I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.
 
2012-12-05 01:59:30 PM

Rapmaster2000: I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.


Usually here in Houston if you look at the Chinese restaurant reviews, there are always complaints that they serve their sodas single serving in a can, rather than a refillable fountain drink.
 
2012-12-05 01:59:37 PM
The fundamental problem with online reviews is that they're written by the type of people who write online reviews, i.e., crazy people.
 
2012-12-05 02:04:50 PM

Rapmaster2000: I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.


Okay, you've inspired me to find a local place that I love and adore and would recommend to anyone and find a horrible review...

Casita Taqueria

We recently moved from the Chicago area and were excited about going after reading a review in the newspaper. Boy, were we sorry. First, you're not sure if you get waited on or not. Not! You order your food and they bring to you (which is OK if you know that). We though we would authentic mexican food. NOT!!! The corn tortillas were very good, but the rest was not authentic. Black beans!! Where's the pinto beans and mexican rice and since when do you have to BUY chips and salsa (chips were good). Oh, and it was not inexpensive. Come on now, mexican food should be really inexpensive., DISAPPOINTED.

Go back to flyover country.
 
2012-12-05 02:08:04 PM

tricycleracer: Rapmaster2000: I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.

Okay, you've inspired me to find a local place that I love and adore and would recommend to anyone and find a horrible review...

Casita Taqueria

We recently moved from the Chicago area and were excited about going after reading a review in the newspaper. Boy, were we sorry. First, you're not sure if you get waited on or not. Not! You order your food and they bring to you (which is OK if you know that). We though we would authentic mexican food. NOT!!! The corn tortillas were very good, but the rest was not authentic. Black beans!! Where's the pinto beans and mexican rice and since when do you have to BUY chips and salsa (chips were good). Oh, and it was not inexpensive. Come on now, mexican food should be really inexpensive., DISAPPOINTED.

Go back to flyover country.


There is so much racism in that review, the "That's racist!" gif wouldn't do it justice.

/gonna go home and cook my really cheap pinto beans and pot of Mexican rice, because, you know, that's what all us goddamn Mexicans eat.
 
2012-12-05 02:10:18 PM

Snargi: Snargi: Maybe ZimmermanZimmern is afraid that if enough people critique restaurants he'll lose his job with Travel. After all getting paid to travel all over the world tasting exotic food is quite the gig.

/I always read that as Zimmerman


That's like Roger Ebert worrying about youtube comments.
 
2012-12-05 02:11:05 PM

FinFangFark: Rapmaster2000: I love Yelp reviews. At best, the complaints are incorrect expectations.

At worst, it's flat-out ignorance. My favorites so far are one complaining about an Ethiopian restaurant trying to trick people into eating with their hands, and another complained about the lack of frozen margaritas at a Belgian pub.

Usually here in Houston if you look at the Chinese restaurant reviews, there are always complaints that they serve their sodas single serving in a can, rather than a refillable fountain drink.


Given the nasties that can live in soda fountains they should count their blessings
 
2012-12-05 02:11:35 PM

Lucky LaRue: I tend to agree with Zimmerman on this one: The general public is too stupid to have an opinion on what kind of food and service they like when they go out to eat. The masses should let the experts tell them what they like.



On behalf of my people, I'll eat what I want...
 
2012-12-05 02:12:31 PM
"People who know less than me about X shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion"

I always ask those people if they have opinions on other subjects and then suggest they should STFU.
 
2012-12-05 02:14:04 PM

borg: A restaurant in San Francisco was driven out of business earlier this week because of fake/catty yelp reviews. Link


No, it wasn't.
 
2012-12-05 02:16:08 PM

Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.


I'd love to know when she called. I get better responses from restaurants if I call with feedback (good or bad) during not-slammed times.
 
2012-12-05 02:17:10 PM

tricycleracer: Okay, you've inspired me to find a local place that I love and adore and would recommend to anyone and find a horrible review...


Here's the deal: There are people in this world, a lot of people, who go out to eat for the express purpose of being disappointed. My own grandmother is like this. My grandmother has never had a positive dining experience in her entire life. I've literally never been out to eat with her when she didn't get upset about something, be it the temperature of the restaurant, the noise level, the server, the food...whatever.

The weird thing is, she's a wonderful, nice person. And I know other people who are the same way.

There is something about restaurants that trigger a kind of instinct in some people that forces them to be disappointed. A lot of these types of people write online reviews.
 
2012-12-05 02:20:09 PM

MugzyBrown: Sites like Yelp and Tripadvisor are good if you know how to use them.

I tend to ignore 5 star and 1 star reviews and look at the 2 & 4s.

Then you see what people are complaining about. If several people have the same issue, then you may be on to something.


This. Anything overly glowing and positive is a shill review most likely. Anything making a bunch of hay about minor things is most likely a single issues voter type person: a single thing wrong RUINS EVERYTHING. I usually take in all the reviews and look for repeat occurrences, especially from reviewers that have a loooong review history. This can also apply to Newegg reviews.
 
2012-12-05 02:22:04 PM
yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time
 
2012-12-05 02:24:45 PM

fustanella: Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.

I'd love to know when she called. I get better responses from restaurants if I call with feedback (good or bad) during not-slammed times.


Exactly. "I called at 7:30pm on a Friday night two days after the largest local employer's payday, and they seemed rushed and too busy to chat with me for 45 minutes. How rude, 1 star"
 
2012-12-05 02:25:21 PM

sigdiamond2000: There is something about restaurants that trigger a kind of instinct in some people that forces them to be disappointed. A lot of these types of people write online reviews.


