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2012-12-05 09:32:14 AM  
MSG?
 
2012-12-05 09:33:58 AM  
Secret - they haven't been in a few years.
 
2012-12-05 09:37:05 AM  
Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.
 
2012-12-05 09:38:19 AM  

Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.


Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".
 
2012-12-05 09:42:42 AM  

DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".


That's a shame. Before Cars 2, I don't think there was a single Pixar film that I didn't at least 'like a lot,' if not 'love.'

Who do we blame for this? I blame Disney. They're convenient.
 
2012-12-05 10:27:45 AM  
Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...
 
2012-12-05 10:31:28 AM  
UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.
 
2012-12-05 10:33:09 AM  

Elandriel: Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...


Toy Story 3 was a little heavy for little kids though.
 
2012-12-05 10:43:34 AM  

ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.


Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.
 
2012-12-05 10:43:46 AM  

Elandriel: Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...


Maybe it's a rather simple explanation? Not every artist stays in their prime forever, ya know. It could just be that the muse has started to get bored and has fled back to Arcadia.
 
2012-12-05 10:44:28 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.


You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.
 
2012-12-05 10:46:14 AM  

Cythraul: AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.

You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.


Too much action for action's sake. Lame deus ex machina conclusion. Boring talking dog subplot.
 
2012-12-05 10:59:32 AM  

DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".


My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

This may be one of those situations where, if you have a penis, you won't "get it," or something.
 
2012-12-05 10:59:56 AM  

ManateeGag: Toy Story 3 was a little heavy for little kids though.

Yeah I think the movie was actually more aimed toward the people who were kids when watching Toy Story and "grew up with the franchise". So, heading off to college or whatever, here's a much heavier story with much more adult themes as a send-off of sorts.

Cythraul: Maybe it's a rather simple explanation? Not every artist stays in their prime forever, ya know. It could just be that the muse has started to get bored and has fled back to Arcadia.

Very possible.
 
2012-12-05 11:29:57 AM  

Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

This may be one of those situations where, if you have a penis, you won't "get it," or something.


I wasn't pleased with it either. It would have been better if the triplets had been taken away or put in grave danger, and Merida was the one who braved incredible odds and harrowing ordeals to bring them safe to the kingdom, instead of that touchy-feely mother/daughter crap they foisted on us.
 
2012-12-05 11:40:36 AM  

Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.


Your wife is probably a lesbian.
 
2012-12-05 11:53:03 AM  
Great Writing.

reads long article
Details?
Meh, My version of the article is better and a lot less worry.
 
2012-12-05 11:55:13 AM  
I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.
 
2012-12-05 11:55:29 AM  

bdub77: Shostie: DamnYankees: Cythraul: Brave has been released?! I was wondering what was taking them so long. Was it any good? I was hoping after what I heard about Cars 2, Brave would be awesome.

Its not. Brave is the very apex of "eh, its ok".

My wife really liked it. I haven't gotten around to seeing it.

Your wife is probably a lesbian.


Go on...
 
2012-12-05 11:58:12 AM  

DamnYankees: Secret - they haven't been in a few years.


Except for Toy Story 3, you mean. In fact, they've released six films in the last five years of which one was bad (Cars 2) and one was middling (Brave), the rest being generally regarded as excellent. I'm sure you will say "a few" means "two" thus preserving your correctness.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:01 AM  

r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.


I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:20 AM  
Brave is a great movie if you shut it off the second Merida's arrow hits the target.

If you continue watching it quickly goes from a girl who kicks ass to a whiny child with mommy issues.
 
2012-12-05 12:02:54 PM  
The scripts. When they're good, they're very, very good.
 
2012-12-05 12:03:53 PM  

Cythraul: AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.

You didn't like the rest of UP? Why? I thought it was good.


Two words: Talking. Dogs.
 
2012-12-05 12:06:13 PM  

Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.


The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger
 
2012-12-05 12:08:20 PM  

moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger


Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.
 
