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2012-12-05 12:41:37 PM
For those you you complaining about Brave and how Pixar has deteriorated, go watch A Bugs Life.

/they go in cycles
//still better than 90% of what Hollywood usually poops out
 
2012-12-05 12:41:39 PM

factoryconnection: Tangled


Tangled is a good illustration of why Pixar is better than Disney. I thought it was OK -- the horse was funny -- but it wasn't a great movie at all. A good example of that difference is the music. At some point there's this break-it-down hip-hop beat or something, which totally breaks the "Renaissance" period mood of the movie. You can just see the corporate types asking each other "how can we jazzify this movie, make it more fresh and funky for the kids?"

Pretty lame stuff IMHO, and is exactly what Pixar avoids.
 
2012-12-05 12:42:30 PM
Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"
 
2012-12-05 12:44:18 PM
I should add that Pixar is generally good at making a movie in a new universe, telling a story, and then letting it drop. I'd love to see "The Incredibles 2" but there's no way it can match was was in the first movie. Toy Story 2 was okay, Toy Story 3 was good if you were older and could understand the themes. Haven't watched Cars 2.
 
2012-12-05 12:46:15 PM

enry: For those you you complaining about Brave and how Pixar has deteriorated, go watch A Bugs Life.

/they go in cycles
//still better than 90% of what Hollywood usually poops out


Aw... I liked A Bug's Life... Kinda like 7 Samurais with bugs...
 
2012-12-05 12:46:22 PM
Even their bad movies aren't bad.
 
2012-12-05 12:48:12 PM

NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"


animationreview.files.wordpress.com

You mean Czechoslovakia, right?
 
2012-12-05 12:52:04 PM

DeltaPunch: Tangled is a good illustration of why Pixar is better than Disney.


Wreck-It Ralph kind of came in and evened the odds a little bit. If it was a Pixar movie, I would put it somewhere in the top 10.
 
2012-12-05 12:53:20 PM

NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"


Am I a hipster if I never liked any of them?

I'll admit I haven't seen all or even most of them, but why would I after establishing that I don't like them?
 
2012-12-05 12:53:31 PM
Grown men arguing over kids movies, especially a "Disney Princess" movie, cracks me the fark up.

/my daughter LOVED Brave.
 
2012-12-05 12:54:47 PM

Cythraul: AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.

You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.


Talking dogs flying fighter planes. Seriously, what the shiat? I thought I was watching a Dreamworks movie.
 
2012-12-05 12:55:09 PM
I loved wreck it Ralph.
 
2012-12-05 12:57:27 PM
They're not good. They're formulaic to the point of self-parody, written by committee, designed to elicit emotional responses as coldly and clinically as a science experiment on a monkey's brain, and don't have a shred of authenticity or artistic value to them. Pixar movies are to American culture as Wal*Mart and Best Buy are to the retail shopping experience. They encourage nothing but mindless consumption and predictable, uninteresting and ultimately unfulfilling, hollow emotional experiences that substitute for real life in a way that is psychically damaging.

Plus Lightning McQueen is a douchebag. Seriously, think about it. He's a complete selfish tool and people around him not only put up with his shiat, they reward him for it and the ultimate lesson of the movie is that retards and hicks will do anything for you if you just act like enough of a dick to them.
 
2012-12-05 12:57:41 PM

enry: NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"

[animationreview.files.wordpress.com image 425x323]

You mean Czechoslovakia, right?


video580.vkadre.ru

My favorite is Worker and Parasite
 
2012-12-05 12:58:00 PM

theurge14: Cythraul: AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.

You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.

Talking dogs flying fighter planes. Seriously, what the shiat? I thought I was watching a Dreamworks movie.


You know what else is stupid? Talking mice.

I'm looking at you Mickey.

You too, Minnie.
 
2012-12-05 12:59:51 PM

DeltaPunch: Tangled is a good illustration of why Pixar is better than Disney. I thought it was OK -- the horse was funny -- but it wasn't a great movie at all. A good example of that difference is the music. At some point there's this break-it-down hip-hop beat or something, which totally breaks the "Renaissance" period mood of the movie. You can just see the corporate types asking each other "how can we jazzify this movie, make it more fresh and funky for the kids?"


That was pretty good.

Now do "Pampers vs. Huggies"

or "Similac vs. Infamil"

Kids everywhere are on pins and needles waiting on your insight.
 
2012-12-05 01:01:21 PM
The only thing I didn't like about Brave was that the will-o-wisps acted as a deus ex machina. Plus they're supposed to lead people to their death, not help them out.
 
