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2012-12-05 07:18:51 PM

spawn73: The All-Powerful Atheismo: spawn73: You're factually incorrect. The Neo-geo wasn't intended for the mainstream at all. It was arcade systems intended for, well, arcades, hotels and the like.

They're talking about the home console, tard. There are two different versions.

I know what they were talking about mongol, and that version was released exactly because there was a demand. Arguing otherwise is moronic, since we're talking about something that has happened, and thus can be verified as fact.


Call me a mongol if you want but you're a farking tard for saying it was meant for arcades and hotels when it, being what they were quite specifically referring to, was a home console version.
 
2012-12-05 07:23:01 PM
Gizmodo not only throats Apple, but cups their balls, too, apparently.
 
2012-12-05 07:24:47 PM

Rockstone: Mugato: 10 grand for a PC? What do you even do with a PC where there's no internet? Write a paper? Get a typewriter.

The internet has been around since the 60s. There was an internet. Not one you could use the Lisa to access, but there was one.


Yes I'm very aware of ARPANET, et all, you don't have to lord over us your vast knowledge of internet history. You know what I meant.
 
2012-12-05 07:38:09 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: spawn73: The All-Powerful Atheismo: spawn73: You're factually incorrect. The Neo-geo wasn't intended for the mainstream at all. It was arcade systems intended for, well, arcades, hotels and the like.

They're talking about the home console, tard. There are two different versions.

I know what they were talking about mongol, and that version was released exactly because there was a demand. Arguing otherwise is moronic, since we're talking about something that has happened, and thus can be verified as fact.

Call me a mongol if you want but you're a farking tard for saying it was meant for arcades and hotels when it, being what they were quite specifically referring to, was a home console version.


"Initially, the home system was only available for rent to commercial establishments, such as hotel chains, bars and restaurants, and other venues. When customer response indicated that some gamers were willing to buy a $650 console, SNK expanded sales and marketing into the home console market."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo


When I made the argument that this was something that could be verified as fact, it didn't cross your mind that I might have done precisely that? Dude, you are a bit slow...
 
2012-12-05 07:40:58 PM

Bullseyed: Anything with more than 15% margin is overpriced.


A 15% margin won't even keep your business open.
 
2012-12-05 07:51:18 PM

Elzar: List is useless without the Neo Geo... $250 per game - oh yeah!


infiniteexplosions.files.wordpress.com

Actual Neo-Geo ad.
 
2012-12-05 07:53:52 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Honest Bender: [maxcdn.fooyoh.com image 540x271]

Apple TV is $99, and it's actually not a bad deal.
I've never rented a movie through the thing, but it's nice for streaming Netflix, plus some other free content.


And Roku is $50. So, yeah, twice what your competition puts out for almost exactly the same product? Yeah, that's a bad deal.
 
2012-12-05 08:00:32 PM

Teufelaffe: MrEricSir: Funny that people still think Apple's products are overpriced. Guess it's easier to use 20 year old stereotypes than to compare prices.

I guess it's easier to biatch about people ragging on Apple's prices than it is to compare prices. In every market, with the singular exception of tablets, Apple products are almost always priced higher than comparable competitor's products. This is especially true in the PC market. iMacs are still $1300+ for something I can get from Dell for half that (even less if I build it myself).


I just was in a Best Buy and saw tablets from Samsung, Amazon, and a few other manufacturers which seemed quite comparable to anything Apple put out that were a whole lot cheaper.
 
2012-12-05 08:02:34 PM

MrEricSir: Bullseyed: MrEricSir: Funny that people still think Apple's products are overpriced. Guess it's easier to use 20 year old stereotypes than to compare prices.

Cost to make an iPhone5 = $325
Selling price of iPhone5 = $700


Derp.

Oops, looks like you forgot to make a point. Derp indeed.


Are you seriously unable to understand his point? If so, that's on you, not him. He made his point quite clear.
 
