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2012-12-05 07:27:16 AM  
What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

*RTFA*

Oh, uh, well.... That's indefensible.
 
2012-12-05 07:43:45 AM  
sorority girls putting the ass in class I see.
 
2012-12-05 07:51:15 AM  
i212.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 08:11:21 AM  
I thought the girls' signs were funny, so I must be an insensitive gringo.
 
2012-12-05 08:17:51 AM  
Not enough sharpie brows for that to be a real Mexican party.
 
2012-12-05 08:19:20 AM  
img.gawkerassets.com


Nice work.
 
2012-12-05 08:23:36 AM  
Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this
 
2012-12-05 08:25:28 AM  
How to have a cultural themed party without it looking racist? Hmmm.. difficult.
 
2012-12-05 08:37:36 AM  

Generation_D: [img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]


Nice work.



I think the girl over on the end got confused about the theme.
 
2012-12-05 08:39:33 AM  
Rumors are flying another scandal is brewing out of Happy Valley that could be even worse than the Sandusky thing.
 
2012-12-05 08:39:54 AM  
Came for "How much for your (sorority) sister?"
off to read the article...
 
2012-12-05 08:41:05 AM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


Glad she could join in?

basemetal: Not enough sharpie brows for that to be a real Mexican party.


These are suburban girls that have no concept of barrio life.
 
2012-12-05 08:45:49 AM  
Since I grew up in a college town, these never seem to leave my brain completely:

Whats the first thing a sorority girl does in the morning? A: walkshome. Alt: Puts her panties in her purse, then walks home.

Whats the difference between a toilet seat and a sorority girl? The toilet seat doesn't want to be taken to dinner after you use it.

.... and a few dozen more...
 
2012-12-05 08:54:44 AM  

AbbeySomeone: gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this

Glad she could join in?
basemetal: Not enough sharpie brows for that to be a real Mexican party.

These are suburban girls that have no concept of barrio life.


Yeah, the lack of creativity here is just lame. Nearly all of them went with sombrero, poncho, and mustache.
 
2012-12-05 09:01:56 AM  
Penn State is like the gift that keeps on giving. Almost like how intestinal flu keeps on giving. :/
 
2012-12-05 09:02:57 AM  
Good God, it looks like they broke into the Strategic Sombrero Reserve. Are there any straw hats left in Pennsylvania?
 
2012-12-05 09:03:58 AM  

OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?


I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.
 
2012-12-05 09:10:21 AM  
Tijuana donkey show or GTFO.
 
2012-12-05 09:16:40 AM  
Lame troll is lame. This is just typical college stupidity.
 
2012-12-05 09:16:54 AM  
that woman who's showing her leg in the first row, looks like she'd call rape on you if u barely even touched her
 
2012-12-05 09:17:32 AM  
We have bigger things to worry about. It's a f*cking party. I'm sure no real Mexicans were hurt.
 
2012-12-05 09:18:34 AM  
And people still say Penn State doesn't need a few years off from football culture?
 
2012-12-05 09:18:45 AM  
At least it went better than their annual "Noche de los Ninos"
 
2012-12-05 09:19:01 AM  
Article was nearly incomprehensible.
 
2012-12-05 09:19:26 AM  
Pedro-philia?
 
2012-12-05 09:20:55 AM  

serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.


I don't think many mexican resteraunts celabrating cinco de mayo would find signs, about smoking weed and mowing lawns funny on that day either.
 
2012-12-05 09:20:58 AM  

SlothB77: Rumors are flying another scandal is brewing out of Happy Valley that could be even worse than the Sandusky thing.


I'll bite. What rumors?
 
2012-12-05 09:21:15 AM  
Pedro Bear?
 
2012-12-05 09:21:20 AM  
I'm outraged at the outrage at the outrage.
 
2012-12-05 09:21:23 AM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


If she's American? Nothing special.

If she's actually Asian? What's the big deal. Mexico isn't nearly as bad as (insert your neighboring country here).
 
2012-12-05 09:21:26 AM  
Are st Patrick parties still ok?
 
2012-12-05 09:21:38 AM  
As a person of German descent, I want to complain about every Oktoberfest ever held. Beer, lederhosen, chicken dance...when will the stereotyping of my people end??!1!1!!1!!!!

In this case, at least children aren't being systematically raped, so this is actually PROGRESS for Penn State, isn't it?

I'd like to see Jerry Sandusky moved to a Mexican jail, btw.
 
2012-12-05 09:21:55 AM  

SlothB77: Rumors are flying another scandal is brewing out of Happy Valley that could be even worse than the Sandusky thing.


Do tell.
 
2012-12-05 09:21:56 AM  

serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?


It might get in to racist stereotyping territory if they start saying Greeks are poor, drunks and drug addicts. Like what happened here.
 
2012-12-05 09:22:12 AM  

The Muthaship: We have bigger things to worry about. It's a f*cking party. I'm sure no real Mexicans were hurt.


That's the problem, they didn't hire real Mexicans. A Mexican family went to bed hungry because an Anglo stole his job.
 
2012-12-05 09:22:28 AM  
Undergraduates do something stupid. News at 11.
 
2012-12-05 09:23:48 AM  
Looks like that sorority is going to get Sandusky'd.
 
2012-12-05 09:23:56 AM  
Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?
 
2012-12-05 09:24:41 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Article was nearly incomprehensible.


I need a Tylenol after reading that babble. And what the actual f*ck is a "lyrivie"?
 
2012-12-05 09:25:11 AM  
Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.
 
2012-12-05 09:25:16 AM  
Consideration, for your fellow man, would not hurt anybody, sure fits in with my plan.
 
2012-12-05 09:25:33 AM  
Proof #9832 that liberalism is a mental disorder.
 
2012-12-05 09:26:14 AM  

serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.


You are trying to apply logic to Political Correctness. Common mistake. Political Correctness is an emotional overreaction to a perceived insult where none exists.

My fraternity (founded by a bunch of ROTC cadets who thought most frats were full of assholes) held a Pearl Harbor Party on December 7th. Did we hold a memorial service for World War II vets? No, we dressed Hawaiian and got bombed. Featured drink besides beer was kamikazes. Fantastic friggen party, good times, no apologies.
 
2012-12-05 09:26:22 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

It might get in to racist stereotyping territory if they start saying Greeks are poor, drunks and drug addicts. Like what happened here.


How does a toga party not imply that the Greeks are poor, drunk, drug addicts? They have their bed sheets doing double duty as clothing because they spent all their money on kegs of cheap beer, skanky weed, and date rape drugs.
 
2012-12-05 09:26:43 AM  
media.comicvine.com
 
2012-12-05 09:26:51 AM  

WhippingBoy: Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?


Like what, wear green and drink heavily? That's ridiculous.
 
2012-12-05 09:27:46 AM  

Snarfangel: Like what, wear green and drink heavily? That's ridiculous.


As long as they don't imitate the Germans.....
 
2012-12-05 09:27:55 AM  

Snarfangel: WhippingBoy: Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?

Like what, wear green and drink heavily? That's ridiculous.


Don't forget the fighting...
 
2012-12-05 09:28:26 AM  
 
2012-12-05 09:29:03 AM  

Generation_D: Since I grew up in a college town, these never seem to leave my brain completely:

Whats the first thing a sorority girl does in the morning? A: walkshome. Alt: Puts her panties in her purse, then walks home.

Whats the difference between a toilet seat and a sorority girl? The toilet seat doesn't want to be taken to dinner after you use it.

.... and a few dozen more...


Most are interchangeable with blonde jokes, but still good. My favorite is," What is the sorority girl mating call? 'I am soooooooo drunk!!!'"
 
2012-12-05 09:29:21 AM  
The girl in the center right is the Mexican house maid they invited to be in the picture. None of the girls are standing near her because she, like, cleans the toilets and stuff.
img.gawkerassets.com
 
2012-12-05 09:29:51 AM  
big pity to peeps with no sense of humor. enjoy calling people who don't see life through your eyes racists, bigots, blah blah blah. everybody picks on and jokes about most other folks but can't do it in the open, honestly. everyone but uptight arseholes and butthurt college jerkoffs, activist dipshiats and holier than thou hypocrites. what bullshiat. especially in the USA melting pot where we have assholes from every country going. being in america is having non-stop comedy set-ups and joke punchlines everywhere you look. it's awesome. you don't get this kind if entertainment in third world shiatholes my friend.
 
2012-12-05 09:30:35 AM  
I'm offended! Where's my money???
 
2012-12-05 09:30:54 AM  

ChuDogg: Proof #9832 that liberalism is a mental disorder.


I live with my mom. Dude, you're not even trying.
 
2012-12-05 09:31:43 AM  
Meh. Penn State set the bar too high with child rape and the defense of child rapist enablers.
 
2012-12-05 09:31:44 AM  
It's time for someone to put their foot down. And that foot is me.
 
2012-12-05 09:31:45 AM  

WhippingBoy: Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?


They have parties where they serve mayonnaise sandwiches on white bread and Diet Coke and maybe Bud Light if they want to get crazy, and the women dress like soccer moms (with "mom jeans") and the men wear shorts with black socks and sandals and they speak with exaggerated, flat Midwestern accents and say things like, "Yeah, gotta take little Madison and Ashleigh down to their jazz dance lessons before their cello recitals, so I gotta gas up the minivan, dontchaknow?"

These parties are not fun.
 
2012-12-05 09:32:41 AM  

WhippingBoy: Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?


Hell, Chicago dies an entire river green and has a parade with giant inflatable Leprechauns.
ireland.mysteriousworld.com
Let's not forget the time when their former Community Organizer jokingly changed his last name to "O'Bama" on a taxpayer-funded trip to Ireland. Way to be racist, Chicago.
 
2012-12-05 09:33:00 AM  
Anyone else dreading what they're going to do on Martin Luther King day?
Hide the black face paint, watermelons & KFC buckets.
 
2012-12-05 09:33:15 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: And now for something completely different...


All of that made sense except the leaning tower of Eiffel.
 
2012-12-05 09:33:18 AM  
Sheltered, tiresome, dullard sorority girls are sheltered, tiresome, dullardly.
 
2012-12-05 09:35:32 AM  
Girls wearing too much poncho.
 
2012-12-05 09:35:34 AM  
this is so boring. Looks like one or two of them took a road trip down to South of the Border hellhole and bought their supply out of souvenir ponchos and sombreros. And the signs? Thats so stupid. I hate Soro-stitutes
 
2012-12-05 09:35:36 AM  
The Muthaship
We have bigger things to worry about. It's a f*cking party. I'm sure no real Mexicans were hurt.



People should be happy that they went for sombreros and lawn care instead of giving a more accurate portrait of Mexico by executing a dozen students from a rivaling sorority and putting the dismembered corpses on public display as a warning to others.
 
2012-12-05 09:36:45 AM  

Zumaki: .


This sounds like something a white person who uses stereotypes would say.
 
2012-12-05 09:36:55 AM  
racist party?

COWABUNGA!
 
2012-12-05 09:37:02 AM  
Ok, I freely admit it's been over 25 years since college, but WTF is "lyrivi"? And why is it so important it was mentioned twice?

Google has nothing in a language I can read (also known as "english")
 
2012-12-05 09:37:22 AM  

The Voice of Doom: The Muthaship
We have bigger things to worry about. It's a f*cking party. I'm sure no real Mexicans were hurt.


People should be happy that they went for sombreros and lawn care instead of giving a more accurate portrait of Mexico by executing a dozen students from a rivaling sorority and putting the dismembered corpses on public display as a warning to others.


That would make for a much more entertaining news story.
 
2012-12-05 09:37:46 AM  

skremnjava: this is so boring. Looks like one or two of them took a road trip down to South of the Border hellhole and bought their supply out of souvenir ponchos and sombreros. And the signs? Thats so stupid. I hate Soro-stitutes


Surely this is something we can all agree on. Whether you're offended by the racism or not, the sheer lameness of it is insufferable.
 
