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2012-12-05 02:35:43 PM

The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Pitbulls" actually make good babysitters, so long as they weren't trained as fighting dogs.

Can't change diapers, though.

I'm usually the first guy to jump in and defend pitbulls, but this time... no. Friendly dogs are usually fine with toddlers, but babies are another story entirely. Babies are wet crying pink things that smell funny and can freak dogs out. And quite possibly, dogs seem to get resentful as babies are competitors for affection (but this is anthropomorphising dogs too much) .

Terriers specifically seem to have a bad history with babies.

Don't leave a dog alone with a baby alone. Just don't.

 
2012-12-05 02:38:28 PM

SkunkWerks: Snarfangel: Being raised by wolves is *so* 4th century BC.

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Whilst being babysat by a pit bull actually isn't very far out of vogue.


My stepdaughter has a 2 year old, and god he loves our two pit bulls. Before he started talking he barked. He loves nothing more than spending hour upon hour running around naked in the back yard with the two dogs, barking, drinking out of the dog dish.

At thanksgiving, as I was putting away the leftovers, all three of them were sitting on the floor begging me for treats.

Hm. I thought this was all pretty cute, but now that I am reading back what I wrote I am thinking maybe a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.
 
2012-12-05 02:39:22 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Pitbulls" actually make good babysitters, so long as they weren't trained as fighting dogs.

Can't change diapers, though.

I'm usually the first guy to jump in and defend pitbulls, but this time... no. Friendly dogs are usually fine with toddlers, but babies are another story entirely. Babies are wet crying pink things that smell funny and can freak dogs out. And quite possibly, dogs seem to get resentful as babies are competitors for affection (but this is anthropomorphising dogs too much) .

Terriers specifically seem to have a bad history with babies.

Don't leave a dog alone with a baby. Just don't.

Why are you talking about terriers and other dog breeds? Just so you can be right about something?


Why are you insisting that dogs should be left alone with babies? That's the more ridiculous thing being argued here. I mean, seriously, you just said pitbulls make good babysitters. That can't change diapers. Or call poison control. Or feed babies. Or do literally anything a babysitter should do except protect the child from actual physical assault.
 
2012-12-05 02:42:52 PM

Misconduc: So the kid wasn't mauled to death? thats first time I heard a pitbull not doing so.


No, no, no. It's been proven that Pitt Bulls only maul children %20 of the time they are left alone with them.
 
2012-12-05 02:43:07 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why are you talking about terriers and other dog breeds? Just so you can be right about something?


I don't know what you mean. Terriers probably have the worst reputation around babies, but that seems appropriate to mention since the American Staffordshire Pit Bull Terrier is a terrier. Granted, it's not a Jack Russel or Westie or some other breed with a reputation for eating baby fingers, but I still wouldn't leave a Pit Bull alone with a baby.
 
2012-12-05 02:45:14 PM
The correct answer:

"Hey Mike, it's James.

"Yeah, babysitting.

"No, I can't. No, you come over here, bring some beer. XBox, come on. Well... invite her, too.

"Cool, see you in 20."
 
2012-12-05 02:45:22 PM

The Larch: Granted, it's not a Jack Russel or Westie or some other breed with a reputation for eating baby fingers,


Hey now, it isn't their fault baby fingers look like Snausages.
 
2012-12-05 02:47:43 PM

gilgigamesh: My stepdaughter has a 2 year old, and god he loves our two pit bulls. Before he started talking he barked. He loves nothing more than spending hour upon hour running around naked in the back yard with the two dogs, barking, drinking out of the dog dish.

At thanksgiving, as I was putting away the leftovers, all three of them were sitting on the floor begging me for treats.

Hm. I thought this was all pretty cute, but now that I am reading back what I wrote I am thinking maybe a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.


Might I refer you to the Dog Girl of Ukraine?
 
2012-12-05 02:49:08 PM

cgraves67: What kind of a woman leaves that kind of a man in charge of that kind of a dog in charge of that kind of a baby?


When my wife worked in a domestic violence shelter, she heard or read in a professional article that "the most dangerous person in a child's life is a paramour." Momma's boyfriend, new husband, whatever has no inherent love for her child and no forged-from-birth bond with it to teach him how to react. A whole lot of sexual and physical abuse/neglect cases arise from that situation.

Like this one, for instance!
 
2012-12-05 02:49:33 PM

gilgigamesh: Hm. I thought this was all pretty cute, but now that I am reading back what I wrote I am thinking maybe a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.


My nephew did the same thing at that age. In the entire family there were 6 dogs over for holiday dinners and what not, but we'd joke about the 7 dogs.

