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(Gawker)   In an effort to get people to finally stop talking about pedophilia at Penn State, sorority decides to hold Mexican-themed party. With predictable results   (gawker.com) divider line 278
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2012-12-05 10:43:24 AM  

ChuDogg: duffblue: Oh fark. my sister is in that picture.

from the comments:


Gawker has an interesting business model. Find a news story about someone somewhere doing something that they know the insufferable megalomaniacs who frequent the site will find offensive, then sit back while thousands trip over themselves in a self-flagulating circle jerk to prove they are singularly the most offended, most progressive thinking, most morally righteous. commenter in the world or between Red Hook to DUMBO whichever is larger.

Jezebel is the same. Pretty much the entirety of the Gawker network operates on this level. It also draws retards from places like 4chan into the site to "debate" them and vent their outrage. Trolling works, and it works well.


Good heavens. Trolling on the internet?
 
2012-12-05 10:43:25 AM  
Good luck running for office someday.
 
2012-12-05 10:43:37 AM  

Snarfangel: He just told you. Giles Goat Boy. Sheesh.


Don't push your furry porn fanfiction on us, Mister.
 
2012-12-05 10:44:07 AM  

liam76: I misunderstood you and after the dorm floor description and thought you were implying they had themt here..


Gotcha; I just meant that they can't even cook so the parties are booze-only. There are positives to that approach, but many negatives in hindsight as well. From a health and sexual assault point of view, there is basically nothing but negatives, come to think of it.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:43 AM  

serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?


Greeks are not considered a race. It's stereotypical, like Polish and Irish jokes.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:47 AM  

serial_crusher: minoridiot: They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.

I was going to say the same thing, but then I thought about the fact that if we interpreted "Mexican" to mean first-generation immigrants from Mexico to the US, that percentage would probably be even higher, especially if we included those here illegally (not sure if that survey did or not).

If the sorority intended the party to be themed after people actually living in Mexico, the stats would be irrelevant.


Generally speaking, first generation immigrants from Mexico tend to identify themselves as Mexican, not Hispanic. They reserve the Hispanic distinction for the folks who are more removed from their Mexican roots.

And Mexicans are not well liked throughout the rest of the Latin Americas. My wife once punched a guy in the thoat when he mistakenly called her Mexican.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:55 AM  
See, this cracks me up. Senior year of college, a frat decided to host a "Border Party". They used a picture that had been on the Daily Show (with a donkey in a sombrero in front of a fence, can't find it for the life of me).

The campus literally flipped its shiat. I mean literally. We had to have a 'sensitivity discussion' in every single class for a freaking day. By the time the second one rolled around, I'd had about enough. Was it offensive? Sure, about as offensive as any party theme that isn't "sit upright in folding chairs and sip at plain water and talk about the weather". I remember one of my classmates asking (after I'd said that it was about as offensive as anything else in life), "Well, what if they were making fun of your culture?"

I replied, "If they want to, they're welcome to! Though I'm not sure how exciting a euro-mutt party would be. I guess you could go for the English side with high tea, or the Scottish with kilts or something. Hell, if you wanted to be lazy you could do a white trash party I could farking care less! You want to do a freaks and geeks party? I'll supply the Rock Band and techno music for you. It has no impact on me, does nothing to any aspect of my life, and will be forgotten in about as long as it takes for the hangover to go away. Who. Farking. Cares."

Of course after this controversy every single offensive party was cancelled. The feminists freaked out over the "Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes" party, and blocked a major route on campus in protest.
 
2012-12-05 10:52:22 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.


This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist
 
2012-12-05 10:58:27 AM  
I have faith that these impressively open-minded young ladies are equally accepting of any humorous depictions of their university as a haven for pedophiles.
 
2012-12-05 11:00:45 AM  

Jument: That's terrible! Send them to me and I will administer spankings.


And then, the oral sex
 
2012-12-05 11:03:56 AM  

liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist


The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society. What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up. There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.

So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism.

Saying that the Japanese aren't racist and that there isn't racism in Japan is HORSE SH*T, however. Americans are far too new to have invented racism in any form.
 
2012-12-05 11:05:43 AM  

minoridiot: serial_crusher: minoridiot: They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.

I was going to say the same thing, but then I thought about the fact that if we interpreted "Mexican" to mean first-generation immigrants from Mexico to the US, that percentage would probably be even higher, especially if we included those here illegally (not sure if that survey did or not).

If the sorority intended the party to be themed after people actually living in Mexico, the stats would be irrelevant.

Generally speaking, first generation immigrants from Mexico tend to identify themselves as Mexican, not Hispanic. They reserve the Hispanic distinction for the folks who are more removed from their Mexican roots.

And Mexicans are not well liked throughout the rest of the Latin Americas. My wife once punched a guy in the thoat when he mistakenly called her Mexican.


