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2012-12-05 01:02:57 PM
Almost as good as KA "Old South" parties

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2012-12-05 01:03:55 PM
not sure if i know exactly what a sorority party looks like....any help?
 
2012-12-05 01:07:14 PM

factoryconnection: liam76: check again.

I did miss that. If it isn't a captioned picture of a cat my mind does wander quickly


I put it in as a joke.

i think I am now going to leave it just to see what it does to responses after peopel look at my profiel.

factoryconnection: liam76: I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.

I don't agree with that conclusion either. It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.


I agree.


factoryconnection: liam76: If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.

But not institutional racism. The argument is a semantic one, but a significant difference.


I don't think institutional racism is strictly pro-white. I woudl call an AA system that gives preference to minorities is insitutional racism against whites.


factoryconnection: The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with


I don't know if you can put all of those things at the foot of slavery or jim crow laws.
 
2012-12-05 01:10:42 PM

BronyMedic: Snarfangel: He just told you. Giles Goat Boy. Sheesh.

Don't push your furry porn fanfiction on us, Mister.


That stuff makes me Barth.
 
2012-12-05 01:21:20 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.

Unless now "feel-good" = kid farking and "liberalism" = mocking poor Mexicans by dressing up like them while you drink excessively at a party filled with rich white people.


I don't think anybody has ever accused the "Greek" culture of being bleeding heart liberals. They're all entitled rich kids, freeloading off their parents, doing enough pretend education that their daddy's company will feel ok hiring them once their four years of drinking are up.

The liberals are all in the faculty and administration, redistributing those sorostitutes' wealth under the guise of textbook sales.

/ But even when I was in college, most of the students didn't mind a theme party. My guess here is that this is a combination of white people thinking it's appropriate to get offended on other peoples' behalves, combined with good old fashioned jealousy about not being invited.
 
2012-12-05 01:25:58 PM

thecpt: I always think that comes down to class war and not race war.


Class, or more specifically socio-economic status are very important factors, indeed. But look at the conviction and incarceration rates for things like drug crimes; keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.
 
2012-12-05 01:26:17 PM

serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.


Greeks are ethnically White, so it is OK. Any kind of racial slur against caucs (pronounced "cocks") is OK, because they are evil.

/Once got in trouble when I used the old "no speeek Eenglesh" routine on a raging Hispanic asshat driver I simply didn't want to argue with over a parking spot (I'd seen it first). He actually called the cops and said I was being a racist.
 
2012-12-05 01:34:05 PM

pute kisses like a man: i think it would have been fine but for the signs.

/ imagine dressing up like a leprechaun for st patrick's day, but carrying a sign that says i blow up protestants... :(
// or, just carrying bombs. not very nice. 
/// also, pretty sure that white kids smoke a lot more pot than mexicans, and are probably less likely have any respect for the fine art of proper lawn maintenance and proper landscaping.


Or imagine the same day, but with drinking... because, you know, the Irish like to drink... that's be a little bit racist right? Kinda like saying Mexicans like to smoke weed...

It's a good thing no one does anything that racist on St. Patrick's day.
 
2012-12-05 01:38:36 PM

factoryconnection: keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.


Do you have a good link for that? Google is throwing me weird stuff and I don't know what's reputable. Maybe its simplification through numbers, maybe there are other factors. The only time crossing the border to Canada was a hassle was when we brought our black friend. Who was adopted by ridiculously rich white people.
 
2012-12-05 01:39:11 PM

HotWingConspiracy: serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

It might get in to racist stereotyping territory if they start saying Greeks are poor, drunks and drug addicts. Like what happened here.


What if they said Greeks are poor, lazy, tax cheats? Is truth no longer a defense?
 
2012-12-05 01:42:58 PM

merzbow: Wow, the topic is Mexicans and pedophilia and no Jesus Quintana? Big fail...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x638]



Jesus Quintana is Cuban, mang.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:31 PM

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.


It is not reality for the many millions of Mexicans who doesn`t mown your lawn for beer and weed. Stereotypes are for dumb people like you in order to try to make sense of the world. It is much easier to think of everyone being the same than to consider how not everyone fits into your preconceived notions.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:37 PM

DickDarlington: .... sorority girls dressed as Mexicans complete with mustaches. There has to be a porn movie somewhere waiting for me to rent.

