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(BBC)   Turkish government fines TV station because the Simpsons mocked God. Wait until they find out about South Park   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 63
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2012-12-05 07:37:48 AM  
what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...
 
2012-12-05 07:45:30 AM  
Good thing the blasphemy police are there to save them or a cartoon might have toppled religious belief in turkey
 
2012-12-05 08:19:39 AM  
I wonder how much in fines a single episode of Family Guy would cost them?
 
2012-12-05 08:20:52 AM  
Or the Kids in the Hall sketch, the Church of Seuss.
 
2012-12-05 08:32:02 AM  
Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:16 AM  
Last week Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan tore into a chart-topping soap opera about the Ottoman Empire's longest-reigning Sultan, and RTUK has warned the show's makers about insulting a historical figure.

I'm pretty sure the scrotumless goatfarker Suleiman I was far too busy stuffing his own feces and the limbs he chewed from his still-living children into that magnificently ridiculous hat of his the bones of his own children into the magnificent hat of his. Either that or, you know, he was dead and couldn't exactly take offence.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:44 AM  

Cythraul: I wonder how much in fines a single episode of Family Guy would cost them?


I'm wondering about back to back airing of Superjail and Drawn Together.

And the wooshing sound you're hearing is Kemal Atatürk spinning in his grave.
 
2012-12-05 08:33:49 AM  
They shouldn't be fined because man cannot be held responsible for his actions if he does not have the ability to do otherwise.
 
2012-12-05 08:34:14 AM  
Wow, I just caughtsayof. I will now slink away, sad and ashamed.
 
2012-12-05 08:34:24 AM  
Please to not be offering my god a peanut
 
2012-12-05 08:36:25 AM  

fustanella: Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.


Turkey is weird. From what I know, they are culturally conservative and religious, but they have a secular government. Something about a former ruler long since dead that basically forced the Turkish government to be secular.
 
2012-12-05 08:37:02 AM  

some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...


lots of countries censor and prohibit USA TV programs. not everyone lives in the filthy gutter we roll around in. you can easily think of a dozen programs that have no redeeming value right off the top of your head, i'm sure. one more reason why so many people hate America. Jerry Springer, reality shows, much of Mtv, etcetera, all garbage.
 
2012-12-05 08:37:16 AM  
simpsons did it more elegantly.
 
2012-12-05 08:38:26 AM  
Mmmm... sacrilicious...
 
2012-12-05 08:43:40 AM  
For the omnipotent creator of the universe, he sure is a thin-skinned little titty-baby, eh?
 
2012-12-05 08:44:51 AM  

KrispyKritter: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

lots of countries censor and prohibit USA TV programs. not everyone lives in the filthy gutter appreciates freedom of speech we have roll around in. you can easily think of a dozen programs that have no redeeming value right off the top of your head, i'm sure. one more reason why so many people hate America. Jerry Springer, reality shows, much of Mtv, etcetera, all garbage.


FTFY
 
2012-12-05 08:45:23 AM  

KrispyKritter: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

lots of countries censor and prohibit USA TV programs. not everyone lives in the filthy gutter we roll around in. you can easily think of a dozen programs that have no redeeming value right off the top of your head, i'm sure. one more reason why so many people hate America. Jerry Springer, reality shows, much of Mtv, etcetera, all garbage.


Punishing a broadcaster for insulting dead people and mythic creatures is very different from hoofing Honey Boo Boo and Mundane Job Wars vs. Rednecks off the air because they are worthless programming.
 
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2012-12-05 08:46:22 AM  
homer, thats not god, thats a waffle stuck to the ceiling.....
 
2012-12-05 08:48:12 AM  
Marge: I am so sick of that story about finding an onion ring in your French fries! It was 20 years ago!

Homer: That was my Woodstock!
 
2012-12-05 08:51:57 AM  
Just tell them it was the Christian God not the Muslim one.
 
2012-12-05 08:53:56 AM  
 
2012-12-05 09:03:10 AM  
And this is why there can be no debate about Turkey joining the EU at present.
After a decade of pulling none of this kind of shiat, you can pull up a seat and we can at least talk. Until then, just "no".
 
2012-12-05 09:03:45 AM  
Islam is awsome, Egypt sentenced 7 people to death over a youtube movie... yea arab spring!!
 
2012-12-05 09:03:51 AM  

21-7-b:
A Turkish prosecutor has demanded that a Kurdish man who is deaf, illiterate and unable to speak be jailed for 25 years for supporting terrorism.