2012-12-05 12:08:46 PM  

factoryconnection: DamnYankees: Secret - they haven't been in a few years.

Except for Toy Story 3, you mean. In fact, they've released six films in the last five years of which one was bad (Cars 2) and one was middling (Brave), the rest being generally regarded as excellent. I'm sure you will say "a few" means "two" thus preserving your correctness.


Ratatouille was a terrible bog-standard kids movie. Toy Story 3 had the same plot as Toy Story 2.
 
2012-12-05 12:09:29 PM  
Story. Pacing. Art work. Acting.

All of these used to be what made Pixar movies good. I think marketing is the only that makes Pixar movies good anymore.

/all right....maybe just a little troll in there but when they were good...oh my...and Wall-E was very enjoyable
 
2012-12-05 12:09:40 PM  

Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.


So you're proudly repeating nonsense?
 
2012-12-05 12:10:12 PM  
Why are they good:
1. Good writing, in that there is a solid base story, witty dialogue, and multi-level humor without being cheap (See: Shrek fart jokes)
2. Excellent voice acting, and not because they're doing silly voices, but also because the actors are playing roles not themselves. (See: Bee Movie for Jerry Seinfeld and Patrick Warburton playing basically their Seinfeld characters)
3. Starting with a good movie before making it a kids' movie/product tie-in. This was Cars 2's major downfall: they focused on the most marketable toy and added a bunch of other products to hawk in the movie.
4. Stunning visuals and attention to detail, which gives parents subjected to endless re-watches more to appreciate.

And that's why, as a parent I don't mind re-watching any Toy Story or How to Train Your Dragon (not Pixar) or Tangled (not Pixar) but other movies just grind my freaking gears and are removed from the rotation.
 
2012-12-05 12:10:35 PM  

ManateeGag: Elandriel: Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...

Toy Story 3 was a little heavy for little kids though.


I don't think you're giving little kids enough credit. They deserve to be left weeping uncontrollably at the end of the movie just like the rest of us.
 
2012-12-05 12:11:28 PM  

Cythraul: I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.


I just watched Pierce Brosnan's Robinson Curusoe from 1997. For an Irish/Englishman, that was a painfully bad Scottish accent.

Anyway, Pixar hires minimally competant writers, but that's still better than Dreamworks, which doesn't seem to hire writers at all. I don't know why anyone would greenlight a 100 million dollar movie without a great script.
 
2012-12-05 12:13:38 PM  
I figured the problem with Brave revolved around switching directors mid-stream, with both directors having different visions and a looming deadline that forced them to hammer out a haphazard story.
 
2012-12-05 12:15:04 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.

Too bad there was an entire movie after that opening sequence. That kind of ruined the whole thing.


This. Everybody loves UP, but that's the only scene they remember. The animation and voice acting (namely, Ed Asner) was up to Pixar standards, but the story was boring.
 
2012-12-05 12:15:35 PM  
Um...because they're mostly well-written, well-animated, well-produced, well-directed, and well-acted?
 
2012-12-05 12:17:09 PM  

moothemagiccow: Cythraul: moothemagiccow: Cythraul: r1niceboy: I liked Brave, mind you I am Scottish, so got all the inside jokes.

I kept reading how a lot of Scots couldn't watch the film because the accents made them cringe.

The king was billy connolly, a scot, and merida was a scot, kelly mcdonald. Most of the main cast were Scottish. The remainders were British apart from John Ratzenberger

Yeah, but I heard somewhere that they were asked to alter their accents to fit more of what Americans think the Scottish accent should be. These are just forum rumors I'm repeating, by the way.

So you're proudly repeating nonsense?


Umm, no. I've heard of instances where American southern actors were asked to 'redneckify' their accents for a film because they didn't sound 'southern enough.'

So, in this instance, it could be possible.
 
2012-12-05 12:19:13 PM  

ManateeGag: UP told a more compelling story in that opening sequence between Carl and Ellie than the entirety of the Twilight Series.