2012-12-05 08:06:20 PM

MrEricSir: Treygreen13: MrEricSir: You're seriously comparing a computer you built to an iMac? WTF are you smoking, exactly?

Explain how something you built can't be compared to a product build by someone else.

They certainly have different target markets - the iMac is a computer for people who don't want to build their own computer, or even upgrade. But if you're comparing price they're just two pieces of electronics. It's fair to compare them.

Unless the cost of a computer you built yourself includes a built-in 27 inch display, then there's no comparison to be made. It's like comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Lexus. I mean, they're both cars, right? What's the difference?


As someone who doesn't understand why people buy new cars instead of used, let alone luxury brands instead of mainstream ones, I would say -- nothing of significance.
 
2012-12-05 08:10:22 PM

mcreadyblue: Treygreen13: MrEricSir: Think of it this way: the iMac is internally not much different than a giant laptop.

I get that you like the built in display. But for many people, a desktop computer having a combined tower/screen isn't a big selling point considering the hefty additional price.

Since you like car analogies, let's go with this.

One car is your standard 4-door sedan.
The other is a 4-door sedan that can (at the press of a button) release the aroma of bacon into your car, at twice the price.

Now, the bacon smell is nice, and people are probably impressed that you got the new Baconmobile and want to ride in it. But then every day when you're driving to work, you're still pushing the same gas pedal and powering the same engine to drive your sedan. Except you paid twice as much for the bacon smell.

How does Windows 8 fit in car analogies?

IOS is a Ferrari and Windows 8 is a '78 Buick?


If you have a touch-screen and Windows 8 you're going to realize that Apple is about to get their shiat kicked in. Windows 8 without a touchscreen? Yeah, eh. Windows 8 with a touchscreen? Holy god, it's good.
 
2012-12-05 08:26:48 PM

meanmutton: Are you seriously unable to understand his point? If so, that's on you, not him. He made his point quite clear.


If his point is that he doesn't understand how to compare prices, then yes. If he attempted to respond to anything I wrote, then he's an idiot.
 
2012-12-05 09:35:33 PM

Mad_Radhu: Nem Wan: Nofun: Every mac ever has been overpriced, especially lately. Way back when, you could actually somewhat justify the price since they built their own hardware in house. Now, they're exactly the same thing as a Windows computer with a shiny aluminum case, their own proprietary OS, and a $500 markup.

It's a really, really, nice aluminum case, and the OS is the whole point. Since you can't buy the OS licensed for anything but a Mac, we don't even know how much of a Mac price is the OS. Even when they sold full installs of the OS in a retail box, the price of that box was technically an upgrade of your user license that came with your Mac hardware.

Also, every version of Mac OS you get is the same, unlike Windows where there's a lot of functionality that you lose on the home version. It's getting better with Win 8, but Win 7 was a huge mess because some key features like BitLocker required an expensive upgrade to the Ultimate Edition. I can understand things like joining a domain being left out of the home version, but who doesn't want to have the option for strong drive encryption?

Hell, OS X Server is now just a $20 upgrade of the base OS, so you can cheaply turn a Mac Mini into a small business server. How much is that going to cost you with a cheap PC?


Linux is free, and dead easy to set up....
 
2012-12-05 09:56:30 PM

PsyLord: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x200]

/am I doing this right?
/not sure


Bring back the F-16s.

/i'd have an awesome job
 
2012-12-05 10:14:49 PM

Mad_Radhu: mcreadyblue: How does Windows 8 fit in car analogies?

[images.businessweek.com image 600x350]


Hey now, I like Subaru Baja.

I loved the Brat.

cache.jalopnik.com
 
2012-12-05 10:51:49 PM
If Windows 8 were a car, the steering wheel, pedals and gear shift would all be replaced by buttons, and they would be in the same place as the buttons for the heat, A/C, stereo and anything else they decided to cram in. Good luck figuring out how to drive, and not crash. Did I mention that the brakes are in a hidden location, and you have to do a complicated gesture to open a panel and get to them?
 
