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2012-12-05 11:35:46 AM  

MBrady: Unless some of the parents are members of the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers, the parents weren't the ones protesting.


According to the article, a parent contacted the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers.
 
2012-12-05 11:35:51 AM  

Rincewind53: R.A.Danny: Rincewind53: Oh, so government sponsorship of a particular religion is okay as long as it's fun!

Down to about 4/10

I rate your attempt to classify me as a troll at about a 2/10.


Ill give you both 10/10 to shut up.
 
2012-12-05 11:35:59 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Marcintosh: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.

and this is why atheists hate religion - most adherents to any particular religion seem to be blissfully unaware that another view point exists and if they ARE aware the adherents are dismissive of that view point.

Think about the quandary of a muslim family might be in here - allow the kid to go and violate their religious feelings etc or deny their kid the trip and wonder if he'll be ostracized for it.

These two trivial points are just that - trivial points - there very well could be other far more important issues in play.

On the surface it seems harmless enough but it in fact introduces a complication into others lives that just doesn't need to be there and in fact shouldn't be there.

So yeah, cultural and religious ignorance sucks and in todays United States, shouldn't be there.

Plus, it's that crappy Chuck Brown schlock - I've had it up to here with that dead guys cartoons - bring back Prince Valium

I was raised Catholic. I no longer am, but that's beside the point. I was raised Catholic, and often was exposed to non-Catholic teachings, whether it was from visiting another faith's place of worship or learning about it in class. THAT'S THE POINT OF LEARNING. How can you claim to be devoutly religious, yet the mere exposure to someone else's faith can make you suddenly question your own? Attending a bar mitzvah when I wasn't Jewish didn't invalidate the fact that I was Catholic, and didn't "violate" anything that had to do with my Catholicism. I was learning about a tradition from another faith, and it was interesting.

Learning about other religions is not "state-sponsored indoctrination", nor should it be sneered upon as such.


You must not know what it's like to be a Muslim in a primarily christian area. Here: educate yourself (audio, 33 min, transcript available).

/Consider yourself fortunate to live in an area a little bit more tolerant than the norm.
 
2012-12-05 11:36:13 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I was raised Catholic. I no longer am, but that's beside the point. I was raised Catholic, and often was exposed to non-Catholic teachings, whether it was from visiting another faith's place of worship or learning about it in class. THAT'S THE POINT OF LEARNING.


Yes, we get it, you're incredibly smart and privileged and every experience you could possibly have is ultimately spinnable into some positive life-affirming wondrous examination of the self.

Over here in reality, uncomfortable shiat is often just uncomfortable. And Constitutionally disallowed shiat is still Constitutionally disallowed.
 
2012-12-05 11:36:35 AM  

Epicedion: "Militant" with respect to "atheist" is usually just an epithet used to encourage backpedaling and meekness. Which is funny, since apparently the meek get to inherit the Earth. At this point, "militant" is used to describe any atheist with a voiced opinion.


Threatening lawsuits isn't voicing an opinion.

/would be up for killing many people who file dumbass lawsuits of non-religious nature, too
 
2012-12-05 11:36:37 AM  

R.A.Danny: Rincewind53: R.A.Danny: Rincewind53: Oh, so government sponsorship of a particular religion is okay as long as it's fun!

Down to about 4/10

I rate your attempt to classify me as a troll at about a 2/10.

Perhaps you are genuinely wounded at the mere mention of Jesus. Mea culpa.


I believe the saying is "turn the other cheek".
 
2012-12-05 11:36:54 AM  
No more performances of A Christmas Carol either unless Tiny Tim's line famous line is struck from the production.

Jesus Christ Superstar? Do you even have to ask?
 
2012-12-05 11:36:55 AM  

mgshamster: Coco LaFemme: FloydA: doczoidberg:

And why isn't there just a word for someone who thinks the idea of a god is silly, but doesn't care to promote that thought to others? -- You know, like an apathetic atheist. An atheist who doesn't care what others do.

There should be a way to distinguish guys like me from those other jerks.

