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2012-12-05 09:10:59 AM

StoPPeRmobile: whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.

I know, right. Krampus is the real deal.
[sellin.com image 363x558]


oh sure you would bring up Krampus here on Krampusnacht eve
 
2012-12-05 09:11:46 AM

Sofa King Smart: to add to the confusion, my wife's family is of German catholic ancestry... Saint Nick day is tomorrow (Dec 6th) within the church... but Saint Nick is different from Santa Claus...Saint Nick leaves small presents, candy in stockings... but he's different than Santa Claus... explain that to an 8 year old.


We do that, too. Do you put onions/potatoes in the stockings too if they've been a little naughty?

Along with the little gifts, I mean.
 
2012-12-05 09:23:00 AM

untaken_name: Pichu0102: Part of living in society is knowing and following some of it's unsaid rules, one of which is: Don't farking tell 5 year olds Santa isn't real.

Another one is, "Don't use an apostrophe when using the possessive form of 'it'."


fark!
 
2012-12-05 09:33:38 AM

Frederick: Apparently misleading kids is where the real joy is.


So a teacher should reccommend a child pursue a higher education at a university so they can start their lives 100k in debt with no job prospect?


Talk about misleading........
 
2012-12-05 09:34:57 AM

Slesfo: I'm a (relatively theologically conservative) pastor, and part time troll on fark (part time enough that nobody recognizes me, but i've been here a LONG TIME), imitating idiot conservatives to vent my frustration about them.

Anyway, my favorite thing to tell members of my church who think that it's adorable to tell kids about Santa is that many people point to their disillusionment about Santa as the first step in their turning away from God, and that by telling them lies about Santa Claus, you demonstrate that you care more about your own amusement than the spiritual destiny of your child.


So...believe in one imaginary being over another?
 
2012-12-05 09:35:22 AM

pippi longstocking: When I was five I told my mother that Santa didn't much sense and I knew he wasn't real.


"Santa didn't much sense"? WTF does that even mean?
 
2012-12-05 09:41:20 AM

Pichu0102: Good lord, when it comes to some topics, Fark is as hardline as Slashdot's Open Source or the highway types. You don't need to tell 5 year old kids Santa isn't real. Just leave it alone and move on. It wasn't a problem until the teacher made it one. Part of living in society is knowing and following some of it's unsaid rules, one of which is: Don't farking tell 5 year olds Santa isn't real.


Leave it to other 5 year olds to do the job for you. right?

/never believed
//likes presents
 
2012-12-05 09:44:20 AM
Wow...there are a lot of sad, lonely assholes on Fark today.
 
2012-12-05 09:44:44 AM
I'm afraid that we need to destroy all childhood whimsy. "My Little Pony" is therefore cancelled.
 
2012-12-05 09:44:59 AM

ferretman: Wow...there are a lot of sad, lonely assholes on Fark today.


One extra word.
 
2012-12-05 10:15:39 AM

ibsalamander: skullkrusher: ibsalamander: what gives them the right to claim the upper hand in an argument based on (faulty) logic, when there are massive logical inconsistencies with their philosophy starting on page one of their official creed?

nothing.

ibsalamander: Sigh... why do I always fall for this troll?

which?

atheism is a religion because it's based on faith in the non-existence of (their) God.


ah that's an oldie but a goodie for the reaction it generates :)
 
2012-12-05 10:20:36 AM

MadAzza: skullkrusher: Frederick: Apparently misleading kids is where the real joy is.

yep - sometimes I even pretend I can't find my son when he's hiding his eyes only to surprise him with a nonsense word that sounds something like "Peek-a-boo!" when he uncovers them to his great delight.

You're destroying your child! Someday he's going to find out you're lying -- not only about this, but about potentially EVERYTHING in his world ... everything! - and this knowledge will turn him into a serial killer, right before he puts you in an old folks home where they specialize in elder-torture and euthanasia! Then he'll wreck your car.

But you just go ahead and keep lying to your kid.


hehe
 
2012-12-05 11:59:18 AM

The Muthaship: Sofa King Smart: to add to the confusion, my wife's family is of German catholic ancestry... Saint Nick day is tomorrow (Dec 6th) within the church... but Saint Nick is different from Santa Claus...Saint Nick leaves small presents, candy in stockings... but he's different than Santa Claus... explain that to an 8 year old.

We do that, too. Do you put onions/potatoes in the stockings too if they've been a little naughty?