There's your problem
 
2012-12-05 09:05:15 AM  

KrispyKritter: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

lots of countries censor and prohibit USA TV programs. not everyone lives in the filthy gutter we roll around in. you can easily think of a dozen programs that have no redeeming value right off the top of your head, i'm sure. one more reason why so many people hate America. Jerry Springer, reality shows, much of Mtv, etcetera, all garbage.


So they hate us for our freedom?
 
2012-12-05 09:05:55 AM  
"Turkey is a secular republic ..."

i281.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 09:10:44 AM  

rocketpants: "Turkey is a secular republic ..."

[i281.photobucket.com image 200x173]


Well, it is. Although, the army has to periodically step in to smack down the Islamists.

And Turkey is by far the most rational and progressive of the predominantly Muslim nations...
 
2012-12-05 09:11:35 AM  
some_beer_drinker
what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...


Did you warn them about the Black Plague?
 
2012-12-05 09:15:12 AM  
Because he works for a Steve Mobs and can't get Christmas off even though it's his kid's birthday?

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-05 09:16:21 AM  

wedun: 21-7-b:
A Turkish prosecutor has demanded that a Kurdish man who is deaf, illiterate and unable to speak be jailed for 25 years for supporting terrorism.

There's your problem


Yup. One of the best pieces of advice that one can give to another about having a good life in Turkey is: "Don't be a Kurd."

CSB: My wife went to university with a Kurd who had fled to escape the wrath of the authorities for the crime of running a small publishing house. Did I mention that he printed books in Kurdish?
 
2012-12-05 09:17:43 AM  
so Steve Jobs is the devil??
 
2012-12-05 09:18:08 AM  

aagrajag: rocketpants: "Turkey is a secular republic ..."

[i281.photobucket.com image 200x173]

Well, it is. Although, the army has to periodically step in to smack down the Islamists.

And Turkey is by far the most rational and progressive of the predominantly Muslim nations...


That's what is so scary.
 
2012-12-05 09:28:59 AM  

rocketpants: aagrajag: rocketpants: "Turkey is a secular republic ..."

[i281.photobucket.com image 200x173]

Well, it is. Although, the army has to periodically step in to smack down the Islamists.

And Turkey is by far the most rational and progressive of the predominantly Muslim nations...

That's what is so scary.


It really shows what an amazing leader Atatürk was to have reformed the nation and created a system that kept things in check for so long.
 
2012-12-05 09:29:17 AM  

aagrajag: Yup. One of the best pieces of advice that one can give to another about having a good life in Turkey is: "Don't be a Kurd."


Followed by "don't be Armenian"
 
2012-12-05 09:40:41 AM  
Just goes to show how absurd Islam and those who practice it are, and how fragile and worthless this belief system really is. They need to be protected from anything contrary to their ridiculous beliefs. This is why the Muslim world is stuck in the dark ages.
 
2012-12-05 09:41:28 AM  

rocketpants: aagrajag: rocketpants: "Turkey is a secular republic ..."

[i281.photobucket.com image 200x173]

Well, it is. Although, the army has to periodically step in to smack down the Islamists.

And Turkey is by far the most rational and progressive of the predominantly Muslim nations...

That's what is so scary.


This x1000
 
2012-12-05 09:41:29 AM  

some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...


You're living in a century where a startling 46% of all U. S. Americans not only "don't have maps," but think that human beings were dropped onto the planet in their current form sometime in the last 10,000 years without benefit of evolution.

/Welcome to Murca
//(facepalm)
 
2012-12-05 09:47:08 AM  

fustanella: Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.


Hell, I'll be happy if that 46% of the US that's had it's head up its arse about evolution since before the Revolution would finally get with the times. (see my earlier comment there above)

At this point even Pat Robertson is willing to acknowledge the validity of evolution over strict Creatinism.

If 46% of America is lagging behind Pat Robertson on that topic, what hope is there that any predominantly Muslim nation will catch a clue anytime soon?
 
2012-12-05 09:49:38 AM  

fyrewede: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

You're living in a century where a startling 46% of all U. S. Americans not only "don't have maps," but think that human beings were dropped onto the planet in their current form sometime in the last 10,000 years without benefit of evolution.

/Welcome to Murca
//(facepalm)


Nice, but... but.... but.... america is stupid too!!
logical fallacy, this is how it works.
 
2012-12-05 09:51:20 AM  

Cythraul: fustanella: Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.

Turkey is weird. From what I know, they are culturally conservative and religious, but they have a secular government. Something about a former ruler long since dead that basically forced the Turkish government to be secular.


Mustafa Kemal Ataturk did try to ensure a secular government, and it's amazing it's lasted this long. The military, which was secular, traditionally ran things, but it's looking like the Islam-o-derps are gaining power over there, which is too bad.
 
2012-12-05 09:53:39 AM  

fustanella: Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.


