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2012-12-06 08:01:31 PM  

Rent Party: umad:

Who the fark cares about a warranty when you can build a completely new machine with the difference you are saving in costs? And if you need their technical support then you have no business telling somebody else that they aren't tech savvy. My tech support is right here and it is free. You tards act like computers are magic or something. Jesus Christ.

No, we act like computers are tools. I know how they farking work. They aren't mysterious, they're ordinary.

Your average 12 year old can put together a PC, and often times they do. Why you think it's so special is a continual source of amazement, but what it really does is tell me how much you *don't* know.


What the fark are you talking about? You're the idiot who is willing to pay double the cost of something because you are too scared to use it without a warranty and tech support. I never claimed they are special. Like you said, a 12 year old can do it. Why would you pay somebody else a shiatload to do it then? Are you dumber than a 12 year old?

Besides, I didn't even start this build it vs buy mac argument. All I said was that buying a computer from Dell for more money is not the same thing as building one for much much less money. Now piss off.
 
2012-12-06 08:08:06 PM  

umad: Rent Party: umad:

Who the fark cares about a warranty when you can build a completely new machine with the difference you are saving in costs? And if you need their technical support then you have no business telling somebody else that they aren't tech savvy. My tech support is right here and it is free. You tards act like computers are magic or something. Jesus Christ.

No, we act like computers are tools. I know how they farking work. They aren't mysterious, they're ordinary.

Your average 12 year old can put together a PC, and often times they do. Why you think it's so special is a continual source of amazement, but what it really does is tell me how much you *don't* know.

What the fark are you talking about? You're the idiot who is willing to pay double the cost of something because you are too scared to use it without a warranty and tech support. I never claimed they are special. Like you said, a 12 year old can do it. Why would you pay somebody else a shiatload to do it then? Are you dumber than a 12 year old?


Because my time is evidently more valuable than yours. I don't build my own hammers and drills, either. Computers are tools I use to do something else. Why you would waste time building something you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb.

Don't you have better things to do with your time?
 
2012-12-06 08:08:29 PM  

Rent Party: Does NewEgg sell a la carte warranties and technical support


Why, yes, they do.
 
2012-12-06 08:11:58 PM  

Rent Party: umad: Rent Party: umad:

Who the fark cares about a warranty when you can build a completely new machine with the difference you are saving in costs? And if you need their technical support then you have no business telling somebody else that they aren't tech savvy. My tech support is right here and it is free. You tards act like computers are magic or something. Jesus Christ.

No, we act like computers are tools. I know how they farking work. They aren't mysterious, they're ordinary.

Your average 12 year old can put together a PC, and often times they do. Why you think it's so special is a continual source of amazement, but what it really does is tell me how much you *don't* know.

What the fark are you talking about? You're the idiot who is willing to pay double the cost of something because you are too scared to use it without a warranty and tech support. I never claimed they are special. Like you said, a 12 year old can do it. Why would you pay somebody else a shiatload to do it then? Are you dumber than a 12 year old?


Because my time is evidently more valuable than yours. I don't build my own hammers and drills, either. Computers are tools I use to do something else. Why you would waste time building something you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb.

Don't you have better things to do with your time?


It takes me a half hour to build a computer. Another half hour to install the OS. If that saves you $1500 or hell, let's be conservative and make it $1000 then you just made $1000 an hour. I doubt you make that much at your job. I "waste" my time because I'm not an idiot.
 
2012-12-06 08:14:45 PM  

Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.


FTFY
 
2012-12-06 08:14:57 PM  

umad:
It takes me a half hour to build a computer. Another half hour to install the OS. If that saves you $1500 or hell, let's be conservative and make it $1000 then you just made $1000 an hour. I doubt you make that much at your job. I "waste" my time because I'm not an idiot.


It takes you half an hour to go buy all the bits and pieces, unpack them, and bolt them together?

You're either really fast, or completely full of shiat.
 
2012-12-06 08:16:19 PM  

Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY


And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.
 
2012-12-06 08:19:11 PM  

Rent Party: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY

And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.


I pity you.
 
