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(Quad City Times)   Deer season is over in Iowa, and the final numbers are in: hunters managed to bag 60,000 deer, 4 hunters   (qctimes.com) divider line 148
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2012-12-05 11:59:12 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Barricaded Gunman: many, many of them were already visibly drunk

Well, in their defense, they were probably "still drunk" not "already drunk".


I've seen a lot of drunk hunters in my time, even though getting caught hunting while drunk will get you cuffed and hauled off to jail in this state (well, used to anyway). I used to hunt - mostly quail. We always took a flask with us, but left it in the truck. Having a couple was something we did after the guns were put away. Guns and booze just don't mix.
 
2012-12-05 12:01:14 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: The gun-on-shoulder thing might have been an anti-theft measure (instead of leaving the guns visible in the vehicle).


Yep.
 
2012-12-05 12:02:55 PM  
Safer:

www.wtsp.com
 
2012-12-05 12:04:44 PM  

JackieRabbit: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Barricaded Gunman: many, many of them were already visibly drunk

Well, in their defense, they were probably "still drunk" not "already drunk".

I've seen a lot of drunk hunters in my time, even though getting caught hunting while drunk will get you cuffed and hauled off to jail in this state (well, used to anyway). I used to hunt - mostly quail. We always took a flask with us, but left it in the truck. Having a couple was something we did after the guns were put away. Guns and booze just don't mix.


Back when I did hunt with my uncles and cousins there were two groups. The sitters and stalkers. I would stalk, actually get out there and try and trail the deer/turkey/bear. Tougher but so much more fun. The sitters were just that, sit and wait. Every one of them had their mason jars and spam and egg sandwiches for breakfast.

Am surprised that only one of them ended up dead.

/why yes, that side of the family is as red as clay how could you tell?
 
2012-12-05 12:08:32 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Oh great. Now who are the antelope going to play with?


Keep your discouraging words to yourself...
 
2012-12-05 12:09:17 PM  

UDel_Kitty: What are the rules on hunting? Only allowed to shoot a certain size?


I think in Illinois it depends on the tag you get. But I guess I was making a reference to him shooting fawns. I had to ask my office mate (who is an avid hunter). He said that hunting season is set so that the chances of shooting a fawn are pretty slim.
 
2012-12-05 12:10:16 PM  

Burr: Shotgun: 10-gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition). Shotguns cannot be capable of holding more than three shells.


So...are there many triple-barreled shotguns there?

Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger

I've never seen a muzzleloading rifle with a caliber smaller than .38.
 
2012-12-05 12:11:04 PM  

Tyrone Biggums: UDel_Kitty: What are the rules on hunting? Only allowed to shoot a certain size?

I think in Illinois it depends on the tag you get. But I guess I was making a reference to him shooting fawns. I had to ask my office mate (who is an avid hunter). He said that hunting season is set so that the chances of shooting a fawn are pretty slim.


Them avids are good eatin'
 
2012-12-05 12:13:52 PM  

blunto: Why does it seem that fark so anti hunting? It's a strange viewpoint from people who mainly live in cities and sit at a desk all day.


Not really, a lot of the uninitiated think hunting is just about getting beer'd up and killing defenseless animals for the hell of it..."Dumb Shiat Rednecks Do"...
 
2012-12-05 12:14:21 PM  

Tyrone Biggums: I think in Illinois it depends on the tag you get. But I guess I was making a reference to him shooting fawns. I had to ask my office mate (who is an avid hunter). He said that hunting season is set so that the chances of shooting a fawn are pretty slim.


I was just curious in general. I figured the younger the deer, the harder to hit, especially fawns. I just didn't know if there were laws about the size of a deer you could target.
 
2012-12-05 12:25:32 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: So...are there many triple-barreled shotguns there?


They were called "drillings" and typically had a rifle barrel underneath and between the side by side shotgun barrels. I know that's not exactly what you wanted to know but I always thought they were pretty cool.
 
2012-12-05 12:27:40 PM  

BronyMedic: danielscissorhands: ChipNASA: Pussies,
I hunt deer with my bear hands and a knife. Mano a Mano. That's the only way to do it. I like to feel them quiver and strain when I wrestle them to the ground and then bend them back and plunge the blade *deep* in to their necks...twisting to ensure I sever the spinal cord and feeling them take their last breaths and then feeling their lungs deflate like a children's balloon when you stop pinching the neck. And not of those fancy plastic tools to remove the anus when you're field dressing your game. I like to do that with my bare hands. One finger....then two....then my entire hand. Mmmmm.
Just the though arouses me.
/good times, good times.