//got the weirdest boner right now....


Perhaps they could use this as a model? NSFW - Not even remotely
 
2012-12-05 01:46:41 PM
If this is "racist", I am soooo suing South of the Border!
 
2012-12-05 01:49:09 PM

ManateeGag: sorority girls putting the ass in class I see.


what else do you expect from vapid, white suburban princesses?
 
2012-12-05 01:49:55 PM

liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist


Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.
 
2012-12-05 01:53:00 PM

liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.



Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.
 
2012-12-05 01:55:08 PM

factoryconnection: thecpt: I always think that comes down to class war and not race war.

Class, or more specifically socio-economic status are very important factors, indeed. But look at the conviction and incarceration rates for things like drug crimes; keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.


That's because the best way to fight a class war is to sell it as a race war. Divide and Conquer.
 
2012-12-05 01:58:51 PM

liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist


Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.


Right. It is okay to be culturally insensitive because there are other peoples that are more culturally insensitive. The ultimate fall back for people who have nothing more to say to defend their dick behaviour.
 
2012-12-05 02:04:25 PM
What's wrong with this? It's just a Mexican themed little party! Are we going to sue kids next whenever they have those "Children of the World" programs at school where they get to dress up as people of different countries while they sing We Are The World?
 
2012-12-05 02:11:34 PM
This is inexcusable, and every one of those sorority girls should be thoroughly spanked for such behavior. And I volunteer to carry out the punishment.
 
2012-12-05 02:11:38 PM

BrynnMacFlynn:
The campus literally flipped its shiat. I mean literally.


Wouldn't they have had to defecated on some flat surface and then use a spatula or shovel to then lightly toss the excrement in the air and expose the previously face down surface to the air?

Yeah, yeah...see you in 18 years.

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-05 02:20:03 PM

Groink: Wouldn't they have had to defecated on some flat surface and then use a spatula or shovel to then lightly toss the excrement in the air and expose the previously face down surface to the air?


I would have taken a picture. They lined up on the paths, with their shining, shiat covered spatulas. It was a thing of beautiful derpitude.
 
2012-12-05 02:21:54 PM

oldfarthenry: Anyone else dreading what they're going to do on Martin Luther King day?


A white woman.
 
2012-12-05 02:22:23 PM

manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.


Using that logic Obama isn't black.
 
2012-12-05 02:25:48 PM

factoryconnection: I believe the PHC is a form of voluntary segregation


Prairie Home Companion?

Pacific Highway, Coastal?

Wha...HUH?!?!


But yes, the historically Black college and Black sorority and fraternity thing, the voluntary segregation does puzzle me greatly. And would I be accepted in them as a tight-ass white boy?
 
2012-12-05 02:29:22 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: factoryconnection: I believe the PHC is a form of voluntary segregation

Prairie Home Companion?

Pacific Highway, Coastal?


Phallic Heft Consensus?
 
2012-12-05 02:35:48 PM

Fallout Boy: Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning


Since some people have moronic ideas on racism (only white people can be racist) that means I am drunk?
 
2012-12-05 02:46:13 PM
DickDarlington: .... sorority girls dressed as Mexicans complete with mustaches. There has to be a porn movie somewhere waiting for me to rent.

//got the weirdest boner right now....

Perhaps they could use this as a model? NSFW - Not even remotely


Thanks, I was too lazy to look it up myself.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:20 PM

liam76: Fallout Boy: Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning

Since some people have moronic ideas on racism (only white people can be racist) that means I am drunk?


drunk or racist, one of those.
If you're white, you're racist.
If you're non-white, you must be drunk in order to actually admit that in a public forum.
 
2012-12-05 02:53:39 PM

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.


What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.
 
2012-12-05 03:01:38 PM

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.


Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans", but the black half of Obama's ancestry never lived in the US during times they were enslaved, so that disqualifies him?
Technically you just said that's why "black pride" is a thing, so really the only conclusion we could draw is that Obama isn't allowed to have or show black pride; not that he's not actually black.
 
2012-12-05 03:01:50 PM

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.


