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2012-12-05 04:17:39 PM  

This text is now purple: Surool: jshine: This level of butt-hurt is like banning the Odyssey because "We're atheists and we don't believe in Zeus and Athena".

Would the school kids be bussed to a local temple of Zeus or Athena to study The Odyssey?

How about to Atlanta, the site of an Olympic Games?


Or how 'bout to Olympus Mons or the old Olympia beer brewery?
 
2012-12-05 04:20:25 PM  

chuckufarlie:
My school board answers to the people of the school district. That is the way that it works in this state and you would have to be incredibly stupid to say that I am wrong when you have no idea about what happens in my state,


Exactly how are they accountable to the people? Voting them out of office, impeachment?
 
2012-12-05 04:21:32 PM  

JeffDenver: Speaking as an Atheist; all other atheists need to STFU please. You're not as important as you think you are.


You capitalized atheist... interesting. Your silence is deafening.
 
2012-12-05 04:24:59 PM  
How about 'It's Ramadan, Charlie Brown!' Are you down with that haters?
 
2012-12-05 04:25:13 PM  
Right ... they should not point out violations of the constitution because you think it's rude??

LOL! "OMG someone is talking about religion in my presence, call the Police!"

Maybe it's time to grow a thicker skin princess.
 
2012-12-05 04:26:37 PM  

dj1s: How about 'It's Ramadan, Charlie Brown!' Are you down with that haters?


who are you talking to?
 
2012-12-05 04:29:39 PM  

dkoucky: This is cultural censorship! I am not a Christian, however we cannot censor culture. Many plays, books, paintings, sculptures, and other works of art have religious themes; does that mean they should not be seen? Should we stop teaching Algebra because it was created by a Muslim and pushed forward through Islam? Is a class allowed to see paintings by Da Vinci as many of them contain Christian themes? This is the same concept of censoring school libraries because you disagree with the moral principals of a book.


Let's start by having the kid's read Naked Lunch
 
2012-12-05 04:34:41 PM  

JohnnyC: Trivia Jockey: HotWingConspiracy:
I assume you were an atheist when you were in school? So you know how it goes for atheists who get outted to their fellow students?

For me it was the modified version of the pledge that outted me as an atheist to the more religious students. See... I didn't say that, "under god" part that the Knights of Columbus managed to get added to the pledge. I didn't agree with it, it didn't fit, and so when that part would come up, I simply wouldn't say those words. Someone noticed... one of the religious kids.

From that point on I was attacked, bullied, and persecuted by the religious kids in that school. It didn't really stop until I got into an entirely different school. Luckily at that school, they didn't make us say the pledge and nobody noticed that I wasn't "one of faithful."

If a kid got opted out of this... they would have faced more than just sitting and being bored while the other students went to church. You can pretend otherwise... but that just isn't how it goes..


Nope not an atheist and not religious, per se. and neither was anybody else in my school or town and I grew up in a small town. By that I mean, no one talked about it. It wasn't a topic of conversation or an issue. People would go to church on Sunday and that's about it. My town had about a half a dozen or so churches in a town of 5,000. Of course we didn't have any of the evangelical type churches. I had two good friends whose dads were reverends. I used to hang at their houses and there was never any talk of religion. 

Even though in my teens I rejected the church, my parents would make me go to at least Xmas eve mass. My friend also always had a party that night and they understood why I would be late.
 
2012-12-05 04:37:22 PM  

Surool: This text is now purple: Surool: jshine: This level of butt-hurt is like banning the Odyssey because "We're atheists and we don't believe in Zeus and Athena".

Would the school kids be bussed to a local temple of Zeus or Athena to study The Odyssey?

How about to Atlanta, the site of an Olympic Games?

Or how 'bout to Olympus Mons or the old Olympia beer brewery?


Or the Parthenon, which is an actual temple of Athena. Pricey field-trip, but very cool.
 
2012-12-05 04:38:06 PM  
Boo hoo, I was forced to say "under god" as a kid and it ruined my life forever. Outrage!
 
2012-12-05 04:38:21 PM  

JeffDenver: Right ... they should not point out violations of the constitution because you think it's rude??

LOL! "OMG someone is talking about religion in my presence, call the Police!"

Maybe it's time to grow a thicker skin princess.