2012-12-06 08:19:28 PM  

Rent Party: umad:
It takes me a half hour to build a computer. Another half hour to install the OS. If that saves you $1500 or hell, let's be conservative and make it $1000 then you just made $1000 an hour. I doubt you make that much at your job. I "waste" my time because I'm not an idiot.

It takes you half an hour to go buy all the bits and pieces, unpack them, and bolt them together?

You're either really fast, or completely full of shiat.


I spend a couple of minutes on newegg and then wait for all of the shiat to show up to my house. Then yes, it takes about an hour to build. I probably don't spend any more time shopping for my parts than you would to spec out your Mac. You don't know what the fark you are talking about. You sound awfully ignorant for someone who claims to "know how they work."
 
2012-12-06 08:21:49 PM  

Teufelaffe:
And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.

I pity you.


And why would that be? Because you know so little about technology that you think bolting a PC together makes you smart? Because you've accomplished so little in your life that doing what a 12 year old can do is a measure of accomplishment?

You're dumb, and that's your own fault. No pity for self inflicted wounds.
 
2012-12-06 08:23:23 PM  

umad: Rent Party: umad:
It takes me a half hour to build a computer. Another half hour to install the OS. If that saves you $1500 or hell, let's be conservative and make it $1000 then you just made $1000 an hour. I doubt you make that much at your job. I "waste" my time because I'm not an idiot.

It takes you half an hour to go buy all the bits and pieces, unpack them, and bolt them together?

You're either really fast, or completely full of shiat.

I spend a couple of minutes on newegg and then wait for all of the shiat to show up to my house. Then yes, it takes about an hour to build. I probably don't spend any more time shopping for my parts than you would to spec out your Mac. You don't know what the fark you are talking about. You sound awfully ignorant for someone who claims to "know how they work."


Oh I see, so the couple of days you have to wait doesn't count. I can have a new Mac running about 20 minutes after I decide I want one.

You sound exactly like a guy that thinks screwing one together means he knows how they work. If you actually knew, none of this would interest you.
 
2012-12-06 08:23:24 PM  

Rent Party: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY

And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.


You're such a consumer whore that you're willing to pay double for a computer in order to not have to do something "your average 12 year old" can do, and you have the chutzpah to say other people are living sad, empty lives? That's rich.
 
2012-12-06 08:25:13 PM  

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Rent Party: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY

And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.

You're such a consumer whore that you're willing to pay double for a computer in order to not have to do something "your average 12 year old" can do, and you have the chutzpah to say other people are living sad, empty lives? That's rich.


I'm a guy that has things to do with his computers. They're just tools. Chest thumping about the pride and accomplishment one feels upon completing such a simple task as screwing a PC together is emblematic of people that have never actually done anything to be proud of.
 
2012-12-06 08:35:45 PM  

Rent Party: umad: Rent Party: umad:
It takes me a half hour to build a computer. Another half hour to install the OS. If that saves you $1500 or hell, let's be conservative and make it $1000 then you just made $1000 an hour. I doubt you make that much at your job. I "waste" my time because I'm not an idiot.

It takes you half an hour to go buy all the bits and pieces, unpack them, and bolt them together?

You're either really fast, or completely full of shiat.

I spend a couple of minutes on newegg and then wait for all of the shiat to show up to my house. Then yes, it takes about an hour to build. I probably don't spend any more time shopping for my parts than you would to spec out your Mac. You don't know what the fark you are talking about. You sound awfully ignorant for someone who claims to "know how they work."

Oh I see, so the couple of days you have to wait doesn't count. I can have a new Mac running about 20 minutes after I decide I want one.

You sound exactly like a guy that thinks screwing one together means he knows how they work. If you actually knew, none of this would interest you.


I work with embedded systems, plcs, robots, and autonomous vehicles every farking day. I am farking positive that my understanding of computers puts yours to shame. So just shut the fark up man. You are the perfect example of the typical Apple fanboy. The lengths you will go to defend your toys is pathetic.
 
2012-12-06 08:39:37 PM  

Rent Party: Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Rent Party: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY

And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.