Thinking about this more, I think you missed the point. Say there is a white irish guy. He is irish, he knows his irish culture, he would celebrate being irish, not being white. Say there is a black guy, he doesn't know if he is zulu or swahili or whatever, all he has as an identifier is that he black, thus the black pride movement was about trying to connect blacks, that forcibly had their true culture removed from them, to a common culture. Black Pride is a place holder for lost cultural connection, white americans came here by choice, there is no need for them to have white pride as cultural place holder.

I'm guessing you are trying to make some connection to Obama being Kenyen. That's irrelevant. Obama still has black skin, and the larger populace of Black America was disconnected for their cultural heritage. The two things have nothing to do with each other.
 
2012-12-05 03:02:10 PM

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.


If I follow you correctly there is no such thing as "white".

Which means there is no such thing as "black", except that due to black american not knowing where they come from and the shared experience/history of african slaves in the US.

Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?
 
2012-12-05 03:03:04 PM

serial_crusher: Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans"


No, I said slavery is the one thing that defines black pride. Black Americans are identified by being black.
 
2012-12-05 03:08:54 PM

manimal2878: serial_crusher: Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans"

No, I said slavery is the one thing that defines black pride. Black Americans are identified by being black.


Be sure to bring that up in black history month.


manimal2878: Thinking about this more, I think you missed the point. Say there is a white irish guy. He is irish, he knows his irish culture, he would celebrate being irish, not being white. Say there is a black guy, he doesn't know if he is zulu or swahili or whatever, all he has as an identifier is that he black, thus the black pride movement was about trying to connect blacks, that forcibly had their true culture removed from them, to a common culture. Black Pride is a place holder for lost cultural connection, white americans came here by choice, there is no need for them to have white pride as cultural place holder.

I'm guessing you are trying to make some connection to Obama being Kenyen. That's irrelevant. Obama still has black skin, and the larger populace of Black America was disconnected for their cultural heritage. The two things have nothing to do with each other


If Obama's black skin can identify him as black how does white skin not identify one as white?

Also, if "black pride" is only for people who had culture ripped away, and no choice to come here, then you are saying Obama can have no black pride.

There are plenty of white peopel who don';t have a good idea where their family came from, and even if they do don't have a real cultural connection.
 
2012-12-05 03:09:45 PM

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.

If I follow you correctly there is no such thing as "white". There such a thing as white skin, I would have phrased it better as, there is no good reason for white pride.

Which means there is no such thing as "black", except that due to black american not knowing where they come from and the shared experience/history of african slaves in the US. There is black skin. There is a good reason for black pride as I explained above.

Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?

Like I said, Obama has black skin, therefore he is black.
 
2012-12-05 03:13:14 PM

manimal2878: There such a thing as white skin, I would have phrased it better as, there is no good reason for white pride.

There is black skin. There is a good reason for black pride as I explained above.

Like I said, Obama has black skin, therefore he is black.


I can understand that. I don;t agree with that, but at least it is consistent.

But I don;t think you have thought this out.

You are still saying the only reason for black pride is slavery. Nothing else black people have accomplished in the Us is deserving of pride?

And it still implies that Obama can't hionestly share in black pride, as he has cultural connection, wasn't "forced" to the US, etc.
 
2012-12-05 03:14:03 PM

JohnCarter: Almost as good as KA "Old South" parties


I went to a few parties at the KA house at UF. While I never went one of those kind of parties, they did have portraits of all the brothers in confederate garb hanging on the walls of the house. This was almost 20 years ago so I dont know if those are still there.
 
2012-12-05 03:18:28 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [media.comicvine.com image 323x338]


Pedrobear!
 
2012-12-05 03:18:44 PM

Fallout Boy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morningJust Another OC Homeless Guy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.

Right. It is okay to be culturally insensitive because there are other peoples that are more culturally insensitive. The ultimate fall back for people who have nothing more to say to defend their dick behaviour.


Not what I said. Putting words into other people's mouths is no way to go thru life, son. Makes you look stupid and silly.
 
2012-12-05 03:24:05 PM

liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.


Why would it be a problem?

liam76: f Obama's black skin can identify him as black how does white skin not identify one as white?

Also, if "black pride" is only for people who had culture ripped away, and no choice to come here, then you are saying Obama can have no black pride.

There are plenty of white peopel who don';t have a good idea where their family came from, and even if they do don't have a real cultural connection.