How did you come to have bear hands?

He cut them off the bear that took his precious baby's life in the first few hours of his existence.

See, ChipNASA was not always a bloodthirsty hunter of bears. Until one took the life of Quinn.

[img214.imageshack.us image 648x484]

This is Quinn. He sets atop ChipNASA's baby grand piano, in a tasteful interior decorating display. He is a constant reminder of the reason why he has a bloodlust for ursine creatures.


orsonwellesclap.jpg
 
2012-12-05 12:28:00 PM  

UDel_Kitty: Tyrone Biggums: I think in Illinois it depends on the tag you get. But I guess I was making a reference to him shooting fawns. I had to ask my office mate (who is an avid hunter). He said that hunting season is set so that the chances of shooting a fawn are pretty slim.

I was just curious in general. I figured the younger the deer, the harder to hit, especially fawns. I just didn't know if there were laws about the size of a deer you could target.


Hunter here...not really laws on the size of deer, but some areas have doe-only (or in some cases, buck-only) tags, where you can't shoot anything else. Where I hunt, the first deer can be either a doe or buck, and after your first buck, you have to "earn" another buck tag by first shooting a doe. That said, this year I passed up 4 doe on opening morning, simply because they were pretty small. There wouldn't be enough good meat to make it worth it, so I simply didn't shoot. I also passed up a 6-point buck.

Of course, now I have some regret since I didn't see any sizeable doe the rest of the season...oh well...
 
2012-12-05 12:29:32 PM  

duenor: and because it kicks hard you are much less likely to get people making reckless rapid shots (or so the theory goes).


This theory does not take my Knoxx Blackhawk SpecOps stock into account. I love that thing.
 
2012-12-05 12:48:23 PM  
Alright, stupid question from a non-hunter: doesn't the neon orange cap/vest defeat the purpose of the camo? Or can deer not see orange or something?
 
2012-12-05 01:04:12 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Alright, stupid question from a non-hunter: doesn't the neon orange cap/vest defeat the purpose of the camo? Or can deer not see orange or something?


The deer will smell you long before it sees you. Or hear you. They have an incredibly acute hearing. A couple of weeks ago, I walked to my front door and saw a herd of deer out in the pasture across foraging. They were a good 2000 feet away. I quietly turned the door know and opened the door. All heads came up and fixed on my location. Had I made anymore noise, they would have bolted.
 
2012-12-05 01:08:10 PM  

jayhawk88: Basically you pack a shotgun shell with one big metal slug rather than a bunch of little ones. Less range than high power rifles is the idea, supposedly safer, but I guess I'm not seeing why this is such a concern in Iowa of all places.


more deer in city limits than out

also a lot of bow hunting.
 
2012-12-05 01:08:48 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Burr: Shotgun: 10-gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition). Shotguns cannot be capable of holding more than three shells.

So...are there many triple-barreled shotguns there?

Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger

I've never seen a muzzleloading rifle with a caliber smaller than .38.


They're generally called squirrel rifles. Mine is about a .32:

i100.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 01:09:08 PM  
Has anyone made the Bear Arms joke yet? That's one that just doesn't get old
 
2012-12-05 01:11:03 PM  
Inquiring minds want to know: Did the 4 injured hunters, themselves bag any deer?
 
2012-12-05 01:18:33 PM  

Burr: Like I said above, every year during deer season I have to call the game warden to report either poachers, trespassers, or spot lighters at least once. Most of the time it seems to be some out of state asshole (Usually Michigan, runner up of New York).


Really? Folks from Michigan go all the way to Ohio to be assholes on someone else's land? There are enough of them raising hell on my land and other local farms that I didn't think there were any left to export. Must be a more widespread disease than I thought!
 
2012-12-05 01:24:19 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: I've never seen a muzzleloading rifle with a caliber smaller than .38.


Don't get out much?

Golden Age flintlock longrifle kit in .36" caliber.

Classic Tennessee longrifle kit in .36" caliber.

Pedersoli flintlock Pennsylvania rifle - .32" caliber.

The smaller .36 and .32 caliber muzzleloaders are generally either target or small game guns. You wouldn't take a .30-30 to hunt rabbits or squirrels, so you wouldn't take a .50 caliber muzzleloader to do the same.
 
2012-12-05 01:27:29 PM  

JesseL: They're generally called squirrel rifles. Mine is about a .32:


Nice, though I'm more of a flintlock kind of guy myself:

i54.tinypic.com

My gun (.54" caliber transitional longrifle), and the "gun that shall be mine", a .62" caliber Baker rifle.
 