You're such a consumer whore that you're willing to pay double for a computer in order to not have to do something "your average 12 year old" can do, and you have the chutzpah to say other people are living sad, empty lives? That's rich.

I'm a guy that has things to do with his computers. They're just tools. Chest thumping about the pride and accomplishment one feels upon completing such a simple task as screwing a PC together is emblematic of people that have never actually done anything to be proud of.


And your responses here are emblematic of someone who is so incredibly insecure that they think the fact that they buy pre-built computers makes them better than people who build their own and enjoy doing so. I'm with Tufelaffe on this one, you are deserving of pity.
 
2012-12-06 08:46:19 PM  

Rent Party: I can have a new Mac running about 20 minutes after I decide I want one.


Either you own a replicator or are completely full of shiat.


Rent Party: And why would that be? Because you know so little about technology that you think bolting a PC together makes you smart? Because you've accomplished so little in your life that doing what a 12 year old can do is a measure of accomplishment?


Choice 1: Spend ~$1000 on a computer that you assemble yourself.
Choice 2: Spend $2000 or more on a computer that is functionally identical, that someone else assembles for you, and get your computer possibly an hour or two faster.

Obviously the "smart" choice between the two is to spend more money. After all, everyone knows that spending money is how you show people how smart you are.
 
2012-12-06 10:24:09 PM  

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Rent Party: Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Rent Party: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: Why you would waste spend not much time building something cheaper than you can just go buy is pretty farking dumb smart. You not only spend less money, you know more about the end result, are better able to maintain it, and heaven forbid, might actually get a sense of accomplishment and pride from using something you built yourself.

FTFY

And that is exactly the kind of shiat I mean. If you get a sense of pride and accomplishment because you put together a PC, you must be living one sad, empty life.

You're such a consumer whore that you're willing to pay double for a computer in order to not have to do something "your average 12 year old" can do, and you have the chutzpah to say other people are living sad, empty lives? That's rich.

I'm a guy that has things to do with his computers. They're just tools. Chest thumping about the pride and accomplishment one feels upon completing such a simple task as screwing a PC together is emblematic of people that have never actually done anything to be proud of.

And your responses here are emblematic of someone who is so incredibly insecure that they think the fact that they buy pre-built computers makes them better than people who build their own and enjoy doing so. I'm with Tufelaffe on this one, you are deserving of pity.


I bet he/she/it proudly goes to Jiffy Lube, while telling people who change their own oil that they lead sad and empty lives.
 
2012-12-06 10:30:18 PM  

Teufelaffe: Rent Party: I can have a new Mac running about 20 minutes after I decide I want one.

Either you own a replicator or are completely full of shiat.


Rent Party: And why would that be? Because you know so little about technology that you think bolting a PC together makes you smart? Because you've accomplished so little in your life that doing what a 12 year old can do is a measure of accomplishment?

Choice 1: Spend ~$1000 on a computer that you assemble yourself.
Choice 2: Spend $2000 or more on a computer that is functionally identical, that someone else assembles for you, and get your computer possibly an hour or two faster.

Obviously the "smart" choice between the two is to spend more money. After all, everyone knows that spending money is how you show people how smart you are.


But he said his time is valuable. As evidenced by how long he's spent posting on Fark.
 
2012-12-06 11:27:04 PM  

browntimmy: Teufelaffe: Rent Party: I can have a new Mac running about 20 minutes after I decide I want one.

Either you own a replicator or are completely full of shiat.


Rent Party: And why would that be? Because you know so little about technology that you think bolting a PC together makes you smart? Because you've accomplished so little in your life that doing what a 12 year old can do is a measure of accomplishment?

Choice 1: Spend ~$1000 on a computer that you assemble yourself.
Choice 2: Spend $2000 or more on a computer that is functionally identical, that someone else assembles for you, and get your computer possibly an hour or two faster.

Obviously the "smart" choice between the two is to spend more money. After all, everyone knows that spending money is how you show people how smart you are.

But he said his time is valuable. As evidenced by how long he's spent posting on Fark.


His time is so valuable that he pays other people to post on Fark for him.
 