2012-12-05 11:34:37 PM
How could they miss the Vertu phones on this list? Because spending $10,000+ for a 5-year-old Nokia phone encrusted in gold and jewels sounds like a real bargain.
 
2012-12-05 11:43:40 PM

Rent Party: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: StrangeQ: At its $499 base price, Microsoft's first tablet costs the same as the fourth-generation iPad, the well-established leader in the tablet market. The attractive Surface has a worse screen than the iPad, it lasts 5 hours less on a charge and, at launch time, had only a handful of decent apps for its nascent Windows RT operating system.

However, you may want the Surface because of its heavily-advertised Touch Cover keyboard, a must-have accessory that will set you back an extra $119, even though it costs Microsoft only $16 to manufacture. That's $619 for a new, unproven tablet which trails the $499 market leader in most ways.

I'm surprised the author was able to take Apple's dick out of their mouth long enough to write all of that. Of course they don't include any recent Apple products, isn't Gizmodo just a paid Apple shill at this point?

/and why the fark do we still link to gawker sites to begin with?

And what part of his quoted text do you find inaccurate?

The part where he compares a base model $499 Surface + $100 keyboard to a base model $499 iPad without a keyboard and then says "SEE OVER PRICED SURFACE!!!!" Because you know, that iPad comes with a keyboard, right? Oh it doesn't? You have to buy it!!! The outrage!!!!

It's almost like he was being disingenuous or something.


Eh just two-three weeks ago woot was selling refurb Asus TF300's w/ the keyboard dock for 300 bucks. Even new you can get the combo for 400 bucks or so. Same chip too, though the surface might have a better screen.s
 
2012-12-06 01:02:28 AM
I saw a $250 HDMI cord in a Crutchfield magazine.....disgusting!
 
2012-12-06 01:52:40 AM

brigid_fitch:

/Yes, ribbon cartridges. Like a typewriter


They just stole that idea from the Resident Evil series...I smell a lawsuit!
 
2012-12-06 04:01:50 AM

Mad_Radhu: Seriously, pirates. Can we please standardize on a file format? What is wrong with H.264? They are worse than hipsters in moving on to another format just as soon as every device starts native supporting the preferred format. First DivX/XviD, now H.264. I'm sure that as soon as MKV is supported on all devices, they'll invent some new marginally better container and codec just for the lulz.


Oh indeed. People got mad at me for uploading .mpg containers, despite universal playback capability. It was the default in mkv2vob.
 
Xai
2012-12-06 06:12:58 AM
The very first one on the list is Microsoft's $500 32Gb tablet with a $120 keyboard/cover. Despite the fact that iPad 32Gb is $600 and it's another $150 for keyboard and cover.

Not at all biased.
 
2012-12-06 08:25:21 AM

Xai: The very first one on the list is Microsoft's $500 32Gb tablet with a $120 keyboard/cover. Despite the fact that iPad 32Gb is $600 and it's another $150 for keyboard and cover.

Not at all biased.


The 32Gb Xoom is only $329. That doesn't mean it isn't overpriced for what you get.
 
Xai
2012-12-06 09:00:36 AM

Carth: Xai: The very first one on the list is Microsoft's $500 32Gb tablet with a $120 keyboard/cover. Despite the fact that iPad 32Gb is $600 and it's another $150 for keyboard and cover.

Not at all biased.

The 32Gb Xoom is only $329. That doesn't mean it isn't overpriced for what you get.


The surface has a larger screen, built in stand, top quality build, connectivity and compatability, is thinner than the iPad and comes pre-installed with office applications. Given that it is cheaper than an equivalent iPad then I don't see why it isn't better value. In fact the only tangible downside Gizmodo can give (aside from the blatant lie of 5hrs less battery life - iPad is 10hrs, surface is 8) is that there are fewer apps, and considering that the tablet has been out for about 1 month I'd say it isn't doing bad.