2012-12-05 01:03:02 PM
Because they're not?
 
2012-12-05 01:10:08 PM
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2012-12-05 01:12:24 PM

Lionel Mandrake: enry: NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"

[animationreview.files.wordpress.com image 425x323]

You mean Czechoslovakia, right?

[video580.vkadre.ru image 320x240]

My favorite is Worker and Parasite


No love for Johannes Chimpo?

cf.juggle-images.com
 
2012-12-05 01:17:11 PM

enry: NuttierThanEver: Also I see that the Pixar backlash has begun. God you all sound like a bunch of hipsters. "I haven't really been into Pixar since The Incredibles, no I'm watching animation by a small studio in Uzbekistan. You've probably never heard of it"

[animationreview.files.wordpress.com image 425x323]

You mean Czechoslovakia, right?


Ye Gods those were awful cartoons. The sounds were otherworldly bad. How do you screw up a cat chasing a mouse?
 
2012-12-05 01:19:07 PM

Slow To Return: DeltaPunch: Tangled is a good illustration of why Pixar is better than Disney. I thought it was OK -- the horse was funny -- but it wasn't a great movie at all. A good example of that difference is the music. At some point there's this break-it-down hip-hop beat or something, which totally breaks the "Renaissance" period mood of the movie. You can just see the corporate types asking each other "how can we jazzify this movie, make it more fresh and funky for the kids?"

That was pretty good.

Now do "Pampers vs. Huggies"

or "Similac vs. Infamil"

Kids everywhere are on pins and needles waiting on your insight.


So you waltz into a thread where everyone is talking about Disney/Pixar movies and proceed to post three separate comments berating the fact that adults are talking about kids movies?

What cracks ME up is that you have a daughter. Somewhere, there's a little girl whose father goes online and acts like a dick on anonymous website forums... what a role model you are!
 
2012-12-05 01:25:38 PM

ManateeGag: Elandriel: Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...

Toy Story 3 was a little heavy for little kids though.


That was the glory of it, though. It was written for the people who saw Toy Story 1 in theaters.
 
2012-12-05 01:26:31 PM
Wreck It Ralph was awesome.

/Brave = meh.
//Cars 2 = punishment for bad kids to be viewed while they're in time out.
 
2012-12-05 01:29:47 PM

willfullyobscure: Plus Lightning McQueen is a douchebag. Seriously, think about it. He's a complete selfish tool and people around him not only put up with his shiat, they reward him for it and the ultimate lesson of the movie is that retards and hicks will do anything for you if you just act like enough of a dick to them.


OR.... The people around him make him atone for his dickishness (buy building a road), and his time spent with them makes him reconsider his behaviour, resulting in friendships with them, his turning down the big money for loyalty, and his moving to live with them, while the town prospers.

Seriously, did you watch a different movie? Or did you maybe think Lightning McQueen was the Green car?
 
2012-12-05 01:29:49 PM
Other than not being a huge fan of Cars and Ratatouille churning my stomach when I watch it, I think Pixar far and away makes the best kids movies that are watchable as an adult. I have 3 yr old twins and about the only pixar movie they won't watch is UP. I'm just glad there's a nice range of movies that aren't completely objectionable to have on in the background.

If you ask me which Pixar movies I really like, I'd have to say Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc. and UP. I personally love the talking dogs in the fighter planes.

/squirrel!
 
2012-12-05 01:31:34 PM

Miss Stein: Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

This may be one of those situations where, if you have a penis, you won't "get it," or something.

I wasn't pleased with it either. It would have been better if the triplets had been taken away or put in grave danger, and Merida was the one who braved incredible odds and harrowing ordeals to bring them safe to the kingdom, instead of that touchy-feely mother/daughter crap they foisted on us.


I wouldn't have minded Brave so much if the moral of the story was "Both mom and daughter need to compromise a little."

Instead, we get an ending where mom let's the daughter be a tom-boy....without any scenes of the daughter also giving in a ruling like the princess her mom wants her to be.

In essence, the moral of the story is "put your parents through hell, and they'll give you what you want eventually."
 
2012-12-05 01:38:21 PM

Hebalo: willfullyobscure: Plus Lightning McQueen is a douchebag. Seriously, think about it. He's a complete selfish tool and people around him not only put up with his shiat, they reward him for it and the ultimate lesson of the movie is that retards and hicks will do anything for you if you just act like enough of a dick to them.

OR.... The people around him make him atone for his dickishness (buy building a road), and his time spent with them makes him reconsider his behaviour, resulting in friendships with them, his turning down the big money for loyalty, and his moving to live with them, while the town prospers.