2012-12-05 09:38:15 AM  
i26.photobucket.com

/get to use this one a lot around here. FARK is full of people just waiting to be butthurt
 
2012-12-05 09:39:11 AM  

someonelse: Sheltered, tiresome, dullard sorority girls are sheltered, tiresome, dullardly.


But if you pour enough tequila down their throats, they are hot strippers who want someone to demonstrate a Dirty Sanchez on them in a spare bedroom.

You must have spent an inordinate amount of time at the library and/or organizing poetry readings in college.
 
2012-12-05 09:40:29 AM  
www.boston.com

I would have gone as Slow Poke
 
2012-12-05 09:42:37 AM  
Ahhh...good old political correctness and it's cousin, cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, we're all supposed to tacitly acknowledge and accept the fact that large numbers of Mexicans illegally enter the US and take low-level manual labor jobs doing landscaping or working in food service. OTOH, acknowledging this reality constitutes racism.

And yes, Mexicans smoke weed. So do Americans, Asians, Europeans, and Africans. Hell, people at the research stations in Antarctica probably have a stash. So, again, how is acknowledging reality "racist"?

/end rant
 
2012-12-05 09:43:12 AM  
Well, it's not like they're farking kids up the ass in the shower, then covering it up.
 
2012-12-05 09:45:06 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: And now for something completely different...


I'm not sure what that was exactly, but I like it! Thanks. Now I'll have that song stuck in my head for days.

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.


Exactly this. I have to say though, that as a Chicano, I am offended that they went with the wrong stereotype. You wanna dress up as Mexicans? Where the heck are the mariachis, the flamenco dancers, the girls wearing Sharpied eyebrows and the loads of makeup that make clowns look natural? Or the cleaning ladies, lunch ladies, McDonald's workers, nannies, janitors, and the occasional Mexican wearing a wifebeater while drinking Bud Light? I mean come on!
 
2012-12-05 09:45:12 AM  
I'm offended at the lack of creativity. They're ALL poncho.
 
2012-12-05 09:45:24 AM  
This thread is gonna have a close finish for most obtuse poster. It's really quite impressive.
 
2012-12-05 09:45:51 AM  

SkylineRecords: At least it went better than their annual "Noche de los Ninos"


Which is of course Spanish for "night of the ninos".
 
2012-12-05 09:46:09 AM  
In an effort to get people to finally stop talking about pedophilia at Penn State, sorority decides to hold Mexican-themed party. With predictable results

Rhythmic, wet slapping noises?
 
2012-12-05 09:48:09 AM  
Penn State Sorority Holds Mexican-Themed Party, Proves Once Again That Mexican-Themed Parties Are a Bad Idea ruined by social media

FTFY
 
2012-12-05 09:48:18 AM  

mcwehrle: Ok, I freely admit it's been over 25 years since college, but WTF is "lyrivi"? And why is it so important it was mentioned twice?

Google has nothing in a language I can read (also known as "english")


"Mexi-chio night with lyrivi [heart emjoi] lol sombreros everywhere."

I believe she is trying to spell livery.
 
2012-12-05 09:48:34 AM  
The Second Mile is always the hardest mile.
 
2012-12-05 09:48:51 AM  
I think it's funny. fark you politically correct douche-canoes!
 
2012-12-05 09:49:46 AM  
This merited a newspiece? Seriously, who cares? Call me when they're throwing a watermelon and fried chicken mixer, replete with 40's, blackface, mami dolls, stirring renditions of "Pick A Bale of Cotton", and whipping a brother named Toby.
 
2012-12-05 09:49:52 AM  
i think it would have been fine but for the signs.

/ imagine dressing up like a leprechaun for st patrick's day, but carrying a sign that says i blow up protestants... :(
// or, just carrying bombs. not very nice. 
/// also, pretty sure that white kids smoke a lot more pot than mexicans, and are probably less likely have any respect for the fine art of proper lawn maintenance and proper landscaping.
 
2012-12-05 09:50:01 AM  
Remember yeeears ago when Bob & Doug Mackenzie inspired all those plaid-shirt hoser parties? WELL, I'M OFFENDED AND DEMAND AN APOLOGY (and a dozen donuts, eh)!
 
2012-12-05 09:51:57 AM  

oldfarthenry: Remember yeeears ago when Bob & Doug Mackenzie inspired all those plaid-shirt hoser parties? WELL, I'M OFFENDED AND DEMAND AN APOLOGY (and a dozen donuts, eh)!


Strange Brew was a documentary.
 
2012-12-05 09:52:45 AM  
Racism? IN CENTRE COUNTY?

HOLD THE PHONE a minute here.
 
2012-12-05 09:53:04 AM  

Jake Havechek: oldfarthenry: Remember yeeears ago when Bob & Doug Mackenzie inspired all those plaid-shirt hoser parties? WELL, I'M OFFENDED AND DEMAND AN APOLOGY (and a dozen donuts, eh)!

Strange Brew was a documentary.


After standing in line at Timmy's this morning I have to concur.
 
2012-12-05 09:53:59 AM  

Doom MD: This merited a newspiece? Seriously, who cares? Call me when they're throwing a watermelon and fried chicken mixer, replete with 40's, blackface, mami dolls, stirring renditions of "Pick A Bale of Cotton", and whipping a brother named Toby.


oh lawdy.
Btw, it mammy.
 
2012-12-05 09:54:52 AM  

BullBearMS: [dl.dropbox.com image 625x421]


i478.photobucket.com

 
2012-12-05 09:56:17 AM  

TheLopper: This thread is gonna have a close finish for most obtuse poster. It's really quite impressive.


It's promising to make for a delightful morning.
 
2012-12-05 09:57:57 AM  

Sybarite: mcwehrle: Ok, I freely admit it's been over 25 years since college, but WTF is "lyrivi"? And why is it so important it was mentioned twice?

Google has nothing in a language I can read (also known as "english")

"Mexi-chio night with lyrivi [heart emjoi] lol sombreros everywhere."

I believe she is trying to spell livery.


Maybe, I have no clue. I also only know 'emjoi' as a depilatory device....so she's happy to be hairless with livery? So....hairless under a maid costume? NOW it's starting to make sense.....
 
2012-12-05 09:59:14 AM  

gretzkyscores: Ahhh...good old political correctness and it's cousin, cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, we're all supposed to tacitly acknowledge and accept the fact that large numbers of Mexicans illegally enter the US and take low-level manual labor jobs doing landscaping or working in food service. OTOH, acknowledging this reality constitutes racism.

And yes, Mexicans smoke weed. So do Americans, Asians, Europeans, and Africans. Hell, people at the research stations in Antarctica probably have a stash. So, again, how is acknowledging reality "racist"?

/end rant


But they weren't acknowledging that reality. They all came wearing ponchos. Not a landscaper in the bunch. No hair nets, nada! I'm offended. Having worn a hairnet at one time, I want this rectified, immediately. Btw, where are the dickeys and flannels only buttoned on the top? The pool of stereotypes is full and deep and these sorority girls only skim the top. Again, I say WTH?
 
2012-12-05 10:00:14 AM  
I would have gone with a "no, we're the ones with the priests that don't rape kids, thankyouverymuch"

/ unless Mexican priests do like kids
 
2012-12-05 10:00:57 AM  

Sunrazor: Again, I say WTH?


It's a sorority, conformity is their goal.
 
2012-12-05 10:01:22 AM  
i190.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 10:01:39 AM  

The Muthaship: Sunrazor: Again, I say WTH?

It's a sorority, conformity is their goal.


And group cunnilingus on Friday nights.
 
2012-12-05 10:02:57 AM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


She was feeling a little let-down because the girls didn't invite me so I could show her my long Juan.
 
2012-12-05 10:03:25 AM  

Sunrazor: bubo_sibiricus: And now for something completely different...

I'm not sure what that was exactly, but I like it! Thanks. Now I'll have that song stuck in my head for days.

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.

Exactly this. I have to say though, that as a Chicano, I am offended that they went with the wrong stereotype. You wanna dress up as Mexicans? Where the heck are the mariachis, the flamenco dancers, the girls wearing Sharpied eyebrows and the loads of makeup that make clowns look natural? Or the cleaning ladies, lunch ladies, McDonald's workers, nannies, janitors, and the occasional Mexican wearing a wifebeater while drinking Bud Light? I mean come on!


You nailed it by mentioning Bud Light. Back in high school, I worked at a grocery store.....and it didn't take long to notice that Bud Light was the top choice of our Latino customers.
 
2012-12-05 10:03:32 AM  

AngryPanda: Racism? IN CENTRE COUNTY?

HOLD THE PHONE a minute here.


It's only really racist if they ignore it
Oh, wait.
 
2012-12-05 10:04:06 AM  

The Voice of Doom: The Muthaship
We have bigger things to worry about. It's a f*cking party. I'm sure no real Mexicans were hurt.


People should be happy that they went for sombreros and lawn care instead of giving a more accurate portrait of Mexico by executing a dozen students from a rivaling sorority and putting the dismembered corpses on public display as a warning to others.


While stereotyping all Mexicans by the actions of the Mexican drug cartels is pretty stupid, I wouldn't really have a problem, had the sorority taken your suggestion, if only because it would have rid the world of 12 sororitards.

\baby steps, people
 
2012-12-05 10:04:09 AM  
PEDRO PLEASE
 
2012-12-05 10:05:07 AM  
I wonder how the African Americans in the sorority felt about it. Opps, me bad, there are none.
 
2012-12-05 10:05:35 AM  
So, does PSU still make sororities stay in on-campus housing?
 
2012-12-05 10:06:30 AM  

McDriver: PEDRO PLEASE


Ha!

So is the Mexican version of Pedo Bear called Pedro Bear?
 
2012-12-05 10:08:15 AM  

The_Sponge: Sunrazor: bubo_sibiricus: And now for something completely different...

I'm not sure what that was exactly, but I like it! Thanks. Now I'll have that song stuck in my head for days.

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.

Exactly this. I have to say though, that as a Chicano, I am offended that they went with the wrong stereotype. You wanna dress up as Mexicans? Where the heck are the mariachis, the flamenco dancers, the girls wearing Sharpied eyebrows and the loads of makeup that make clowns look natural? Or the cleaning ladies, lunch ladies, McDonald's workers, nannies, janitors, and the occasional Mexican wearing a wifebeater while drinking Bud Light? I mean come on!

You nailed it by mentioning Bud Light. Back in high school, I worked at a grocery store.....and it didn't take long to notice that Bud Light was the top choice of our Latino customers.


'round thes parts it's Tecate and Modelo Especial.
 
2012-12-05 10:08:27 AM  

Doom MD: This merited a newspiece? Seriously, who cares? Call me when they're throwing a watermelon and fried chicken mixer, replete with 40's, blackface, mami dolls, stirring renditions of "Pick A Bale of Cotton", and whipping a brother named Toby.


This merited a blog post. There is no layout concerns, advertising/print media cost trade-offs, timing, etc... they put scarcely more effort into that article than we do into our posts on here. If they think it, they can post it.

Cythraul: How to have a cultural themed party without it looking racist? Hmmm.. difficult.


Especially considering that they can't even throw cuisine into the mix. Sororities at Penn State have "houses" that are actually just one level or a pair of levels in a dorm building. They have no kitchens, so that means "order delivery from La Bamba and get a keg of Natty or maybe rent a margarita machine. Wait, skip the food; I'm feeling fat."

Culturally insensitive and unoriginal, but like someone said at least they didn't murder half of the rival Tri-Deltas. Chi-Os and Tri-Delts were always the top of the hot-chick pecking order in the very large sorority system at Penn State when I was there. They are all very good at raising money for children's cancer treatment and research and looking hot and that's about it.
 
