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(WSBTV)   Atlanta airport makes three arrests in two hours upon discovering guns being brought through the security checkpoint - one of which belonged to a Chick-Fil-A executive   (wsbtv.com) divider line 254
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2012-12-05 03:15:53 PM
Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Corvus: Those are the rules of English. Am I saying everyone follows them or should? No. Unlike MANY PEDANTIC ASSHOLES I have no problem with people not following all English rules in informal discourse, but that does not change the rules for English.


There that feels better. I think some people really don't have much in their lives so pointing out grammar or spelling issues gives them a feeling of superiority that they need to make up for in their lives. Many people I know who are writers or English degree holders/teachers/professors don't give a shiat about informal communication like that.

Sure they care when it's FORMAL communication but that's different. But that something too deep for the Fark pedants to understand the difference. It actually shows their lack of understanding the English language. That their knowledge of English doesn't go beyond high school or maybe the lowest college English class.
 
2012-12-05 03:17:18 PM

mdeesnuts: Corvus: So then you and them are praising them for doing their job correctly this time?

lol^% Hell no^%

I don't think the TSA should exist^%


So? That has no bearing to my question. Or are you one of those people who think just because you don't like something mean your allowed to lie about them?
 
2012-12-05 03:17:33 PM

titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?


fight! fight! fight! fight!
 
2012-12-05 03:18:19 PM

mdeesnuts: My point is they may be mindful the firearm is on them, but the checkpoint is just an obstacle between them and the plane. They forget that the TSA is run, manned, and funded by incompetent over reactive morons.


What? The reason handguns are not permitted on airplanes isn't "because incompetence". Incompetence would be not catching them. You know what's another trait of responsible firearms owners? Knowledge of state and federal firearms laws.

There is no perspective by which these people are not being irresponsible by having guns in their carry-on luggage.
 
2012-12-05 03:19:18 PM

mat catastrophe: Why does a Chick-Fil-A exec own a security checkpoint at the Atlanta airport?


Get your eyes fixed. TFA mentions "the security checkpoint" singularly.
The use of "one of which" in this case clearly refers to ownership of one of the two hours, or one of the three arrests.

Because time is money, and the police are for sale, both meanings are equally plausible.
 
2012-12-05 03:19:34 PM

titwrench: Is this how you react to someone that isn't sure about something in real life? You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?


Not at all. It's how I react to people who are to lazy in life to check facts on their own. And question others about their facts without ever checking or themselves.

So you solution is through violence to see if someone is right or wrong? You believe beating people up because they do what you ask them to and show they were right?
 
2012-12-05 03:21:02 PM

Headso: titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

fight! fight! fight! fight!


"You gave me a citation (which I asked for) and showed me you were right (which I asked for) so I am going to threaten you!" (notice the "!" goes inside those quotes).

I thought people got banned for threats? Is that not the case anymore?
 
2012-12-05 03:24:35 PM

scottydoesntknow: No arrest, but I'm on a TSA "watch list"


You too? I flipped the bird at one of the little blueshirt goons.
 
2012-12-05 03:26:36 PM

flux: mdeesnuts: My point is they may be mindful the firearm is on them, but the checkpoint is just an obstacle between them and the plane. They forget that the TSA is run, manned, and funded by incompetent over reactive morons.

What? The reason handguns are not permitted on airplanes isn't "because incompetence". Incompetence would be not catching them. You know what's another trait of responsible firearms owners? Knowledge of state and federal firearms laws.

There is no perspective by which these people are not being irresponsible by having guns in their carry-on luggage.


THIS.

I disagree with how we do security in airports now. But the crazy attack on the TSA even when they are doing what they supposed to do makes people look crazy and foolish.

Also you could not have a gun in your carry on BEFORE post 9/11 TSA screening (at least the airports I went to)! So it's really idiotic.
 
2012-12-05 03:28:31 PM

clyph: scottydoesntknow: No arrest, but I'm on a TSA "watch list"

You too? I flipped the bird at one of the little blueshirt goons.


I am sorry why do people like you think TSA agents are the people who control the operation. It's like yelling at the cashier at McDonalds because you don't like their corporate policy. It really makes no sense.

You are aware airports in the USA that don't use TSA use the SAME exact screening process?
 
2012-12-05 03:29:03 PM
After being excoriated in the press for exercising a 1st Amendment right to both freely expressed opinions and the right to one's religious views ... Chic Fil A execs ought to be granted permission to travel in the middle of ...

ww1.hdnux.com
 
2012-12-05 03:30:44 PM

2wolves: ToxicMunkee: Okay, so tell me. What good is a gun in your bag if you FORGET it's in there? "I'm just trying to protect myself...with a gun I forgot I had!"