Way to miss the point Sunshine. I have watched the Charlie Brown special and would not have an issue with letting a child of mine watch it (if I had any (and we'd probably have a laugh about how people actually believe that the magic stuff is real)).

The issue is with taking public school children to a church so they can attend an event created and hosted by a religious leader. At this point it doesn't matter what the content was (unless it was explicitly secular). It violates the separation of church and state. It alienates a percentage of the population.

As many have pointed out ... the priest backed down at the first sign of resistance. Obviously he is smarter than the bulk of the posters here and knew he was violating the law.
 
2012-12-05 04:40:49 PM  

JeffDenver: Right ... they should not point out violations of the constitution because you think it's rude??

LOL! "OMG someone is talking about religion in my presence, call the Police!"

Maybe it's time to grow a thicker skin princess.


You're trolling atheists? hmmmm
 
2012-12-05 04:41:07 PM  

JeffDenver: Boo hoo, I was forced to say "under god" as a kid and it ruined my life forever. Outrage!


If you want to troll, at least bring your "A" game.

I'm hoping this isn't it.
 
2012-12-05 04:41:16 PM  

jshine: doyner: Carving out a few hours from a public school day to take kids to a church to watch a story about how Linus and Charlie Brown are touched by the birth of Christ is clearly over the line.

[i.qkme.me image 355x400]

/there are rules


It's a league game, Smokey.
 
2012-12-05 04:41:44 PM  
I have the same reaction to this as I have to when overly religious parents get a book withdrawn from school curriculum (or stop a school play, film club, or whatever) because it's "inappropriate":

cincinnatiredlegs.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-05 04:44:16 PM  
Way to miss the point Sunshine

No, I think we all got the point. The point is "OMG Outrage!!1!!1!"

There is no butt hurt like atheist butt hurt.
 
2012-12-05 04:44:55 PM  

chuckufarlie: notdorothy: chuckufarlie: not in this state

Where the you know what do you live?

I still don't get though, it seems a public school is still a government agency, even if only a local one.

Maybe you should look into how it works where you live. "it seems" is hardly a position of authority.


Actually, I know exactly how my school district works, and I'm not too happy with it. That's why I am asking the questions about yours. It's interesting to me; finding out what may or may not be working in other places.

government: the political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens or inhabitants of a community; the governing body of persons in a state, community etc. ( from Websters)

So, yeah, schools are government agencies, even if only agencies of the local communities the are in.
 
2012-12-05 04:45:59 PM  
You're trolling atheists?

It doesn't seem to be that hard to do. Everything pisses off atheists.

Atheism is not a religion. Stop treating it like one.
 
2012-12-05 04:46:40 PM  
Worst of all, they were not being taught The True Meaning of Christmas (TM)

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2012-12-05 04:48:37 PM  

cybernia: Nope not an atheist and not religious, per se. and neither was anybody else in my school or town and I grew up in a small town.


Well... then perhaps next time before you declare "problem solved", you should make sure that you're not speaking from a position of ignorance. I'm not saying that you're dumb at all (ignorance isn't stupidity, just lack of exposure), only that you don't have a frame of reference and haven't experienced that side of it.

It may not have been an issue for you, but it has been for others.
 
2012-12-05 04:48:59 PM  

JeffDenver: Boo hoo, I was forced to say "under god" as a kid and it ruined my life forever. Outrage!


You keep posting this idiocy that people are claiming that they are being somehow damaged by the religious' violations of the constitution. Nobody claims this ... it is a strawmam ... a lie.

It is a well documented fact that both churches and governments fair better when there is complete separation. Since it is also the law, some people would like it enforced for the good of everyone.

/sorry christian taliban ... you do not get your theocracy. Everyone can see how well it works in the middle east and we do not want it in the west
 
2012-12-05 04:49:39 PM  

JeffDenver: There is no butt hurt like atheist butt hurt.


There are no better lairs than christian liars.
 
2012-12-05 04:51:41 PM  
It is a well documented fact that both churches and governments fair better when there is complete separation.

"The separation must be complete! Deploy the thought police! How dare you express a religious opinion in my presence!" LOL
 
2012-12-05 04:52:11 PM  

JeffDenver: You're trolling atheists?

It doesn't seem to be that hard to do. Everything pisses off atheists.

Atheism is not a religion. Stop treating it like one.


Uh huh... good luck with your trolling. Consider getting a new hobby. See ya.
 
