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(Washington Times)   Ted Nugent's plan to save us from "Fedzillacrats"? Kill SS, Medicare and Medicaid, raise taxes on the poorest 50%, and revoke the right to vote for anyone on welfare. In other news, someone still pays Ted Nugent to express opinions on things   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 247
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2012-12-05 12:22:04 AM
Think the right likes him because it gives them someone to point to and say "See my ideas are relatively reasonable!"?
 
2012-12-05 12:29:26 AM

vegasj: SuperT: vegasj: I agree on the no voting if you are on welfare...

the rest I'm not sure about.

really? and when the capital classes figure out they don't have to worry about the proles voting against them if they hold the economy(their jobs) hostage? You thought "vote for X or it will be bad for our company" was sketchy, imagine giving them not only a quasi legal way to do that, but a way to ensure their opposition can't vote at all.

what then? This idea that a person has no worth unless they have wealth, and then denying them opportunity to make it, is twisted.

Soon there will be a time when there simply is not enough human necessary labor to go around, what then? do we dig holes and fill them in everyday just to justify living?

and that is any better than people voting for those that give the poor more entitlements & welfare how?

Doc Lee: vegasj: I agree on the no voting if you are on welfare...

the rest I'm not sure about.

Republicans would never win an election. There's plenty of welfare the redcoats receive but don't know they receive. The big ones are in the form of Medicare and Medicaid rural and disproportionate share programs, S-CHIP, and farm subsidies. I'm fully in favor of eliminating these programs for the redcoat states temporarily. It's the only way they are going to come to the realize just how much they rely on the rest of the country for support. As it stands now, the redcoats believe they are out there on their own. Let them have a taste of being truly on their own. Let them eat cake for awhile.

Republicans would never win an election.
Republicans would never win an election.
Republicans would never win an election.
Republicans would never win an election.
Republicans would never win an election.


With Democrats being the majority on welfare & Government handouts... how would this be?


Are you really sure about that?
 
2012-12-05 12:36:42 AM
The problem is we got a bunch of robots and chinamen doing all the jobs now. And them rich folk don't really like us around anymore.
 
2012-12-05 12:48:01 AM

vegasj: I said if ON welfare, no vote... I agreed with that. When people can vote themselves the politician who offers more welfare, they will win by default & will always win as long as they can offer up more handouts.

3rd, who the fark are you calling a piece of shiat you little snot nosed douchebag cum guzzler? You don't know me.


You don't think people on welfare should be able to vote. You kind of sound like a douchebag yourself (no offense).
 
2012-12-05 12:54:30 AM
Wow, I'm really surprised the Nuge hasn't had the crap beaten out of him for being such a Nazi farkhead.

I wonder if he sleeps with that crossbow.
 
2012-12-05 12:55:10 AM
It's really easy to propose changes that wouldn't affect you in the slightest.
 
2012-12-05 01:15:15 AM

Umeraken Ideut: Donnchadha: Three Crooked Squirrels: No American on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those Americans who are working and paying taxes to support them. That's insane.

Americans on welfare get to vote for tax increases? I don't have that right. Lucky Duckies.

A lot of local taxes are voted on by the public -- California is the famous example of this. They vote on any state imposed tax, which never passes, because who votes FOR a tax? and then they wonder why they have no money.

I vote FOR a tax when it comes up on local ballots, because I know it'll be put to good use. Then again, I'm not an uneducated moron (ie fiscal conservative).


In this last election, I voted for a local measure (didn't pass) that would have raised my property taxes to repair and rebuild several old, crumbling schools. I have no children of my own and don't plan to, but I too am not an uneducated moron. Taxes, and the things they pay for, are part of the social contract. I will happily pay for school improvements because I value education above just about anything else and I recognize the benefit to society, beyond myself.
 
2012-12-05 01:18:16 AM

shotglasss: Taxing the poor is not a bad idea, a small amount like 2% would bring in billions of dollars that Obama wants to desperately to spend on vacations to get the First Beast out of town so that he can eat like a man instead of the cuck she has turned him into.

Revoking voting for those on welfare is fine if they've been on gubmint checks for more than a year. Once they get off my dime they can vote again.