Seriously, did you watch a different movie? Or did you maybe think Lightning McQueen was the Green car?


He repaved the road that he tore up while running from the cops

And nothing suggests that he helped revive the town. Unless he knows how to refill neon tubes, get electricity going, etc. He only spent time with them, first to get the interest of the chick character, and then the rest after having some shallow, pasted on coming to God moment.
 
2012-12-05 01:43:48 PM

RidgeRunner5: He repaved the road that he tore up while running from the cops

And nothing suggests that he helped revive the town. Unless he knows how to refill neon tubes, get electricity going, etc. He only spent time with them, first to get the interest of the chick character, and then the rest after having some shallow, pasted on coming to God moment.



Yes, but his sentence was to repave the road, which he did, he redeemed himself. First, he did a shiatty, self involved job of it. Then he went back and did it properly. But the point stands that through the punishment, he became a better car.

And yes, at first his intentions were selfish, but that changes as he spent time with them. And he revived the town by moving his headquarters there, and by talking them up in his interviews. At the end of the film, the town is bustling with traffic. That doesn't happen without him.

/ Am I the only one who pays attention?
 
2012-12-05 01:45:25 PM

BizarreMan: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

OMG that sequence was off the charts win. In a rip your heart out, chew it up, spit it out, and throw it on the ground sort way. If you can sit through it without tearing up, you have no soul.


When I saw it in the theater, when if fades to black at the end of the scene there was complete silence. Not a single sound being made. Then some little kid turned to his parents and you hear "Is it over?". Needless to say a chuckle broke out and the spell was broken.
 
2012-12-05 01:52:15 PM
I thought Brave was "meh," but I later realized these are kids' movies. I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult. So I haven't bothered to see a Wreck-It Ralph or whatever since. When I have kids I'll be subjected to that stuff all over, but for now, give me something with cussing, tits and blood in it.
 
2012-12-05 01:52:33 PM
I just checked it: Wreck-It Ralph was a Disney film, not a Pixar one. This surprised me, as in terms of animation and writing quality, it easily looked like Pixar material.
 
2012-12-05 01:52:58 PM

RidgeRunner5: Hebalo: willfullyobscure: Plus Lightning McQueen is a douchebag. Seriously, think about it. He's a complete selfish tool and people around him not only put up with his shiat, they reward him for it and the ultimate lesson of the movie is that retards and hicks will do anything for you if you just act like enough of a dick to them.

OR.... The people around him make him atone for his dickishness (buy building a road), and his time spent with them makes him reconsider his behaviour, resulting in friendships with them, his turning down the big money for loyalty, and his moving to live with them, while the town prospers.

Seriously, did you watch a different movie? Or did you maybe think Lightning McQueen was the Green car?

He repaved the road that he tore up while running from the cops

And nothing suggests that he helped revive the town. Unless he knows how to refill neon tubes, get electricity going, etc. He only spent time with them, first to get the interest of the chick character, and then the rest after having some shallow, pasted on coming to God moment.


You seriously need to watch "Doc Hollywood", and realize that Cars is a direct copy. At least Michael J Fox is believable why he adopts the town.
 
2012-12-05 01:55:14 PM

Klaumbaz: RidgeRunner5: Hebalo: willfullyobscure: Plus Lightning McQueen is a douchebag. Seriously, think about it. He's a complete selfish tool and people around him not only put up with his shiat, they reward him for it and the ultimate lesson of the movie is that retards and hicks will do anything for you if you just act like enough of a dick to them.

OR.... The people around him make him atone for his dickishness (buy building a road), and his time spent with them makes him reconsider his behaviour, resulting in friendships with them, his turning down the big money for loyalty, and his moving to live with them, while the town prospers.

Seriously, did you watch a different movie? Or did you maybe think Lightning McQueen was the Green car?

He repaved the road that he tore up while running from the cops

And nothing suggests that he helped revive the town. Unless he knows how to refill neon tubes, get electricity going, etc. He only spent time with them, first to get the interest of the chick character, and then the rest after having some shallow, pasted on coming to God moment.

You seriously need to watch "Doc Hollywood", and realize that Cars is a direct copy. At least Michael J Fox is believable why he adopts the town.


Doc Hollywood, now there's one I haven't watched in ages. Time to check Amazon VOD. *Bam* in the wishlist it goes.
 
2012-12-05 01:57:39 PM
Finding Nemo has been showing on cable lately and damn if that's not one of the most beautiful-looking animated movies I've ever seen. The detail is just stunning.

