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(BBC)   Cheap, Chinese-made product poses significant health risk because it doesn't have enough lead in it   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 30
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2012-12-05 06:06:46 AM  
Hey, at least it doesn't cost very much and really, that's what's important.
 
2012-12-05 06:07:38 AM  
Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.
 
2012-12-05 06:09:17 AM  

arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.


That is, of course, why it wasn't used.
 
2012-12-05 06:12:06 AM  
The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?
 
2012-12-05 06:13:19 AM  

untaken_name: arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.

That is, of course, why it wasn't used.


Brilliant!
 
2012-12-05 06:15:09 AM  

untaken_name: arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.

That is, of course, why it wasn't used.


My head asplode.
 
2012-12-05 06:16:51 AM  
Is it bad that my first thought is a heavily accented conversation mocking our stupidity?

"No, no, no American say they no want read."
"What?"
"No read!"
"Why?"
"Make sick."
"No, keep from getting sick."
"No, they say make sick."
"That stupid."
 
2012-12-05 06:23:33 AM  
FTA:"At least one dental surgery has been found using the device."

How does a surgery do anything?
 
2012-12-05 06:28:32 AM  

mike_d85: Is it bad that my first thought is a heavily accented conversation mocking our stupidity?

"No, no, no American say they no want read."
"What?"
"No read!"
"Why?"
"Make sick."
"No, keep from getting sick."
"No, they say make sick."
"That stupid."


This took place in the UK.

The more you know.
 
2012-12-05 06:30:41 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?


The Japanese had competition when they started doing business with us. First they beat the price, then the quality.
The Chinese have no competition, since it's all about costs these days. .
 
2012-12-05 06:33:20 AM  

arashinogarou: untaken_name: arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.

That is, of course, why it wasn't used.

Brilliant!


Thank you!

/and thank you once more, for the gift. It's much appreciated.
 
2012-12-05 06:39:10 AM  
A few weeks ago I was ocean fishing and when I got done I was removing the lead pyramid weight from the bottom. It said "Made in China" on it, and I was wondering if there was any gold or something in it...so I'm finding this story very amusing or something.
 
2012-12-05 06:50:39 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?


The Chinese can build awesome stuff when they want to, just look at what Foxcon builds for Apple.

I read a story recently about a company that went to a Chinese tradeshow with the intent of importing a specific product. The product was available from multiple vendors, but each vendor had three versions of the product, at the different prices. They were labeled as "crap", "good enough" and "quality".

That's the Chinese mentality for you. They have no problem cutting corners, and making a product that is arguably total crap. You won't see it in Europe or North America, but there's a market for it in Africa and such.

For someone comming from northern Europe it's strange though, it's impossible to contact, say, a German company and haggle about which quality you want, they only offer one.


But it's unfair to claim that Chinese can't build quality, they can if you order it, and pay for it.
 
2012-12-05 07:17:00 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: mike_d85: Is it bad that my first thought is a heavily accented conversation mocking our stupidity?

"No, no, no American say they no want read."
"What?"
"No read!"
"Why?"
"Make sick."
"No, keep from getting sick."
"No, they say make sick."
"That stupid."

This took place in the UK.

The more you know.


Sorry, I glanced and saw "dental X-ray"
 
2012-12-05 07:18:19 AM  
2 billion chinese (glowing chinese) can't be wrong.
 
2012-12-05 07:34:07 AM  
I am just glad to know that there is government orginizations to protect us from dangerous stuff like leaky x-ray machines and Buckyballs.
 
2012-12-05 08:02:30 AM  
heh heh... has plenty of 'irony' in it though.
 
2012-12-05 08:07:32 AM  
mojoimage.com
 
2012-12-05 08:08:36 AM  

mike_d85: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: mike_d85: Is it bad that my first thought is a heavily accented conversation mocking our stupidity?

"No, no, no American say they no want read."
"What?"
"No read!"
"Why?"
"Make sick."
"No, keep from getting sick."
"No, they say make sick."
"That stupid."