2012-12-07 02:08:56 AM  

Teufelaffe: Choice 1: Spend ~$1000 on a computer that you assemble yourself.
Choice 2: Spend $2000 or more on a computer that is functionally identical, that someone else assembles for you, and get your computer possibly an hour or two faster.


Where are those numbers from? Your butt?

Here, I'll do an experiment right now. I'll select a Mac Pro configuration from apple.com, and then I'll go price out all the most similar components at newegg and add them up.

Baseline Mac Pro : $2499

Intel Quad-Core Xeon CPU @ 3.2Ghz : $237.99
3 x 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM : $53.99
1TB 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s hard drive (bare) : $79.99
ATI Radeon 5770 1GB GPU : $86.99 (out of stock, because all the 5770 stock left over from a few years ago is sitting in Apple's parts bins now)
double-layer CD/DVD reader/writer : $17.99
Apple Magic Mouse : $67.99
Apple standard keyboard : $69.99
Asus workstation motherboard with 4 card slots : $228.99
aluminum ATX mid-tower case : $89.99
300+W ATX power supply : $29.99

Already we're approaching $1000, and I haven't even tackled Firewire, Bluetooth, 802.11, dual Gigabit Ethernet, OS, warranty, tech support, or any of the other features I know the Mac has but will have to spend a lot of time reading product spec as I assemble my frankenbox. And I've already spent more than half an hour on research for this post, and my time is valuable.

My point is weakened here by the fact that the Mac Pro is an aging product that wouldn't meet my own computing needs very well.
 
Xai
2012-12-07 04:58:45 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Teufelaffe: Choice 1: Spend ~$1000 on a computer that you assemble yourself.
Choice 2: Spend $2000 or more on a computer that is functionally identical, that someone else assembles for you, and get your computer possibly an hour or two faster.

Where are those numbers from? Your butt?

Here, I'll do an experiment right now. I'll select a Mac Pro configuration from apple.com, and then I'll go price out all the most similar components at newegg and add them up.

Baseline Mac Pro : $2499

Intel Quad-Core Xeon CPU @ 3.2Ghz : $237.99
3 x 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM : $53.99
1TB 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s hard drive (bare) : $79.99
ATI Radeon 5770 1GB GPU : $86.99 (out of stock, because all the 5770 stock left over from a few years ago is sitting in Apple's parts bins now)
double-layer CD/DVD reader/writer : $17.99
Apple Magic Mouse : $67.99
Apple standard keyboard : $69.99
Asus workstation motherboard with 4 card slots : $228.99
aluminum ATX mid-tower case : $89.99
300+W ATX power supply : $29.99

Already we're approaching $1000, and I haven't even tackled Firewire, Bluetooth, 802.11, dual Gigabit Ethernet, OS, warranty, tech support, or any of the other features I know the Mac has but will have to spend a lot of time reading product spec as I assemble my frankenbox. And I've already spent more than half an hour on research for this post, and my time is valuable.

My point is weakened here by the fact that the Mac Pro is an aging product that wouldn't meet my own computing needs very well.


you're only getting close to $1000 because you bought a genuine apple mouse/keyboard and a $230 motherboard - you could have saved about $150 if you got non-apple peripherals and you can easily get a motherboard for under $150 too.
I'll also point out that the firewire, ethernet, warranty are already included and a wireless/bluetooth card wouldn't be more than $50. Given that windows 8 is surprisingly cheap these days, we've got $925 including windows 8 and an extra $137.98 for the overpriced apple peripherals.

Realisticly you're still over $1000 better off building it yourself. I agree it is nice to have it all done for you and there is nothing wrong with the mac, but mighty expensive to do it that way.
 
2012-12-08 06:50:48 PM  

brigid_fitch: Where are Word Processors? They were huge in the mid- late-80s. "Hey, I know--let's make a computer than only does word processing, using proprietary computer disks & proprietary ribbon cartridges for the printer! And we'll charge only a couple hundred dollars less than an actual computer!"

/Yes, ribbon cartridges. Like a typewriter


Ahem, those are going to be worth a lot some day
 
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