Apatheist

Hey, that's me too. I give not one rat's wet asshole about anyone else's religious beliefs, and I have no desire to try and change people's minds about what they believe. Just mind your own farking business.

For someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about what people believe and wishes them to just mind their own farking business, you sure do spend a lot of time trying convince them that they're wrong.


I don't spend any time trying to convince a Christian (or someone from any other faith) that they are wrong to be Christian, and as an atheist I am right. I have never done that once, either on Fark, or off it. I don't proselytize, nor do I have any desire to.
 
2012-12-05 11:36:58 AM  

Carn: FauxReal: Via Infinito: [draftsauronpac.files.wordpress.com image 850x548]

/oblig

I didn't make it and I'm not gonna try to shop it clean. But it fits what you posted, so here it is.
[i.imgur.com image 536x600]

I'm stealing this for facebook. I expect some outrage from bible thumper friends. Hopefully a few drop me.


Except a lot of those aren't true, as I've already made clear about Mithra.

Oh, and for the Mistletoe and the druidic thing, here's a Pliny quote about it (shamelessly stolen from Wiki)

"The druids - that is what they call their magicians - hold nothing more sacred than the mistletoe and a tree on which it is growing, provided it is Valonia Oak.... Mistletoe is rare and when found it is gathered with great ceremony, and particularly on the sixth day of the moon....Hailing the moon in a native word that means 'healing all things,' they prepare a ritual sacrifice and banquet beneath a tree and bring up two white bulls, whose horns are bound for the first time on this occasion. A priest arrayed in white vestments climbs the tree and, with a golden sickle, cuts down the mistletoe, which is caught in a white cloak. Then finally they kill the victims, praying to a god to render his gift propitious to those on whom he has bestowed it. They believe that mistletoe given in drink will impart fertility to any animal that is barren and that it is an antidote to all poisons"

Not really "kissing under the mistletoe", is it?
 
2012-12-05 11:37:08 AM  

Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people religious zealots hate atheists.

 
2012-12-05 11:37:13 AM  
Never make atheists mad, they have a power more hated than Satan himself. Lawyers.
 
2012-12-05 11:37:37 AM  

SilentStrider: Agnostic here.
A Charlie Brown Christmas is one of the few times where I get to feel like a kid at Christmastime. Given that I'm in my 30's, I cherish this. Because those moments are few and far between.
So if anyone has a problem with Charlie Brown, and my love of it, I say to you this: SCREW YOU.


Amen Damn skippy! I have watched it almost every year for as long as
I can remember. My youngest starts getting excited around the beginning of Noveber
because he knows it's going to be on in a few weeks. He did a program search almost
two weeks ago or more to make sure he had it set up to record. Same thing with the
Thanksgiving special and the Mayflower special.

The end of CBC still makes my eyes tear up to this day. I'm a sap that way.

[CSB time]

My youngest went as Charlie Brown for Halloween -- Charlie Brown from It's The Great
Pumpkin Charlie Brown. I grabbed a sheet, cut a bunch of holes in it and gave him a
candy bukkit that had a sign on it that said:

I am Charlie Brown. No rocks please.

He made out like a bandit this year :)

[/end CSB]
 
2012-12-05 11:37:38 AM  
The atheist f*cks are more annoying than the pastor of Westboro Baptist!

what a bunch of sand-in-the-vagina pussy f*cks.

I'm not Catholic but I don't shiat my pants every time I see the Pope on the news.

Atheists SHOULD have the most civic-minded, volunteering, charity-based values. After all, no higher power - all we got is each other.

Instead, they poop their panties over a cartoon that is over 47 years old. Instead, they're bigger dicks to their own (you know...people?), on a daily basis, than ANY other faith-based belief system (because oh yeah, atheism is faith-based).

Jeebus, are you atheist f*ckers too lazy to use the remote? Because there are a LOT of TV programs that are on at any one point in time. Or try something more mentally stimulating like...reading, or have a hobby other than biatching about the irrelevant and watching TV shows you hate... 

Just a little suggestion for those whose stick up their arse has a stick up its arse.
 