This took place in the UK.

The more you know.

Sorry, I glanced and saw "dental X-ray"


Now that was funny.
 
2012-12-05 09:33:21 AM  
Maybe something good could come of this?

Doctor David Banner, physician, scientist, searching for a way to tap into the hidden strength that all humans have.

Then, an accidental overdose of gamma radiation altered his body chemestry.

And now when David Banner grows angry or outraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs.

The creature is driven by rage and pursued by an investigator reporter.

"Mr. McGee... don't make me angry... you wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

The creature is wanted for a murder he didn't commit.

David Banner is believed to be dead, and he must let the world think that he IS dead until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.
 
2012-12-05 10:16:24 AM  

spawn73: AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?

The Chinese can build awesome stuff when they want to, just look at what Foxcon builds for Apple.

I read a story recently about a company that went to a Chinese tradeshow with the intent of importing a specific product. The product was available from multiple vendors, but each vendor had three versions of the product, at the different prices. They were labeled as "crap", "good enough" and "quality".

That's the Chinese mentality for you. They have no problem cutting corners, and making a product that is arguably total crap. You won't see it in Europe or North America, but there's a market for it in Africa and such.

For someone comming from northern Europe it's strange though, it's impossible to contact, say, a German company and haggle about which quality you want, they only offer one.


But it's unfair to claim that Chinese can't build quality, they can if you order it, and pay for it.


Their "high-end" stuff still pales to other countries. You want a precision weapons platform or a pacemaker in your chest? Buy American or German (among other places). The USA is actually one of the biggest manufacturers in the world, it's just there are less and less jobs coming from it due to automation.
 
2012-12-05 10:26:41 AM  

spawn73: AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?

The Chinese can build awesome stuff when they want to, just look at what Foxcon builds for Apple.

I read a story recently about a company that went to a Chinese tradeshow with the intent of importing a specific product. The product was available from multiple vendors, but each vendor had three versions of the product, at the different prices. They were labeled as "crap", "good enough" and "quality".

That's the Chinese mentality for you. They have no problem cutting corners, and making a product that is arguably total crap. You won't see it in Europe or North America, but there's a market for it in Africa and such.

For someone comming from northern Europe it's strange though, it's impossible to contact, say, a German company and haggle about which quality you want, they only offer one.


But it's unfair to claim that Chinese can't build quality, they can if you order it, and pay for it.



Maybe some outfits over there, but the rule is that you watch over production like a hawk or else you end up with a container load of product made with lesser materials than spec'd. As soon as you turn your back, they substitute pvc for nylon and then play dumb when called on it.

Chicom Hive Mind will be the end of us all.
 
2012-12-05 10:45:14 AM  

Apik0r0s: spawn73: AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?

The Chinese can build awesome stuff when they want to, just look at what Foxcon builds for Apple.

I read a story recently about a company that went to a Chinese tradeshow with the intent of importing a specific product. The product was available from multiple vendors, but each vendor had three versions of the product, at the different prices. They were labeled as "crap", "good enough" and "quality".

That's the Chinese mentality for you. They have no problem cutting corners, and making a product that is arguably total crap. You won't see it in Europe or North America, but there's a market for it in Africa and such.

For someone comming from northern Europe it's strange though, it's impossible to contact, say, a German company and haggle about which quality you want, they only offer one.


But it's unfair to claim that Chinese can't build quality, they can if you order it, and pay for it.


Maybe some outfits over there, but the rule is that you watch over production like a hawk or else you end up with a container load of product made with lesser materials than spec'd. As soon as you turn your back, they substitute pvc for nylon and then play dumb when called on it.

Chicom Hive Mind will be the end of us all.


I worked for a company that purchased electronics from China, and that was quality stuff even though no-one was looking over them.

I think the deal here was that it was an ongoing relationship, rather than a one off thing. So obviously the Chinese company knew that they'd have to produce quality, or not recieve any further orders.
 
2012-12-05 11:00:04 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy

"The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it."