How much would this cost to implement?
 
2012-12-05 01:21:08 AM
I wonder what Ted Nugent thinks about that last vote for the Sportsmen's Act in the Senate.

Y'know, the one where all but one Democrat voted for it, and all but one Republican voted against it...all because a Democrat wrote it?

I betcha he blames those dirty librul cowards for making the Republicans vote against it.
 
2012-12-05 01:24:56 AM

I should be in the kitchen: Taxes, and the things they pay for, are part of the social contract. I will happily pay for school improvements because I value education above just about anything else and I recognize the benefit to society, beyond myself.

  

03.images.fireden.net
 
2012-12-05 01:44:14 AM
Ted Nugent is what happens when you take a redneck, with an already borderline personality, give him lots of money and let him surround himself with only those people who will agree with every single thing he says.
 
2012-12-05 02:13:07 AM

beta_plus: /You know what your precious Europe gave the world?
//Ethnic Cleansing, Concentration Camps, and Genocide - and the Godwin kind was just a certain flavor! They have much more than 31 of them!
///Nothing more European than a mile long train full of people to be gassed!


It's sickening that you sound so happy about it.

It's amusing that you're stuck in 1939 and don't seem to realize it.

(There's been genocide in Europe a lot more recently than "gassings" you know. Maybe you should catch up on recent history)
 
2012-12-05 02:17:55 AM
Ted Nugent Death/Jail Countdown

The clock is ticking Ted. 

On behalf of the state of Michigan, I'd like to apologize for this asshole.
 
2012-12-05 02:42:12 AM
pants shiatter
 
2012-12-05 03:01:00 AM
In other news, someone still pays Ted Nugent to express opinions on things

Yes, the Brothers of Cock.
 
2012-12-05 03:42:55 AM
I don't know, there's some legitimate merit to denying the right to vote for people on welfare. It's a huge conflict of political interest. A politician promises better benefits, boom, there goes your vote to them if you're on welfare. Nor should they really have any power to affect those of us in the country who actually contribute to it financially. Odds are if you're on welfare anyways, your ability to make decisions is awful.

The rest of what Nugent says is pretty laughable.
 
2012-12-05 03:59:27 AM

whidbey: In other news, someone still pays Ted Nugent to express opinions on things

Yes, the Brothers of Cock.


That would be funnier if you didn't know that Nugent probably thinks the name is pronounced "co-ch".
 
2012-12-05 04:27:42 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: beta_plus: [derp]

LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS!

Try looking at the world with your own eyes, listening with your own ears, and thinking with your own brain once in a while.


Objection, Your Honor. Assumes organs not in evidence.
 
2012-12-05 04:47:08 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: We are more than $16 trillion in debt today, and estimates are that America will be $22 trillion in debt at the end of this president's second term. If that's not a certifiable, titanic financial disaster, someone please tell the American public what is.


[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x201]
Here ya go.


Link

Hmm...I see the creepy old f*ck is still writing pedo songs. What do those Bible-thumping wingnuts see in this draft-dodging asshole, again?
 
2012-12-05 05:29:04 AM

Donnchadha: Cyberluddite: Donnchadha: A lot of local taxes are voted on by the public -- California is the famous example of this. They vote on any state imposed tax, which never passes, because who votes FOR a tax? and then they wonder why they have no money.

Except, you know, in the last election, when Prop 30 was approved. I can see how that might be forgotten, though, since it was damn near a month ago.

Fark if I know that. I don't live there.


Not only did Prop 30 just get passed, but the CA state legislature can pass tax hikes on their own with a 2/3 majority.
 
2012-12-05 05:30:02 AM
Typical conservative - two faced, pants shiatting coward who whines about paying his taxes. I think it's time we moved past considering such people's opinions.
 
2012-12-05 05:52:21 AM
I'm unclear on his plan here. He wants to take away the right to vote from anyone who doesn't work and he also wants to take away people's ability to not vote. All he'll do is end up with a lot more voters, and they are going to be pissed. How could this plan *possibly* work out?
 
Xai
2012-12-05 06:30:04 AM
Isn't paying to vote something that corrupt countries do?
 