2012-12-05 01:37:00 PM  

Mr. Right: Folks from Michigan go all the way to Ohio to be assholes on someone else's land?


Not just Ohio, but all the way to the opposite corner of Ohio.

Granted, I'm sure there are Ohio assholes out there as well, but it just seems that is more then likely somebody from Michigan when I run into general douchebaggery during deer season.
 
2012-12-05 01:47:25 PM  
I can't believe some people are trying to bring back the babyquarium. And it's a hunting thread, so

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-12-05 01:47:27 PM  
Hmmm

i.imgur.com

www.rand.org 

www.esreality.com
 
2012-12-05 01:53:17 PM  

clane: Hmmm

[i.imgur.com image 750x518]

[www.rand.org image 700x504] 

[www.esreality.com image 328x421]


Which of these graphics did you fap to?
 
2012-12-05 01:53:49 PM  

JesseL: They're generally called squirrel rifles. Mine is about a .32:


that's a pretty gun. is the stock tiger maple?
 
2012-12-05 01:54:24 PM  

JackieRabbit: clane: Hmmm

[i.imgur.com image 750x518]

[www.rand.org image 700x504] 

[www.esreality.com image 328x421]

Which of these graphics did you fap to?


Yes
 
2012-12-05 02:05:53 PM  

JackieRabbit: clane: Hmmm

[i.imgur.com image 750x518]

[www.rand.org image 700x504] 

[www.esreality.com image 328x421]

Which of these graphics did you fap to?


sorry it took me so long to reply, i had to set my gun down and go look up fap.
 
2012-12-05 02:11:46 PM  

Loaf's Tray: indarwinsshadow: Oh great. Now who are the antelope going to play with?

Keep your discouraging words to yourself...


But, it's cloudy today.
 
2012-12-05 02:32:50 PM  

Tyrone Biggums: pute kisses like a man: so, i know people who hunt. someday i'll ask to come along, just for fun. I have no problem with hunting, nor do i have a problem with dressing/butchering an animal.

but, here's what I've noticed that's actually important. hunters like the big fancy deers. that's great for them. but, all those bucks are old. their meat sucks. basically only good for sausage or stew.

sometime recently, i knew this guy who shot a very young deer because it was destroying crops on his farm. he brought it over and cooked it up and it was farking amazing. it was the veal version of deer. great flavor, but the softness and tenderness of a baby lamb. it was awesome.

so, if i went hunting, i would pursue the youngest deer. afterall, my trophy case is in my belly.

Do that and I am sure your local DNR officer would have some words with you.


i figured there were rules about what to shot. i'm not a hunter, so i just spoke from a hypothetical position on the superior taste of younger venison.

and, i probably won't go hunting anyways. seems like too much time and trouble for food that's only mediocre. i'll stick to fishing (or try hunting birds, they always taste good)
 
2012-12-05 02:34:49 PM  

FlashHarry: JesseL: They're generally called squirrel rifles. Mine is about a .32:

that's a pretty gun. is the stock tiger maple?


Thanks, and yes.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:13 PM  

pute kisses like a man: figured there were rules about what to shot. i'm not a hunter, so i just spoke from a hypothetical position on the superior taste of younger venison.


The younger venision may be somewhat better but it is typically not sifnificant unless you shoot a real old deer. However, the yield is much less. A yearling spike or forkie mulie will get you typically about 30 pounds of meat. A 3 or 4 year old buck will get you about 55 to 60 pounds while the taste/texture is not that much different.

The trick if you want good meat is typically not shoot them in the rut. We don't have to worry about that here in Idaho. Our general deer season was over a month and a half ago.
 
2012-12-05 03:05:11 PM  

HeadLever


The trick if you want good meat is typically not shoot them in the rut.


As everyone knows, the rut is a very painful place to get shot.
 
2012-12-05 03:37:49 PM  

FlashHarry: and that's with slugs. no rifles in iowa.


WTF?

Please 'splain.
 
2012-12-05 03:47:28 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: FlashHarry: and that's with slugs. no rifles in iowa.

WTF?

Please 'splain.


Stop it. This is now a muzzleloader thread.

Another pic of the "gun that shall be mine":

i51.tinypic.com

Another of the gun that is mine:

img96.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-05 04:15:03 PM  
bookmark for later.
 