I'm sure it's probably just the people I know, but for some reason, I've only had that experience around some females. Every man I know who had orders screwed up will say "close enough", eat the food and just not leave a tip or something. Most women I know go to extremes for how the food is to be prepared, a list of substitutions and then trying to get substitutions not on the list, if it's too hot or too cold it gets returned to the kitchen. I feel sorry for the waiters/waitresses most of the time after I see what they have to go through to make some people happy.
 
2012-12-05 02:25:24 PM

Treygreen13: Fark you, Yelper!

My favorite: "I ordered the broiled crab cakes and they were really good and i called and asked if i could speak to the supervisor and the girl that asnswerd the phone wanted to know what it was in reference to and I told her it was regarding the food i ordered and and she said what was wrong with it and i said nothing i just wanted to let him or her know that it was good and then she was like ok hold on. When the manager got on the phone and i thanked him and let him know it was good he said thank you and you welcome but seemed like he was in a rush. I don't think i will be eating their anymore because if the manager is not nice then what does that say about the business they are running and the people in it.
1-star review of Stratford Diner by Dalia B."

Any Yelp review you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Some people just can't write a review without focusing on one issue and giving out 1 star because of it.


Mrs Palin, go home. You are drunk, and this Sizzler has been here long before Yelp (and the internet).
 
2012-12-05 02:28:44 PM

pute kisses like a man: yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time


This I work in a sushi restaurant, we have a dollar night, it's all the end leftover, small cuts, and a cheaper grade of tuna; we pre roll maki and rice balls. It is the McDonald's equivalent of sushi. We regularly have a line around the building and people raving about how great it is. I know it's shiat, I made it, but people will constantly tell anyone who listen about how it's amazing and such a great price, like they were a freaking foodie dinning at a Michelin star restaurant. It helps my paycheck, but it's really discourage me in hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.
 
2012-12-05 02:30:41 PM

sigdiamond2000: Here's the deal: There are people in this world, a lot of people, who go out to eat for the express purpose of being disappointed.


You've got a point. In 68 years on this earth, my father has never had a steak cooked correctly. Gotta be the unluckiest guy ever.
 
2012-12-05 02:36:03 PM

pkellmey: sigdiamond2000: There is something about restaurants that trigger a kind of instinct in some people that forces them to be disappointed. A lot of these types of people write online reviews.

I'm sure it's probably just the people I know, but for some reason, I've only had that experience around some females. Every man I know who had orders screwed up will say "close enough", eat the food and just not leave a tip or something. Most women I know go to extremes for how the food is to be prepared, a list of substitutions and then trying to get substitutions not on the list, if it's too hot or too cold it gets returned to the kitchen.


People who feel powerless in life tend to exert as much power as they can in situations where they can get away with it.

It's the same reason homeless people walk so slow in front of cars at crosswalks.
 
2012-12-05 02:37:30 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats


Yelp is not helpful.


And help is not Yelpful.
 
2012-12-05 02:38:55 PM

tjsands1118


hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


You don't get to complain about anyone's palate until you learn how to spell 'palate'.
 
2012-12-05 02:40:48 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: tjsands1118

hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


You don't get to complain about anyone's palate until you learn how to spell 'palate'.


What a refined pallet may look like:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-05 02:56:12 PM

tjsands1118: pute kisses like a man: yelp: ensuring shiat restaurants get business... while helping to ensure no one eats anywhere nice.

/ i only use yelp by accident, when googling a restaurant to get an address/phone number/menu when the restaurant does not have a website.
// reading user comments may be the most unreliable source of information on earth. you get what you pay for... if you pick a restaurant based on yelp users, you might as well eat at applebee's
/// an example of how bad most people's tastes are: go to a fark food thread, pick anyone recipe at random. 9/10 it's campbell's soup and canned vegetables in a caserole and everyone's sucking each other's dicks over it. 
/// 1/10 of the time, some one actually provides something good. why i continue farking and maintaining hope for humanity... 1/10 of the time

This I work in a sushi restaurant, we have a dollar night, it's all the end leftover, small cuts, and a cheaper grade of tuna; we pre roll maki and rice balls. It is the McDonald's equivalent of sushi. We regularly have a line around the building and people raving about how great it is. I know it's shiat, I made it, but people will constantly tell anyone who listen about how it's amazing and such a great price, like they were a freaking foodie dinning at a Michelin star restaurant. It helps my paycheck, but it's really discourage me in hopes of our society ever having a refined pallet.


so you've probably got a better perspective on it.

I just grew up thinking my mom was the greatest chef on the planet. going out to eat was always a disappointment, even as an adult. then i moved to new orleans, and this is the first city I've ever lived in that has a few restaurants whose food is better than or at least comparable to my mom's cooking. or, they offer cuisine that my mom would never make (and it's blow out your brains awesome).

but, whenever I'm on vacation and try to find someplace to eat, the internet is almost invariably a bad source of information. i've had much better luck finding a really good bar and asking the bartenders where to eat. or even asking waiters at a restaurant where I should eat next.
 
2012-12-05 02:58:25 PM

Lucky LaRue: I tend to agree with Zimmerman on this one: The general public is too stupid to have an opinion on what kind of food and service they like when they go out to eat. The masses should let the experts tell them what they like.


And yet Zimmerman has spent many a column opining on economics, business, and other shiat he knows absolutely nothing about.

/the guy is an idiot and deserves no ones respect
 
Displayed 50 of 117 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report