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(CBS Chicago)   Cubs' Dale Sveum accidentally shot by Robin Yount while hunting. He says the pain still pales in comparison to having to manage the Cubs day in and day out   (chicago.cbslocal.com) divider line 37
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2012-12-05 09:47:23 AM
Yount really, really wants to manage in the big leagues.
 
2012-12-05 09:50:23 AM
Hunting birds with buck shot? Please get the terminology straight.
 
2012-12-05 09:50:55 AM
I'm sorry, I thought you were a Cardinal.
 
2012-12-05 09:51:57 AM

KidSock2004: I'm sorry, I thought you were a Cardinal.


I got nothing after that.
 
2012-12-05 10:01:15 AM
Maybe he was trying to help put the Cubs out of their misery.
 
2012-12-05 10:02:04 AM

KidSock2004: I'm sorry, I thought you were a Cardinal.


Where they at Target field?
 
2012-12-05 10:24:20 AM
I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.
 
2012-12-05 10:39:01 AM

KidSock2004: I'm sorry, I thought you were a Cardinal.


You win. Damn it.
 
2012-12-05 10:40:53 AM

Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.


I'm sure they'll win the series next year because of these moves.
 
2012-12-05 10:47:31 AM

SlagginOff: Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.

I'm sure they'll win the series next year because of these moves.


Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.
 
2012-12-05 10:47:34 AM

ChrisDe: Yount really, really wants to manage in the big leagues.


He should, but only if he rides a motorcycle on the field.
 
2012-12-05 11:13:56 AM
That's a Dick move
 
2012-12-05 11:17:32 AM
He'd better apologize.
 
2012-12-05 11:36:58 AM

R.A.Danny: Hunting birds with buck shot? Please get the terminology straight.


Saw that, but the author has enough problems with then/than.

Truly awful reporting.
 
2012-12-05 11:46:13 AM

Orgasmatron138: SlagginOff: Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.

I'm sure they'll win the series next year because of these moves.

Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.


I get that the Pirates and the Astros are a running gag, but since 2002 the Central has sent 5* Wildcards to the playoffs against 4 from the West and 2* from the East.

*I counted the 2012 play-in game as 1 for the Central since STL won, but it could be argued that the East also gets another since it is a wildcard spot.

I know that in '06 and '07 the Central's division winner sucked, but I'm not sure it is the walk in the park that everyone like to tout.
 
2012-12-05 12:15:16 PM
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Pfft! Amateur... 
 
2012-12-05 12:15:44 PM

roc6783: Orgasmatron138: SlagginOff: Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.

I'm sure they'll win the series next year because of these moves.

Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.

I get that the Pirates and the Astros are a running gag, but since 2002 the Central has sent 5* Wildcards to the playoffs against 4 from the West and 2* from the East.

*I counted the 2012 play-in game as 1 for the Central since STL won, but it could be argued that the East also gets another since it is a wildcard spot.

I know that in '06 and '07 the Central's division winner sucked, but I'm not sure it is the walk in the park that everyone like to tout.


Doesn't the Central have 6 teams though (CHI-STL-PIT-CIN-HOU-MIL), compared to 4 in the NLE (ATL-MIA-NYM-PHI) and 5 in the NLW (SF-LAD-SD-COL-ARZ)? So the fact that they've sent more teams isn't really indicative - they should be sending more teams.

I don't care to work those numbers, but aren't they all expected values, statistically speaking?
 
2012-12-05 12:23:40 PM

Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.


That's pretty much what they did last year too...

Dr Dreidel:
Doesn't the Central have 6 teams though (CHI-STL-PIT-CIN-HOU-MIL), compared to 4 in the NLE (ATL-MIA-NYM-PHI) and 5 in the NLW (SF-LAD-SD-COL-ARZ)? So the fact that they've sent more teams isn't really indicative - they should be sending more teams.

I don't care to work those numbers, but aren't they all expected values, statistically speaking?


You forgot WAS in the East...