He grew out of it; I think he mainly did it to begin with because it would make us laugh. He's a bit of a clown...
 
2012-12-05 02:51:33 PM

The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why are you talking about terriers and other dog breeds? Just so you can be right about something?

I don't know what you mean. Terriers probably have the worst reputation around babies, but that seems appropriate to mention since the American Staffordshire Pit Bull Terrier is a terrier. Granted, it's not a Jack Russel or Westie or some other breed with a reputation for eating baby fingers, but I still wouldn't leave a Pit Bull alone with a baby.


And because I don't think I made it very clear, Jack Russel Terriers and West Highland White Terriers are both breeds notorious for being very, very bad when left alone babies. I wouldn't leave a dog alone with a baby in general, and I certainly wouldn't leave a terrier alone with a baby -- not even an American Staffordshire PIt Bull Terrier.

Assuming the dog is friendly overall, once a kids starts to toddle around the worse thing you'll probably have to worry about is the kid falling on the dog and getting "corrected" with a nip or two. But that's not true with babies. Dogs can act strange around babies; it's a stupid chance to take.
 
2012-12-05 02:51:48 PM

offmymeds: factoryconnection: I have to assume that since we're reading this the dog's name was not "Carl." Of course, Carl was a Rottweiler but the media does run fast and loose with all scary-looking dog breeds.

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/R.I.P my love
 
2012-12-05 02:52:24 PM
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Hey, at least he didn't leave it with a dingo
 
2012-12-05 02:54:43 PM

Nuuu: Smeggy Smurf: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Pitbulls" actually make good babysitters, so long as they weren't trained as fighting dogs.

Can't change diapers, though.

They weren't called Nanny Dogs 100 years ago for nothing

They weren't called nanny dogs 100 years ago, period. That phrase was coined in the 1970s by pitbull advocates attempting to increase the legitimacy of the breed so that it would be recognized by the American Kennel Club, which it then was. People eventually came to assume that the term was as old as the breed, and the myth became self-perpetuating. One hundred years ago, pitbulls were known for one thing: their ruthless killing ability in the dog fighting pit. It's the only reason the breed exists in the first place.


The pitbull name covers a number of breeds, most of which were reared as hunting, work, and family dogs.
Making one into a fighter requires that it has the right temperament. Since dogfighting has been banned in the US for over a century, no legitimate breeder selects for that quality.
Instead, many pitbulls end up being destroyed by their criminal owners in the process of selecting and training antisocial dogs.

Raised normally, they aren't any more dangerous than other terriers.
 
2012-12-05 03:01:00 PM

way south: Raised normally, they aren't any more dangerous than other terriers.


Terriers are evil little dogs that force me to nap with them on Saturday afternoons when I should be doing work around the house.
 
2012-12-05 03:03:31 PM
now wait a second, didn't Buster Brown shoe ads often feature a pitbull-looking dog along with a foppish kid? If they were such horrible dogs back in the day, why use them in your advertisement?
 
2012-12-05 03:05:10 PM
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cgraves67: What kind of a woman leaves that kind of a man in charge of that kind of a dog in charge of that kind of a baby?

 

That kind.
 
2012-12-05 03:08:54 PM

BronyMedic: Maybe that baby will look good on top of her piano?

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Cremated dog shiat is just going too far, man. You should be ashamed.
 
2012-12-05 03:18:59 PM
First thing I thought of:

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/I know, Rottweiler vs Pit Bull, but the sentiment's the same
 
2012-12-05 03:21:01 PM
Dogs are way more responsible and trustworthy that people are, so I'm fine with this.
 
2012-12-05 03:37:30 PM
Pit bulls make lousy guard dogs. If you can break their breeding to get them to bite one person, then they will bite anybody. They were bred as big game hunting dogs, before being used for sport in blood rings against other animals. That doesn't change that they are inherently passive towards humans from their breeding for the purposes of big game hunting.
 
2012-12-05 03:38:07 PM

The Larch: The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why are you talking about terriers and other dog breeds? Just so you can be right about something?

I don't know what you mean. Terriers probably have the worst reputation around babies, but that seems appropriate to mention since the American Staffordshire Pit Bull Terrier is a terrier. Granted, it's not a Jack Russel or Westie or some other breed with a reputation for eating baby fingers, but I still wouldn't leave a Pit Bull alone with a baby.

And because I don't think I made it very clear, Jack Russel Terriers and West Highland White Terriers are both breeds notorious for being very, very bad when left alone babies. I wouldn't leave a dog alone with a baby in general, and I certainly wouldn't leave a terrier alone with a baby -- not even an American Staffordshire PIt Bull Terrier.