I have never forgotten where any of my firearms were. Maybe his mommy needs to take some of his toys away until he knows how to play nicely with them.


You can tell both of you ignorant bastards didn't even read the article AND are sexist since you automatically assume an executive is a man. Hint: It is a she.

farking liberals.
 
2012-12-05 03:30:47 PM

flux: mdeesnuts: My point is they may be mindful the firearm is on them, but the checkpoint is just an obstacle between them and the plane. They forget that the TSA is run, manned, and funded by incompetent over reactive morons.

What? The reason handguns are not permitted on airplanes isn't "because incompetence". Incompetence would be not catching them. You know what's another trait of responsible firearms owners? Knowledge of state and federal firearms laws.

There is no perspective by which these people are not being irresponsible by having guns in their carry-on luggage.


Wouldn't it only really be irresponsible if you allowed somebody else to access the carry-on luggage? Those recordings they play repeatedly are pretty clear on the dangers that can cause, so hopefully these guys didn't let that happen.
 
2012-12-05 03:32:45 PM

titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?


OK meet me at Chicano Park at 1am on Saturday. Yell "Spick!" loud repeatedly so I know who/where you are.

/snark
 
2012-12-05 03:33:02 PM

Sid_6.7: colinspooky: Can't believe this doesn't happen every 20 minutes at one US airport or another.........

A. Please, for the love of Christ, an ellipsis only has three periods, and is not an appropriate way to end a sentence, especially one at the end of the entirety of what you have written/a paragraph (such as it is). You might as well end your sentence with "^^^%%". It makes about as much sense grammatically.

B. The airport in TFA is the busiest in the world in terms of passenger traffic, and is located in Georgia, both certainly contributing to more guns being found on passengers compared to other airports.


In prose, an ellipsis can be used to end a sentence to indicate someone trailing off and dropping their thought. A good example would be a line from Star Wars: " I sense something. A presence I've not felt since..." As you can see, Vadar drops his thought, leaving it incomplete. Typically, this ellipsis functions like a period, having no space before it and one after it.

In technical writing, an ellipsis is used only to indicate elided words from a quote. Each dot must have a space between them and a space on either side unless followed by punctuation. It is permissible to use your font's ellipsis character instead. If an ellipsis is used to end a sentence, the final period must be there as well. 

Anyway, the original quoted text is badly formed. I just had to chime in to counter your assertion that ellipses cannot end sentences.
 
2012-12-05 03:33:09 PM
In other news. I missed the mass chick-Fil-A Baptist Convention eat-up the Tuesday after DragonCon ended. Many a chicken squawked in terror that day.
 
2012-12-05 03:34:38 PM
Haven't read the comments yet, but how can you not know a gun is in your luggage. I would understand if you said I can't remember if I put in my grey or black pants, but I can't remember if my gun, machette, or pot was in your bag.
 
2012-12-05 03:36:33 PM

Corvus: Headso: titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

fight! fight! fight! fight!

"You gave me a citation (which I asked for) and showed me you were right (which I asked for) so I am going to threaten you!" (notice the "!" goes inside those quotes).

I thought people got banned for threats? Is that not the case anymore?


So, to be clear, you DON'T want to meet this gentleman to further discuss the manner in which you address people unfamiliar to you.
 
2012-12-05 03:39:00 PM

Corvus: JackieRabbit: Corvus: titwrench: Corvus: Fancourt: Diogenes: Krieghund: Sid_6.7: A. Please, for the love of Christ, an ellipsis only has three periods

Of all the thing wrong on Fark, THIS is what you choose to biatch about?

You left out an "s" on "things."

You should keep quotes inside the punctuation on "things".

No you don't:

Rule 1

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.

Citation please.

Holy shiat, you can't use google?
Click here because you are too stupid to Google things for yourself, like titwrench.

Grammar's hard! There is one exception I know of to placing periods and commas inside quotation marks. This is in technical writing, especially about computer programming and administration. One doesn't want the punctuation to be included as part of an expression. Back in my day, we were taught that all punctuation went inside the quotation marks. Punctuation in English has been morphing for about 300 years now.

Those are the rules of English. Am I saying everyone follows them or should? No. Unlike MANY ASSHOLES I have no problem with people not following all English rules in informal discourse, but that does not change the rules for English.

Are quotation marks periods? I guess I am missing something about your point you are trying to make because periods was the issue being discussed.