You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments. If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background.

I'm trying to explain why White Pride and Black Pride are not really the same thing. I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american. But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background. White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin.
 
2012-12-05 03:24:14 PM
tnation.t-nation.com
 
2012-12-05 03:27:25 PM

liam76: You are still saying the only reason for black pride is slavery. Nothing else black people have accomplished in the Us is deserving of pride?


No, not at all. I'm saying because of slavery most black people would be unable to trace their history back before slavery. All they have as their history is their history as black Americans. White people, most of them, should be able to trace their history back to some other culture. Therefore there is no need for them to limit themselves to skin color as a historical cultural identifier.
 
2012-12-05 03:29:41 PM

liam76: Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?


Fascinatin' question, and I was just formulatin' a similar question and trying not to sound like an ignoramus.

Seems to me, being a mite younger than President Obama (my brother was born the exact same day: 8/4/1961), and I remembered the Black Power movement. I remember the MOVES in Philadelphia and the Black Panther stuff in Oakland, CA. Surely President Obama was conscious of these movements in his childhood and without question he experienced youth as as a Black kid/teen, same as any Black kid born to black parents, descendants of slaves as far back as the trade went.

While he may not have had grandparents or great-grandparents to tell him stories of Jim Crow laws, sharecropping on the old plantation, etc., he's been subject to the same stuff the other kids have.
 
2012-12-05 03:38:42 PM
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Will be happy to punish Chi Omega again.
 
2012-12-05 03:42:07 PM

manimal2878: liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.

Why would it be a problem?


Really?

You don't see how "

slavery is the one thing that defines black pride" is offensive?

manimal2878: You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments.


You can say the exact same thing about black pride.

manimal2878: If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background


I don't see how you can draw a line saying that "irish" isn't too broad, "black" isn't too broad, but "white" is.

manimal2878: I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american.


If it is based on your "view" then you can have anytyp of group pride.

manimal2878: But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background.


I am nto sure what your background is, but there are many "white" american who have no real connection to the coutnries they left generations ago, and many who probably don't have a clear grip on where exactly they are from.

manimal2878: White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin


White american doesn't tell you anymore than black american.

If you are able to lump Obama into "black" despite him not having that histroy that you says unites them then you are admitting it tells nothing of a person's history.

manimal2878: I'm trying to explain why White Pride and Black Pride are not really the same thing.


They are. I freely admit that people who go on and on about white pride are more likely to be racist, but I really can't buy any of the arguments about black pride having more "legitimacy".
 
2012-12-05 03:51:23 PM
I know that I'm partially culpable here, but let it be put on the record that today we Farkers took a thread about sorority girls and made it into a fairly dry discussion of racial relations in this country instead of even a hint of making it into a picture thread of "sorority girls" in their collegiate-print undies.

I guess we collectively had to grow up sooner or later.
 
2012-12-05 04:01:50 PM

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.

Why would it be a problem?

Really?

You don't see how "slavery is the one thing that defines black pride" is offensive?

manimal2878: You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments.

You can say the exact same thing about black pride.

manimal2878: If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background

I don't see how you can draw a line saying that "irish" isn't too broad, "black" isn't too broad, but "white" is.

manimal2878: I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american.

If it is based on your "view" then you can have anytyp of group pride.

manimal2878: But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background.

I am nto sure what your background is, but there are many "white" american who have no real connection to the coutnries they left generations ago, and many who probably don't have a clear grip on where exactly they are from.

manimal2878: White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin

White american doesn't tell you anymore than black american.

If you are able to lump Obama into "black" despite him not having that histroy that you says unites them then you are admitting it tells nothing of a person's history.

manimal2878: I'm trying to explain why White Prid ...


The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent.
 
2012-12-05 04:09:31 PM

manimal2878: The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent


Actually that answers none of my questions.

The only thing it changes it that white people are more likely to have a direct cultural connection to a specific group.

That is it. It doesn't explain why you think people of a certain skin color get a pass for connecting by race despite not having a shared past expereince or culture.

In both cases your skin color has nothing to do with your accomplishments. In both cases you didn't choose it. Having pride in one is no more silly than pride in the other.

It is silly to say "white" is too broad to have pride in, but "black" and "Irish" are ok doesn't make sense.
 
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