2012-12-05 10:09:16 AM  
When people talk about a Mexican theme party they mean salsa, tacos, enchiladas, maybe a pinata, not a bunch of idiots dressing like what would be considered ruining a perfectly good blanket in Mexico.

I'm just waiting for the "Black people" theme party, all of them in black face and holding a bucket of KFC.
 
2012-12-05 10:09:50 AM  

Sunrazor: bubo_sibiricus: And now for something completely different...

I'm not sure what that was exactly, but I like it! Thanks. Now I'll have that song stuck in my head for days.

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.

Exactly this. I have to say though, that as a Chicano, I am offended that they went with the wrong stereotype. You wanna dress up as Mexicans? Where the heck are the mariachis, the flamenco dancers, the girls wearing Sharpied eyebrows and the loads of makeup that make clowns look natural? Or the cleaning ladies, lunch ladies, McDonald's workers, nannies, janitors, and the occasional Mexican wearing a wifebeater while drinking Bud Light? I mean come on!


What Mexicans dressing up as Mexicans might look like:

newsimg.bbc.co.uk

www.dw.de

www.soundersfc.com

sombreros!

farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2012-12-05 10:10:43 AM  
Oh fark. my sister is in that picture.

from the comments:


Gawker has an interesting business model. Find a news story about someone somewhere doing something that they know the insufferable megalomaniacs who frequent the site will find offensive, then sit back while thousands trip over themselves in a self-flagulating circle jerk to prove they are singularly the most offended, most progressive thinking, most morally righteous. commenter in the world or between Red Hook to DUMBO whichever is larger.
 
2012-12-05 10:11:22 AM  
why is the one chick sniffing her finger...
 
2012-12-05 10:11:43 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [media.comicvine.com image 323x338]


Thanks, that was I was looking for.
 
2012-12-05 10:12:23 AM  

The_Sponge: McDriver: PEDRO PLEASE

Ha!

So is the Mexican version of Pedo Bear called Pedro Bear?


Si

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-12-05 10:12:35 AM  
That's terrible! Send them to me and I will administer spankings.
 
2012-12-05 10:12:44 AM  

big pig peaches: Are st Patrick parties still ok?


Only if you portray a drunk Mick.
 
2012-12-05 10:13:30 AM  
I don't see how this is wrong.

After all, the people they are "mocking" are the descendants of a European colonial empire that butchered a native culture and oppressed enslaved Africans. Perhaps they deserve it.
 
2012-12-05 10:14:03 AM  

vudukungfu: It's only really racist if they ignore it
Oh, wait.


Slightly confused; the CDT had an article about it.

blackhonda: I wonder how the African Americans in the sorority felt about it. Opps, me bad, there are none.


The black sorority sisters are in the black sororities. I believe the PHC is a form of voluntary segregation, because I've known sorostitutes of all races in the "white" sororities but only black girls in AKA, etc... My sample pool is limited, though.
 
2012-12-05 10:15:17 AM  

factoryconnection: Especially considering that they can't even throw cuisine into the mix. Sororities at Penn State have "houses" that are actually just one level or a pair of levels in a dorm building. They have no kitchens, so that means "order delivery from La BambaMad Mex and get a keg of Natty or maybe rent a margarita machine. Wait, skip the food; I'm feeling fat."


La Bamba is closed.

Plus they can't have booze int he dorm buildings.
 
2012-12-05 10:16:14 AM  
Link

"3. How large is the Latino population?
Hispanics make up the largest ethnic minority in the country. In 2010, the estimated Hispanic population in the U.S. was 50.5 million, constituting 16% of the nation's total population.
This estimate does not include the 3.7 million residents of Puerto Rico."

"12. What types of jobs do Latinos hold?
The Hispanic population is represented in a wide variety of occupations. For instance, in 2009 there were 57,000 Hispanic physicians and surgeons; 202,000 middle school teachers; 74,000 chief executives of businesses; 30,000 lawyers; and 284,000 fire fighters. In 2010, only about one in five (19%) Hispanics worked in management and professional occupations. However, Hispanics are disproportionately employed in service and support occupations. More than one in four (26%) work in service occupations; 21% in sales and office jobs; 16% in natural resources, construction, and maintenance jobs; and 17% in production, transportation, and material-moving occupations."


Not saying these Caitlins aren't sheltered twits with no understanding of other cultures or sympathy (how should I know?), but are we supposed to pretend that the largest ethnic group in the country does not have 1 in 4 members working in service industries?

Where do culture and statistics end, and PC sensitivity begin?
 
2012-12-05 10:16:27 AM  

duffblue: Oh fark. my sister is in that picture.

from the comments:


Gawker has an interesting business model. Find a news story about someone somewhere doing something that they know the insufferable megalomaniacs who frequent the site will find offensive, then sit back while thousands trip over themselves in a self-flagulating circle jerk to prove they are singularly the most offended, most progressive thinking, most morally righteous. commenter in the world or between Red Hook to DUMBO whichever is larger.


U Mad, Bro?
 
2012-12-05 10:16:49 AM  
This would have been no big deal at all if they just found a brain cell somewhere and realized the signs were not a good thing.
 
2012-12-05 10:17:12 AM  
If I am ever invited to such a party, I will go as as a Mexican wrestler.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-05 10:18:18 AM  

schnee: Pedro-philia?


i758.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 10:18:49 AM  

vudukungfu: AngryPanda: Racism? IN CENTRE COUNTY?

HOLD THE PHONE a minute here.

It's only really racist if they ignore it
Oh, wait.


Interesting: The Penn State cheerleader who fell five stories out of a window in October

I think some Mexican college students should have a Penn State party where they dress up as pedophiles, drunk cheerleaders falling out of windows and white kids dressing up as Mexican stereotypes.
 
2012-12-05 10:19:22 AM  

liam76: La Bamba is closed.

Plus they can't have booze int he dorm buildings.


The hell you say?!?! How the hell did that place not succeed? I have a nostalgia sad for burritos as big as my head.

However, they rent out frat houses or event spaces for socials like these; you can see the wall behind them is a chapter picture away from being textbook fraternity house. There, they drink. This isn't new.
 
2012-12-05 10:20:43 AM  

AngryPanda: Racism? IN CENTRE COUNTY?

HOLD THE PHONE a minute here.


Yeah. Grew up there. Holy crap that place is sheltered.

Anyways, we threw a south of the border party in college. Corona and tequila, sombreros, and an inflatable pool in our room in December with inflatable beer pong. Farking great party. Good looking girls stripped down and went in.
 
2012-12-05 10:21:02 AM  

duffblue: Oh fark. my sister is in that picture.

from the comments:


Gawker has an interesting business model. Find a news story about someone somewhere doing something that they know the insufferable megalomaniacs who frequent the site will find offensive, then sit back while thousands trip over themselves in a self-flagulating circle jerk to prove they are singularly the most offended, most progressive thinking, most morally righteous. commenter in the world or between Red Hook to DUMBO whichever is larger.


Jezebel is the same. Pretty much the entirety of the Gawker network operates on this level. It also draws retards from places like 4chan into the site to "debate" them and vent their outrage. Trolling works, and it works well.
 
2012-12-05 10:21:05 AM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


"Hope they don`t think I am native american"
 
2012-12-05 10:21:33 AM  
I remember when I had freedom of speech.
 
2012-12-05 10:21:38 AM  

lordjupiter: Link

"3. How large is the Latino population?
Hispanics make up the largest ethnic minority in the country. In 2010, the estimated Hispanic population in the U.S. was 50.5 million, constituting 16% of the nation's total population. This estimate does not include the 3.7 million residents of Puerto Rico."

"12. What types of jobs do Latinos hold?
The Hispanic population is represented in a wide variety of occupations. For instance, in 2009 there were 57,000 Hispanic physicians and surgeons; 202,000 middle school teachers; 74,000 chief executives of businesses; 30,000 lawyers; and 284,000 fire fighters. In 2010, only about one in five (19%) Hispanics worked in management and professional occupations. However, Hispanics are disproportionately employed in service and support occupations. More than one in four (26%) work in service occupations; 21% in sales and office jobs; 16% in natural resources, construction, and maintenance jobs; and 17% in production, transportation, and material-moving occupations."


Not saying these Caitlins aren't sheltered twits with no understanding of other cultures or sympathy (how should I know?), but are we supposed to pretend that the largest ethnic group in the country does not have 1 in 4 members working in service industries?

Where do culture and statistics end, and PC sensitivity begin?


They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.
 
2012-12-05 10:23:18 AM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


Me rikey?

/yeah, I know I'm not helping, but trust me, this is better than all the "busted pinata" jokes I had.
 
2012-12-05 10:25:31 AM  
If they truly wanted to stereotype Mexico maybe they should have all been holding AK47's and bricks of cocaine.
 
2012-12-05 10:25:40 AM  
Yay! ignorance is fun when cute white girls use it.
Yeah the signs are funny, in a 1960's sort of way - you know when oppression was the norm.
Worthy of outrage? not from me, only pity and disappointment.
If I was cuttin' the check each year I'd want some back.
 
2012-12-05 10:26:46 AM  

big pig peaches: Are st Patrick parties still ok?


I think the difference is that A) the Irish are no longer a population in the U.S. that is habitually exploited and subject to hostile treatment both literally and in the media, so stereotyping the Irish doesn't have the same meaning or carry the same cultural impact; B) it isn't just the sombreros, it's also the signs that characterize Mexicans as lazy and/or stoned lawn workers. It's pretty much a Mexican minstrel show.

I teach at Penn State, so I'm looking to see if one of these idiots is in my class. Plus I'm getting a kick, etc...
 
2012-12-05 10:28:37 AM  

minoridiot: lordjupiter: Link

"3. How large is the Latino population?
Hispanics make up the largest ethnic minority in the country. In 2010, the estimated Hispanic population in the U.S. was 50.5 million, constituting 16% of the nation's total population. This estimate does not include the 3.7 million residents of Puerto Rico."

"12. What types of jobs do Latinos hold?
The Hispanic population is represented in a wide variety of occupations. For instance, in 2009 there were 57,000 Hispanic physicians and surgeons; 202,000 middle school teachers; 74,000 chief executives of businesses; 30,000 lawyers; and 284,000 fire fighters. In 2010, only about one in five (19%) Hispanics worked in management and professional occupations. However, Hispanics are disproportionately employed in service and support occupations. More than one in four (26%) work in service occupations; 21% in sales and office jobs; 16% in natural resources, construction, and maintenance jobs; and 17% in production, transportation, and material-moving occupations."


Not saying these Caitlins aren't sheltered twits with no understanding of other cultures or sympathy (how should I know?), but are we supposed to pretend that the largest ethnic group in the country does not have 1 in 4 members working in service industries?

Where do culture and statistics end, and PC sensitivity begin?

They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.


I knew this was coming.
.
So what? Does that matter to the point? No. And if you read the link I posted you'd see that 65% of the Latino population are Mexican.


"1. Who makes up the U.S. Hispanic population?
Hispanics are an ethnically and racially diverse population. In 2009, the Latino population on the U.S. mainland was composed of Mexican Americans (65%), Puerto Ricans (9%), Cubans (3.5%), Salvadorans (3.2%), and Dominicans (2.7%). The remainder is composed of Central Americans, South Americans, or people of other Hispanic or Latino origins (15.4%)."

There is no breakdown in the link as to whether or not the ethnic divisions are the same among occupations.

But again, it doesn't matter for the purposes of general perception. I doubt many people (even Latinos) can always tell the difference in ethnicities among Latinos.
 
2012-12-05 10:31:02 AM  

farkingnotworking: big pig peaches: Are st Patrick parties still ok?