Assuming the dog is friendly overall, once a kids starts to toddle around the worse thing you'll probably have to worry about is the kid falling on the dog and getting "corrected" with a nip or two. But that's not true with babies. Dogs can act strange around babies; it's a stupid chance to take.


CSB: When I was a baby, I rolled over into vomit in the middle of the night...the dog woke my parents up because it apparently sensed I was struggling to breath. Probably saved my life. Once I could walk, my mom has told me that whenever she couldn't find me she'd know to look in the closet because the dog and I would be in there with a box of Cheerios. 1 for me, 1 for Leeba. 2 for me, 2 for Leeba. Good doggy.

That obviously doesn't prove or disprove your point. I was in a crib at the time. Just thought I'd share.
 
2012-12-05 03:39:49 PM

BronyMedic: danielscissorhands: Not available for comment...

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Maybe her and this girl can be friends?

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I hear they both like to play in trunks.


Unbelievable that they never caught her killer.
 
2012-12-05 03:40:38 PM

way south: Nuuu: Smeggy Smurf: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Pitbulls" actually make good babysitters, so long as they weren't trained as fighting dogs.

Can't change diapers, though.

They weren't called Nanny Dogs 100 years ago for nothing

They weren't called nanny dogs 100 years ago, period. That phrase was coined in the 1970s by pitbull advocates attempting to increase the legitimacy of the breed so that it would be recognized by the American Kennel Club, which it then was. People eventually came to assume that the term was as old as the breed, and the myth became self-perpetuating. One hundred years ago, pitbulls were known for one thing: their ruthless killing ability in the dog fighting pit. It's the only reason the breed exists in the first place.

The pitbull name covers a number of breeds, most of which were reared as hunting, work, and family dogs.
Making one into a fighter requires that it has the right temperament. Since dogfighting has been banned in the US for over a century, no legitimate breeder selects for that quality.
Instead, many pitbulls end up being destroyed by their criminal owners in the process of selecting and training antisocial dogs.

Raised normally, they aren't any more dangerous than other terriers.


You could argue that pitbulls don't bite more often than other terriers but that's different than saying they aren't more dangerous. Pitbulls were first bred because dog fighters in the 19th century began to notice that their larger, more powerful bulldogs were sometimes losing out to smaller terriers. The fight breeders traced this abnormal skill to the terrier's speed, their gameness, i.e, their instinctive willingness to stay in a fight long past the point other dogs would have surrendered or run, and their uniquely destructive hold-and-shake bite instinct. They decided to cross breed terriers with stronger, more powerful bulldogs to create something with more killing power and skill than either breed alone. So sure, while a fox terrier might have the same gameness, same speed and same bite technique as a pitbull, you just can't say that the fox terrier is just as dangerous a beast with three times its mass and muscle power.

What's more, I assure you most world breed standards select for fighting traits in pitbulls, like they always have. Pitbulls have to have lean but strong bodies, well balanced for agility but with an emphasis on a powerful front end. They have to demonstrate loyalty, yes, but they also have to show apparent fearlessness and should not appear threatened by anything. These traits make for good fighting dogs, and you can't separate them from the pitbull and still have a pitbull.

And while pitbulls were often used as non-fighting dogs even in the 19th century, that's not why they were bred. German shepherds were bred to herd sheep and cattle, but that doesn't mean they also couldn't be used as family dogs or hunting dogs. It doesn't change the fact that the german shepherd was designed to shepherd, and the pitbull was designed to fight in the pit.
 
2012-12-05 03:46:38 PM
My dog is getting a kick out of these replies....

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2012-12-05 03:58:03 PM
How did I know this was going to turn into a pit bull thread despite the fact that the dude's defense was "the baby wasn't alone; the dog was there."

COME ON
 
2012-12-05 04:00:26 PM

KJUW89: /I know, Rottweiler vs Pit Bull, but the sentiment's the same


I dunno. That one Rotty was pretty good at babysitting and protecting Damian Thorn.
 
2012-12-05 04:09:43 PM

Ardilla: My dog is getting a kick out of these replies....

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Obviously a menace. Hopefully you were pointing your machine gun at it right?

/why is it that pit bulls are evil killers but guns, hey man they're just a tool!
 
2012-12-05 04:10:50 PM

Nuuu: the pitbull was designed to fight in the pit.