2012-12-05 07:24:47 AM
If I want advice on what is a good electric guitar or what a good hunting bow is I will ask him. He has credibility there.

If not he is just another person with an opinion.
 
2012-12-05 07:37:58 AM

Terrible Old Man: A politician promises better benefits, boom, there goes your vote to them if you're on welfare.


Yeah, politicians never make promises to the wealthy. Or the middle class. Or religious groups. Or gun owners. Or labor unions. Or environmentalists. Or same-sex advocates. Or veterans.

Wow.
 
2012-12-05 07:58:31 AM
Ted Nugent - Real American Hero, Patriot.

i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-05 08:33:03 AM
FTA

Raising taxes on the wealthy, closing loopholes and eliminating deductions is analogous to seeing Michelangelo's very first short paint stroke on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel and claiming it's a masterpiece.

Sounds like crazy uncle Ted is off his meds again / still
 
2012-12-05 08:36:40 AM

"If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again,
I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year."

- Ted "Nutjob" Nugent



We're all waiting you piece of shiat.
 
2012-12-05 09:04:23 AM

m1ke: I feel dirty for agreeing with this one part of his incoherent ramble: "Every federal agency and department should be required to take an immediate, real 15 percent cut in its budget - no funny accounting tricks, but a real 15 percent cut."


Even defense?
 
2012-12-05 09:25:14 AM

kg2095: Are you really sure about that?


Yes.


And I stand corrected with my correction last night. I told you I hadn't slept.

If you do away with voting for those getting government handouts... how will republican never win? MORE Dems are on welfare than republicans. case closed.

Pincy: You don't think people on welfare should be able to vote. You kind of sound like a douchebag yourself (no offense).

None taken. But you really think it is right that people receiving "free" money (via the people who do work & pay the taxes that feed these programs) should be able to vote for their candidate (or vote 'D' across the board) when these candidates promise to give them more "free" money (handouts)?

I don't

 
2012-12-05 09:39:06 AM
Nugent/Trump 2016

This is what conservatives really believe.
 
2012-12-05 09:40:59 AM
In addition to slaughtering the three sacred entitlement cows that consume a vast majority of the federal budget (and I use the term budget generously), let's truly spread the pain around and raise taxes on everyone, including the nearly 50 percent of Americans who pay zero federal income taxes. Those Americans need to have some skin in the game, too. I recommend at least a 5 percent federal income tax bracket for them. The insane free ride needs to end.

This argument is hilariously wrong.

World of Class Warfare
 
2012-12-05 09:43:42 AM

ilambiquated: Even defense?


Yep, everything.
 
2012-12-05 09:49:41 AM

Corvus: You should because it's stupid:

See those tiniest slivers on the right there. Those are what you are talking about. You can never get about 1.5 trillion from 500 billion. People don't understand that the things the GOP are asking to cut are the tiniest parts of the budget.


I wasn't trying to get 1.5 trillion. I was just saying that I agree with a 15% cut in budgets across the board. "Your budget was 1 billion yesterday? Ok well going forward it is 850 million."
 
2012-12-05 09:57:23 AM

vegasj: ...when these candidates promise to give them more "free" money (handouts)?


Although this talking point has been thrown around a lot over the last couple of years, can you show any examples of actual candidates campaigning on giving more "free" money to poor people? Not accusations from the opposition. I'm asking for examples of actual promises of free money.
 
2012-12-05 10:44:29 AM
I'm just waiting for the news story where Nugent is killed by his own crossbow.
"He was cleaning it and it went off, shooting himself through the brain, killing him instantly."
"It might have been suicide says one close friend."
 
2012-12-05 10:57:34 AM

ilambiquated: m1ke: I feel dirty for agreeing with this one part of his incoherent ramble: "Every federal agency and department should be required to take an immediate, real 15 percent cut in its budget - no funny accounting tricks, but a real 15 percent cut."

Even defense?


15% Across the board cuts would generate roughly $520 billion in savings or roughly half of our deficit spending. Taxes must be raised on those that can afford to pay by a bunch just to come close to balancing the budget.
 