It doesn't have the apple logo and will never outsell it, but why is it on top a list of overpriced things when the apple version costs more and does less.
 
2012-12-06 09:36:04 AM
What, no love for the Wattgate 381?
 
2012-12-06 10:04:40 AM

Antimatter: What, no Neo-geo or 3DO? Both were interesting systems killed by insane prices on the console and games. I'd say the ps3 ranks up there, at launch anyways, but those two are still king.


Neo-Geo is best thought of as an arcade platform (a la Capcom's CPS or Sega's System 16) where the manufacturer experimented with a home system to see if it would result in additional revenue.

3DO and PS3 both suffered from spec fetishism and crammed more power into the hardware than was called for, and ended up with astronomical consumer prices as a result. Sony's survived because they were Sony; none of the members of the 3DO consortium were very committed to the product in the first place, and wisely let it die.
 
2012-12-06 10:24:47 AM

Xai: Carth: Xai: The very first one on the list is Microsoft's $500 32Gb tablet with a $120 keyboard/cover. Despite the fact that iPad 32Gb is $600 and it's another $150 for keyboard and cover.

Not at all biased.

The 32Gb Xoom is only $329. That doesn't mean it isn't overpriced for what you get.

The surface has a larger screen, built in stand, top quality build, connectivity and compatability, is thinner than the iPad and comes pre-installed with office applications. Given that it is cheaper than an equivalent iPad then I don't see why it isn't better value. In fact the only tangible downside Gizmodo can give (aside from the blatant lie of 5hrs less battery life - iPad is 10hrs, surface is 8) is that there are fewer apps, and considering that the tablet has been out for about 1 month I'd say it isn't doing bad.

It doesn't have the apple logo and will never outsell it, but why is it on top a list of overpriced things when the apple version costs more and does less.


I went to the local MS store (holiday store), with the intention of buying one. While I agree that it seems pretty solidly built, and I like the aspect ratio of the screen, I was underwhelmed with the performance.
I passed on it. 
But yeah, it should not be included on the over-priced list.
 
2012-12-06 10:26:41 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: If you really want to take apart the comparison, the $499 iPad has 16GB, as opposed to the $499 surface having 32GB.


Well, yeah -- if they shipped a Windows RT device with only 16GB of storage, there'd be no room left for apps or data.
 
2012-12-06 10:29:54 AM

poot_rootbeer: Sony's survived because they were Sony; none of the members of the 3DO consortium were very committed to the product in the first place, and wisely let it die.


Sony kept the PS3 alive because it was basically a trojan horse for the Blu-ray format. When the war was raging between Blu-ray and HD DVD the fact that there were already millions of Blu-ray players in peoples' houses (disguised as game machines) was not insignificant. Sony probably makes more money off of Blu-ray licensing fees than they ever did off the PS3.

Also, much hay has been made about the initial high cost of the PS3, but if you take the cost of the original Atari 2600 and adjust it for inflation, you get pretty much the same price as the PS3 was at release.
 
2012-12-06 10:30:57 AM

meanmutton: MrEricSir: Bullseyed: MrEricSir: Funny that people still think Apple's products are overpriced. Guess it's easier to use 20 year old stereotypes than to compare prices.

Cost to make an iPhone5 = $325
Selling price of iPhone5 = $700


Derp.

Oops, looks like you forgot to make a point. Derp indeed.

Are you seriously unable to understand his point? If so, that's on you, not him. He made his point quite clear.


I don't understand what profit margin has to do with whether or not something is overpriced. If I want something enough to spend $700 on it and it is priced at $700, then it is priced correctly. The cost of manufacturing doesn't factor into the equation.

Of course, I don't want an iPhone5 enough to spend $700, but lots of people do.
 
2012-12-06 11:39:14 AM

ThePuceGuardian: Is it wrong that I kind of want one of those OQO Model 01's now?

i.imgur.com

I'm living in the future, baby! Oh, and there are two on EBay. Hmm...