2012-12-05 11:37:40 AM  

Rincewind53: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.

Because they don't like children going to see school-sponsored plays in churches about the birth of Jesus?


If you don't want your athiest hell bound child to go then don't sign the consent form.
 
2012-12-05 11:37:42 AM  

Lollipop165: MBrady: Unless some of the parents are members of the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers, the parents weren't the ones protesting.

According to the article, a parent contacted the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers.


Which is certainly headquartered somewhere outside of Arkansas
 
2012-12-05 11:38:11 AM  

Coco LaFemme: mgshamster: Coco LaFemme: FloydA: doczoidberg:

And why isn't there just a word for someone who thinks the idea of a god is silly, but doesn't care to promote that thought to others? -- You know, like an apathetic atheist. An atheist who doesn't care what others do.

There should be a way to distinguish guys like me from those other jerks.

Apatheist

Hey, that's me too. I give not one rat's wet asshole about anyone else's religious beliefs, and I have no desire to try and change people's minds about what they believe. Just mind your own farking business.

For someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about what people believe and wishes them to just mind their own farking business, you sure do spend a lot of time trying convince them that they're wrong.

I don't spend any time trying to convince a Christian (or someone from any other faith) that they are wrong to be Christian, and as an atheist I am right. I have never done that once, either on Fark, or off it. I don't proselytize, nor do I have any desire to.


It wasn't the Christians to which I was referring.
 
2012-12-05 11:38:14 AM  

xanadian: Pertifly: xanadian: Someone forgot to tell these "freethinkers" that they do not have a Constitutional right to not be offended.

I'm an atheist and love the Charlie Brown holiday specials. I actually came in here to poo-poo the article, because Atheist outrage goes overboard sometimes (sometimes, a lot of the time).

But having a public school shuttle kids to a church to watch it... that's different than just watching it in the privacy of your own home. And it's illegal.

Valid, and I said so earlier, after I processed the whole article with my brain cell. Doesn't help that the very first paragraph says the group protested the PLAY and didn't mention that they were protesting the CHURCH for hosting the play. TFA initially said they just had a problem with the play.

Once again, though, this is FAUX NEWS, and they spin it to win it.




One of my favorite FOX moves was when they made all that noise about the "Ground Zero Mosque" being built near ground zero when there was already one within 4 blocks. Also the one being built was financed by Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... who happened to be the second largest News Corp. (FOX's parent company) stockholder.

The station has a collectively dim view of muslims so it wasn't necessarily ironic that they were hating on one of their biggest financiers who's family is close with their favorite Presidential dynasty that runs a deeply religiously conservative country that provides the 2nd most of our oil imports. 

But I thought it was funny.
 
2012-12-05 11:38:24 AM  

IAmRight: Threatening lawsuits isn't voicing an opinion.


I love how suing something for something they should be sued for has become somehow wrong.
 
2012-12-05 11:39:01 AM  

citoriman: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people religious zealots hate atheists.


Charlie Brown and his insidious plan to establish a theocracy. Will that little bastard stop at nothing?
 
2012-12-05 11:39:33 AM  
It's Fox News, so I will take this with a grain of salt.

I love Christmas, but anymore I feel like the only 20-something that does. I don't get all the hate surrounding Christmas, how people groan about it and see it as a chore.

This is my first Christmas were I'm not going home and my Hubby is a Christmas hater. I miss having someone to share my enthusiasm with. :(

/Farking love Christmas Specials
//I'll get down with any other solstice-based celebration as well, the more the merrier!
 
2012-12-05 11:39:43 AM  
Thorak

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2012-12-05 11:22:10 AM

kerryclendenon: Sounds like derp on all sides. The War on Christmas, and Fox's War on the War on Christmas. As long as all eyes are open and minds as well that this is a time of celebration of many cultures - pagans, Christians, Jews, etc, and all cultures are given equal weight in telling their stories, I am fine with it. I think the Atheist militance against traditions is annoying and makes me embarrassed to be an atheist. And Fox News's attempt at emphasizing their butt hurt over this is also embarrassing. Both sides need to chill out.