OMG that sequence was off the charts win. In a rip your heart out, chew it up, spit it out, and throw it on the ground sort way. If you can sit through it without tearing up, you have no soul.
 
2012-12-05 12:21:06 PM  
I don't understand the usage of "toe that line" in the last question. It doesn't make any sense.
 
2012-12-05 12:21:57 PM  
I thought Brave was all right, but my wife absolutely loved it. I have to give them credit, it's the kind of film that I've never seen before, focusing so much on the Mother/Daughter bond. It was a bold move, and white it didn't resonate with me, props to them for taking a chance. And not just remaking Mulan.

Of course, the animated film that got me this year was Wreck It Ralph. Saw that movie twice and both times it got me in a way that Pixar really hasn't the past few years. When a movie makes me laugh out loud and tear up in the same minute, it's a great film. (Even the short at the beginning, with the paper airplanes, was utterly fantastic and right up there with any Pixar short.) I really want to see Wreck It Ralph win best animated film next year at the Oscars.

I am a bit nervous about the Monsters Inc. Prequel. It's going to be cute and funny, but can they really top the emotional climax of the first one? Will they be able to match the absolute emotional awesome that is the final moment when Sully peeks his head in the door? It still gets me every time.
 
2012-12-05 12:22:51 PM  

kumanoki: ManateeGag: Elandriel: Their writing staff appears to have taken a hit of some kind. Toy Story 3 for example was ridiculously good. Lately though their stories have been much more...uninspiring...

Toy Story 3 was a little heavy for little kids though.

I don't think you're giving little kids enough credit. They deserve to be left weeping uncontrollably at the end of the movie just like the rest of us.


But little kids won't be. They don't have the frame of reference for the ending to have that impact. Adults, and older kids, sure. But your average 4 year old won't be getting a lump in their throat.
 
2012-12-05 12:27:35 PM  

moothemagiccow: Toy Story 3 had the same plot as Toy Story 2.


Wow, I missed the Toy Store, evil toy owner, and airplane sequences in Toy Story 3. Not to mention the inner workings of the daycare in Toy Story 2.

Do you actually pay attention to the films, or just spout nonsense after having them on in the background?

WAIT! I'm overreacting, there were characters that were in both films. That, they had in common.
 
2012-12-05 12:28:00 PM  
soporific: Will they be able to match the absolute emotional awesome that is the final moment when Sully peeks his head in the door? It still gets me every time.

"Kitty!"

/choked up just typing that
 
2012-12-05 12:28:18 PM  
I'll say one thing about Brave. We just got back from Disney World (I have three daughters) and the "cast members" they have signed up to play Princess Merida with the redhair? Daddy likey very much

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2012-12-05 12:30:33 PM  
Brave is good for a Disney movie, but not as a Pixar movie.

I have high hopes for Monsters University.
 
2012-12-05 12:34:27 PM  
Wreck-it Ralph > Brave
 
2012-12-05 12:35:56 PM  
Good? They jump the shark in every single one of their movies. Its like they started animating, realizing their idea will last about 30 minutes of screen time, and so they have to turn the plot on it head....
 
2012-12-05 12:39:25 PM  
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It's all finished and now sits in my office.
 
2012-12-05 12:39:46 PM  

Hebalo: Do you actually pay attention to the films, or just spout nonsense after having them on in the background?


We must have also missed the over-arching theme in Toy Story 2 of Andy moving on with his life without his toys. Oh, wait... that didn't happen either. Maybe you're on to something.

I've seen those movies WAAAAAY too many times to let that stupid-assed comment slide.
 
2012-12-05 12:40:53 PM  
Pixar movies: "it would be cool to see these actors in a LIVE ACTION something together---instead they did this."
 
2012-12-05 12:41:14 PM  

iggyskuz: Wreck-it Ralph > Brave


I haven't seen Brave yet, but damn Wreck-it Ralph was a good movie.
 
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