Mind, I still kind of want a Newton, also. Looks like there're a few of those on EBay, too.
The holidays are going to be expensive this year if I'm not careful...


I was at a Verison store (comparison shopping) and they had a demo that looked like that. It was 1" thick for each the screen and keyboard side of the slider, So the whole device was about 2" thick. I went over to find out what the specs on such a beast was, what ports it had etc...

It was an non-working enlarged model of a normal slider cell phone. It did have a working screen to show the add for the phone it was supposed to represent. I felt bad for myself for considering such a monstrosity.
 
2012-12-06 11:43:07 AM

MrEricSir: Funny that people still think Apple's products are overpriced. Guess it's easier to use 20 year old stereotypes than to compare prices.


Stop. When I compared an equivalent Mac to the PC I built last year, it was well over twice as much.
 
2012-12-06 12:06:04 PM

browntimmy: equivalent


This is only possible by cherrypicking which parts you consider equivalents, and which you disregard as unimportant.

I will concede things like "CPU model" and "amount of RAM" are magnitudally more important than "unibody aluminum construction", but it remains that if you tried to match every part that's in a stock Macintosh, the final price won't be less than half.
 
2012-12-06 12:52:28 PM

thurstonxhowell: I don't understand what profit margin has to do with whether or not something is overpriced.


High profit margin in comparison to the rest of the industry = overpriced

MS charging $120 for a $16 item when other companies sell tablet keyboards for as low as $30 means that the Surface keyboard is overpriced.

Of course, if you're absolutely certain that profit margin is unrelated to something being overpriced, go buy some Monster cables, Beats by Dr. Dre headphones, anything from Alienware, or some name-brand printer ink and tell us more.
 
2012-12-06 12:58:38 PM

flaminio: Also, much hay has been made about the initial high cost of the PS3, but if you take the cost of the original Atari 2600 and adjust it for inflation, you get pretty much the same price as the PS3 was at release.


that may be true but at the time of the atari's launch, it did not have two cheaper competitors that did practically the same thing for a cheaper price. the launch of the PS3 at 700\600 bucks was a goddamned mistake and it cost sony this generation, it cost the creator of playstation his job and probably cost a few japanese people their lives if the suicide rate over there is any indication of anything at all. the PS3 should have outright failed.... but sony just kept pumping blood into the corpse until it came back to life. it is a great console but it was vastly overpriced.
 
2012-12-06 01:07:58 PM

Teufelaffe: anything from Alienware


Hey now. My mx11 was in no way overpriced. The thing is awesome.
 
2012-12-06 02:21:22 PM

thurstonxhowell: meanmutton: MrEricSir: Bullseyed: MrEricSir: Funny that people still think Apple's products are overpriced. Guess it's easier to use 20 year old stereotypes than to compare prices.

Cost to make an iPhone5 = $325
Selling price of iPhone5 = $700


Derp.

Oops, looks like you forgot to make a point. Derp indeed.

Are you seriously unable to understand his point? If so, that's on you, not him. He made his point quite clear.

I don't understand what profit margin has to do with whether or not something is overpriced. If I want something enough to spend $700 on it and it is priced at $700, then it is priced correctly. The cost of manufacturing doesn't factor into the equation.

Of course, I don't want an iPhone5 enough to spend $700, but lots of people do.




As someone who actually works in consumer electronic product development and management I'd just like to point out that most of what you buy in Best Buy cost 25% of the MSRP to build.

Typically you want to sell the units to the distributor (Best Buy) for 100% profit. That helps cover your tooling and parts, engineering and design, packaging, shipping (from the far east usually) and sales and makes you money.

Best Buy then sells the device for a 100% markup to pay for the rent, sales team, advertising...etc.

I'm not sure where the 15% number came from but it's way out of line. And comparing revenue vs. profit of a company is not a good way to look at development costs as there can be a million other reasons that impact that final # that are completely divorced from the products. Like CEO bonuses, and existing loans, and lawsuits...etc.