Sounds like a mexicant
 
2012-12-05 11:07:37 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

Greeks are not considered a race. It's stereotypical, like Polish and Irish jokes.


You realise by your same logic we shouldn't be offended because Mexican isn't a race either?
 
2012-12-05 11:08:45 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-05 11:10:41 AM  
I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.
 
2012-12-05 11:11:11 AM  
Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun
 
2012-12-05 11:14:04 AM  
I'm multi-ethnic, so I offend myself constantly.
 
2012-12-05 11:22:06 AM  
"Mexi-chio night with lyrivi [heart emjoi] lol sombreros everywhere."

Pricipal . Caught sayof school that has stoped Handstandsing
 
2012-12-05 11:24:42 AM  
The more important question is when will the video from this party be on CollegeRules.com?
 
2012-12-05 11:27:04 AM  

quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.


Without a doubt, this is the funniest post to Fark in years. And you are in competition with masters of the craft such as spentmiles and Mike_LowELL.
 
2012-12-05 11:28:48 AM  

SlothB77: Rumors are flying another scandal is brewing out of Happy Valley that could be even worse than the Sandusky thing.


It's hard to imagine what could be worse than the Sandusky thing. Are they barbequeing newborns on an industrial scale?
 
2012-12-05 11:28:54 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun


She is the most famous Irexican on fark.
 
2012-12-05 11:30:31 AM  
As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).
 
2012-12-05 11:30:42 AM  
csb

In 1988 my fraternity had one of these. Just an excuse to drink Corona and invite the hotties to feed them margaritas.

There were 2 ponchos, one sombrero and a t-shirt with a jalapeno. Some idealist LULAC activist got ahold of the pics and threw a PC conniption (sp?). We had to be formally lectured about cultural sensitivity.

The one in the hat was Chilean. One of the ones in the ponchos was Mexican -- as in from Mexico City. Also in our house were 2 Koreans and a black guy. We were as diverse as the student body and more diverse than both the rest of the Greek system and the faculty.

/csb
 
2012-12-05 11:33:59 AM  

Banned on the Run: csb

In 1988 my fraternity had one of these. Just an excuse to drink Corona and invite the hotties to feed them margaritas.

There were 2 ponchos, one sombrero


That's disgusting.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:04 AM  
Looks like a lot of girls that i wouldn't mind seeing naked.

Someone get on that..chop chop!
 
2012-12-05 11:42:32 AM  

Banned on the Run: /csb


My school did the same shiat 3 years ago, saying we were racists and that we intentionally didn't let other ethnicities join. Meanwhile we had an African American, an actual African, and a pledge of Indian descent. That drove our percentage of diversity (11ish) past the school's 8 percent. Their percentage was driven up because they offered FREE RIDES to people from different countries and had a program which was basically a fraternity for them. So they never tried to socialize with us to begin with.
 
2012-12-05 11:45:41 AM  

Banned on the Run: The one in the hat was Chilean.


That's just a marketing gimmick. He was really Patagonian
 
2012-12-05 11:53:03 AM  

quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.


As a black guy, I retroactively approve of your party. Seriously though, when you put it like that it takes some of the edge off. For obvious reasons, people are sensitive about his kind of stuff but you hit the nail on the head when you speak about intent. I get that sometimes these things are done without malice, but it should also be understandable if we don't immediately give these people the benefit of doubt and assume that they meant no harm.
 
2012-12-05 11:54:09 AM  
So...I'm offended? Gotcha. Im married to a woman of Mexican descent, so i admit I'm pretty Good at mexican jokes. a lot of practice. But these women are all white, so they haven't met the quota. Also, itwas hard to know just how offended i should be from the article, because my initial reaction was to laugh. But I assume a Mexican might be offended, if they give a crap. So I feel as a white person, I too should be offended because I assume another might be offend. Am I doing this right?
 
2012-12-05 11:54:27 AM  

kingflower: As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).


Why is that? A student body of 94,000, 550,000 alumni and you've condemned them all to the "reject" pile sight unseen?
 
2012-12-05 11:57:34 AM  

thecpt: Mid_mo_mad_man: Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun

She is the most famous Irexican on fark.


Irexican? That's funny
 
2012-12-05 11:58:40 AM  
I humbly offer my services for the disciplining of these terrible terrible college girls...yes, they must be disciplined, lots of long, hard, sweaty discipline. I know, I know, this is a difficult task, and unpleasant, no doubt, but I am willing to step forward and do what must be done. In as many different ways as possible. I might have to apply discipline to 2, maybe 3 of these women at a time. But do not fear, I can handle this.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:04 AM  

Sgt Otter: Yeah, the lack of creativity here is just lame. Nearly all of them went with sombrero, poncho, and mustache.