I think the difference is that A) the Irish are no longer a population in the U.S. that is habitually exploited and subject to hostile treatment both literally and in the media, so stereotyping the Irish doesn't have the same meaning or carry the same cultural impact; B) it isn't just the sombreros, it's also the signs that characterize Mexicans as lazy and/or stoned lawn workers. It's pretty much a Mexican minstrel show.

I teach at Penn State, so I'm looking to see if one of these idiots is in my class. Plus I'm getting a kick, etc...


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 10:31:45 AM  
.... sorority girls dressed as Mexicans complete with mustaches. There has to be a porn movie somewhere waiting for me to rent.

//got the weirdest boner right now....
 
2012-12-05 10:31:57 AM  

The_Sponge: McDriver: PEDRO PLEASE

Ha!

So is the Mexican version of Pedo Bear called Pedro Bear?


Si
 
2012-12-05 10:32:07 AM  

lordjupiter: minoridiot: lordjupiter: Link

"3. How large is the Latino population?
Hispanics make up the largest ethnic minority in the country. In 2010, the estimated Hispanic population in the U.S. was 50.5 million, constituting 16% of the nation's total population. This estimate does not include the 3.7 million residents of Puerto Rico."

"12. What types of jobs do Latinos hold?
The Hispanic population is represented in a wide variety of occupations. For instance, in 2009 there were 57,000 Hispanic physicians and surgeons; 202,000 middle school teachers; 74,000 chief executives of businesses; 30,000 lawyers; and 284,000 fire fighters. In 2010, only about one in five (19%) Hispanics worked in management and professional occupations. However, Hispanics are disproportionately employed in service and support occupations. More than one in four (26%) work in service occupations; 21% in sales and office jobs; 16% in natural resources, construction, and maintenance jobs; and 17% in production, transportation, and material-moving occupations."


Not saying these Caitlins aren't sheltered twits with no understanding of other cultures or sympathy (how should I know?), but are we supposed to pretend that the largest ethnic group in the country does not have 1 in 4 members working in service industries?

Where do culture and statistics end, and PC sensitivity begin?

They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.

I knew this was coming.
.
So what? Does that matter to the point? No. And if you read the link I posted you'd see that 65% of the Latino population are Mexican.


"1. Who makes up the U.S. Hispanic population?
Hispanics are an ethnically and racially diverse population. In 2009, the Latino population on the U.S. mainland was composed of Mexican Americans (65%), Puerto Ricans (9%), Cubans (3.5%), Salvadorans (3.2%), and Dominicans (2.7%). The remainder is composed of Central Americans, South Americans, or people of other Hispanic or Latino origins (15.4%)."

There is no breakdown in the link as to whether or not the ethnic divisions are the same among occupations.

But again, it doesn't matter for the purposes of general perception. I doubt many people (even Latinos) can always tell the difference in ethnicities among Latinos.


Because only whites can be racist. They are all born rich and priveleged, silver spoon in their mouth born on third base and think they hit a triple. The world will be a better place when they are bred out.

The professor has spoken and blessed us with his infinite wisdom. So you can shut up now.
 
2012-12-05 10:32:47 AM  

farkingnotworking: big pig peaches: Are st Patrick parties still ok?

I think the difference is that A) the Irish are no longer a population in the U.S. that is habitually exploited and subject to hostile treatment both literally and in the media, so stereotyping the Irish doesn't have the same meaning or carry the same cultural impact; B) it isn't just the sombreros, it's also the signs that characterize Mexicans as lazy and/or stoned lawn workers. It's pretty much a Mexican minstrel show.

I teach at Penn State, so I'm looking to see if one of these idiots is in my class.


Ah, trying to score with one of the not-so-bright sorority chicks. You sly devil.
 
2012-12-05 10:35:41 AM  

WhippingBoy: Snarfangel: WhippingBoy: Do other ethnicities ever hold "white" parties? Like dressing up as an Irishman on certain days of the year?

Like what, wear green and drink heavily? That's ridiculous.

Don't forget the fighting...


images.channelone.com
 
2012-12-05 10:36:16 AM  

ChuDogg: Because only whites can be racist. They are all born rich and priveleged, silver spoon in their mouth born on third base and think they hit a triple. The world will be a better place when they are bred out.

The professor has spoken and blessed us with his infinite wisdom. So you can shut up now.


farm3.staticflickr.com

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.
 
2012-12-05 10:37:03 AM  

Happy Hours: uncle_sambrero_says_get_used_to_it.jpeg


There's no getting used to Penn State, my friend. This is a weird, weird, farked up place.  It's no accident that John Barth wrote Giles Goat Boy (a story about a man raised by goats at a land grant university where the faculty have become slaves to waring factions of computers) just after he had taught here.
 
2012-12-05 10:37:42 AM  

minoridiot: They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.


I was going to say the same thing, but then I thought about the fact that if we interpreted "Mexican" to mean first-generation immigrants from Mexico to the US, that percentage would probably be even higher, especially if we included those here illegally (not sure if that survey did or not).

If the sorority intended the party to be themed after people actually living in Mexico, the stats would be irrelevant.
 
2012-12-05 10:39:06 AM  

factoryconnection: liam76: La Bamba is closed.

Plus they can't have booze int he dorm buildings.

The hell you say?!?! How the hell did that place not succeed? I have a nostalgia sad for burritos as big as my head.


Yeah no idea how the la bamba business model failed.

However, they rent out frat houses or event spaces for socials like these; you can see the wall behind them is a chapter picture away from being textbook fraternity house. There, they drink. This isn't new.

I have been asked to leave a few.

I misunderstood you and after the dorm floor description and thought you were implying they had themt here..
 
2012-12-05 10:39:33 AM  

BronyMedic


Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.
 
2012-12-05 10:39:42 AM  

farkingnotworking: Happy Hours: uncle_sambrero_says_get_used_to_it.jpeg

There's no getting used to Penn State, my friend. This is a weird, weird, farked up place.  It's no accident that John Barth wrote Giles Goat Boy (a story about a man raised by goats at a land grant university where the faculty have become slaves to waring factions of computers) just after he had taught here.



What the fark am I are you reading?
 
2012-12-05 10:41:52 AM  

Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.


Don't be fatuous, you fool.
 
2012-12-05 10:42:44 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: farkingnotworking: Happy Hours: uncle_sambrero_says_get_used_to_it.jpeg

There's no getting used to Penn State, my friend. This is a weird, weird, farked up place.  It's no accident that John Barth wrote Giles Goat Boy (a story about a man raised by goats at a land grant university where the faculty have become slaves to waring factions of computers) just after he had taught here.


What the fark am I are you reading?


He just told you. Giles Goat Boy. Sheesh.
 
2012-12-05 10:43:24 AM  

ChuDogg: duffblue: Oh fark. my sister is in that picture.

from the comments:


Gawker has an interesting business model. Find a news story about someone somewhere doing something that they know the insufferable megalomaniacs who frequent the site will find offensive, then sit back while thousands trip over themselves in a self-flagulating circle jerk to prove they are singularly the most offended, most progressive thinking, most morally righteous. commenter in the world or between Red Hook to DUMBO whichever is larger.

Jezebel is the same. Pretty much the entirety of the Gawker network operates on this level. It also draws retards from places like 4chan into the site to "debate" them and vent their outrage. Trolling works, and it works well.


Good heavens. Trolling on the internet?
 
2012-12-05 10:43:25 AM  
Good luck running for office someday.
 
2012-12-05 10:43:37 AM  

Snarfangel: He just told you. Giles Goat Boy. Sheesh.


Don't push your furry porn fanfiction on us, Mister.
 
2012-12-05 10:44:07 AM  

liam76: I misunderstood you and after the dorm floor description and thought you were implying they had themt here..


Gotcha; I just meant that they can't even cook so the parties are booze-only. There are positives to that approach, but many negatives in hindsight as well. From a health and sexual assault point of view, there is basically nothing but negatives, come to think of it.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:43 AM  

serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?


Greeks are not considered a race. It's stereotypical, like Polish and Irish jokes.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:47 AM  

serial_crusher: minoridiot: They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.

I was going to say the same thing, but then I thought about the fact that if we interpreted "Mexican" to mean first-generation immigrants from Mexico to the US, that percentage would probably be even higher, especially if we included those here illegally (not sure if that survey did or not).

If the sorority intended the party to be themed after people actually living in Mexico, the stats would be irrelevant.


Generally speaking, first generation immigrants from Mexico tend to identify themselves as Mexican, not Hispanic. They reserve the Hispanic distinction for the folks who are more removed from their Mexican roots.

And Mexicans are not well liked throughout the rest of the Latin Americas. My wife once punched a guy in the thoat when he mistakenly called her Mexican.
 
2012-12-05 10:49:55 AM  
See, this cracks me up. Senior year of college, a frat decided to host a "Border Party". They used a picture that had been on the Daily Show (with a donkey in a sombrero in front of a fence, can't find it for the life of me).

The campus literally flipped its shiat. I mean literally. We had to have a 'sensitivity discussion' in every single class for a freaking day. By the time the second one rolled around, I'd had about enough. Was it offensive? Sure, about as offensive as any party theme that isn't "sit upright in folding chairs and sip at plain water and talk about the weather". I remember one of my classmates asking (after I'd said that it was about as offensive as anything else in life), "Well, what if they were making fun of your culture?"

I replied, "If they want to, they're welcome to! Though I'm not sure how exciting a euro-mutt party would be. I guess you could go for the English side with high tea, or the Scottish with kilts or something. Hell, if you wanted to be lazy you could do a white trash party I could farking care less! You want to do a freaks and geeks party? I'll supply the Rock Band and techno music for you. It has no impact on me, does nothing to any aspect of my life, and will be forgotten in about as long as it takes for the hangover to go away. Who. Farking. Cares."

Of course after this controversy every single offensive party was cancelled. The feminists freaked out over the "Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes" party, and blocked a major route on campus in protest.
 
2012-12-05 10:52:22 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.


This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist
 
2012-12-05 10:58:27 AM  
I have faith that these impressively open-minded young ladies are equally accepting of any humorous depictions of their university as a haven for pedophiles.
 
2012-12-05 11:00:45 AM  

Jument: That's terrible! Send them to me and I will administer spankings.


And then, the oral sex
 
2012-12-05 11:03:56 AM  

liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist


The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society. What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up. There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.

So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism.

Saying that the Japanese aren't racist and that there isn't racism in Japan is HORSE SH*T, however. Americans are far too new to have invented racism in any form.
 
2012-12-05 11:05:43 AM  

minoridiot: serial_crusher: minoridiot: They are talking about only Mexicans, not Latinos or Hispanics.

I was going to say the same thing, but then I thought about the fact that if we interpreted "Mexican" to mean first-generation immigrants from Mexico to the US, that percentage would probably be even higher, especially if we included those here illegally (not sure if that survey did or not).

If the sorority intended the party to be themed after people actually living in Mexico, the stats would be irrelevant.

Generally speaking, first generation immigrants from Mexico tend to identify themselves as Mexican, not Hispanic. They reserve the Hispanic distinction for the folks who are more removed from their Mexican roots.

And Mexicans are not well liked throughout the rest of the Latin Americas. My wife once punched a guy in the thoat when he mistakenly called her Mexican.


Sounds like a mexicant
 
2012-12-05 11:07:37 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

Greeks are not considered a race. It's stereotypical, like Polish and Irish jokes.


You realise by your same logic we shouldn't be offended because Mexican isn't a race either?
 
2012-12-05 11:08:45 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-05 11:10:41 AM  
I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.
 
2012-12-05 11:11:11 AM  
Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun
 
2012-12-05 11:14:04 AM  
I'm multi-ethnic, so I offend myself constantly.
 
2012-12-05 11:22:06 AM  
"Mexi-chio night with lyrivi [heart emjoi] lol sombreros everywhere."

Pricipal . Caught sayof school that has stoped Handstandsing
 
2012-12-05 11:24:42 AM  
The more important question is when will the video from this party be on CollegeRules.com?
 
