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2012-12-05 05:30:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abG2p9MwVRo

(lifted)

never fails to make me laugh like a loon when i need to do that very thing.
 
2012-12-05 05:32:35 PM

theurge14: Cythraul: AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.

You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.

Talking dogs flying fighter planes. Seriously, what the shiat? I thought I was watching a Dreamworks movie.


Wait, THAT'S how it ends? Never finished it, don't feel bad about it anymore.

And everyone says the opening was devastating, but those two had decades of love and happiness, we should all be so lucky.
 
2012-12-05 05:33:35 PM

Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.

So you're proudly repeating nonsense?

Umm, no. I've heard of instances where American southern actors were asked to 'redneckify' their accents for a film because they didn't sound 'southern enough.'

So, in this instance, it could be possible.


Could be, but you have absolutely nothing to back it up, and you're willfully repeating it.
 
2012-12-05 05:42:48 PM
Because the competition is minimum effort garbage designed to create a large return for the producers by aiming at an easily manipulated demographic?
 
2012-12-05 05:42:53 PM

Expolaris: peterthx: Expolaris: Saw Wreck-It Ralph for my girlfriend's birthday - she loves Disney and i love Gaming so it was a great movie for both of us to discover great common ground with each other. Since then she has suggested i dress as Ralph for Halloween if only for being able to dress as Vanellope herself. I Recently saw Brave - liked the hell out of it, especially the Dad. Wished i had seen it in theaters with her i bet it would have been fun.

But the best part of going to see a Pixar film in theaters...the shorts before the movie itself.

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They always leave me with a smile.

Paperman is not Pixar (played before Wreck-It Ralph)

Really? Do you know which studio put it together i really liked it and thought it stood on it's own. I still lump them in together with the other heart warming shorts.

Almost forgot one of my favorites!

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It was produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios, same as Wreck-It Ralph.
 
2012-12-05 05:47:26 PM

Hebalo: moothemagiccow: Toy Story 3 had the same plot as Toy Story 2.

Wow, I missed the Toy Store, evil toy owner, and airplane sequences in Toy Story 3. Not to mention the inner workings of the daycare in Toy Story 2.

Do you actually pay attention to the films, or just spout nonsense after having them on in the background?

WAIT! I'm overreacting, there were characters that were in both films. That, they had in common.


toys that belong to kid too old for toys get lost
 
2012-12-05 05:49:17 PM

brandent: Goonie_Goo_Goo: Watched "Brave" the other day. It looked strangely familiar...

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I was telling the kids the other day "you know Pixar has never made a bad movie". Well that's still true but before the Disney corruption you could honestly say "every movie Pixar has ever made has been super awesome!"

Brave wasn't really even good. Not bad but not good. Oh and a complete ripoff.


Ripoff of what pray tell?

Just because it had a character turned into a bear? That makes it Brother Bear? You must think ALIEN and Star Trek are exactly the same because they have spaceships and androids.
 
2012-12-05 07:02:06 PM
Pixar movies are "goddamned good" in the same sense that fast food, Christmas songs, and blue jeans are.

Lowest common denominator, convenient, ubiquitous, and not terrible...but also far from "goddamn good."

I'm surprised there aren't more snobs dissing them.
 
2012-12-05 07:08:31 PM

Ed Grubermann: factoryconnection: Tangled (not Pixar)

I couldn't finish Tangled. First musical number and I ejected the DVD and sent it back to Netflix. Why does Disney keep doing that?


Probably because Disney makes musicals. And a musical without music is sort of pointless.
 
2012-12-05 08:00:18 PM

bifford: I just checked it: Wreck-It Ralph was a Disney film, not a Pixar one. This surprised me, as in terms of animation and writing quality, it easily looked like Pixar material.


When Disney bought Pixar the top guy at Pixar, John Lasseter, was given control of Disney Animation as well. He was the executive producer of all the Pixar flicks and also Wreck-It Ralph.
 
2012-12-05 09:12:00 PM

moothemagiccow: Hebalo: moothemagiccow: Toy Story 3 had the same plot as Toy Story 2.

Wow, I missed the Toy Store, evil toy owner, and airplane sequences in Toy Story 3. Not to mention the inner workings of the daycare in Toy Story 2.

Do you actually pay attention to the films, or just spout nonsense after having them on in the background?