2012-12-05 12:54:57 PM

Terrible Old Man: I don't know, there's some legitimate merit to denying the right to vote for people on welfare. It's a huge conflict of political interest. A politician promises better benefits, boom, there goes your vote to them if you're on welfare. Nor should they really have any power to affect those of us in the country who actually contribute to it financially. Odds are if you're on welfare anyways, your ability to make decisions is awful.
The rest of what Nugent says is pretty laughable.


Conflicting political interests is why we all vote.
 
2012-12-05 02:16:48 PM
"So, what about those who are disabled so they have no choice but to go on Disability because they cannot work? Is Der NugentFuhrer also going to declare them as Unfit and tear away their right to vote as well?

For a guy who screams & whines about the Constitution so much, he sure has some seriously anti-Constitutional daydreams."
 
2012-12-05 02:47:25 PM
Hey Ted - Still working on that whole "dead or in jail" thing? Please let us know.

Sincerely,

Everyone with a brain.
 
2012-12-05 02:57:38 PM

Donnchadha: Three Crooked Squirrels: No American on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those Americans who are working and paying taxes to support them. That's insane.

Americans on welfare get to vote for tax increases? I don't have that right. Lucky Duckies.

A lot of local taxes are voted on by the public -- California is the famous example of this. They vote on any state imposed tax, which never passes, because who votes FOR a tax? and then they wonder why they have no money.


We vote against every tax because we're already have the fourth highest taxes in the entire country. We're broke because every stupid idea ever imagined is given funding via the initiative process. Unlike your typical Californian, I understand basic math, so I vote against all those funding initiatives. Unfortunately, I am vastly outnumbered.
 
2012-12-05 07:15:48 PM
Has anyone mentioned the metric f*cktons of Tea Party people that will be on their asses and maybe even dying in the gutter, if Ted Loogy got his way?

No Social Security
No Medicaid
No Medicare

This does not happy the kitty.

Why are the Republicans trying to kill their own constituency?
 
2012-12-05 07:19:00 PM

vegasj: kg2095: Are you really sure about that?

Yes.


And I stand corrected with my correction last night. I told you I hadn't slept.

If you do away with voting for those getting government handouts... how will republican never win? MORE Dems are on welfare than republicans. case closed.Pincy: You don't think people on welfare should be able to vote. You kind of sound like a douchebag yourself (no offense).
None taken. But you really think it is right that people receiving "free" money (via the people who do work & pay the taxes that feed these programs) should be able to vote for their candidate (or vote 'D' across the board) when these candidates promise to give them more "free" money (handouts)?

I don't


I like how your blog sources itself for the information and considers Unemployment the same as welfare.
 
2012-12-05 07:38:21 PM

vegasj: kg2095: Are you really sure about that?

Yes.


And I stand corrected with my correction last night. I told you I hadn't slept.

If you do away with voting for those getting government handouts... how will republican never win? MORE Dems are on welfare than republicans. case closed.Pincy: You don't think people on welfare should be able to vote. You kind of sound like a douchebag yourself (no offense).
None taken. But you really think it is right that people receiving "free" money (via the people who do work & pay the taxes that feed these programs) should be able to vote for their candidate (or vote 'D' across the board) when these candidates promise to give them more "free" money (handouts)?

I don't


I'm not going to just take your word for that. Where's your cite?
 
2012-12-05 08:17:29 PM

Kittypie070: Has anyone mentioned the metric f*cktons of Tea Party people that will be on their asses and maybe even dying in the gutter, if Ted Loogy got his way?

No Social Security
No Medicaid
No Medicare

This does not happy the kitty.

Why are the Republicans trying to kill their own constituency?


They'll sacrifice their own in a heartbeat to get what they want, and then they'll blame Obama and Democrats for it. That's how Republicans work.

Personally I hope they start eating their own. Darwin's likely chomping at the bit to remove these defects from the gene pool.
 
2012-12-06 06:08:05 PM
I thought that dumb SOB was supposed to die if Obama won ... well I'm waiting.
 
2012-12-08 06:19:03 AM
Maybe it SHOULD happy the kitty to watch the GOP kill their own.

I'm sick of them.

/shiatty day, now cannot sleep, 3f*ckingAM local time
 
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