Separation of Church and State.

This is not a complicated or new issue. Those saying it's not a big deal and "atheists" should chill out are just completely missing the point; this has nothing to do with atheism, this has to do with the state sponsoring one faith over others. It's a constitutional breach. There's an issue here, but that issue is this; why do these Christians hate the Constitution and thus America?

A: I do not see this as an underwriting of a particular religion, or as an establishment of a national religion, because a local school, run but a local authority, decided to take kids who voluntarily agreed to go, to a play, where one of the actors accurately quotes a book, in describing the reason for the very holiday that a certain group of people follow. Christmas is a holiday that celebrates the birth of Jesus, a character in a series of religious stories.

B: there is nothing of the bigger picture in this article that I saw. Was this a social studies field trip? A look at culture? Was an overt ploy to wash kids in the blood of christ? Were there other opportunities to see Native American re-enactments of religious ceremonies? Who knows? This is not a reason to get your panties in a bundle.

When the derpy Christian right wants to overturn national law because some little tribe of people - surrounded by people who hated them - said it was bad - that's something to get mad about. Arguing over a school, run by a locality, transporting volunteers to a play, is going way overboard.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:15 AM  
Jon Stewart covered the Faux Nuze "War on Christmas" quite nicely.

Link
 
2012-12-05 11:40:27 AM  

WhippingBoy: So we live in a society where grown men watching "My Little Pony" should be celebrated


No, we don't. Brony-ism is stupid.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:31 AM  

R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: I hope and pray that your hearts are turned back to the Lord. It isn't too late.

Sorry. I signed Satan's exclusivity deal.

So you DO believe?


You're brilliant. I will use that one in the future.

Damn atheists, acting like their nonbelief is a religion. I know some atheists that are more evangelical than any Christians I know. "None of the above" does not get equal representation.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:34 AM  
Many "atheists" are really just anti-Christian religious bigots. Calling yourself an "atheist" just makes it sound better.

Their entire goal is not being comfortable in their own beliefs but to cause as much angst as possible for those they disagree with.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:35 AM  

sethen320: Rincewind53: R.A.Danny: Rincewind53: Oh, so government sponsorship of a particular religion is okay as long as it's fun!

Down to about 4/10

I rate your attempt to classify me as a troll at about a 2/10.

Ill give you both 10/10 to shut up.


-threeve/10
 
2012-12-05 11:40:45 AM  
My how things have changed. When I was in elementary school, that was our school play. It was pretty good, too.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:49 AM  

Gentoolive: minoridiot: Aren't field trips optional?

Yes, but this is textbook libtard atheist. If they don't like something, they must make sure NOONE else can make their own decissions.


Fark off with the politics.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:52 AM  

FauxReal: xanadian: Pertifly: xanadian: Someone forgot to tell these "freethinkers" that they do not have a Constitutional right to not be offended.

I'm an atheist and love the Charlie Brown holiday specials. I actually came in here to poo-poo the article, because Atheist outrage goes overboard sometimes (sometimes, a lot of the time).

But having a public school shuttle kids to a church to watch it... that's different than just watching it in the privacy of your own home. And it's illegal.

Valid, and I said so earlier, after I processed the whole article with my brain cell. Doesn't help that the very first paragraph says the group protested the PLAY and didn't mention that they were protesting the CHURCH for hosting the play. TFA initially said they just had a problem with the play.

Once again, though, this is FAUX NEWS, and they spin it to win it.



One of my favorite FOX moves was when they made all that noise about the "Ground Zero Mosque" being built near ground zero when there was already one within 4 blocks. Also the one being built was financed by Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... who happened to be the second largest News Corp. (FOX's parent company) stockholder.

The station has a collectively dim view of muslims so it wasn't necessarily ironic that they were hating on one of their biggest financiers who's family is close with their favorite Presidential dynasty that runs a deeply religiously conservative country that provides the 2nd most of our oil imports. 

But I thought it was funny.


There's a reason they never said the name of the financial backer of the mosque on their program.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:54 AM  

Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.