2012-12-05 11:27:04 AM  

quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.


Without a doubt, this is the funniest post to Fark in years. And you are in competition with masters of the craft such as spentmiles and Mike_LowELL.
 
2012-12-05 11:28:48 AM  

SlothB77: Rumors are flying another scandal is brewing out of Happy Valley that could be even worse than the Sandusky thing.


It's hard to imagine what could be worse than the Sandusky thing. Are they barbequeing newborns on an industrial scale?
 
2012-12-05 11:28:54 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun


She is the most famous Irexican on fark.
 
2012-12-05 11:30:31 AM  
As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).
 
2012-12-05 11:30:42 AM  
csb

In 1988 my fraternity had one of these. Just an excuse to drink Corona and invite the hotties to feed them margaritas.

There were 2 ponchos, one sombrero and a t-shirt with a jalapeno. Some idealist LULAC activist got ahold of the pics and threw a PC conniption (sp?). We had to be formally lectured about cultural sensitivity.

The one in the hat was Chilean. One of the ones in the ponchos was Mexican -- as in from Mexico City. Also in our house were 2 Koreans and a black guy. We were as diverse as the student body and more diverse than both the rest of the Greek system and the faculty.

/csb
 
2012-12-05 11:33:59 AM  

Banned on the Run: csb

In 1988 my fraternity had one of these. Just an excuse to drink Corona and invite the hotties to feed them margaritas.

There were 2 ponchos, one sombrero


That's disgusting.
 
2012-12-05 11:42:04 AM  
Looks like a lot of girls that i wouldn't mind seeing naked.

Someone get on that..chop chop!
 
2012-12-05 11:42:32 AM  

Banned on the Run: /csb


My school did the same shiat 3 years ago, saying we were racists and that we intentionally didn't let other ethnicities join. Meanwhile we had an African American, an actual African, and a pledge of Indian descent. That drove our percentage of diversity (11ish) past the school's 8 percent. Their percentage was driven up because they offered FREE RIDES to people from different countries and had a program which was basically a fraternity for them. So they never tried to socialize with us to begin with.
 
2012-12-05 11:45:41 AM  

Banned on the Run: The one in the hat was Chilean.


That's just a marketing gimmick. He was really Patagonian
 
2012-12-05 11:53:03 AM  

quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.


As a black guy, I retroactively approve of your party. Seriously though, when you put it like that it takes some of the edge off. For obvious reasons, people are sensitive about his kind of stuff but you hit the nail on the head when you speak about intent. I get that sometimes these things are done without malice, but it should also be understandable if we don't immediately give these people the benefit of doubt and assume that they meant no harm.
 
2012-12-05 11:54:09 AM  
So...I'm offended? Gotcha. Im married to a woman of Mexican descent, so i admit I'm pretty Good at mexican jokes. a lot of practice. But these women are all white, so they haven't met the quota. Also, itwas hard to know just how offended i should be from the article, because my initial reaction was to laugh. But I assume a Mexican might be offended, if they give a crap. So I feel as a white person, I too should be offended because I assume another might be offend. Am I doing this right?
 
2012-12-05 11:54:27 AM  

kingflower: As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).


Why is that? A student body of 94,000, 550,000 alumni and you've condemned them all to the "reject" pile sight unseen?
 
2012-12-05 11:57:34 AM  

thecpt: Mid_mo_mad_man: Csb. I showed the soon to be Mrs mid_mo_mad_man this article . For those who don't she's a bbw that's half Mexican (dad) and half Irish with a nasty temper. Also very culturally proud. You know what her response was to it? She laugh and said it was just harmless fun

She is the most famous Irexican on fark.


Irexican? That's funny
 
2012-12-05 11:58:40 AM  
I humbly offer my services for the disciplining of these terrible terrible college girls...yes, they must be disciplined, lots of long, hard, sweaty discipline. I know, I know, this is a difficult task, and unpleasant, no doubt, but I am willing to step forward and do what must be done. In as many different ways as possible. I might have to apply discipline to 2, maybe 3 of these women at a time. But do not fear, I can handle this.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:04 AM  

Sgt Otter: Yeah, the lack of creativity here is just lame. Nearly all of them went with sombrero, poncho, and mustache.


No khaki Dickies and a plaid shirt buttoned all the way to the top? Roll up on a lowrider bicycle and you're the coolest vato there.
 
2012-12-05 11:59:05 AM  

Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.


shewhoprecedesmen.files.wordpress.com

please provide me a citation to the government preventing expression in this case.

/didn't think so
 
2012-12-05 12:02:25 PM  

gopher321: Wonder what that asian girl on the left was thinking about all this


Her Euclidean and Non-Euclidean Geometries final?

Hey-OOOOO!
 
2012-12-05 12:03:22 PM  
liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist

The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society. What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up. There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.

So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism.

Saying that the Japanese aren't racist and that there isn't racism in Japan is HORSE SH*T, however. Americans are far too new to have invented racism in any form
.


You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?
 
2012-12-05 12:10:56 PM  

manimal2878: serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.

I don't think many mexican resteraunts celabrating cinco de mayo would find signs, about smoking weed and mowing lawns funny on that day either.


Actually the signs are the only real issue imo.
 
2012-12-05 12:17:27 PM  

telejester: You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?


Wipe your tears, Scarlett, and read Liam76's posts over the past few years like I have. We end up in the same thread a lot because of the Penn State connection, and I have to assume based on the content of those posts, his name, and that he has no info in his profile.
 
2012-12-05 12:19:44 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Actually the signs are the only real issue imo.


The "will mow grass for beer+weed" is far worse of a mean stereotype of the two; the other is sort of rejecting the stereotype of Mexicans as maintenance crewmen and instead reinforcing the stereotype of the pot-head college student.

The signs were a bad idea.
 
2012-12-05 12:24:14 PM  
Wow, the topic is Mexicans and pedophilia and no Jesus Quintana? Big fail...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-05 12:31:09 PM  
It's not a stereoype of Mexicans, just god-awful Mexican-themed colege parties.

/thankfully not promoted as "Beaner Bash 2012"
//I'l sit over there
 
2012-12-05 12:31:52 PM  
You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.

Unless now "feel-good" = kid farking and "liberalism" = mocking poor Mexicans by dressing up like them while you drink excessively at a party filled with rich white people.
 
2012-12-05 12:33:07 PM  

factoryconnection: liam76: i have been told only whites can be racist

The way I've deciphered it is that while people can be bigoted racially, or personally racist, only those in power can determine how racism manifests itself in society.


I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.


factoryconnection: What you and I do has no bearing on our culture, really, and most of the racial problems in this country come from centuries of legal and institutional racism by white leaders against blacks and natives, and later anyone else that showed up.


I disagree. At one point that was the case, but most of the racism today isn't because of what happeend 100, or even 50 years ago.


factoryconnection: There are still powerful echoes of Jim Crow laws and attitudes that I see (I live in South Carolina) regularly; I had no idea that such things were still in such effect until I moved from the North.


I agree there are echoes, but I don;t thinkt hat is the driving force today.

factoryconnection: So while it is possible that you and I could face discrimination in our lives (I'm assuming you're also a white male, with the name "Liam" and all) it is unlikely that our lives would be derailed by institutional or legal racism


If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.
 
2012-12-05 12:35:37 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: quietwalker: I remember getting a bunch of white, asian, and hispanic friends together to watch "I'm gonna git you sucka," and the then-just-released "Undercover Brother." Everyone was required to bring their own 40's and fried chicken, and I provided the dessert, watermelon. We had a great time, everyone had fun, even when we argued the relative merits of Olde English 800 vs Colt 45, and had to invoke the name of Billy Dee Williams several times in anger.

I don't believe that anyone left that get-together thinking that black people deserved discrimination, and I'm pretty sure no one used the experience to justify or strengthen racist or discriminatory beliefs. Everyone had fun with their friends and enjoyed low-quality blacksploitation cinema, and went back out into the world no worse than they had arrived.

/ invited a black guy, but he was traveling for business that weekend.

As a black guy, I retroactively approve of your party. Seriously though, when you put it like that it takes some of the edge off. For obvious reasons, people are sensitive about his kind of stuff but you hit the nail on the head when you speak about intent. I get that sometimes these things are done without malice, but it should also be understandable if we don't immediately give these people the benefit of doubt and assume that they meant no harm.


Neat! I was saving a trump card in the case of backlash: black friends in college awarded me the privilege of being an honorary black guy, but I guess I didn't need that much justification. I learned the secret handshakes and was even allowed to say the n-word. That's like a magic power for a white guy!

As an aside, in college, we used to have lots of themed parties - just like liquor in general, it made it acceptable to act stupid. Mexican parties, Star Wars parties, even gilligan's island parties. All just in fun.
 
2012-12-05 12:35:48 PM  

factoryconnection: telejester: You're not stereotyping are you, Mr. Carpetbagger?

Wipe your tears, Scarlett, and read Liam76's posts over the past few years like I have. We end up in the same thread a lot because of the Penn State connection, and I have to assume based on the content of those posts, his name, and that he has no info in his profile.


check again.
 
2012-12-05 12:50:11 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.


These are probably all business students, thus not real liberal college students like the rest.
 
2012-12-05 12:52:06 PM  

liam76: check again.


I did miss that. If it isn't a captioned picture of a cat my mind does wander quickly.

liam76: I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.


I don't agree with that conclusion either. It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

liam76: If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.


But not institutional racism. The argument is a semantic one, but a significant difference.

liam76: I disagree. At one point that was the case, but most of the racism today isn't because of what happeend 100, or even 50 years ago.


The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with.
 
2012-12-05 12:58:01 PM  

kingflower: As someone who interviews and hires people, I have gotten in the habit of just throwing Penn Stat grad resumes in the garbage (unread).


It's a good thing you do that. The current Penn State graduates were in 2nd grade during the first Sandusky 1998 incident. What's worse is that they were all in on it, too. Graham Spanier and Joe Paterno went around to second grade classrooms giving chocolate milk and stickers to all the kids (future PSU students) if they promised to keep quiet and not tell anyone about Sandusky.
 
2012-12-05 01:00:52 PM  

factoryconnection: The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with.


I always think that comes down to class war and not race war. It's just classes are scewed in America due to prior racism. Also those who grow up in ignorance of what is socially acceptable. When I first got to college one kid in my dorm blurted out that he was an "n-word (used actual word) loving jew." Awkward hilarity ensued as he was confronted by the two black kids who lived beside him.
 
2012-12-05 01:02:57 PM  
Almost as good as KA "Old South" parties

websites.omegafi.com
 
2012-12-05 01:03:55 PM  
not sure if i know exactly what a sorority party looks like....any help?
 
2012-12-05 01:07:14 PM  

factoryconnection: liam76: check again.

I did miss that. If it isn't a captioned picture of a cat my mind does wander quickly


I put it in as a joke.

i think I am now going to leave it just to see what it does to responses after peopel look at my profiel.

factoryconnection: liam76: I was told (just like what was in the link) that as individuals only whites can be racist.

I don't agree with that conclusion either. It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.


I agree.


factoryconnection: liam76: If it is discrimination based onrace, it is racism.

But not institutional racism. The argument is a semantic one, but a significant difference.


I don't think institutional racism is strictly pro-white. I woudl call an AA system that gives preference to minorities is insitutional racism against whites.


factoryconnection: The generational poverty, under-funding of minority-strong schools, over-representation of blacks in the prison system are some of many facts about our society that tell a very different tale. It boils down to the difference between individuals' feelings (which have changed massively) and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow which we are really still stuck with


I don't know if you can put all of those things at the foot of slavery or jim crow laws.
 
2012-12-05 01:10:42 PM  

BronyMedic: Snarfangel: He just told you. Giles Goat Boy. Sheesh.

Don't push your furry porn fanfiction on us, Mister.