^This

What happened, Turkey? You used to be cool! Don't forget Ataturk.
 
2012-12-05 09:54:34 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Cythraul: fustanella: Oh, Turkey, we had such high hopes for you, what with the EU and the secular reforms and the. Y'just didn't go far enough. Pity. The 21st century welcomes you when you're ready.

Turkey is weird. From what I know, they are culturally conservative and religious, but they have a secular government. Something about a former ruler long since dead that basically forced the Turkish government to be secular.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk did try to ensure a secular government, and it's amazing it's lasted this long. The military, which was secular, traditionally ran things, but it's looking like the Islam-o-derps are gaining power over there, which is too bad.


Re. my earlier post: that man was really something special. He managed to drag an entire nation into the modern world, kicking and screaming all the way.
 
2012-12-05 09:56:14 AM  

This text is now purple: aagrajag: Yup. One of the best pieces of advice that one can give to another about having a good life in Turkey is: "Don't be a Kurd."

Followed by "don't be Armenian"


Oh man, you're right. :(

Followed by "don't be Greek"
 
2012-12-05 10:04:05 AM  
I'd have loved to have seen a Simpsons episode based on Midnight Express.
 
2012-12-05 10:13:44 AM  

This text is now purple: aagrajag: Yup. One of the best pieces of advice that one can give to another about having a good life in Turkey is: "Don't be a Kurd."

Followed by "don't be Armenian"


Don't be absurd, there are no Armenians in Turkey, and there never were.

Also: Turkishness sucks!

CSB: The Armenian students group at my university put up posters a few years ago commemorating the genocide, featuring pictures of tomes of Turkish history with a gap at 1917. The Turkish student group put up counter posters with the gap filled by a book called Armenian Lies. This went on for a bit, until finally the Turks took what they thought was a conciliatory stance, which basically boiled down to "let's not bicker and argue about who killed who."
 
2012-12-05 10:24:57 AM  
Turkey is about due for another bloodless coup, wherein the military jails the heads of the AK Party (Erdoğan, Gül et al.) and briefly takes over governance until another round of elections can be held. The 10% referendum needs to be overturned, and a return to secular statehood is required. Unfortunately, many of the younger career military are Islamist, while the older CHP (Atatürk supporters) members are retiring. The disappointments with the EU commerce have turned Turkey's interests east (pretty much every Egyptian taxicab is now manufactured by Tofaş), and the conflicts in other Islamist states might have the Turks considering a return to the caliphate.
 
2012-12-05 10:55:28 AM  

Senna: I'd have loved to have seen a Simpsons episode based on Midnight Express.


simpsonswiki.net
 
2012-12-05 11:06:14 AM  
Seems like most governments want to put people in jail for hurting somebody's feelings. I wonder what the deal is.

/All Turks have a small-penised god who takes orders from Hitler.
 
2012-12-05 11:15:40 AM  

the_chief: Seems like most governments want to put people in jail for hurting somebody's feelings. I wonder what the deal is.

/All Turks have a small-penised god who takes orders from Hitler.


Wow, someone else who has read the koran
 
2012-12-05 11:55:38 AM  

aagrajag: rocketpants: aagrajag: rocketpants: "Turkey is a secular republic ..."

[i281.photobucket.com image 200x173]

Well, it is. Although, the army has to periodically step in to smack down the Islamists.

And Turkey is by far the most rational and progressive of the predominantly Muslim nations...

That's what is so scary.

It really shows what an amazing leader Atatürk was to have reformed the nation and created a system that kept things in check for so long.


If you think that insulting God will get you into trouble in Turkey, try insulting Mustafa Kemal. Fortunately, I know WW1 history, when our ship was in Istanbul any time some young fellow in uniform there asked "What do you think of our leader Ataturk?" and my standard reply "From what I've read, he was a great soldier and statesman who earned the respect of both friends and enemies." always got a smile and handshake. And in one case a pat on the back and asked if I'd be interested in going for a drink and to talk about Turkish history, and perhaps to the famous baths- no, I don't swing that way, and yes, in spite of regulations, a lot of the guys in their military do.
 
2012-12-05 11:57:02 AM  
Can we just end all this "respect for people's beliefs" and just be open and accepting of insults and slander. There needs to be tolerance for angering and insulting people.
 
2012-12-05 12:08:05 PM  
.

cynicalbastard:

If you think that insulting God will get you into trouble in Turkey, try insulting Mustafa Kemal. Fortunately, I know WW1 history, when our ship was in Istanbul any time some young fellow in uniform there asked "What do you think of our leader Ataturk?" and my standard reply "From what I've read, he was a great soldier and statesman who earned the respect of both friends and enemies." always got a smile and handshake. And in one case a pat on the back and asked if I'd be interested in going for a drink and to talk about Turkish history, and perhaps to the famous baths- no, I don't swing that way, and yes, in spite of regulations, a lot of the guys in their military do.