The origins are debatable.
One version I've heard has Pitt (with two t's) as a place in England and the bull standing for bull baiting, which predates dog fighting and was banned earlier. The strength of its bite and its tenacity are useful for its role as a hunting or butchers dog.

Dog fighting requires anti-social behavior and, as a rule, dogs want to be social. Exactly what traits dog breeders look for is often a secret, but we're a long time removed from when they wanted a dog that didn't work well with others.

Since the official pitt bull is about twenty pounds heavier than what you'll find in the US, I'd say this breed left its time in the arena many ages ago.
 
2012-12-05 04:15:49 PM
B*itch didn't have to have him arrested.
 
2012-12-05 05:13:47 PM
Someone who owns a pit bull also tends to:

1. Buy twenty lottery tickets each week.
2. Have a tattoo on their hands or neck.
3. Pursue futile workman's comp claims.
4. Take photographs of babies holding beer cans.
5. Prominently display an electric guitar in the living room.
6. Have a shaven head.
7. Rent the television for £7 weekly.
8. Travel to a different county specifically to buy fireworks
9. Wear t-shirts featuring profanity.
10. Have at least two stepchildren, each with a different surname.
 
2012-12-05 05:35:52 PM
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And I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
 
2012-12-05 05:45:04 PM

WTFDYW: [www.wesh.com image 615x460]

And I still haven't found what I'm looking for.


Is he wearing one of those barber capes?
 
2012-12-05 06:09:42 PM

CapeFearCadaver: WTFDYW: [www.wesh.com image 615x460]

And I still haven't found what I'm looking for.

Is he wearing one of those barber capes?


Well for only $3.70 each, how could you not afford to go out in one
 
2012-12-05 07:41:14 PM

LL316: CSB: When I was a baby, I rolled over into vomit in the middle of the night...the dog woke my parents up because it apparently sensed I was struggling to breath. Probably saved my life. Once I could walk, my mom has told me that whenever she couldn't find me she'd know to look in the closet because the dog and I would be in there with a box of Cheerios. 1 for me, 1 for Leeba. 2 for me, 2 for Leeba. Good doggy.

That obviously doesn't prove or disprove your point. I was in a crib at the time. Just thought I'd share.


That actually is a CSB.
 
2012-12-05 07:54:09 PM

LL316: The Larch: The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why are you talking about terriers and other dog breeds? Just so you can be right about something?

I don't know what you mean. Terriers probably have the worst reputation around babies, but that seems appropriate to mention since the American Staffordshire Pit Bull Terrier is a terrier. Granted, it's not a Jack Russel or Westie or some other breed with a reputation for eating baby fingers, but I still wouldn't leave a Pit Bull alone with a baby.

And because I don't think I made it very clear, Jack Russel Terriers and West Highland White Terriers are both breeds notorious for being very, very bad when left alone babies. I wouldn't leave a dog alone with a baby in general, and I certainly wouldn't leave a terrier alone with a baby -- not even an American Staffordshire PIt Bull Terrier.

Assuming the dog is friendly overall, once a kids starts to toddle around the worse thing you'll probably have to worry about is the kid falling on the dog and getting "corrected" with a nip or two. But that's not true with babies. Dogs can act strange around babies; it's a stupid chance to take.

CSB: When I was a baby, I rolled over into vomit in the middle of the night...the dog woke my parents up because it apparently sensed I was struggling to breath. Probably saved my life. Once I could walk, my mom has told me that whenever she couldn't find me she'd know to look in the closet because the dog and I would be in there with a box of Cheerios. 1 for me, 1 for Leeba. 2 for me, 2 for Leeba. Good doggy.

That obviously doesn't prove or disprove your point. I was in a crib at the time. Just thought I'd share.


That is a very CSB. Thank you for sharing that.
 
2012-12-05 08:02:00 PM

gilgigamesh: SkunkWerks: Snarfangel: Being raised by wolves is *so* 4th century BC.

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Whilst being babysat by a pit bull actually isn't very far out of vogue.

My stepdaughter has a 2 year old, and god he loves our two pit bulls. Before he started talking he barked. He loves nothing more than spending hour upon hour running around naked in the back yard with the two dogs, barking, drinking out of the dog dish.

At thanksgiving, as I was putting away the leftovers, all three of them were sitting on the floor begging me for treats.

Hm. I thought this was all pretty cute, but now that I am reading back what I wrote I am thinking maybe a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.


That's pretty normal with kids & dogs.

Some breeds are renowned for their ability to handle the weird noises, smells, and such a baby-- a human puppy-- brings into the house. Others will tolerate babies climbing on them because, well, it's a baby, and that's what babies do.