Periods and quotation marks are both punctuation marks. My point is that, as you point out, the rules of English are what they are, without regard to a common vernacular's disregard of them. However, there are some instances when formal English is used, but some of the rules must be put aside. Computer technology is one of them. For example if in an email I type: You need to debug that with "set -x.", this may be constructed as use the command 'set -x.' instead of 'set -x'. I deliberately placed the comma following the conditional clause and the terminal period outside the quotes of the last sentence for this same reason.
 
2012-12-05 03:42:35 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Corvus: Headso: titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

fight! fight! fight! fight!

"You gave me a citation (which I asked for) and showed me you were right (which I asked for) so I am going to threaten you!" (notice the "!" goes inside those quotes).

I thought people got banned for threats? Is that not the case anymore?

So, to be clear, you DON'T want to meet this gentleman to further discuss the manner in which you address people unfamiliar to you.


Naw, look above I set a meeting location and method. I feel it's easy to have discourse of the matter over text.

If he feels however that his is incapable of proving a point only through discussion, I believe that shows that he is probably not a bright person. Not a person able to use discussion and logic and when shown wrong gets upset and tries to make himself feel superior through physical means.

Dude the guys is threatening me because I was right about a punctuation rule.

Talk about "Lighten up Francis!"

This is all I am going to say about the matter, because I don't want to theadshiat, unless someone brings the discussion back up.
 
2012-12-05 03:43:34 PM

ha-ha-guy: /I never carry guns, ammo, or gun accessories in the bags I use for travel


Exactly.

Here's what I think people aren't considering. We recently bought some decent quality luggage- Victorinox Werks Traveler 4.0 series. Not top shelf, but nothing to sneeze at. Dang sight better than American Tourister (cheap shiat that is... the $200 luggage sets aren't worth anything). The carry on bags run something like $280 right now. The bigger bags a bit more. So figure for one person, a $280 carry on and a $320 or so duffle or pullman will be all the luggage that person needs. That's right at $600 for two pieces of good quality luggage.

A criminal lawyer is likely to run at least $300 an hour. So even IF your farkup can be fixed within two hours (not bloody likely) and no other troubles beyond inconvenience at the airport (not a chance in hell), you're saving no money and still using shiat luggage. Better to spend the money for a separate set of travel luggage that never see guns placed inside of them. No chance of a forgotten handgun or rogue .22LR round stuck in there to get you in trouble.
 
2012-12-05 03:44:04 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Corvus: Headso: titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

fight! fight! fight! fight!

"You gave me a citation (which I asked for) and showed me you were right (which I asked for) so I am going to threaten you!" (notice the "!" goes inside those quotes).

I thought people got banned for threats? Is that not the case anymore?

So, to be clear, you DON'T want to meet this gentleman to further discuss the manner in which you address people unfamiliar to you.




My question is, are either of these guys the type to punch an airplane window when they can't sit next to their mom?
 
2012-12-05 03:46:35 PM

Evil Mackerel: kumanoki: Who "forgets" a firearm?

The same people who forget that they have a baby in the back seat in the summer time.


Oh fark I left the kid in the car ... man my wife is never gonna let me hear the end of it.
 
2012-12-05 03:46:41 PM

JackieRabbit: Periods and quotation marks are both punctuation marks. My point is that, as you point out, the rules of English are what they are, without regard to a common vernacular's disregard of them. However, there are some instances when formal English is used, but some of the rules must be put aside. Computer technology is one of them. For example if in an email I type: You need to debug that with "set -x.", this may be constructed as use the command 'set -x.' instead of 'set -x'. I deliberately placed the comma following the conditional clause and the terminal period outside the quotes of the last sentence for this same reason.


Yep. I agree. And that's what my whole point has been. I 100% agree and am a proponent that English rules should not always be followed. however, that was not the context of the discussion. We are in agreement.

Anyone who is looking at a document like you describe and complaining that it's not "proper English" is an idiot. Just like the people here on Fark that call out every spelling error or minor grammar error are too. But that still doesn't change the formal rules of English (which I agree are not always cut and dry).
 
2012-12-05 03:47:47 PM

Corvus: titwrench: Is this how you react to someone that isn't sure about something in real life? You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

Not at all. It's how I react to people who are to lazy in life to check facts on their own. And question others about their facts without ever checking or themselves.

So you solution is through violence to see if someone is right or wrong? You believe beating people up because they do what you ask them to and show they were right?


I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it, I simply called you out for being a shiat talker. If I were in front of you you would not speak to me that way.
 
2012-12-05 03:49:44 PM

Corvus: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Corvus: Headso: titwrench: You sir are a cock and according to your profile you are in my city. Would you care to meet so you can speak to me that way to my face?

fight! fight! fight! fight!