There are plenty of high quality products made in China. High-end audio, professional audio, photo and home entertainment gear made under well-known brand names are an example. Where you often run into trouble with Chinese-made stuff is when you buy an off-brand widget for a fraction of what it should cost.
 
2012-12-05 11:09:17 AM  

spawn73: Apik0r0s: spawn73: AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?

The Chinese can build awesome stuff when they want to, just look at what Foxcon builds for Apple.

I read a story recently about a company that went to a Chinese tradeshow with the intent of importing a specific product. The product was available from multiple vendors, but each vendor had three versions of the product, at the different prices. They were labeled as "crap", "good enough" and "quality".

That's the Chinese mentality for you. They have no problem cutting corners, and making a product that is arguably total crap. You won't see it in Europe or North America, but there's a market for it in Africa and such.

For someone comming from northern Europe it's strange though, it's impossible to contact, say, a German company and haggle about which quality you want, they only offer one.


But it's unfair to claim that Chinese can't build quality, they can if you order it, and pay for it.


Maybe some outfits over there, but the rule is that you watch over production like a hawk or else you end up with a container load of product made with lesser materials than spec'd. As soon as you turn your back, they substitute pvc for nylon and then play dumb when called on it.

Chicom Hive Mind will be the end of us all.

I worked for a company that purchased electronics from China, and that was quality stuff even though no-one was looking over them.

I think the deal here was that it was an ongoing relationship, rather than a one off thing. So obviously the ...


I have a buddy who worked for a big name brans grill company, overseeing their production at a plant in China. He came home for the Holidays one year and when he returned a month later he had thousands of grills that would not accept a finish. Reason: while he was gone they apparently sold all of the good steel (that his company had paid for) and replaced it with something else. This factory had the same sort of incentive to do good business, you would think.

And there is little or no legal recourse over there. You can get a judgement, but good luck ever collecting as a foreigner. It's the Wild, Wild West. Intellectual Property? Lol.
 
2012-12-05 11:55:28 AM  
The fact that British dentists use £200 hand-held dental x-ray machines probably says something about the state of British dentistry.

/stubmitter
 
2012-12-05 03:01:10 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy:
Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.


When the heads of Toyota show up at the Toyota plant once a month, they ask everybody for their opinion. They don't like being told everything's fine. A low-level tech whose job was solely to hold the hose steaming seats that go into cars told them to change the order of work (install 2 bolts before 2 other bolts instead of after), which saved 17 seconds; to give a shorter steam hose, which increased steam output pressure and saved 24 seconds; and to allow the use of fingerless gloves, which retains minimal burn risk but increases dexterity when installing bolts, saving 11 more seconds. This cut the total time down to under 30 seconds per seat.

Usually they also ask what is non-functional or not ideally durable on their car, what breaks often, what doesn't work, handling issues, things the mechanics think could be better, and such. Once in a great while, nobody has anything; at this point the higher ups look confused and quite obviously annoyed. They become belligerent for a while, then leave in a huff.

The Japanese simply do not like to hear that everything is perfect. There is no such thing. They need to improve.
 
2012-12-05 04:01:32 PM  

arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.

 
2012-12-05 04:11:18 PM  

untaken_name: arashinogarou: untaken_name: arashinogarou: Ironic tag on vacation? This is one of the few times it would be appropriate.

That is, of course, why it wasn't used.

Brilliant!

Thank you!

/and thank you once more, for the gift. It's much appreciated.


You earned it! I laughed my ass off.
 
2012-12-05 05:56:22 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Chinese inability to produce high quality products is baffling. After 10 years of building shiatty products, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Even the Japanese started off making crappy cars. Now they lead American cars in quality, and not just because American cars got worse. The Japanese got better at making the things.

But the Chinese are still cutting corners, producing shoddy products, and endangering the public with their wares. When are they going to finally improve?


Not anytime soon. Too many are walking zombies and seem to blandly exist. It's amazing to watch dash cam videos of severe accidents. No one helps and in fact, they turn around and drive the other way since the carnage is now blocking the road.
 
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