That stuff makes me Barth.
 
2012-12-05 01:21:20 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: You know, I am getting the impression that despite what Republicans say, colleges are not bastions of feel-good, elitist liberalism.

Unless now "feel-good" = kid farking and "liberalism" = mocking poor Mexicans by dressing up like them while you drink excessively at a party filled with rich white people.


I don't think anybody has ever accused the "Greek" culture of being bleeding heart liberals. They're all entitled rich kids, freeloading off their parents, doing enough pretend education that their daddy's company will feel ok hiring them once their four years of drinking are up.

The liberals are all in the faculty and administration, redistributing those sorostitutes' wealth under the guise of textbook sales.

/ But even when I was in college, most of the students didn't mind a theme party. My guess here is that this is a combination of white people thinking it's appropriate to get offended on other peoples' behalves, combined with good old fashioned jealousy about not being invited.
 
2012-12-05 01:25:58 PM  

thecpt: I always think that comes down to class war and not race war.


Class, or more specifically socio-economic status are very important factors, indeed. But look at the conviction and incarceration rates for things like drug crimes; keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.
 
2012-12-05 01:26:17 PM  

serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.


Greeks are ethnically White, so it is OK. Any kind of racial slur against caucs (pronounced "cocks") is OK, because they are evil.

/Once got in trouble when I used the old "no speeek Eenglesh" routine on a raging Hispanic asshat driver I simply didn't want to argue with over a parking spot (I'd seen it first). He actually called the cops and said I was being a racist.
 
2012-12-05 01:34:05 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i think it would have been fine but for the signs.

/ imagine dressing up like a leprechaun for st patrick's day, but carrying a sign that says i blow up protestants... :(
// or, just carrying bombs. not very nice. 
/// also, pretty sure that white kids smoke a lot more pot than mexicans, and are probably less likely have any respect for the fine art of proper lawn maintenance and proper landscaping.


Or imagine the same day, but with drinking... because, you know, the Irish like to drink... that's be a little bit racist right? Kinda like saying Mexicans like to smoke weed...

It's a good thing no one does anything that racist on St. Patrick's day.
 
2012-12-05 01:38:36 PM  

factoryconnection: keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.


Do you have a good link for that? Google is throwing me weird stuff and I don't know what's reputable. Maybe its simplification through numbers, maybe there are other factors. The only time crossing the border to Canada was a hassle was when we brought our black friend. Who was adopted by ridiculously rich white people.
 
2012-12-05 01:39:11 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: serial_crusher: So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

It might get in to racist stereotyping territory if they start saying Greeks are poor, drunks and drug addicts. Like what happened here.


What if they said Greeks are poor, lazy, tax cheats? Is truth no longer a defense?
 
2012-12-05 01:42:58 PM  

merzbow: Wow, the topic is Mexicans and pedophilia and no Jesus Quintana? Big fail...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x638]



Jesus Quintana is Cuban, mang.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:31 PM  

Zumaki: Stereotypes and cliches are based upon reality. This party was harmless.


It is not reality for the many millions of Mexicans who doesn`t mown your lawn for beer and weed. Stereotypes are for dumb people like you in order to try to make sense of the world. It is much easier to think of everyone being the same than to consider how not everyone fits into your preconceived notions.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:37 PM  

DickDarlington: .... sorority girls dressed as Mexicans complete with mustaches. There has to be a porn movie somewhere waiting for me to rent.

//got the weirdest boner right now....


Perhaps they could use this as a model? NSFW - Not even remotely
 
2012-12-05 01:46:41 PM  
If this is "racist", I am soooo suing South of the Border!
 
2012-12-05 01:49:09 PM  

ManateeGag: sorority girls putting the ass in class I see.


what else do you expect from vapid, white suburban princesses?
 
2012-12-05 01:49:55 PM  

liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist


Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.
 
2012-12-05 01:53:00 PM  

liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.



Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.
 
2012-12-05 01:55:08 PM  

factoryconnection: thecpt: I always think that comes down to class war and not race war.

Class, or more specifically socio-economic status are very important factors, indeed. But look at the conviction and incarceration rates for things like drug crimes; keeping all other things equal (location, SES, same charges, same crime) the conviction and incarceration rate for blacks are much higher and the sentences longer.


That's because the best way to fight a class war is to sell it as a race war. Divide and Conquer.
 
2012-12-05 01:58:51 PM  

liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist


Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.


Right. It is okay to be culturally insensitive because there are other peoples that are more culturally insensitive. The ultimate fall back for people who have nothing more to say to defend their dick behaviour.
 
2012-12-05 02:04:25 PM  
What's wrong with this? It's just a Mexican themed little party! Are we going to sue kids next whenever they have those "Children of the World" programs at school where they get to dress up as people of different countries while they sing We Are The World?
 
2012-12-05 02:11:34 PM  
This is inexcusable, and every one of those sorority girls should be thoroughly spanked for such behavior. And I volunteer to carry out the punishment.
 
2012-12-05 02:11:38 PM  

BrynnMacFlynn:
The campus literally flipped its shiat. I mean literally.


Wouldn't they have had to defecated on some flat surface and then use a spatula or shovel to then lightly toss the excrement in the air and expose the previously face down surface to the air?

Yeah, yeah...see you in 18 years.

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-05 02:20:03 PM  

Groink: Wouldn't they have had to defecated on some flat surface and then use a spatula or shovel to then lightly toss the excrement in the air and expose the previously face down surface to the air?


I would have taken a picture. They lined up on the paths, with their shining, shiat covered spatulas. It was a thing of beautiful derpitude.
 
2012-12-05 02:21:54 PM  

oldfarthenry: Anyone else dreading what they're going to do on Martin Luther King day?


A white woman.
 
2012-12-05 02:22:23 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.


Using that logic Obama isn't black.
 
2012-12-05 02:25:48 PM  

factoryconnection: I believe the PHC is a form of voluntary segregation


Prairie Home Companion?

Pacific Highway, Coastal?

Wha...HUH?!?!


But yes, the historically Black college and Black sorority and fraternity thing, the voluntary segregation does puzzle me greatly. And would I be accepted in them as a tight-ass white boy?
 
2012-12-05 02:29:22 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: factoryconnection: I believe the PHC is a form of voluntary segregation

Prairie Home Companion?

Pacific Highway, Coastal?


Phallic Heft Consensus?
 
2012-12-05 02:35:48 PM  

Fallout Boy: Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning


Since some people have moronic ideas on racism (only white people can be racist) that means I am drunk?
 
2012-12-05 02:46:13 PM  
DickDarlington: .... sorority girls dressed as Mexicans complete with mustaches. There has to be a porn movie somewhere waiting for me to rent.

//got the weirdest boner right now....

Perhaps they could use this as a model? NSFW - Not even remotely


Thanks, I was too lazy to look it up myself.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:20 PM  

liam76: Fallout Boy: Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morning

Since some people have moronic ideas on racism (only white people can be racist) that means I am drunk?


drunk or racist, one of those.
If you're white, you're racist.
If you're non-white, you must be drunk in order to actually admit that in a public forum.
 
2012-12-05 02:53:39 PM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.


What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.
 
2012-12-05 03:01:38 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.


Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans", but the black half of Obama's ancestry never lived in the US during times they were enslaved, so that disqualifies him?
Technically you just said that's why "black pride" is a thing, so really the only conclusion we could draw is that Obama isn't allowed to have or show black pride; not that he's not actually black.
 
2012-12-05 03:01:50 PM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.


Thinking about this more, I think you missed the point. Say there is a white irish guy. He is irish, he knows his irish culture, he would celebrate being irish, not being white. Say there is a black guy, he doesn't know if he is zulu or swahili or whatever, all he has as an identifier is that he black, thus the black pride movement was about trying to connect blacks, that forcibly had their true culture removed from them, to a common culture. Black Pride is a place holder for lost cultural connection, white americans came here by choice, there is no need for them to have white pride as cultural place holder.

I'm guessing you are trying to make some connection to Obama being Kenyen. That's irrelevant. Obama still has black skin, and the larger populace of Black America was disconnected for their cultural heritage. The two things have nothing to do with each other.
 
2012-12-05 03:02:10 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.


If I follow you correctly there is no such thing as "white".

Which means there is no such thing as "black", except that due to black american not knowing where they come from and the shared experience/history of african slaves in the US.

Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?
 
2012-12-05 03:03:04 PM  

serial_crusher: Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans"


No, I said slavery is the one thing that defines black pride. Black Americans are identified by being black.
 
2012-12-05 03:08:54 PM  

manimal2878: serial_crusher: Because you've identified slavery as the thing that defines "black Americans"

No, I said slavery is the one thing that defines black pride. Black Americans are identified by being black.


Be sure to bring that up in black history month.


manimal2878: Thinking about this more, I think you missed the point. Say there is a white irish guy. He is irish, he knows his irish culture, he would celebrate being irish, not being white. Say there is a black guy, he doesn't know if he is zulu or swahili or whatever, all he has as an identifier is that he black, thus the black pride movement was about trying to connect blacks, that forcibly had their true culture removed from them, to a common culture. Black Pride is a place holder for lost cultural connection, white americans came here by choice, there is no need for them to have white pride as cultural place holder.

I'm guessing you are trying to make some connection to Obama being Kenyen. That's irrelevant. Obama still has black skin, and the larger populace of Black America was disconnected for their cultural heritage. The two things have nothing to do with each other


If Obama's black skin can identify him as black how does white skin not identify one as white?

Also, if "black pride" is only for people who had culture ripped away, and no choice to come here, then you are saying Obama can have no black pride.

There are plenty of white peopel who don';t have a good idea where their family came from, and even if they do don't have a real cultural connection.
 
2012-12-05 03:09:45 PM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

What? Why isn't he black? I don't see how anything I have said, can logically lead one to say he isn't black.

If I follow you correctly there is no such thing as "white". There such a thing as white skin, I would have phrased it better as, there is no good reason for white pride.

Which means there is no such thing as "black", except that due to black american not knowing where they come from and the shared experience/history of african slaves in the US. There is black skin. There is a good reason for black pride as I explained above.

Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?

Like I said, Obama has black skin, therefore he is black.
 
2012-12-05 03:13:14 PM  

manimal2878: There such a thing as white skin, I would have phrased it better as, there is no good reason for white pride.

There is black skin. There is a good reason for black pride as I explained above.

Like I said, Obama has black skin, therefore he is black.


I can understand that. I don;t agree with that, but at least it is consistent.

But I don;t think you have thought this out.

You are still saying the only reason for black pride is slavery. Nothing else black people have accomplished in the Us is deserving of pride?

And it still implies that Obama can't hionestly share in black pride, as he has cultural connection, wasn't "forced" to the US, etc.
 
2012-12-05 03:14:03 PM  

JohnCarter: Almost as good as KA "Old South" parties


I went to a few parties at the KA house at UF. While I never went one of those kind of parties, they did have portraits of all the brothers in confederate garb hanging on the walls of the house. This was almost 20 years ago so I dont know if those are still there.
 
2012-12-05 03:18:28 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [media.comicvine.com image 323x338]


Pedrobear!
 
2012-12-05 03:18:44 PM  

Fallout Boy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. You`re already drunk at 11 in the morningJust Another OC Homeless Guy: liam76: Englebert Slaptyback: BronyMedic

Goddamn, dude. Did you miss the turn-off to Stormfront, or are you just on the way to Free Republic.


You appear to be completely unfamiliar with academia and/or you need to check the batteries in your sarcasmonometer.

This.

i have been told only whites can be racist, and when I asked about Japanese attitudes towards non-Japenes there I was informed that racism was stillbecause of white peopel because race is a white social construct, and any similiar bad treatment of "different" peopel in other cultures/times wasn't racism.

/wish I could remeber who on Fark was saying that
only whites can be racist

Wow. Just wow. Most racist culture I've ever run into was Korean.