/Excellent story, too.
 
2012-12-05 02:02:18 PM

Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.


That's probably because Americans wouldn't be able to understand them if they used their native accent.
 
2012-12-05 02:04:21 PM

factoryconnection: Tangled (not Pixar)


I couldn't finish Tangled. First musical number and I ejected the DVD and sent it back to Netflix. Why does Disney keep doing that?
 
2012-12-05 02:05:15 PM

FriarED1: Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.

That's probably because Americans wouldn't be able to understand them if they used their native accent.


Hell, southern yanks have confused my Canuckian accent as Scottish - or Irish ("Which one of them countries has dudes in dresses?").
 
2012-12-05 02:06:30 PM
There are only two Pixar movies I didn't like: Ratatouille and Cars 2. Cars 2 was a shameless money grab that should have been a direct to DVD dump. Rat never grabbed me. I didn't give a wet crap about anyone in the movie.
 
2012-12-05 02:06:33 PM

verbaltoxin: I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult.


imgs.xkcd.com

/just because I have adult responsibilities now doesn't mean I need to stop enjoying childish things
 
2012-12-05 02:07:16 PM

snowshovel: I wouldn't have minded Brave so much if the moral of the story was "Both mom and daughter need to compromise a little."

Instead, we get an ending where mom let's the daughter be a tom-boy....without any scenes of the daughter also giving in a ruling like the princess her mom wants her to be.

In essence, the moral of the story is "put your parents through hell, and they'll give you what you want eventually."


The movie should have ended with the rival clans sacking the castle and burning everything down after realizing that everyone was being cut out of the action through the lack of a political marriage.
 
2012-12-05 02:07:59 PM
For the longest time Pixar's secret was in NOT doing things.

Then they started making sequels and it all went to shiat.
 
2012-12-05 02:09:36 PM

oldfarthenry: FriarED1: Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.

That's probably because Americans wouldn't be able to understand them if they used their native accent.

Hell, southern yanks have confused my Canuckian accent as Scottish - or Irish ("Which one of them countries has dudes in dresses?").


By 'southern yank,' I guess you mean Americans from the cultural region known as 'the south?' I've never had a problem with Canadian accents. I usually can't tell the difference from a Canadian accent and an American accent, unless they say a word like 'about.'

The exceptions to that would be the Newfie and Quebec accents.
 
2012-12-05 02:13:18 PM
I just saw Brave for the first time last weekend. I thought it was pretty bad as far as Pixar movies go.
 
2012-12-05 02:18:37 PM

Burr: verbaltoxin: I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 700x231]

/just because I have adult responsibilities now doesn't mean I need to stop enjoying childish things


And I've decided that means reading Ray Bradbury, drinking whiskey, home brewing beer, playing music, watching pro wrestling, and eating grilled, seasoned meats.

If you want to pay $10/head to watch digital bedtime stories, more power to you.
 
2012-12-05 02:20:38 PM
Because they require that all their stories be told in a Hero's Story format, subby.
 
2012-12-05 02:26:02 PM

verbaltoxin: Burr: verbaltoxin: I shouldn't be sitting in a theater watching kids' movies, I'm an adult.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 700x231]

/just because I have adult responsibilities now doesn't mean I need to stop enjoying childish things

And I've decided that means reading Ray Bradbury, drinking whiskey, home brewing beer, playing music, watching pro wrestling, and eating grilled, seasoned meats.

If you want to pay $10/head to watch digital bedtime stories, more power to you.


What a big boy you are!
 
2012-12-05 02:29:38 PM

bdub77: Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

Your wife is probably a lesbian.


whatculture.com

Agrees.

/hotter than a old timer hockey scrum
 
2012-12-05 02:32:16 PM

Slow To Return: Grown men arguing over kids movies, especially a "Disney Princess" movie, cracks me the fark up.


Don't make me start summoning Bronies. I'll do it! I swear I will!
 
2012-12-05 02:32:39 PM

verbaltoxin: And I've decided that means reading Ray Bradbury, drinking whiskey, home brewing beer, playing music, watching pro wrestling, and eating grilled, seasoned meats.


More power to you. I have decided that means drinking whiskey, gardening, grilling, watching football, fixing cars, creating computer programs, playing video games, watching cartoons, and whatever else I want do...because I could care less if somebody thinks its "childish" or not. If you want to hang on to some abstract notion of "adult entertainment" then it is your loss. I on the other hand will enjoy life to it's fullest.

Also...

verbaltoxin: watching pro wrestling


...speaking of "digital bedtime stories"
 
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