The important thing here is to lump all atheists in with the extreme ones. You know, just like all religious people want to jihad themselves with a vest full of dynamite.
 
2012-12-05 11:41:01 AM  

doczoidberg: I'm an atheist, and this shiat annoys the hell out of me.
Why do atheists have to act like such a-holes?

And why isn't there just a word for someone who thinks the idea of a god is silly, but doesn't care to promote that thought to others? -- You know, like an apathetic atheist. An atheist who doesn't care what others do.

There should be a way to distinguish guys like me from those other jerks.


Thank you! Me too!
 
2012-12-05 11:41:08 AM  

shortymac: It's Fox News, so I will take this with a grain of salt.

I love Christmas, but anymore I feel like the only 20-something that does. I don't get all the hate surrounding Christmas, how people groan about it and see it as a chore.

This is my first Christmas were I'm not going home and my Hubby is a Christmas hater. I miss having someone to share my enthusiasm with. :(

/Farking love Christmas Specials
//I'll get down with any other solstice-based celebration as well, the more the merrier!


let the boy watch part of Rudolph last night for the first time. I haven't seen it in years. It's really weird. He was mesmerized though.
 
2012-12-05 11:41:10 AM  

jaybeezey: Rincewind53: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.

Because they don't like children going to see school-sponsored plays in churches about the birth of Jesus?

If you don't want your athiest hell bound child to go then don't sign the consent form.


Yeahno. If the school wanted to take children to see Billy Graham give a sermon at a megachurch, they can't just claim it's voluntary. Doesn't work that way.
 
2012-12-05 11:41:17 AM  
I don't entirely agree with the complaint in question, but seriously guys, if this is the worst oppression "Militant Atheists" are capable of, I'm less than terrorized.
 
2012-12-05 11:41:33 AM  

Gentoolive: minoridiot: Aren't field trips optional?

Yes, but this is textbook libtard atheist. If they don't like something, they must make sure NOONE else can make their own decissions.


Your lack of proper spelling gives you away as an uneducated hick, and the fundie approach seals the deal. Go beat your Bible over in the Middle East where the rest of the bigots, moral police, and religious nuts live.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:17 AM  

mgshamster: Coco LaFemme: Marcintosh: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.

and this is why atheists hate religion - most adherents to any particular religion seem to be blissfully unaware that another view point exists and if they ARE aware the adherents are dismissive of that view point.

Think about the quandary of a muslim family might be in here - allow the kid to go and violate their religious feelings etc or deny their kid the trip and wonder if he'll be ostracized for it.

These two trivial points are just that - trivial points - there very well could be other far more important issues in play.

On the surface it seems harmless enough but it in fact introduces a complication into others lives that just doesn't need to be there and in fact shouldn't be there.

So yeah, cultural and religious ignorance sucks and in todays United States, shouldn't be there.

Plus, it's that crappy Chuck Brown schlock - I've had it up to here with that dead guys cartoons - bring back Prince Valium

I was raised Catholic. I no longer am, but that's beside the point. I was raised Catholic, and often was exposed to non-Catholic teachings, whether it was from visiting another faith's place of worship or learning about it in class. THAT'S THE POINT OF LEARNING. How can you claim to be devoutly religious, yet the mere exposure to someone else's faith can make you suddenly question your own? Attending a bar mitzvah when I wasn't Jewish didn't invalidate the fact that I was Catholic, and didn't "violate" anything that had to do with my Catholicism. I was learning about a tradition from another faith, and it was interesting.

Learning about other religions is not "state-sponsored indoctrination", nor should it be sneered upon as such.

You must not know what it's like to be a Muslim in a primarily christian area. Here: educate yourself (audio, 33 min, transcript available).

/Consider yourself fortunate to live in an area a little bit more tolerant than the norm.


I don't live in a tolerant area. Where I live and where I grew up are not the same thing. I grew up in Chicago, IL and currently live in Redneckville, NC. And no, seeing as I was a Catholic and now are not, I don't know what it's like to be Muslim. Or any other faith. I do however, know what it was like for my friends growing up who were not Christians, and they had a rough road. Not because of their specific faith, but just because they weren't Christians. It's ugly and unnecessary, and not a quality about some people in this country I like.