2012-12-05 04:22:43 PM  
What! No pics of the pilot shot as a deer from Hot Shots. For shame for shame. It still cracks me up when the one pilot, kid from the family who shot the pilot, told the son of the pilot that he didn't have seconds.
 
2012-12-05 04:34:40 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: HeadLever

The trick if you want good meat is typically not shoot them in the rut.


As everyone knows, the rut is a very painful place to get shot.


And before you ask, the rut hormones make the meat rancid. Nasty tasting.

But before/after rut (mating season) the hormones go to normal, and the meat is fine.
 
2012-12-05 05:43:32 PM  

kroonermanblack


And before you ask, the rut hormones make the meat rancid. Nasty tasting.

But before/after rut (mating season) the hormones go to normal, and the meat is fine.


I wasn't going to ask, because I know what the rut is.

The taste of the meat will also be affected by the deer's diet, the amount of adrenaline in the bloodstream (if the hunter did a poor job and the deer ran for a while before dying), and whether the carcass was drained of blood immediately post-kill.
 
2012-12-05 07:10:47 PM  

Burr: Englebert Slaptyback: Barricaded Gunman

For reasons I never understood, most of these guys carried their rifles into the store, slung casually over their shoulders like IDF girls at a Tel Aviv disco, and many, many of them were already visibly drunk.


The gun-on-shoulder thing might have been an anti-theft measure (instead of leaving the guns visible in the vehicle).

No idea about the drunkitude, though. That just sounds like a bad idea.

Also, more then likely the guns weren't loaded. Also, in fairness, they are more likely to kill somebody with their car while drunk then with their gun.

/but yeah, drinking and guns are a bad idea


Begs to differ :
static.flickr.com
 
2012-12-05 09:36:40 PM  
I'm a bow hunter and shoot archery all year. This year I was invited to a rifle camp, so I went. I took a head shot with a 30-06 (not advised) on a doe and it flipped stern over bow. I walked over to clean it I found that I had knocked it out cold and not killed it (bullet grazed and didn't penetrate). All I could think of was Chris Tucker in Friday.

Cut its windpipe and it died immediately. I hunt for the venison and the meat was perfect. But I'm going to stick to archery as apparently I'm a better shot with an arrow.
 
2012-12-05 10:32:33 PM  

TommyDeuce:

Begs to differ :
[static.flickr.com image 375x500]


Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store not a government agency.
 
2012-12-06 04:24:24 AM  
Almost every day during the hunting season you see at least one item in the newspapers about somebody who has shot somebody else, under the impression that he was a deer with a red hat perhaps, maybe a large flesh-colored squirrel. At any rate, it seems to me that this marks an encouraging new trend in the field of blood sports, and deserves a new type of hunting song which I present herewith.

I always will remember,
'Twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a mornin' bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

I was in no mood to trifle,
I took down my trusty rifle
And went out to stalk my prey.
What a haul I made that day.
I tied them to my fender, and I drove them home somehow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

The law was very firm, it
Took away my permit,
The worst punishment I ever endured.
It turned out there was a reason,
Cows were out of season,
And one of the hunters wasn't insured.

People ask me how I do it,
And I say, "There's nothin' to it,
You just stand there lookin' cute,
And when something moves, you shoot!"
And there's ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a pure-bred Guernsey cow.
 
2012-12-06 09:12:45 AM  
Dadoody, you're only the third one to show up with Tom Lehrer lyrics here.
 
2012-12-06 10:04:28 AM  

TommyDeuce: Burr: Englebert Slaptyback: Barricaded Gunman

For reasons I never understood, most of these guys carried their rifles into the store, slung casually over their shoulders like IDF girls at a Tel Aviv disco, and many, many of them were already visibly drunk.


The gun-on-shoulder thing might have been an anti-theft measure (instead of leaving the guns visible in the vehicle).

No idea about the drunkitude, though. That just sounds like a bad idea.

Also, more then likely the guns weren't loaded. Also, in fairness, they are more likely to kill somebody with their car while drunk then with their gun.

/but yeah, drinking and guns are a bad idea

Begs to differ :
[static.flickr.com image 375x500]


images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-06 12:40:20 PM  

dittybopper: Clemkadidlefark: FlashHarry: and that's with slugs. no rifles in iowa.

WTF?

Please 'splain.

Stop it. This is now a muzzleloader thread.

Another pic of the "gun that shall be mine":

[i51.tinypic.com image 639x186]

Another of the gun that is mine:

[img96.imageshack.us image 640x480]


Ah ... okay, then.

/fondling my Sharps
 
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