Right. It is okay to be culturally insensitive because there are other peoples that are more culturally insensitive. The ultimate fall back for people who have nothing more to say to defend their dick behaviour.


Not what I said. Putting words into other people's mouths is no way to go thru life, son. Makes you look stupid and silly.
 
2012-12-05 03:24:05 PM  

liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.


Why would it be a problem?

liam76: f Obama's black skin can identify him as black how does white skin not identify one as white?

Also, if "black pride" is only for people who had culture ripped away, and no choice to come here, then you are saying Obama can have no black pride.

There are plenty of white peopel who don';t have a good idea where their family came from, and even if they do don't have a real cultural connection.



You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments. If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background.

I'm trying to explain why White Pride and Black Pride are not really the same thing. I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american. But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background. White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin.
 
2012-12-05 03:24:14 PM  
tnation.t-nation.com
 
2012-12-05 03:27:25 PM  

liam76: You are still saying the only reason for black pride is slavery. Nothing else black people have accomplished in the Us is deserving of pride?


No, not at all. I'm saying because of slavery most black people would be unable to trace their history back before slavery. All they have as their history is their history as black Americans. White people, most of them, should be able to trace their history back to some other culture. Therefore there is no need for them to limit themselves to skin color as a historical cultural identifier.
 
2012-12-05 03:29:41 PM  

liam76: Obama doesn't have that shared "experience/history" so how is he black?


Fascinatin' question, and I was just formulatin' a similar question and trying not to sound like an ignoramus.

Seems to me, being a mite younger than President Obama (my brother was born the exact same day: 8/4/1961), and I remembered the Black Power movement. I remember the MOVES in Philadelphia and the Black Panther stuff in Oakland, CA. Surely President Obama was conscious of these movements in his childhood and without question he experienced youth as as a Black kid/teen, same as any Black kid born to black parents, descendants of slaves as far back as the trade went.

While he may not have had grandparents or great-grandparents to tell him stories of Jim Crow laws, sharecropping on the old plantation, etc., he's been subject to the same stuff the other kids have.
 
2012-12-05 03:38:42 PM  
www.clarkprosecutor.org
Will be happy to punish Chi Omega again.
 
2012-12-05 03:42:07 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.

Why would it be a problem?


Really?

You don't see how "

slavery is the one thing that defines black pride" is offensive?

manimal2878: You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments.


You can say the exact same thing about black pride.

manimal2878: If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background


I don't see how you can draw a line saying that "irish" isn't too broad, "black" isn't too broad, but "white" is.

manimal2878: I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american.


If it is based on your "view" then you can have anytyp of group pride.

manimal2878: But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background.


I am nto sure what your background is, but there are many "white" american who have no real connection to the coutnries they left generations ago, and many who probably don't have a clear grip on where exactly they are from.

manimal2878: White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin


White american doesn't tell you anymore than black american.

If you are able to lump Obama into "black" despite him not having that histroy that you says unites them then you are admitting it tells nothing of a person's history.

manimal2878: I'm trying to explain why White Pride and Black Pride are not really the same thing.


They are. I freely admit that people who go on and on about white pride are more likely to be racist, but I really can't buy any of the arguments about black pride having more "legitimacy".
 
2012-12-05 03:51:23 PM  
I know that I'm partially culpable here, but let it be put on the record that today we Farkers took a thread about sorority girls and made it into a fairly dry discussion of racial relations in this country instead of even a hint of making it into a picture thread of "sorority girls" in their collegiate-print undies.

I guess we collectively had to grow up sooner or later.
 
2012-12-05 04:01:50 PM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.

Why would it be a problem?

Really?

You don't see how "slavery is the one thing that defines black pride" is offensive?

manimal2878: You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments.

You can say the exact same thing about black pride.

manimal2878: If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background

I don't see how you can draw a line saying that "irish" isn't too broad, "black" isn't too broad, but "white" is.

manimal2878: I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american.

If it is based on your "view" then you can have anytyp of group pride.

manimal2878: But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background.

I am nto sure what your background is, but there are many "white" american who have no real connection to the coutnries they left generations ago, and many who probably don't have a clear grip on where exactly they are from.

manimal2878: White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin

White american doesn't tell you anymore than black american.

If you are able to lump Obama into "black" despite him not having that histroy that you says unites them then you are admitting it tells nothing of a person's history.

manimal2878: I'm trying to explain why White Prid ...


The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent.
 
2012-12-05 04:09:31 PM  

manimal2878: The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent


Actually that answers none of my questions.

The only thing it changes it that white people are more likely to have a direct cultural connection to a specific group.

That is it. It doesn't explain why you think people of a certain skin color get a pass for connecting by race despite not having a shared past expereince or culture.

In both cases your skin color has nothing to do with your accomplishments. In both cases you didn't choose it. Having pride in one is no more silly than pride in the other.

It is silly to say "white" is too broad to have pride in, but "black" and "Irish" are ok doesn't make sense.
 
2012-12-05 04:16:25 PM  

liam76: manimal2878: The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent

Actually that answers none of my questions.

The only thing it changes it that white people are more likely to have a direct cultural connection to a specific group.

That is it. It doesn't explain why you think people of a certain skin color get a pass for connecting by race despite not having a shared past expereince or culture.

In both cases your skin color has nothing to do with your accomplishments. In both cases you didn't choose it. Having pride in one is no more silly than pride in the other.

It is silly to say "white" is too broad to have pride in, but "black" and "Irish" are ok doesn't make sense.


It's connecting by the fact they don't have a any other connection to the past. As I said above it is a place holder for what they don't have. What would you call it, instead of black pride? "Former slave pride" might be more accurate, but it doesn't really roll off the tongue.

The ceason that Irish is not too broad, is because there is such a thing as Ireland, there is a place where Irish peoeple come from, with a shared history, etc, blah, blah, blah. There is no such place as Whitey, where all white people come from.
 
2012-12-05 04:30:49 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.

[shewhoprecedesmen.files.wordpress.com image 500x277]

please provide me a citation to the government preventing expression in this case.

/didn't think so


Does this college receive any tax funds to support it? (pretty sure it does.) Are the students going to face any form of discipline for throwing the party? (looks like probably yes.) Was their offense solely in the way they expressed themselves? It appears so.

If it were any other government agency, everyone would agree that the government was suppressing their freedom of speech. But since so many idiots think schools should have incredible leeway in how they are allowed to enforce social codes, few have a problem. This is how we end up with idiotic, fascist far-left feel-good bullshiat policies dominating college campuses.

Go be a functionally illiterate idiot somewhere else.
 
2012-12-05 04:31:26 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent

Actually that answers none of my questions.

The only thing it changes it that white people are more likely to have a direct cultural connection to a specific group.

That is it. It doesn't explain why you think people of a certain skin color get a pass for connecting by race despite not having a shared past expereince or culture.

In both cases your skin color has nothing to do with your accomplishments. In both cases you didn't choose it. Having pride in one is no more silly than pride in the other.

It is silly to say "white" is too broad to have pride in, but "black" and "Irish" are ok doesn't make sense.

It's connecting by the fact they don't have a any other connection to the past. As I said above it is a place holder for what they don't have. What would you call it, instead of black pride? "Former slave pride" might be more accurate, but it doesn't really roll off the tongue.

The ceason that Irish is not too broad, is because there is such a thing as Ireland, there is a place where Irish peoeple come from, with a shared history, etc, blah, blah, blah. There is no such place as Whitey, where all white people come from.


So you can keep pretending that all white people have that connection?

You're going to keep pretending that people like Obama don't have that connection?

You are going to draw the line at white since 'whitey' isn't a place but pretend that doesn't matter for black?

You are going to pretend shared history in the us is enough or isn't depending on skin color?
 
2012-12-05 04:36:13 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.

Greeks are ethnically White, so it is OK. Any kind of racial slur against caucs (pronounced "cocks") is OK, because they are evil.

/Once got in trouble when I used the old "no speeek Eenglesh" routine on a raging Hispanic asshat driver I simply didn't want to argue with over a parking spot (I'd seen it first). He actually called the cops and said I was being a racist.


That made me laugh my ass off. I don't care if it was wrong.

/hey where'd my ass go?
 
2012-12-05 04:47:10 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: liam76: It is difficult, however, for a white person to express "white pride" in an inoffensive way the same way a black person would express "black pride." But I don't see how someone could claim that as individuals we hold a monopoly on racist feelings.

I agree.


Could that be because there is no such thing as "White?" You are either British, or Irish, or Scottish, or whatever. Thus it is perfectly acceptable, for example, to have irish pride. No one batts an eye at this. White pride on the other hand is a sure sign of being a racist.

The reason there is such a thing as just Black Pride, is because of slavery, Black Americans don't actually know their ancestry in many cases.

Using that logic Obama isn't black.

Thinking about this more, I think you missed the point. Say there is a white irish guy. He is irish, he knows his irish culture, he would celebrate being irish, not being white. Say there is a black guy, he doesn't know if he is zulu or swahili or whatever, all he has as an identifier is that he black, thus the black pride movement was about trying to connect blacks, that forcibly had their true culture removed from them, to a common culture. Black Pride is a place holder for lost cultural connection, white americans came here by choice, there is no need for them to have white pride as cultural place holder.

I'm guessing you are trying to make some connection to Obama being Kenyen. That's irrelevant. Obama still has black skin, and the larger populace of Black America was disconnected for their cultural heritage. The two things have nothing to do with each other.


But I'm a highly mixed-nationality white, descended from poor people who had to leave england, ireland, scotland and denmark to have a chance of not starving. I'm also 1/4 native american. All of my ancestors were oppressed in their homelands, sometimes by my other ancestors.

So, how much "pride" am I allowed to have in my heritage? And which pope of idiot PC liberalism do I have to prostrate myself before in order to receive my badge of humanity?
 
2012-12-05 04:52:54 PM  

factoryconnection: I know that I'm partially culpable here, but let it be put on the record that today we Farkers took a thread about sorority girls and made it into a fairly dry discussion of racial relations in this country instead of even a hint of making it into a picture thread of "sorority girls" in their collegiate-print undies.

I guess we collectively had to grow up sooner or later.


That's just sad.
 
2012-12-05 05:15:01 PM  
The reason you don't celebrate white pride is because no one likes a sore winner.
 
2012-12-05 05:18:20 PM  

manimal2878: liam76: Be sure to bring that up in black history month.

Why would it be a problem?

liam76: f Obama's black skin can identify him as black how does white skin not identify one as white?

Also, if "black pride" is only for people who had culture ripped away, and no choice to come here, then you are saying Obama can have no black pride.

There are plenty of white peopel who don';t have a good idea where their family came from, and even if they do don't have a real cultural connection.


You can be a white guy. You can even identify as a white guy, but why would you have pride in that? Who gives a fark, yay, your skin is white. Who cares. Your skin color had nothing to do with your accomplishments. If you're irish or whatever you could say, your irish values and upbringing, lead to whatever inventions and etc. You could reasonably have pride in that since there is a history and cultural background.

I'm trying to explain why White Pride and Black Pride are not really the same thing. I don't know how Obama views himself, I imagine because of his skin he sees himself as black, I imagine he probably sees the historical implications of being black in america and identifies with other blacks because of where he was raised and when, he would probably describe himself as having pride in being a black american. But It would make more sense for a white person to say irish american if they wanted to display having pride in their background. White american on the other hand tells nothing of the history of a person, all it tells is the color of their skin.


having "pride" period sucks. it makes u a total loser. that's why it's a 7 deadly sin
 
2012-12-05 05:18:56 PM  

Valiente: That stuff makes me Barth.


gullscomic.com

Duuuuh...you rang?
 
2012-12-05 05:46:43 PM  

Canned Tamales: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.