But the extra team isn't what causes the abnormal number of Central wild card teams. There hasn't been many dominant teams in the division so nobody is beating up everyone else. Then the Pirates generally suck and if someone else is having a bad year, it is even more wins for the decent teams. Adds up to a couple decent records and a wild card.
 
2012-12-05 12:24:24 PM

Dr Dreidel: Doesn't the Central have 6 teams though (CHI-STL-PIT-CIN-HOU-MIL), compared to 4 in the NLE (ATL-MIA-NYM-PHI) and 5 in the NLW (SF-LAD-SD-COL-ARZ)?


The National League East has five teams. You forgot about the Washington Nationals.

And Houston is going to the American League next year.
 
2012-12-05 12:26:26 PM
Since Yount played his entire career on the Brewers back when they were in the AL, wouldn't he say "I'm sorry, I thought I was shooting an Oriole" instead?
 
2012-12-05 12:29:46 PM

bacongood: Orgasmatron138: I was prepared to write the next two years off as looking like this last year, but it looks like the Cubs are going to do a lot of short-term contracts to field a better team as they get the new regime's draft picks filtered through the minors.

That's pretty much what they did last year too...

Dr Dreidel:
Doesn't the Central have 6 teams though (CHI-STL-PIT-CIN-HOU-MIL), compared to 4 in the NLE (ATL-MIA-NYM-PHI) and 5 in the NLW (SF-LAD-SD-COL-ARZ)? So the fact that they've sent more teams isn't really indicative - they should be sending more teams.

I don't care to work those numbers, but aren't they all expected values, statistically speaking?

You forgot WAS in the East...


And since I live in DC, I must now throw myself in front of the next Yellow/Green Line train (too soon?).

But the extra team isn't what causes the abnormal number of Central wild card teams. There hasn't been many dominant teams in the division so nobody is beating up everyone else. Then the Pirates generally suck and if someone else is having a bad year, it is even more wins for the decent teams. Adds up to a couple decent records and a wild card.

Well, I'm comparing to a "random winners" scenario. If the Central is really "better" or "worse" than the East or West, it'd be reflected in the anomalous number of teams they've sent to the postseason. Not having worked the statistics, I really don't know what the results are.

And Pfighting Polish, we're talking about the past here. What happens next year cannot have influenced the number of times the NLC sent a wildcard to the playoffs since 2002.
 
2012-12-05 12:44:03 PM

Dr Dreidel: roc6783: Orgasmatron138: SlagginOff: Orgasmatron138: ***snip***

I don't care to work those numbers, but aren't they all expected values, statistically speaking?


The Expos/Nationals are asking Why U NO LOVE THEM??

It is indicative in that if the division was so easy to win, then why does the #2 team have a better record more often than the #2 team in any other division. It would be one thing if they had a consistently crappy division winner, since someone has to win it, but that is clearly not the case.

Also, comparing division strength in baseball is stupid/goofy anyway due to unbalanced schedules.

//Like the recent year the Brewers played AT NYY and AT BOS, while the Cards got KC and the CWS at home.
 
2012-12-05 01:16:24 PM
Wow. I knew the Cubs and Brewers were rivals, but this is ridiculous.
 
2012-12-05 01:40:16 PM

Orgasmatron138: Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.


NL Central Standings, 2012:

Cincinnati 97-65
Saint Louis 88-74
Milwaukee 88-79
Pittsburgh 79-83
Chicago 61-101
Houston 55-107

How in the f*ck is that a winnable division? The Reds came close to a hundred wins. You've got a perenially good team in Saint Louis. Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton) and will likely improve. Pittsburgh is a solid .500 team on paper.
 
2012-12-05 01:58:57 PM

Cagey B: Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton)


This intrigues me; partly because I think it would be a kick to see Hamilton face his former teammates in the Reds, and also because who in their right mind would think Josh Hamilton should play for a city known for brewing beer?
 
2012-12-05 02:18:00 PM

EyeballKid: Cagey B: Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton)

This intrigues me; partly because I think it would be a kick to see Hamilton face his former teammates in the Reds, and also because who in their right mind would think Josh Hamilton should play for a city known for brewing beer?