"You gave me a citation (which I asked for) and showed me you were right (which I asked for) so I am going to threaten you!" (notice the "!" goes inside those quotes).

I thought people got banned for threats? Is that not the case anymore?

So, to be clear, you DON'T want to meet this gentleman to further discuss the manner in which you address people unfamiliar to you.

Naw, look above I set a meeting location and method. I feel it's easy to have discourse of the matter over text.

If he feels however that his is incapable of proving a point only through discussion, I believe that shows that he is probably not a bright person. Not a person able to use discussion and logic and when shown wrong gets upset and tries to make himself feel superior through physical means.

Dude the guys is threatening me because I was right about a punctuation rule.

Talk about "Lighten up Francis!"

This is all I am going to say about the matter, because I don't want to theadshiat, unless someone brings the discussion back up.


I concede the issue. Punctuation inside quotes. Thank you.

/Holy crap!
 
2012-12-05 03:49:55 PM

akula: ha-ha-guy: /I never carry guns, ammo, or gun accessories in the bags I use for travel

Exactly.

Here's what I think people aren't considering. We recently bought some decent quality luggage- Victorinox Werks Traveler 4.0 series. Not top shelf, but nothing to sneeze at. Dang sight better than American Tourister (cheap shiat that is... the $200 luggage sets aren't worth anything). The carry on bags run something like $280 right now. The bigger bags a bit more. So figure for one person, a $280 carry on and a $320 or so duffle or pullman will be all the luggage that person needs. That's right at $600 for two pieces of good quality luggage.

A criminal lawyer is likely to run at least $300 an hour. So even IF your farkup can be fixed within two hours (not bloody likely) and no other troubles beyond inconvenience at the airport (not a chance in hell), you're saving no money and still using shiat luggage. Better to spend the money for a separate set of travel luggage that never see guns placed inside of them. No chance of a forgotten handgun or rogue .22LR round stuck in there to get you in trouble.



I did exactly that when I had a job in Georgia where I felt the need to carry. I had car luggage and airplane luggage.

/The threats that made me carry on that job were 4 legged in variety and mean as hell.
 
2012-12-05 03:50:53 PM

titwrench: I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it, I simply called you out for being a shiat talker. If I were in front of you you would not speak to me that way.


Why? I call people stupid in real life all the time when they are being stupid.

Now you called me names too. So why is that ok for you to do it?

Why is it my responsibly to educate you when you seem to believe it's too much work to do the minimal work to educate yourself about a subject?
 
2012-12-05 03:52:56 PM

titwrench: I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it,


Right, "say that to my face" is not normally considered to imply a threat? grow up.

You inferred it.
 
2012-12-05 03:54:12 PM

Fancourt: I concede the issue. Punctuation inside quotes. Thank you.


No problem. Glad you didn't threaten me because I disagreed with you.
 
2012-12-05 03:54:54 PM
I don't really buy the "I forgot it was in there" defense. I have a gun bag, and other bags I use for traveling. The two don't mix. Frankly, they're not even the same type - one's a bag, the other is luggage. My gun bag probably has enough powder residue to set off every alarm within 6 feet of it.

If the idiots really did forget they had a gun in luggage they are bringing to the airport then they probably aren't the type of people you want armed.
 
2012-12-05 03:55:51 PM

Explodo: The "I forgot it was there" defense should be an automatic license revoke for 1 year on the first offense and permanently after that along with making it illegal for you to even own one. If you're not careful enough with a gun to even know where it is you don't deserve to have it.


It is already. You lose your licence for life when you have a felony. Carrying a gun through the checkpoint is a felony.
 
2012-12-05 03:56:10 PM

Corvus: titwrench: I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it,

Right, "say that to my face" is not normally considered to imply a threat? grow up.

You inferred it.


If anything I implied it grammar dude.
 
2012-12-05 03:57:51 PM

titwrench: Corvus: titwrench: I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it,

Right, "say that to my face" is not normally considered to imply a threat? grow up.

You inferred it.

If anything I implied it grammar dude.


[citation please]

I am to lazy to look things up myself. Or does that only work for you?
 
2012-12-05 03:58:57 PM
Make Love,
Not Grammer.
 
2012-12-05 03:59:17 PM

Corvus: titwrench: Corvus: titwrench: I didn't threaten violence, you inferred it,

Right, "say that to my face" is not normally considered to imply a threat? grow up.

You inferred it.

If anything I implied it grammar dude.

[citation please]

I am to lazy to look things up myself. Or does that only work for you?