Apple does very well because:

1. Volume
2. Low # of products - ties back to 1.
3. Vertical integration - Apple owns elements of the production and distribution
4. Eliminating distributors - a lot of people buy directly from Apple (online or in Apple stores)
5. Because of 1-4 Apple can negotiate more favorable prices / agreements with distributors. I don't know what AT&T makes or Best Buy makes on an Apple sale but it's probably less than they make on selling a Samsung or a Visio. Of course they probably sell more Apple devices too.
 
2012-12-06 02:27:09 PM
The only real way to define overpriced is to look at sales. What one person considers overpriced another may consider worth every penny, and so therefore, the best way to judge it is if a product flops as the people have spoken with their money.
 
2012-12-06 02:41:09 PM

poot_rootbeer: browntimmy: equivalent

This is only possible by cherrypicking which parts you consider equivalents, and which you disregard as unimportant.

I will concede things like "CPU model" and "amount of RAM" are magnitudally more important than "unibody aluminum construction", but it remains that if you tried to match every part that's in a stock Macintosh, the final price won't be less than half.


On the subject of RAM, I have 32 GB in mine. Looking at the apple website, ppgrading from the standard 6GB to 32GB costs an additional $975.
 
2012-12-06 02:42:22 PM

browntimmy: poot_rootbeer: browntimmy: equivalent

This is only possible by cherrypicking which parts you consider equivalents, and which you disregard as unimportant.

I will concede things like "CPU model" and "amount of RAM" are magnitudally more important than "unibody aluminum construction", but it remains that if you tried to match every part that's in a stock Macintosh, the final price won't be less than half.

On the subject of RAM, I have 32 GB in mine. Looking at the apple website, ppgrading from the standard 6GB to 32GB costs an additional $975.


If you buy a Mac Mini (much more comparable to I BUILDZ MAH OWNZ!!!) then you can use the same $100 worth if SDRAM off of Amazon.
 
2012-12-06 02:47:37 PM

fo_sho!: I don't know what AT&T makes or Best Buy makes on an Apple sale but it's probably less than they make on selling a Samsung or a Visio. Of course they probably sell more Apple devices too.


iirc from when I was working at Best Buy, they have around a 5% margin on Apple hardware. It goes as high as 10-15% for Apple-branded accessories.

/That's why I never bought an iPod touch when I worked there even though I wanted one. Even with the "cost + 5%" that employees pay, I would still end up paying ~$195 for a $200 iPod.
 
2012-12-06 04:30:34 PM

poot_rootbeer: browntimmy: equivalent

This is only possible by cherrypicking which parts you consider equivalents, and which you disregard as unimportant.

I will concede things like "CPU model" and "amount of RAM" are magnitudally more important than "unibody aluminum construction", but it remains that if you tried to match every part that's in a stock Macintosh, the final price won't be less than half.


That was my experience.
I bought a Mac Pro 2-3 years ago. Beforehand, I compared it to the equivalent Dell workstation--dual quad-core Xeon, same clock speed, same intel chipset, same ECC RAM, HD size, etc. The Dell was over $5k. The Mac was $3k. And came with a much better aluminum case, etc.
Never gave a shiat about the OS. Immediately formatted it and installed Win7. But got it for 2000 less than I would have with Dell.

Now, if you say Macbooks are overpriced, or iMacs are overpriced, I might agree.
 
2012-12-06 05:34:17 PM

ReverendJasen: That was my experience.


No it wasn't. You priced it from Dell, which is exactly opposite of what they are talking about. If you had priced the individual components from newegg it would indeed be much cheaper than from Apple.
 
2012-12-06 05:55:02 PM

umad: You priced it from Dell, which is exactly opposite of what they are talking about. If you had priced the individual components from newegg it would indeed be much cheaper than from Apple.


Does NewEgg sell a la carte warranties and technical support, to make the comparison equal to a machine that an OEM like Dell or Apple sells to you?