2012-12-05 04:52:33 PM  

JeffDenver: Speaking as an Atheist; all other atheists need to STFU please. You're not as important as you think you are.


You sound concerned.
 
2012-12-05 04:53:33 PM  
There are no better lairs than christian liars.

I agree. So what? That doesn't make atheist butt hurt any less annoying, or their retarded demands any less obnoxious.
 
2012-12-05 05:00:04 PM  

JeffDenver: There are no better lairs than christian liars.

I agree. So what? That doesn't make atheist butt hurt any less annoying, or their retarded demands any less obnoxious.


Keeping religion out of public schools is retarded?

You're weird.
 
2012-12-05 05:00:50 PM  

dakwegmo: chuckufarlie:
My school board answers to the people of the school district. That is the way that it works in this state and you would have to be incredibly stupid to say that I am wrong when you have no idea about what happens in my state,

Exactly how are they accountable to the people? Voting them out of office, impeachment?


yes, and school board meetings.
 
2012-12-05 05:01:41 PM  

JeffDenver: You're trolling atheists?

It doesn't seem to be that hard to do. Everything pisses off atheists.

Atheism is not a religion. Stop treating it like one.


1) Learn how to quote people properly here. Your quoting style sucks

2) If that's the best trolling you've got, you're pretty pathetic
 
2012-12-05 05:04:00 PM  

sethen320: BronyMedic: hdhale: The cancellation came as the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers told television station KATV they had received legal advice on pursuing a possible lawsuit against the Little Rock School District.

The second most ironically named organization ever. The first and still the champion is the Committee of Public Safety, who during the French Revolution sent thousands of people to the guillotine.

If you are standing on your atheist soap box and refuse to allow a child to see "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown", it is my fondest hope that any children you have grow up to despise you, have you placed in a nursing home before your time because they decide you are "inconvenient", and that they be a bitter disappointment to you and refuse to visit you on Sundays because it's "church day".

/in other words, get the farking corn cob out of your ass...you should be so lucky to have kids that give a fark about people and put their friends before commercialism, whatever their belief in God, Jesus, or whatever holy spirit moves them

This has got to be the most pants-on-head retarded comment I've read on FARK. And that includes any link to American thinker.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x295]

[cdn.motinetwork.net image 336x358]

Really? Whole thread of people trying to argue others into their own world/religious view and THIS is the winner?

What kills me is the number of people here on BOTH sides that think they're going to convince someone to change their views. It's even funnier because once they see it's not working they give up and resort to outright insults...because that'll change their minds.

In arguments about Religion (or lack thereof) and politics...the only way to win is not to play.


I bet I can convince you within one post.
 
2012-12-05 05:04:24 PM  

SubjectVerb: Thanks, atheists! See y'all soon!

-Satan


and a very merry krampusnacht to you also.
 
2012-12-05 05:04:34 PM  
Keeping religion out of public schools is retarded?

Equating a cartoon with religion is even weirder. Atheists need to find more realistic stuff to be outraged about.
 
2012-12-05 05:05:43 PM  
 
2012-12-05 05:06:29 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: sethen320: BronyMedic: hdhale: The cancellation came as the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers told television station KATV they had received legal advice on pursuing a possible lawsuit against the Little Rock School District.

The second most ironically named organization ever. The first and still the champion is the Committee of Public Safety, who during the French Revolution sent thousands of people to the guillotine.

If you are standing on your atheist soap box and refuse to allow a child to see "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown", it is my fondest hope that any children you have grow up to despise you, have you placed in a nursing home before your time because they decide you are "inconvenient", and that they be a bitter disappointment to you and refuse to visit you on Sundays because it's "church day".

/in other words, get the farking corn cob out of your ass...you should be so lucky to have kids that give a fark about people and put their friends before commercialism, whatever their belief in God, Jesus, or whatever holy spirit moves them

This has got to be the most pants-on-head retarded comment I've read on FARK. And that includes any link to American thinker.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x295]

[cdn.motinetwork.net image 336x358]

Really? Whole thread of people trying to argue others into their own world/religious view and THIS is the winner?

What kills me is the number of people here on BOTH sides that think they're going to convince someone to change their views. It's even funnier because once they see it's not working they give up and resort to outright insults...because that'll change their minds.

In arguments about Religion (or lack thereof) and politics...the only way to win is not to play.

I bet I can convince you within one post.