WAIT! I'm overreacting, there were characters that were in both films. That, they had in common.

toys that belong to kid too old for toys get lost


You and I have very different definitions of plot. In your world, every action movie is "Good guy gets get, shoots lots of bad guys".
 
2012-12-05 09:32:07 PM
John Lasseter. That is the secret. Since he started running all Disney animation things have gotten good. Tangled, Wreck it Ralph, and Paper Man are good examples. The greatest thing Steve Jobs was fund John Lasseter.
 
2012-12-05 10:55:52 PM

wildcardjack: For the longest time Pixar's secret was in NOT doing things.

Then they started making sequels and it all went to shiat.


Their third movie was a sequel, but that's a fine theory.

/Unless you think "A Bug's Life" was their zenith.
 
2012-12-05 11:08:09 PM

NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"



Because it's sooo hipster to have an opinion.
Get over yourself.
 
2012-12-05 11:14:18 PM

verbaltoxin: When I have kids I'll be subjected to that stuff all over, but for now, give me something with cussing, tits and blood in it.


..

you want a basement?
 
2012-12-06 12:00:15 AM

cicdle: John Lasseter. That is the secret. Since he started running all Disney animation things have gotten good. Tangled, Wreck it Ralph, and Paper Man are good examples. The greatest thing Steve Jobs was fund John Lasseter.


The greatest thing George Lucas did was get divorced to create the financial need to sell his computer graphics division of ILM which Steve Jobs then bought from him to create Pixar. Essentially the wreckage of Lucas' marriage gave us the studio we all love today. And three shiatty Star Wars prequels. There's your ironic schadenfreude.

IMHO the late Joe Ranft, as much as if not more than John Lasseter, was responsible for much of Pixar's early success. Ranft's storywriting abilities shaped much of the franchise. My theory is Pixar started going south after Cars, which was in production when Ranft died in a car accident. Ratatouille, Wall-E and Up, while they had moments of absolute, visceral majesty, were hampered by previously-mentioned weak plot elements and endings.

As for Toy Story 3 being too intense for kids? I agree the gulag aspects of the preschool were a bit heavy, but all I remember is myself and several hundred teens and grown adults crying their eyes out at the ending, while their kids either sat dumbfounded at all the emotion or cried because mom and dad were tearing up. Toy Story 3 was to me the end of that story, and I really, REALLY don't want a #4. That will be that story's Cars 2, which was an abomination to cinema. 

/I also agree that Wreck It Ralph is in my top 5 animated films of all time
//#1 still being Snow White...you can't ever outdo the very first one
///Walt Disney did the whole thing with a paintbrush, and it was excellent
 
2012-12-06 12:04:05 AM
www.pixarportal.com
 
2012-12-06 12:56:50 AM
Up made me cry because my young wife had just died, leaving me with two young children.

Brave made me cry for the hope I have of my young daughter growing into a strong woman.

They tell stories that touch people, and they tell them well.

(Cars and sequel didn't touch me at all, though. Just fluff for me.)
 
2012-12-06 04:45:08 AM

th0th: Essentially the wreckage of Lucas' marriage gave us the studio we all love today. And three shiatty Star Wars prequels. There's your ironic schadenfreude.


Lucas's divorce gave us Empire and Jedi, neither of which were written or directed by him.
 
2012-12-06 09:31:43 AM
I like Cars 2 better than Cars, it had better animation and a more interesting plot. I think people dislike it because it has too much Mater. I get this.

Brave is a GREAT story for women and little girls. As a father of a little girl, I support her watching this film for its strong female role, something seriously lacking in kids programming. This movie just doesn't have the laughs I have come to expect from Pixar which makes it hard for me to watch over and over.

I agree the scene in the beginning of Up is a tear-jerker, even made my 60+ year-old retired Air Force Colonel father weep. But the scene that really, really gets me is towards the climax where he finally turns the page of Ellie's book and finds out that the great adventure she lived was living with him. Plus, I think the dogs are hysterical, their lines are the ones I quote to annoy my wife.
 
2012-12-06 09:51:47 AM

mbrother: Pixar movies are "goddamned good" in the same sense that fast food, Christmas songs, and blue jeans are.

Lowest common denominator, convenient, ubiquitous, and not terrible...but also far from "goddamn good."


Maybe in some ways, but as someone with a little experience in computer animation, there's a ton of skill and man hours that go into making those images. It's not something you can just slap together or do without any care.
 