Friends of ours raise miniature Poodles. When they brought their new baby boy home, three of them promptly jumped into the crib and they took turns caring for him. Until the kid was 3 he thought he was a Poodle.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:24 PM

Khazar-Khum: Friends of ours raise miniature Poodles. When they brought their new baby boy home, three of them promptly jumped into the crib and they took turns caring for him. Until the kid was 3 he thought he was a Poodle.


Baby... in a poodle pile. I would pay good money to subscribe to a webcam of that.
 
2012-12-05 09:08:10 PM

WTFDYW: [www.wesh.com image 615x460]

And I still haven't found what I'm looking for.


and what are you looking for?
 
2012-12-05 11:47:29 PM

The Larch: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Pitbulls" actually make good babysitters, so long as they weren't trained as fighting dogs.

Can't change diapers, though.

I'm usually the first guy to jump in and defend pitbulls, but this time... no. Friendly dogs are usually fine with toddlers, but babies are another story entirely. Babies are wet crying pink things that smell funny and can freak dogs out. And quite possibly, dogs seem to get resentful as babies are competitors for affection (but this is anthropomorphising dogs too much) .

Terriers specifically seem to have a bad history with babies.

Don't leave a dog alone with a baby. Just don't.


This seems to be more about the people that want these dogs than the dogs themselves. Do pieces of shiat own laberdoodles? Sure, but they prefer pit bulls.
 
2012-12-05 11:56:59 PM
I guess the dog was to insure no one stole the baby, or he would've left the dog in the room with the baby. If pit bulls are such tough god-damn watchdogs, why do they get stolen so often?
 
2012-12-06 12:05:11 AM

Carn: Ardilla: My dog is getting a kick out of these replies....

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Obviously a menace. Hopefully you were pointing your machine gun at it right?

/why is it that pit bulls are evil killers but guns, hey man they're just a tool!


Serious? Fark it, i'm not busy. Guns can be buried in the farking ground with a little bit o' oil and and a plastic bag, indefinitely. This is because it is an inanimate object, it has no brain, no flesh, no ambition, no feelings and no ability to perform any function without physical input. Shiatty mutt (i personally prefer mutts) will bite somebody whether you want it to or not.
 
2012-12-06 12:07:41 AM

Micanope: I guess the dog was to insure no one stole the baby, or he would've left the dog in the room with the baby. If pit bulls are such tough god-damn watchdogs, why do they get stolen so often?


Because no dog is a match for a full grown human intent on its capture. We can capture tigers too.
 
2012-12-06 12:31:52 AM

Snarfangel: Being raised by wolves is *so* 4th century BC.


They didn't say the name and there weren't twins, So the question is what happened to Remus?
 
2012-12-06 01:04:42 AM

Micanope: I guess the dog was to insure no one stole the baby, or he would've left the dog in the room with the baby. If pit bulls are such tough god-damn watchdogs, why do they get stolen so often?


I was under the impression that pit bulls are often stolen to be used as, unfortunately, bait dogs...
 
2012-12-06 03:41:48 AM

Canton: Micanope: I guess the dog was to insure no one stole the baby, or he would've left the dog in the room with the baby. If pit bulls are such tough god-damn watchdogs, why do they get stolen so often?

I was under the impression that pit bulls are often stolen to be used as, unfortunately, bait dogs...


I suppose if they're training a county champion. Otherwise, your 12 year old black lab will do just fine. We aren't really talking about humans here, just shiat that looks human, like Micheal Vick.
 
2012-12-06 09:45:02 AM

thisisarepeat: Canton: Micanope: I guess the dog was to insure no one stole the baby, or he would've left the dog in the room with the baby. If pit bulls are such tough god-damn watchdogs, why do they get stolen so often?

I was under the impression that pit bulls are often stolen to be used as, unfortunately, bait dogs...

I suppose if they're training a county champion. Otherwise, your 12 year old black lab will do just fine. We aren't really talking about humans here, just shiat that looks human, like Micheal Vick.


shiat that looks human isn't going to be logical, though. The pits-in-training wouldn't care whether they were attacking your... Oh man, did you have to pick that? My family has a 12-year-old black lab mix. He does not have a mean bone in his body, although in his energetic youth he might have been capable of knocking down a kid by accident. To my knowledge he never did, but I can imagine. He's kind of a klutz.

But, uh, where were we. Oh yeah, logic. The fighting pit wouldn't care what other dog it was going after, but the humanoid turd might care about appearances. Which would go back to the machismo thing and, thus, a pit or pit-looking dog.
 
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