Along with the little gifts, I mean.


we didn't do it with out kids but I've heard stories like that from relatives on her side of the family... a lot of the family is still in the same area, one cousin moved to the Atlanta area several years ago and now has young kids... and brought up the whole St Nick Santa Claus issue on facebook last year... her kids went to school and none of the other kids knew what they were talking about leaving stockings out for Saint Nick on the night of the 5th... she had to try to explain to them when they got home from school why the other kids didn't know about it.
 
2012-12-05 12:38:04 PM

WhippingBoy: Let's play my favorite game:

"Who here actually has children?"


2-year-old daughter, and anyone who tries to take joy away from her childhood will have to deal with me. To childless Farkers: this is not being an ITG. You'll understand what I mean if / when you have kiddos of your own.
 
2012-12-05 12:43:43 PM

BigNumber12: WhippingBoy: Let's play my favorite game:

"Who here actually has children?"

2-year-old daughter, and anyone who tries to take joy away from her childhood will have to deal with me. To childless Farkers: this is not being an ITG. You'll understand what I mean if / when you have kiddos of your own.


Meh.

Just part of the brainwashing process.
 
2012-12-05 12:47:52 PM

whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.


Would you care to write the dissenting opinion on that? I mean, it's pretty clear that lots of people disagree with you.

Frederick: TwowheelinTim: So the hero tag is on vacation subby? I feel the world would be a much better place if we didn't perpetuate these seemingly innocuous lies.

Careful...you might be a joyless farkwit

skullkrusher: The ones not acting like joyless farkwits I'd imagine

Apparently misleading kids is where the real joy is.


Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you.
 
2012-12-05 12:56:25 PM

StoPPeRmobile: BigNumber12: WhippingBoy: Let's play my favorite game:

"Who here actually has children?"

2-year-old daughter, and anyone who tries to take joy away from her childhood will have to deal with me. To childless Farkers: this is not being an ITG. You'll understand what I mean if / when you have kiddos of your own.

Meh.

Just part of the brainwashing process.



Whereas you're in possession of Ultimate Truth, right?
 
2012-12-05 01:35:46 PM

BigNumber12: StoPPeRmobile: BigNumber12: WhippingBoy: Let's play my favorite game:

"Who here actually has children?"

2-year-old daughter, and anyone who tries to take joy away from her childhood will have to deal with me. To childless Farkers: this is not being an ITG. You'll understand what I mean if / when you have kiddos of your own.

Meh.

Just part of the brainwashing process.


Whereas you're in possession of Ultimate Truth, right?


Not sure what that means but if it requires deceit then that sounds fishy to me.
 
2012-12-05 01:44:43 PM

BigNumber12: WhippingBoy: Let's play my favorite game:

"Who here actually has children?"

2-year-old daughter, and anyone who tries to take joy away from her childhood will have to deal with me. To childless Farkers: this is not being an ITG. You'll understand what I mean if / when you have kiddos of your own.


I had nearly posted something similar but thought better of it, as it included details.
 
2012-12-05 01:58:04 PM

skullkrusher: Keizer_Ghidorah: skullkrusher: Keizer_Ghidorah: I like that. How dare those peasants try to teach my children about reality, they should know their place! Such low and feeble things, they should be honored to even look at my kids!

hehe, you are a parody of a stereotype, right? This is performance art?

Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, don't want teachers teaching your kids, them home-school them. Gotta protect them from the real world.

I am not going to homeschool my kids. They'd turn out to be terribly adjusted, strange people who'd do things like argue that it is cool for a teacher to tell a 5 year old there's no Santa.

Nope, just emulating you.

Sorry if how I think makes you angry, but a school is supposed to teach children about the real world and reality.

by intentionally taking a comment as an offensive statement even though it was clearly not? Says more about you than me.

I think we should replace Valentine's Day projects for mom and dad with explanations of how love is merely a neural chemical response to their parents. Ya know, for reality and stuff.

Don't teach, don't breed.


Yeah, let's compare apples to oranges. That's the skullkrusher way.
 
2012-12-05 02:16:52 PM
I haven't read the entire thread yet, only up to page 5, sorry if this has already been posted.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
 
2012-12-05 02:17:14 PM
In Texas, teaching kids the truth will get you in trouble with the authorities. Ric Romero reporting.

"We dun need nun o'dat truth biznez herebouts!"
 