My snark and general abuse upthread notwithstanding, Ataturk seemed like a classy guy. He wrote a memorial for the ANZAC soldiers who had died in the Gallipoli campaign:

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.

From his perspective, the ANZACs were a bunch of foreigners who invaded his country and killed a bunch of his friends. For him to offer carte blanche forgiveness and acceptance like that is pure, unadulterated class.
 
2012-12-05 01:09:08 PM  
:facepalm

c'mon Turkey.. you're supposed to be the cool euro-middle eastern bridge state.
 
2012-12-05 01:24:17 PM  
Homer: God, what is the meaning of life?
God: You will find out when are are dead.
Homer: But I can't wait that long!
God: You can't wait six months?
Homer: No, tell me now!
 
2012-12-05 01:34:42 PM  
And NATO wants to arm them with long range missles?
 
2012-12-05 01:34:59 PM  

Bondith: My snark and general abuse upthread notwithstanding, Ataturk seemed like a classy guy. He wrote a memorial for the ANZAC soldiers who had died in the Gallipoli campaign:

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.

From his perspective, the ANZACs were a bunch of foreigners who invaded his country and killed a bunch of his friends. For him to offer carte blanche forgiveness and acceptance like that is pure, unadulterated class.


It's a shame how much of a dick he was to Will Robinson.
 
2012-12-05 01:35:40 PM  

liam76: KrispyKritter: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

lots of countries censor and prohibit USA TV programs. not everyone lives in the filthy gutter appreciates freedom of speech we have roll around in. you can easily think of a dozen programs that have no redeeming value right off the top of your head, i'm sure. one more reason why so many people hate America. Jerry Springer, reality shows, much of Mtv, etcetera, all garbage.

FTFY


That's KrispyKritte's schtick. He is, or pretends to be a very bitter, hateful old bigot. Poe's Law applies as it usually does. He may be trolling or he may believe all the hate he spews. Either way he's toxic and you're best off ignoring him.
 
2012-12-05 01:37:26 PM  

wedun: 21-7-b:
A Turkish prosecutor has demanded that a Kurdish man who is deaf, illiterate and unable to speak be jailed for 25 years for supporting terrorism.

There's your problem


I'm more concerned about how well he plays pinball.
 
2012-12-05 01:50:27 PM  
but some of the best jokes are religious

if God did't want us to laugh then he would have people go around killing the ones who do!

oh aaaa nevermind.
 
2012-12-05 02:13:28 PM  

some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...


Did you warn them about the bubonic plague?
 
2012-12-05 03:19:40 PM  
Blasphemy's a victimless crime.
 
2012-12-05 05:14:55 PM  

Mock26: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

Did you warn them about the bubonic plague?


If you could go to, say, 1340, and somehow convince them you were a, not a witch, and b, not sent by Satan, and c, really from the future, and warned them that there was a huge-ass plague on the way, rather than listening to your ideas about, well, rat control, sanitation, etc. the local governments would all get together and come up with an early fix of there own for the problem, i.e., burn all the Jewish doctors in order to keep them from poisoning the wells, and kill all cats with even a smidgen of black hair to make sure there's no satanic familiars. And root out more heresies to keep Jesus happy.
Then when the plague hit, all the local lords, bishops, etc. whose populations were not completely lost but only dropped by a third to a half would pat themselves on the shoulders for a job well-done. As well as some well-done heretics.
Organisational stupidity is timeless.
 
2012-12-06 01:50:57 AM  

cynicalbastard: Mock26: some_beer_drinker: what farking century am i living in? hey, the dark ages called, they want their idiocy back...

Did you warn them about the bubonic plague?

If you could go to, say, 1340, and somehow convince them you were a, not a witch, and b, not sent by Satan, and c, really from the future, and warned them that there was a huge-ass plague on the way, rather than listening to your ideas about, well, rat control, sanitation, etc. the local governments would all get together and come up with an early fix of there own for the problem, i.e., burn all the Jewish doctors in order to keep them from poisoning the wells, and kill all cats with even a smidgen of black hair to make sure there's no satanic familiars. And root out more heresies to keep Jesus happy.
Then when the plague hit, all the local lords, bishops, etc. whose populations were not completely lost but only dropped by a third to a half would pat themselves on the shoulders for a job well-done. As well as some well-done heretics.
Organisational stupidity is timeless.


My post was an XKCD reference.
 
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