No khaki Dickies and a plaid shirt buttoned all the way to the top? Roll up on a lowrider bicycle and you're the coolest vato there.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:05 AM  

Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.


shewhoprecedesmen.files.wordpress.com

please provide me a citation to the government preventing expression in this case.

/didn't think so
 
2012-12-05 12:02:25 PM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


Her Euclidean and Non-Euclidean Geometries final?

Hey-OOOOO!
 
2012-12-05 12:03:22 PM  
liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist

The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society. What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up. There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.

So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism.

Saying that the Japanese aren't racist and that there isn't racism in Japan is HORSE SH*T, however. Americans are far too new to have invented racism in any form
.


You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?
 
2012-12-05 12:10:56 PM  

manimal2878: serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.

I don't think many mexican resteraunts celabrating cinco de mayo would find signs, about smoking weed and mowing lawns funny on that day either.


Actually the signs are the only real issue imo.
 
2012-12-05 12:17:27 PM  

telejester: You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?


Wipe your tears, Scarlett, and read Liam76's posts over the past few years like I have. We end up in the same thread a lot because of the Penn State connection, and I have to assume based on the content of those posts, his name, and that he has no info in his profile.
 
2012-12-05 12:19:44 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Actually the signs are the only real issue imo.


The "will mow grass for beer+weed" is far worse of a mean stereotype of the two; the other is sort of rejecting the stereotype of Mexicans as maintenance crewmen and instead reinforcing the stereotype of the pot-head college student.

The signs were a bad idea.
 
2012-12-05 12:24:14 PM  
Wow, the topic is Mexicans and pedophilia and no Jesus Quintana? Big fail...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 12:31:09 PM  
It's not a stereoype of Mexicans, just god-awful Mexican-themed colege parties.

/thankfully not promoted as "Beaner Bash 2012"
//I'l sit over there
 
2012-12-05 12:31:52 PM  
You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.

Unless now "feel-good" = kid farking and "liberalism" = mocking poor Mexicans by dressing up like them while you drink excessively at a party filled with rich white people.
 
2012-12-05 12:33:07 PM  

factoryconnection: liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist

The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society.


I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.


factoryconnection: What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up.


I disagree. At one point that was the case, but most of the racism today isn't because of what happeend 100, or even 50 years ago.


factoryconnection: There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.


I agree there are echoes, but I don;t thinkt hat is the driving force today.

factoryconnection: So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism


If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.
 
2012-12-05 12:35:37 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.

As a black guy, I retroactively approve of your party. Seriously though, when you put it like that it takes some of the edge off. For obvious reasons, people are sensitive about his kind of stuff but you hit the nail on the head when you speak about intent. I get that sometimes these things are done without malice, but it should also be understandable if we don't immediately give these people the benefit of doubt and assume that they meant no harm.


Neat! I was saving a trump card in the case of backlash: black friends in college awarded me the privilege of being an honorary black guy, but I guess I didn't need that much justification. I learned the secret handshakes and was even allowed to say the n-word. That's like a magic power for a white guy!

As an aside, in college, we used to have lots of themed parties - just like liquor in general, it made it acceptable to act stupid. Mexican parties, Star Wars parties, even gilligan's island parties. All just in fun.
 
2012-12-05 12:35:48 PM  

factoryconnection: telejester: You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?

Wipe your tears, Scarlett, and read Liam76's posts over the past few years like I have. We end up in the same thread a lot because of the Penn State connection, and I have to assume based on the content of those posts, his name, and that he has no info in his profile.


check again.
 
2012-12-05 12:50:11 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.


These are probably all business students, thus not real liberal college students like the rest.
 
2012-12-05 12:52:06 PM  

liam76: check again.


I did miss that. If it isn't a captioned picture of a cat my mind does wander quickly.

liam76: I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.


I don't agree with that conclusion either. It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

liam76: If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.


But not institutional racism. The argument is a semantic one, but a significant difference.

liam76: I disagree. At one point that was the case, but most of the racism today isn't because of what happeend 100, or even 50 years ago.


The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with.
 
2012-12-05 12:58:01 PM  

kingflower: As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).


It's a good thing you do that. The current Penn State graduates were in 2nd grade during the first Sandusky 1998 incident. What's worse is that they were all in on it, too. Graham Spanier and Joe Paterno went around to second grade classrooms giving chocolate milk and stickers to all the kids (future PSU students) if they promised to keep quiet and not tell anyone about Sandusky.
 
2012-12-05 01:00:52 PM  

factoryconnection: The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with.


I always think that comes down to class war and not race war. It's just classes are scewed in America due to prior racism. Also those who grow up in ignorance of what is socially acceptable. When I first got to college one kid in my dorm blurted out that he was an "n-word (used actual word) loving jew." Awkward hilarity ensued as he was confronted by the two black kids who lived beside him.
 
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