By the way, that was a joke. I know the difference.

I figure you might not get sarcasm.
 
2012-12-05 03:59:44 PM
Make Gandma,
Not Threats
 
2012-12-05 04:00:17 PM

Corvus: clyph: scottydoesntknow: No arrest, but I'm on a TSA "watch list"

You too? I flipped the bird at one of the little blueshirt goons.

I am sorry why do people like you think TSA agents are the people who control the operation. It's like yelling at the cashier at McDonalds because you don't like their corporate policy. It really makes no sense.

You are aware airports in the USA that don't use TSA use the SAME exact screening process?


While I don't personally bust TSA balls when I fly I don't mind people who do because their complaints and bad attitude makes its way up to the people managing the line staff. If everyone grins and bares it that never happens.
 
2012-12-05 04:00:53 PM
Learn Spell Check.
Not Grammer/Gramma
r
 
2012-12-05 04:02:33 PM
What's amusing is all the Fark Outrage Police all assumed it was a white man. You're supposed to be fighting against stereotyping, not furthering it.
 
2012-12-05 04:02:48 PM
I should have read through the comments Before posting. It looks like many people expressed nearly identical thoughts. So, I guess I'll just say: This.
 
2012-12-05 04:03:17 PM
Drew was just in Atlanta.
 
2012-12-05 04:03:20 PM
The only purpose the mention of chic-fil-a serves in this headline is to make it seem that everyone who works there is stupid; hence, they are dumb for hating teh gays. Classic Matt Drudge tactic. Niice.
 
2012-12-05 04:06:41 PM
It's ok, he had a permit:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 04:07:38 PM

Wook: I like how most of you Farkers hate this company. It's perpetual Christmas since their sales went through the roof during the boycott by Gays, Lesbos and Libs. Bonus points as well since this is a passé cause and you're all still exhibiting butthurt.


You might want to check your figures. I read an article that they received a one time bump and then resumed near normal sales a short time after the boycott.

Personally I don't eat there as I find their food disgusting, them and Culver's are the only two fast food places I will absolutely not eat at.
 
2012-12-05 04:07:44 PM

Devil's Playground: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Greek: Hmm... a religious fundamentalist attempting to take a gun on a plane. They are going to charge him with terrorism, right?

He's a white CEO. I'm surprised they haven't apologized profusely for interrupting his job creating.

Did anybody actually read the article, or is it just easier to assume it was a man?

FTA: It began Monday when agents said around 10:45 a.m. they discovered a .380 handgun in Sheryl Rexrode's carry-on as she went through security. The Chick-Fil-A executive was arrested.


My comments are sarcastic
 
2012-12-05 04:08:52 PM

Headso: While I don't personally bust TSA balls when I fly I don't mind people who do because their complaints and bad attitude makes its way up to the people managing the line staff. If everyone grins and bares it that never happens.


Thanks, for taking my question serious and answering in a real fashion. I often get something along the lines "You love the TSA and want nazis to take over the US!" kind of response in these threads when I ask something like that.

You really believe an agents experience (oh and like I said NON-TSA USA screener use the same screening methods) bubbles up to the top level who are government top level appointees and politicians who make the policy?

To me it seems contradictory to believe the TSA is one of the most disorganized inept organizations ever (not saying you said this but it's what others say) and also believe it has one of the best for funneling up agent experiences. Wouldn't that seem odd?

My belief is that people do these things against the TSA because it lets them feel like they accomplishing something, but really it does jack shiat. In fact worse it makes people less likely to want to work with you for a better solution.

What people I believe SHOULD be doing is coming up with a sane new system (like ones they use in Europe) to use to replace the system we have. But that won't happen from people flipping off TSA agents. You have to act like an adult make a plan and build consensus around that plan. That's actual real work.
 
2012-12-05 04:17:16 PM

Corvus: You really believe an agents experience (oh and like I said NON-TSA USA screener use the same screening methods) bubbles up to the top level who are government top level appointees and politicians who make the policy?


yes I believe dealing with employee morale is an issue important to high level managers. You could probably easily find mentions of it among people involved with the TSA.
 
2012-12-05 04:22:17 PM

Corvus: I am sorry why do people like you think TSA agents are the people who control the operation. It's like yelling at the cashier at McDonalds because you don't like their corporate policy. It really makes no sense.


In other words, they're only following orders.

Check your history and let me know how that's worked as a defense in the past.
 
2012-12-05 04:22:44 PM
That whole Chick-Fil-A thing is pretty significant.

So where did the other two work, subby? 'Cuz that's really important. Right?

/you're not helping
 
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