2012-12-05 03:31:59 PM

Gunny Highway: People have an issue with telling kids Santa Claus is real?


Yes. People without kids. People that had crappy childhoods. People that are just crappy in general.
 
2012-12-05 03:51:47 PM
At least she didn't get arrested.

Link
 
2012-12-05 04:23:12 PM

dustygrimp: whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.

Would you care to write the dissenting opinion on that? I mean, it's pretty clear that lots of people disagree with you.


So? This isn't a popularity contest. There is no Santa Claus.

This is a fact. And it's kind of disturbing that people find comfort in continuing to spread that kind of lie throughout generations. Christmas itself is kind of disturbing in that if you don't go along with the busy bees, you get a lot of sh*t for it and are somewhat ostracized.

It's a great excuse and it's a good time. Otherwise, Christmas is a bullshiat mega-capitalist corporatist holiday and you damn well know it. Sorry if that pops your balloon.
 
2012-12-05 04:25:06 PM
Great, now can we pass an amendment repealing the 17th amendment too?
 
2012-12-05 05:08:30 PM

whidbey: dustygrimp: whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.

Would you care to write the dissenting opinion on that? I mean, it's pretty clear that lots of people disagree with you.

So? This isn't a popularity contest. There is no Santa Claus.

This is a fact. And it's kind of disturbing that people find comfort in continuing to spread that kind of lie throughout generations. Christmas itself is kind of disturbing in that if you don't go along with the busy bees, you get a lot of sh*t for it and are somewhat ostracized.

It's a great excuse and it's a good time. Otherwise, Christmas is a bullshiat mega-capitalist corporatist holiday and you damn well know it. Sorry if that pops your balloon.


You're making a lot out of something simple. Don't f*ck with someone else's kids. That's all.

/I hate that Christmas has become a phony 'want to be seen as overachieving' , too. But that's a different subject.
 
2012-12-05 05:11:09 PM

whidbey: dustygrimp: whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.

Would you care to write the dissenting opinion on that? I mean, it's pretty clear that lots of people disagree with you.

So? This isn't a popularity contest. There is no Santa Claus.

This is a fact. And it's kind of disturbing that people find comfort in continuing to spread that kind of lie throughout generations. Christmas itself is kind of disturbing in that if you don't go along with the busy bees, you get a lot of sh*t for it and are somewhat ostracized.

It's a great excuse and it's a good time. Otherwise, Christmas is a bullshiat mega-capitalist corporatist holiday and you damn well know it. Sorry if that pops your balloon.


I was actually referring to the not being worth 476 comments assertion but...

Is there a Santa Claus? Yes. It is not a jolly fat guy in a red suit who leaves presents for all the good gentile children. It's the spirit of giving that grips many of us this time of year. It's the desire to make our family and friends happy. It's the ability to see that even though it's a boon for capitalists, the spirit of the people can carry us to a better place. It's all those things embodied in the symbol of Santa Claus the man. When my 4 year old asks me if there is a Santa Claus, you're god damn right I say yes because I want her to believe that there is a time when people can rise above the misery that surrounds us and remember how fortunate we are in what we have.
 
2012-12-05 05:48:11 PM

Nana's Vibrator: You're making a lot out of something simple. Don't f*ck with someone else's kids. That's all.


So doing your job as a teacher is "f*cking with someone else's kids?"

/I hate that Christmas has become a phony 'want to be seen as overachieving' , too. But that's a different subject.

Well, I doubt we are going to get around to discussing that subject if you're that uptight about telling kids the truth about Christmas.

dustygrimp: When my 4 year old asks me if there is a Santa Claus, you're god damn right I say yes because I want her to believe that there is a time when people can rise above the misery that surrounds us and remember how fortunate we are in what we have.


I guess I don't understand why you would have to lie about the existence of a mythical being to achieve that goal.
 
2012-12-05 05:52:27 PM

whidbey: So doing your job as a teacher is "f*cking with someone else's kids?"


How is telling 5 year olds that Santa isn't real part of her job?
 
2012-12-05 05:55:17 PM

The Muthaship: whidbey: So doing your job as a teacher is "f*cking with someone else's kids?"

How is telling 5 year olds that Santa isn't real part of her job?


Because teachers teach.

Telling kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist constitutes teaching information.

I shouldn't have to put two and two together for you. You really just can't handle that there isn't really a Santa Claus, can you? And you're not even a kid.
 