Bet not. You wouldn't know which side to argue.
 
2012-12-05 05:08:34 PM  

Farking Canuck: HindiDiscoMonster: Farking Canuck: HindiDiscoMonster: I drunk what: BronyMedic:
[www.conservapedia.com image 350x241]

Just look at that Atheist drinking his coffee. It's so EVIL. 

lulz look at them drinkin' their cawfee, so cute

you have a larger version of that?

Why? So you perpetuate the stupidity that atheism can actually be the motivation for any act??

How about you show us the sections in the atheist magic books that encourage spreading atheism by the sword. Or any other form of atheist dogma that encourages killing infidels.

Religions have rules, guidelines, instructions, commandments ... all of which are manipulated by leaders to make religious people do stuff.

Atheism has none of these things. There is no way for the lack of belief in something to motivate actions.

This is just another lie from the religious people who are desperate to bring atheism down to the level of a religion.

wow, you went full retarded on me... dayum.... never go full retarded
the reason i wanted a larger version is my screen sucks... kind of hard to make things out on...

/calm down Francis... I didn't attack you.

If you are not one of the idiots that maintains that somehow atheism motivated the mass murders committed by dictators then I apologize. I would have responded to IDW's original post but he just talks in endless circles telling people what they believe so that would be useless.


nope... not one of those... power motivates people, and corrupts them... well... also money and sex as well.
 
2012-12-05 05:10:25 PM  

sethen320: HindiDiscoMonster: sethen320: BronyMedic: hdhale: The cancellation came as the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers told television station KATV they had received legal advice on pursuing a possible lawsuit against the Little Rock School District.

The second most ironically named organization ever. The first and still the champion is the Committee of Public Safety, who during the French Revolution sent thousands of people to the guillotine.

If you are standing on your atheist soap box and refuse to allow a child to see "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown", it is my fondest hope that any children you have grow up to despise you, have you placed in a nursing home before your time because they decide you are "inconvenient", and that they be a bitter disappointment to you and refuse to visit you on Sundays because it's "church day".

/in other words, get the farking corn cob out of your ass...you should be so lucky to have kids that give a fark about people and put their friends before commercialism, whatever their belief in God, Jesus, or whatever holy spirit moves them

This has got to be the most pants-on-head retarded comment I've read on FARK. And that includes any link to American thinker.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x295]

[cdn.motinetwork.net image 336x358]

Really? Whole thread of people trying to argue others into their own world/religious view and THIS is the winner?

What kills me is the number of people here on BOTH sides that think they're going to convince someone to change their views. It's even funnier because once they see it's not working they give up and resort to outright insults...because that'll change their minds.

In arguments about Religion (or lack thereof) and politics...the only way to win is not to play.

I bet I can convince you within one post.

Bet not. You wouldn't know which side to argue.


I always go with option C... this is Fark after all... and my argument trumps all others....

Behold... ther merits of Christmas:
www.redkabbage.com
/Pretty convincing, isn't it?
 
2012-12-05 05:12:09 PM  

The Ascent of Spam: This being fark, I was expecting the hero tag


i'm a bit surprised myself

the courage shown in this thread alone should justify it
 
2012-12-05 05:14:22 PM  
It seems like this issue would be so easy to understand if you just replace the religion being promoted with one you don't agree with. It is quite easy. Just picture that the article was about Islam (or fill in the blank with any other religion you don't agree with). What do you feel? What would be your response? If I'm not mistaken, all humans should be capable of thinking in this capacity.
 
2012-12-05 05:15:55 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: nope... not one of those... power motivates people, and corrupts them... well... also money and sex as well.


don't forget candy, bacon, and butthurt

since this is fark, i'm going to guess 'trolling for teh lulz'
 
2012-12-05 05:16:08 PM  

Elemental79: It seems like this issue would be so easy to understand if you just replace the religion being promoted with one you don't agree with. It is quite easy. Just picture that the article was about Islam (or fill in the blank with any other religion you don't agree with). What do you feel? What would be your response? If I'm not mistaken, all humans should be capable of thinking in this capacity.


the capacity exists, the willingness... not so much
 
2012-12-05 05:16:23 PM  
Jesus Christ, I hate when a thread goes into reruns. Everything's been said. Several farking times.
 