2012-12-06 10:13:56 AM
Well, since no one els... SQUIRREL!
 
2012-12-06 10:18:19 AM

soporific: I thought Brave was all right, but my wife absolutely loved it. I have to give them credit, it's the kind of film that I've never seen before, focusing so much on the Mother/Daughter bond. It was a bold move, and white it didn't resonate with me, props to them for taking a chance. And not just remaking Mulan.

Of course, the animated film that got me this year was Wreck It Ralph. Saw that movie twice and both times it got me in a way that Pixar really hasn't the past few years. When a movie makes me laugh out loud and tear up in the same minute, it's a great film. (Even the short at the beginning, with the paper airplanes, was utterly fantastic and right up there with any Pixar short.) I really want to see Wreck It Ralph win best animated film next year at the Oscars.

I am a bit nervous about the Monsters Inc. Prequel. It's going to be cute and funny, but can they really top the emotional climax of the first one? Will they be able to match the absolute emotional awesome that is the final moment when Sully peeks his head in the door? It still gets me every time.


I liked Brave too. I don't think it's necessary to rip my heart out every pixar movie. This one was decently acted, the story was good, the animation fantastic, and the plot didn't wander from the main theme much at all. Was it their best effort? I doubt they can easily outdo Monsters Inc. our Toy Story 3. It was stil better than most of the live action stuff out there though. Except for "Butter", that movie kicked ass.
 
2012-12-06 10:28:14 AM

moothemagiccow: th0th: Essentially the wreckage of Lucas' marriage gave us the studio we all love today. And three shiatty Star Wars prequels. There's your ironic schadenfreude.

Lucas's divorce gave us Empire and Jedi, neither of which were written or directed by him.


He wrote both. Kasdan wrote the screenplay based on his scripts.

He supervised the direction of Empire (everything had to be approved by him) and "ghost" directed Jedi.

/hate the fanboy obsession to rewrite history to deny Lucas proper credit for anything
 
2012-12-06 10:38:44 AM

snowshovel: Miss Stein: Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

This may be one of those situations where, if you have a penis, you won't "get it," or something.

I wasn't pleased with it either. It would have been better if the triplets had been taken away or put in grave danger, and Merida was the one who braved incredible odds and harrowing ordeals to bring them safe to the kingdom, instead of that touchy-feely mother/daughter crap they foisted on us.

I wouldn't have minded Brave so much if the moral of the story was "Both mom and daughter need to compromise a little."

Instead, we get an ending where mom let's the daughter be a tom-boy....without any scenes of the daughter also giving in a ruling like the princess her mom wants her to be.

In essence, the moral of the story is "put your parents through hell, and they'll give you what you want eventually."


The last scene shows the girl working on a tapestry with the mom. Seems that hints at.hrr.taking up that stuff more. There's also the part where they need to sneak the bear mom into the room but the lords are all fighting. Merida was about to choose a husband until the mom stops her with hand signals. So she was about to own her responsibility until she was stopped. I assume Mom does this because she realizes how self reliant Merida is and realizes early marriage would break that.

The movie wasn't about compromise, it was about understanding the people you love and where they're coming from in order to honor them.
 
2012-12-06 10:43:21 AM

verbaltoxin: Burr: verbaltoxin: I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult.

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/just because I have adult responsibilities now doesn't mean I need to stop enjoying childish things

And I've decided that means reading Ray Bradbury, drinking whiskey, home brewing beer, playing music, watching pro wrestling, and eating grilled, seasoned meats.

If you want to pay $10/head to watch digital bedtime stories, more power to you.


Jesus, get over yourself.

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2012-12-06 02:29:29 PM
Early on, someone interviewed Lassiter who said, "You're not going to spend 40 million on a lousy script." Simple as that.
 
2012-12-06 06:43:11 PM

rga184: verbaltoxin: Burr: verbaltoxin: I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult.

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/just because I have adult responsibilities now doesn't mean I need to stop enjoying childish things

And I've decided that means reading Ray Bradbury, drinking whiskey, home brewing beer, playing music, watching pro wrestling, and eating grilled, seasoned meats.

If you want to pay $10/head to watch digital bedtime stories, more power to you.

Jesus, get over yourself.

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I have serious doubts that 'verbaltoxin' is Jesus' Fark handle.
 
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