I guess his "personal accountability consultant" or whatever the fark they call his babysitter is with Milwaukee now, so he'd have a decent shot at not having to wake up on the Bernie the Brewer slide covered in vomit.
 
2012-12-05 02:19:58 PM

Cagey B: Orgasmatron138: Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.

NL Central Standings, 2012:

Cincinnati 97-65
Saint Louis 88-74
Milwaukee 88-79
Pittsburgh 79-83
Chicago 61-101
Houston 55-107

How in the f*ck is that a winnable division? The Reds came close to a hundred wins. You've got a perenially good team in Saint Louis. Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton) and will likely improve. Pittsburgh is a solid .500 team on paper.


No one dominates the Central every year. It's not like the Yankees are in this division. Every team except Houston and Pittsburgh takes turns being kinda good for a while.
 
2012-12-05 02:22:10 PM

Cagey B: Orgasmatron138: Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.

NL Central Standings, 2012:

Cincinnati 97-65
Saint Louis 88-74
Milwaukee 88-79
Pittsburgh 79-83
Chicago 61-101
Houston 55-107

How in the f*ck is that a winnable division? The Reds came close to a hundred wins. You've got a perenially good team in Saint Louis. Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton) and will likely improve. Pittsburgh is a solid .500 team on paper.


Well, first of all, you disqualify Milwaukee for playing too many games.
 
2012-12-05 02:25:45 PM
Buckshot? I've never seen a quail larger than my fist.
 
2012-12-05 02:28:37 PM

Cagey B: EyeballKid: Cagey B: ***snip***


I really hope that the guys saying there is no chance Hamilton comes to the Brewers are right. They need pitching, badly.
 
2012-12-05 02:32:34 PM

bacongood: Well, first of all, you disqualify Milwaukee for playing too many games.


...shiat. Need more coffee.
 
2012-12-05 02:33:19 PM

Orgasmatron138: Every team except Houston and Pittsburgh takes turns being kinda good for a while.


The 2005 representative for the National League in the World Series Houston Astros? Or did you mean the NFL's Oilers, who haven't won a game since the 20th Century?

I realize they're total anus right now, but go back to 1995 and tell me how the Pats were doing. Or, go to 1988-1991 and tell me how many ALE division titles the Yankees won.
 
2012-12-05 02:48:39 PM

Dr Dreidel: Orgasmatron138: Every team except Houston and Pittsburgh takes turns being kinda good for a while.

The 2005 representative for the National League in the World Series Houston Astros? Or did you mean the NFL's Oilers, who haven't won a game since the 20th Century?

I realize they're total anus right now, but go back to 1995 and tell me how the Pats were doing. Or, go to 1988-1991 and tell me how many ALE division titles the Yankees won.


No I meant the more recent laughing stock Astros. Sorry, but they've been beyond bad.

Side question: is Jim Deshaies a good commentator? The Cubs picked him up for the booth.
 
2012-12-05 03:00:38 PM
To be fair, it was Younts first hit off the Cubs.
 
2012-12-06 12:51:21 AM

Cagey B: Orgasmatron138: Probably not, but the team should at least be competitive in a winnable division, which should keep attendance from falling any further.

NL Central Standings, 2012:

Cincinnati 97-65
Saint Louis 88-74
Milwaukee 88-79
Pittsburgh 79-83
Chicago 61-101
Houston 55-107

How in the f*ck is that a winnable division? The Reds came close to a hundred wins. You've got a perenially good team in Saint Louis. Milwaukee is looking to sign an impact free agent (rumored to be in on Josh Hamilton) and will likely improve. Pittsburgh is a solid .500 team on paper.


Weakest division in the weakest league, what with the Pirates and Cubs.
 
2012-12-06 09:59:28 AM
Sorry Dale having Yount shoot you will not get you out of coaching the Cubs next year.
 
2012-12-06 03:24:29 PM

Dr Dreidel: And Pfighting Polish, we're talking about the past here.


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