Greeks are ethnically White, so it is OK. Any kind of racial slur against caucs (pronounced "cocks") is OK, because they are evil.

/Once got in trouble when I used the old "no speeek Eenglesh" routine on a raging Hispanic asshat driver I simply didn't want to argue with over a parking spot (I'd seen it first). He actually called the cops and said I was being a racist.

That made me laugh my ass off. I don't care if it was wrong.

/hey where'd my ass go?


The cops thought it was funny, too. I was driving my beat up old truck with the camper shell, and he was in a new Beemer. And, like many (most) beemer drivers was a total douchbag. He tried the "do you know who I am?" thing on the cops. They told him to find another parking spot, and left.
 
2012-12-05 05:48:41 PM  
since when did a bunch of sorority girls' world view matter one bit?
 
2012-12-05 05:54:00 PM  

SIX goddamm pages and all you farks want to do is prattle on about your opinion of race relations.


WHAR THE FARK IS MY SORORITY GIRL THREAD!?!?!??!

 
2012-12-05 06:15:31 PM  

23FPB23: SIX goddamm pages and all you farks want to do is prattle on about your opinion of race relations.


I think race relations can be kind of hot. Take for example a pretty Asian girl... Woohoo!
 
2012-12-05 06:34:47 PM  
All I'm sayin' is ... I would party at that party with those girls.
 
2012-12-05 06:45:59 PM  
perhaps they could use a good "investigating"

perhaps a bit more ..

if i may be so bold
 
2012-12-05 06:49:20 PM  
I don't think I ever voted 2 comments in a row funny until just now....
 
2012-12-05 10:06:30 PM  

Generation_D: Since I grew up in a college town, these never seem to leave my brain completely:

Whats the first thing a sorority girl does in the morning? A: walkshome. Alt: Puts her panties in her purse, then walks home.

Whats the difference between a toilet seat and a sorority girl? The toilet seat doesn't want to be taken to dinner after you use it.

.... and a few dozen more...


My school had a horrid idea to promote...something, I was never very clear what. They made a small brick wall and encouraged people to write down all the offensive, horrible words that people had used to hurt them. After a few days, they tore down the wall -- literally -- and thus tore down hate, or something. My friends and I watched one girl approach the wall and write "sororstitute" on it. My buddy crowed, "Holy shiat, I HAVE to use that one!"

Further CSB -- a local politician had been facing criticism for being an atheist (it's the South, ya'll). She showed up and tried to write the word "atheist" on the wall. She was already being mocked by a large portion of the student body for allowing it to be a derogatory term. She did not help her case by misspelling the offending word.
 
2012-12-05 11:51:45 PM  

itsfullofstars: since when did a bunch of sorority girls' world view matter one bit?


Yeah... Who gives a flying f*ck about this?
 
2012-12-05 11:51:45 PM  

Canned Tamales: Giant Clown Shoe: Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.

[shewhoprecedesmen.files.wordpress.com image 500x277]

please provide me a citation to the government preventing expression in this case.

/didn't think so

Does this college receive any tax funds to support it? (pretty sure it does.) Are the students going to face any form of discipline for throwing the party? (looks like probably yes.) Was their offense solely in the way they expressed themselves? It appears so.

If it were any other government agency, everyone would agree that the government was suppressing their freedom of speech. But since so many idiots think schools should have incredible leeway in how they are allowed to enforce social codes, few have a problem. This is how we end up with idiotic, fascist far-left feel-good bullshiat policies dominating college campuses.

Go be a functionally illiterate idiot somewhere else.


There are so many ways to go here...

You consider that party to be political speech?

Do you understand the difference between freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

Do you know the explicit "harm" and offense" principles?

And rather than tell you to go be uninformed somewhere else I'm going to encourage you to stay right here and fumble around. I'm going to enjoy it.
 
2012-12-06 03:40:56 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Canned Tamales: Giant Clown Shoe: Thunderpipes: I remember when I had freedom of speech.

[shewhoprecedesmen.files.wordpress.com image 500x277]

please provide me a citation to the government preventing expression in this case.

/didn't think so

Does this college receive any tax funds to support it? (pretty sure it does.) Are the students going to face any form of discipline for throwing the party? (looks like probably yes.) Was their offense solely in the way they expressed themselves? It appears so.

If it were any other government agency, everyone would agree that the government was suppressing their freedom of speech. But since so many idiots think schools should have incredible leeway in how they are allowed to enforce social codes, few have a problem. This is how we end up with idiotic, fascist far-left feel-good bullshiat policies dominating college campuses.

Go be a functionally illiterate idiot somewhere else.

There are so many ways to go here...

You consider that party to be political speech?

Do you understand the difference between freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

Do you know the explicit "harm" and offense" principles?

And rather than tell you to go be uninformed somewhere else I'm going to encourage you to stay right here and fumble around. I'm going to enjoy it.


I think by the time you hit "fascist far-left" you know it's a lost cause.
 
2012-12-06 08:26:07 AM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878: The answer to almost everyone of your questions is this: The history of white and black Americans are not the same. Therefore the significance of identifying as white or black, or having white or black pride are not equivalent

Actually that answers none of my questions.

The only thing it changes it that white people are more likely to have a direct cultural connection to a specific group.

That is it. It doesn't explain why you think people of a certain skin color get a pass for connecting by race despite not having a shared past expereince or culture.

In both cases your skin color has nothing to do with your accomplishments. In both cases you didn't choose it. Having pride in one is no more silly than pride in the other.

It is silly to say "white" is too broad to have pride in, but "black" and "Irish" are ok doesn't make sense.

It's connecting by the fact they don't have a any other connection to the past. As I said above it is a place holder for what they don't have. What would you call it, instead of black pride? "Former slave pride" might be more accurate, but it doesn't really roll off the tongue.

The ceason that Irish is not too broad, is because there is such a thing as Ireland, there is a place where Irish peoeple come from, with a shared history, etc, blah, blah, blah. There is no such place as Whitey, where all white people come from.

So you can keep pretending that all white people have that connection?

You're going to keep pretending that people like Obama don't have that connection?

You are going to draw the line at white since 'whitey' isn't a place but pretend that doesn't matter for black?

You are going to pretend shared history in the us is enough or isn't depending on skin color?


I'm not pretending anything. You already admitted that anybody celabrating white pride is probably racist, why is that? I'm just recognizing a fact, it's not the same.
 
2012-12-06 08:30:32 AM  

Canned Tamales: And which pope of idiot PC liberalism do I have to prostrate myself before in order to receive my badge of humanity?



Did you know that tinfoil hats actually act as antenna for mind control waves? The irony is that the government knew the paranoid would try to protect themselves so they tricked them into thinking tinfoil hats protected them, but it actually makes them easier to control.

/When you talk about pope's of PC liberalism this is how stupid you sound.
 
2012-12-06 08:34:23 AM  

manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878:The ceason that Irish is not too broad, is because there is such a thing as Ireland, there is a place where Irish peoeple come from, with a shared history, etc, blah, blah, blah. There is no such place as Whitey, where all white people come from.

So you can keep pretending that all white people have that connection?

You're going to keep pretending that people like Obama don't have that connection?

You are going to draw the line at white since 'whitey' isn't a place but pretend that doesn't matter for black?

You are going to pretend shared history in the us is enough or isn't depending on skin color?

I'm not pretending anything. You already admitted that anybody celabrating white pride is probably racist, why is that?


You are pretending all of those things.

I didn't say "probably" racist I said more likely to be racist.

Why? For two reaosn. First, you have a point that black people are less likely to have specific connection ot a african culture, however you are wrong in thinking none of them do and all white people do. Second, a lot of times "white pride" is in rerponse to something. If you are just celebrating it because the other group has soemthing similiar that probably isn't coming from a "good" place.

manimal2878: I'm just recognizing a fact, it's not the same.


What fact makes any of those statements not something you made up or arbitrary lines?
 
2012-12-06 09:38:58 AM  

liam76: manimal2878: liam76: manimal2878:The ceason that Irish is not too broad, is because there is such a thing as Ireland, there is a place where Irish peoeple come from, with a shared history, etc, blah, blah, blah. There is no such place as Whitey, where all white people come from.

So you can keep pretending that all white people have that connection?

You're going to keep pretending that people like Obama don't have that connection?

You are going to draw the line at white since 'whitey' isn't a place but pretend that doesn't matter for black?

You are going to pretend shared history in the us is enough or isn't depending on skin color?

I'm not pretending anything. You already admitted that anybody celabrating white pride is probably racist, why is that?

You are pretending all of those things.

I didn't say "probably" racist I said more likely to be racist. Probably and more likely are basically the same thing.

Why? For two reaosn. First, you have a point that black people are less likely to have specific connection ot a african culture, however you are wrong in thinking none of them do and all white people do. Second, a lot of times "white pride" is in rerponse to something. If you are just celebrating it because the other group has soemthing similiar that probably isn't coming from a "good" place. Here it sounds like we agree, You seem to keep thinking I'm making absolute statements about every single black or white person, I'm talking in general, yes there are exceptions.

manimal2878: I'm just recognizing a fact, it's not the same.

What fact makes any of those statements not something you made up or arbitrary lines?

It may be arbitrary, that doesn't make it not a fact. The drinking age of 21 is an arbitrary age, there are facts and reasons that support it in general, but any given 21 year may be more or less mature and have different abilities to handle drinking. The law is arbitrary, and the law is a fact.
 
2012-12-06 09:48:04 AM  

manimal2878: Probably and more likely are basically the same thing.



If I said people who like rap are more likely to do drugs than people who listen to gospel music, do you htink it is fair to characterize my statement as "people who listen to rap probably do drugs"

Here it sounds like we agree, You seem to keep thinking I'm making absolute statements about every single black or white person, I'm talking in general, yes there are exceptions.

You made a lot of absolute statements. Maybe that isn't what you meant to do, but that is what you did.

It may be arbitrary, that doesn't make it not a fact. The drinking age of 21 is an arbitrary age, there are facts and reasons that support it in general, but any given 21 year may be more or less mature and have different abilities to handle drinking. The law is arbitrary, and the law is a fact

The difference between what you are doing and what the law is doing is that it doesn't change based on skin color.

It is fine to say skin color is too broad. It is fine to say it isn't too broad. It isn't fine to say it is ok for one skin color and not another.
 
2012-12-06 08:54:11 PM  

The Muthaship: Snarfangel: Like what, wear green and drink heavily? That's ridiculous.

As long as they don't imitate the Germans.....


They only do that in October.
 
2012-12-06 09:23:28 PM  
Hmmm...

Mustaches? Pass

Ponchos? Pass

Swigns? The "I cut grass for X" needs to go. The other? Pass.

Now, after I return from the office, wash them, and send them to my chamber.
 
2012-12-07 09:28:18 PM  

manimal2878: serial_crusher: OregonVet: What, you're only allowed to have a Mexican themed party one day a year now?

I actually came in here to criticize them for that. Cinco de Mayo only!

So, sororities are allowed to call themselves "Greek", and have a toga party, thereby implying that all Greek people wear togas, and that's not racist, but a Mexican party with ponchos and sombreros is?

/CSB, when I was a junior in high school looking at colleges, there was a family from Greece in my tour group. The tour guide kept talking about the Greek life, and identified sorority row as "where all the Greeks live". The Greek mother said quite earnestly, "wow I didn't realize there was a big Greek population here. Kid, you should go to this school." and awkwardlarity ensued.

I don't think many mexican resteraunts celabrating cinco de mayo would find signs, about smoking weed and mowing lawns funny on that day either.


As someone engaged to a Mexican, She and I find no offense at this whatsoever. If you've ever been to a Mexican national men's soccer game, a lot of fans, including women, wear fake mustaches and sombreros w/ panchos. The signs are a little over the top, but meh. But, otherwise, I agree w/  Cygnus Darius>
 
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