True, if you're building your own you probably don't need them, but they're still a part of the system cost. Going back to my point about cherry picking.
 
2012-12-06 06:36:35 PM

poot_rootbeer: umad: You priced it from Dell, which is exactly opposite of what they are talking about. If you had priced the individual components from newegg it would indeed be much cheaper than from Apple.

Does NewEgg sell a la carte warranties and technical support, to make the comparison equal to a machine that an OEM like Dell or Apple sells to you?

True, if you're building your own you probably don't need them, but they're still a part of the system cost. Going back to my point about cherry picking.


I wasn't taking a stand on the cherry picking bit one way or the other. I was just pointing out that ordering something from Dell is not the same thing as building it yourself, which is what the conversation was about.
 
2012-12-06 06:41:11 PM

umad: I was just pointing out that ordering something from Dell is not the same thing as building it yourself, which is what the conversation was about.


Then why do you insist that I BUILDZ IT!!! is the same thing as ordering from Apple, which *is* what the conversation is about.
 
2012-12-06 07:38:10 PM

Rent Party: umad: I was just pointing out that ordering something from Dell is not the same thing as building it yourself, which is what the conversation was about.

Then why do you insist that I BUILDZ IT!!! is the same thing as ordering from Apple, which *is* what the conversation is about.


The conversation was about how you can build a computer with better hardware than what Apple is selling for much cheaper. This may surprise you, but you can also build a computer with better hardware than what Dell is selling for much cheaper.

So no, building your own computer for less than what Apple charges is not the same thing as ordering a computer from Dell that costs more. I am not surprised that this confuses you. I wouldn't expect anything less from Apple customers.
 
2012-12-06 07:45:31 PM

umad: Rent Party: umad: I was just pointing out that ordering something from Dell is not the same thing as building it yourself, which is what the conversation was about.

Then why do you insist that I BUILDZ IT!!! is the same thing as ordering from Apple, which *is* what the conversation is about.

The conversation was about how you can build a computer with better hardware than what Apple is selling for much cheaper. This may surprise you, but you can also build a computer with better hardware than what Dell is selling for much cheaper.



Well I guess you're right back to "Does NewEgg sell a la carte warranties and technical support, to make the comparison equal to a machine that an OEM like Dell or Apple sells to you?" then, aren't you.

I am not surprised that some clown that thinks bolting together parts to build a PC is some sign of technical savvy can't make that distinction.
 
2012-12-06 07:54:22 PM

Rent Party: umad: Rent Party: umad: I was just pointing out that ordering something from Dell is not the same thing as building it yourself, which is what the conversation was about.

Then why do you insist that I BUILDZ IT!!! is the same thing as ordering from Apple, which *is* what the conversation is about.

The conversation was about how you can build a computer with better hardware than what Apple is selling for much cheaper. This may surprise you, but you can also build a computer with better hardware than what Dell is selling for much cheaper.



Well I guess you're right back to "Does NewEgg sell a la carte warranties and technical support, to make the comparison equal to a machine that an OEM like Dell or Apple sells to you?" then, aren't you.

I am not surprised that some clown that thinks bolting together parts to build a PC is some sign of technical savvy can't make that distinction.


Who the fark cares about a warranty when you can build a completely new machine with the difference you are saving in costs? And if you need their technical support then you have no business telling somebody else that they aren't tech savvy. My tech support is right here and it is free. You tards act like computers are magic or something. Jesus Christ.
 
2012-12-06 07:57:27 PM

umad:

Who the fark cares about a warranty when you can build a completely new machine with the difference you are saving in costs? And if you need their technical support then you have no business telling somebody else that they aren't tech savvy. My tech support is right here and it is free. You tards act like computers are magic or something. Jesus Christ.


No, we act like computers are tools. I know how they farking work. They aren't mysterious, they're ordinary.

Your average 12 year old can put together a PC, and often times they do. Why you think it's so special is a continual source of amazement, but what it really does is tell me how much you *don't* know.
 
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