2012-12-05 06:02:43 PM

whidbey: Because teachers teach.


Kindergarten teachers have to follow a set curriculum, you think teaching kids there's no Santa is on it or do you think this sad woman freelanced it?

To me, there is a Santa Claus. It's not a person, it's a sort of concept. I loved it as a kid, and my kids love it, too. I'm sorry you didn't and don't have that.
 
2012-12-05 06:52:31 PM

whidbey: Because teachers teach.


I know I was a little pissed off when I didn't see the Holocaust on my preschoolers curriculum.

/yes I went there
 
2012-12-05 07:02:34 PM

The Muthaship: To me, there is a Santa Claus. It's not a person, it's a sort of concept. I loved it as a kid, and my kids love it, too. I'm sorry you didn't and don't have that.


Assume much?

/yes I went there

Yes because telling kids that Santa Claus is a myth is exactly the same thing as teaching them about Nazi genocide. What was I thinking?
 
2012-12-05 07:05:09 PM

whidbey: Assume much?


Nope:

whidbey: There is no Santa Claus.

 
2012-12-05 07:11:12 PM

The Muthaship: whidbey: Assume much?

Nope:


More like "yeah."

You seem to think just because I understand that Santa Claus is a myth it means I didn't enjoy Christmas as a kid, or that I don't enjoy winter festivities now. .

That's actually a very pointed assumption, and it's actually kind of sad to see someone clinging that hard onto such a over-commercialized myth that they have to take it out on the person delivering the message.
 
2012-12-05 07:20:55 PM

whidbey: That's actually a very pointed assumption, and it's actually kind of sad to see someone clinging that hard onto such a over-commercialized myth that they have to take it out on the person delivering the message.


Do you get paid per response to your whiny drivel? If so, here's you last payment. Merry Christmas!
 
2012-12-05 07:40:24 PM

moothemagiccow: kg2095: Krymson Tyde: The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies like that.

I'm okay with other people minding their own goddamn business.

That teacher has robbed those children of their childhoods.

If by "childhood" you mean the age where it's adorable to be gullible, fark you.


You know, I got a 24 hour suspension for less aggression than that. Just last month.
 
2012-12-05 08:15:06 PM

The Muthaship: whidbey: That's actually a very pointed assumption, and it's actually kind of sad to see someone clinging that hard onto such a over-commercialized myth that they have to take it out on the person delivering the message.

Do you get paid per response to your whiny drivel? If so, here's you last payment. Merry Christmas!


Hey, you could have just ignored him or acknowledged that he's correct, instead of whining about teachers doing their jobs and how people who can tell fantasy from reality are heartless demons.
 
2012-12-05 10:17:45 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, you could have just ignored him or acknowledged that he's correct, instead of whining about teachers doing their jobs and how people who can tell fantasy from reality are heartless demons.


Merry Christmas to you, too.
 
2012-12-05 10:38:33 PM

The Muthaship: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, you could have just ignored him or acknowledged that he's correct, instead of whining about teachers doing their jobs and how people who can tell fantasy from reality are heartless demons.

Merry Christmas to you, too.


holderbaum.educationextras.com
 
2012-12-06 09:31:12 AM

untaken_name: Pichu0102: Part of living in society is knowing and following some of it's unsaid rules, one of which is: Don't farking tell 5 year olds Santa isn't real.

Another one is, "Don't use an apostrophe when using the possessive form of 'it'."


what if you're talking about something that belongs to Cousin It?

"Hey, what in the hell, there's hair everywhere - whose brush is this?"
"It's It's."
 
2012-12-07 05:56:25 PM
I want to infinitive, and *looks down* oops, I just did...
 
2012-12-07 10:00:57 PM

dustygrimp: whidbey: There is no Santa Claus

Well, there isn't. Not really worth 476 comments, though.

Would you care to write the dissenting opinion on that? I mean, it's pretty clear that lots of people disagree with you.

Frederick: TwowheelinTim: So the hero tag is on vacation subby? I feel the world would be a much better place if we didn't perpetuate these seemingly innocuous lies.

Careful...you might be a joyless farkwit

skullkrusher: The ones not acting like joyless farkwits I'd imagine

Apparently misleading kids is where the real joy is.

Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you.


That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say. Was it through transparency and honesty that allowed the Catholic church to get away with institutionalized abuse?
 
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