2012-12-05 05:16:51 PM  

Elemental79: It seems like this issue would be so easy to understand if you just replace the religion being promoted with one you don't agree with. It is quite easy. Just picture that the article was about Islam (or fill in the blank with any other religion you don't agree with). What do you feel? What would be your response? If I'm not mistaken, all humans should be capable of thinking in this capacity.


One would hope... but it isn't always so. Perhaps the problem is less the capability and more the willingness?
 
2012-12-05 05:16:52 PM  

I drunk what: HindiDiscoMonster: nope... not one of those... power motivates people, and corrupts them... well... also money and sex as well.

don't forget candy, bacon, and butthurt

since this is fark, i'm going to guess 'trolling for teh lulz'


damn... now i want bacon... thanks
 
2012-12-05 05:18:34 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ, I hate when a thread goes into reruns. Everything's been said. Several farking times.


oh i dunno... i think my argument just a couple of posts above is much more compelling. :)
 
2012-12-05 05:18:45 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ, I hate when a thread goes into reruns. Everything's been said. Several farking times.


They are the late comers, and they don't feel like reading the 800 posts that came before. So, they are starting all over. That's the fun part.

A whole new set of arguments.
Wheeeeeee!!!
 
2012-12-05 05:19:31 PM  
You know, if Mizzou shipped my ass to a "Reason Rally" for some purpose... I don't think I'd be pissed.
 
2012-12-05 05:20:50 PM  

suthrnrunt: Rincewind53: Via Infinito: [draftsauronpac.files.wordpress.com image 850x548]

/oblig

I really hate that, because the first part gets all of those old gods wrong, based off that stupid "Christianity is just a copy of old religions" image that's been circling the internet for a while.

Hercules was not a god.
There is no evidence that Horus was born anywhere near December 25th
Sol Invictus and Mithra are the same damn thing
Zeus wasn't born on December 25th
Mithra wasn't born on December 25th.

Literally every part of that list of gods "born" during Saturnalia is wrong.

and let's not forget that christian's didn't hijack this holiday. people that were FORCED into christianity merged the christian bleliefs into their own so they could still pay homage to their gods while tricking the priests that they were believers.


The winter/summer (delete whichever is appropriate) solstice is the 22nd... Where the days stop getting shorter, and the world is born anew..
 
2012-12-05 05:21:53 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: sethen320: HindiDiscoMonster: sethen320: BronyMedic: hdhale: The cancellation came as the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers told television station KATV they had received legal advice on pursuing a possible lawsuit against the Little Rock School District.

The second most ironically named organization ever. The first and still the champion is the Committee of Public Safety, who during the French Revolution sent thousands of people to the guillotine.

If you are standing on your atheist soap box and refuse to allow a child to see "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown", it is my fondest hope that any children you have grow up to despise you, have you placed in a nursing home before your time because they decide you are "inconvenient", and that they be a bitter disappointment to you and refuse to visit you on Sundays because it's "church day".

/in other words, get the farking corn cob out of your ass...you should be so lucky to have kids that give a fark about people and put their friends before commercialism, whatever their belief in God, Jesus, or whatever holy spirit moves them

This has got to be the most pants-on-head retarded comment I've read on FARK. And that includes any link to American thinker.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x295]

[cdn.motinetwork.net image 336x358]

Really? Whole thread of people trying to argue others into their own world/religious view and THIS is the winner?

What kills me is the number of people here on BOTH sides that think they're going to convince someone to change their views. It's even funnier because once they see it's not working they give up and resort to outright insults...because that'll change their minds.

In arguments about Religion (or lack thereof) and politics...the only way to win is not to play.

I bet I can convince you within one post.

Bet not. You wouldn't know which side to argue.

I always go with option C... this is Fark after all... and my argument trumps all others....

Behold... ther merits of Christmas:

/Pretty convincing, isn't it?


Nice pi.
 
2012-12-05 05:23:01 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ, I hate when a thread goes into reruns. Everything's been said. Several farking times.


......and this is why people hate atheists
 
2012-12-05 05:23:52 PM  

sethen320: [snip]In arguments about Religion (or lack thereof) and politics...the only way to win is not to play.

I bet I can convince you within one post.

Bet not. You wouldn't know which side to argue.

I always go with option C... this is Fark after all... and my argument trumps all others....

Behold... ther merits of Christmas:

/Pretty convincing, isn't it?

Nice pi.



Thank you
 
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