Epicedion: Coco LaFemme: I was raised Catholic. I no longer am, but that's beside the point. I was raised Catholic, and often was exposed to non-Catholic teachings, whether it was from visiting another faith's place of worship or learning about it in class. THAT'S THE POINT OF LEARNING.

Yes, we get it, you're incredibly smart and privileged and every experience you could possibly have is ultimately spinnable into some positive life-affirming wondrous examination of the self.

Over here in reality, uncomfortable shiat is often just uncomfortable. And Constitutionally disallowed shiat is still Constitutionally disallowed.


I'm not incredibly smart or privileged. The last thing I am is privileged. My parents would get a kick out of that one.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:20 AM  

probesport: And so this is Christmas?


What have we done?
 
2012-12-05 11:42:22 AM  

FauxReal: But I thought it was funny.


Nobody said those at Fox News was bright...

/love your handle, btw
 
2012-12-05 11:42:49 AM  

Rincewind53: though why the Romans would think that the sun had a birthday is not entirely clear.


They liked to drink wine out of cups containing a shiatload of lead.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:53 AM  
Most atheists enjoy this alongside Christians. It's this new cult of atheism, that ridicule, mock and make everyone else think their controlling, oppressive arseholes. Old school atheists are cool because they don't give a crap. They like what they like but the cult of whine...I mean atheism are a bunch of whiners.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:54 AM  

xanadian: sethen320: Rincewind53: R.A.Danny: Rincewind53: Oh, so government sponsorship of a particular religion is okay as long as it's fun!

Down to about 4/10

I rate your attempt to classify me as a troll at about a 2/10.

Ill give you both 10/10 to shut up.

-threeve/10


5/0

Oh shi...,
 
2012-12-05 11:43:15 AM  
Ok, this thread was fun. Now, I have to rush off to cook my Hanukkah ham. I'm f*cking hungry.
 
2012-12-05 11:43:26 AM  

DaCaptain19: The atheist f*cks are more annoying than the pastor of Westboro Baptist!


I don't believe you.
 
2012-12-05 11:44:18 AM  

Rincewind53: Coco LaFemme: ......and this is why people hate atheists.

Because they don't like children going to see school-sponsored plays in churches about the birth of Jesus?


Notice the "outrage" is coming from the Christian right? No "outrage" from atheists. Just a request. It's the "you MUST allow us to indoctrinate your kids" people who are "outraged"...
 
2012-12-05 11:44:24 AM  

Hickory-smoked: I don't entirely agree with the complaint in question, but seriously guys, if this is the worst oppression "Militant Atheists" are capable of, I'm less than terrorized.


True. Militant atheists have the worst defense budget.
 
2012-12-05 11:44:24 AM  

Mugato: Why can't they just go to a performance of Die Hard? That's an awesome Christmas movie that doesn't offend anyone. Except maybe Germans. But fark them.



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Mommy! They killed Santa!
 
2012-12-05 11:44:27 AM  

BronyMedic: Lets try this again. A Charlie Brown Kwanzaa (NSFW)


That's ... wow... :) But why is the Swedish Chef singing the intro?

/ Bork bork...bork?
 
2012-12-05 11:44:37 AM  
Again, the very same people championing this silly play at the local church would set themselves on fire in outrage, if the play had to do with a non-christian belief system.

This is all about pushing a particular belief system with the local government's approval. And it's not right, even if the religion in question is the dominant one in this country.
 
2012-12-05 11:45:15 AM  
All I want is what I... I have coming to me. All I want is my fair share
s10.postimage.org 

\bunch of Sallies in this thread.
 
2012-12-05 11:45:23 AM  

MilesTeg: Many "atheists" are really just anti-Christian religious bigots. Calling yourself an "atheist" just makes it sound better.

Their entire goal is not being comfortable in their own beliefs but to cause as much angst as possible for those they disagree with.


"Many". Sure, yeah, you should go with that.
 
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