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2012-12-04 09:18:01 PM

sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.


You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?
 
2012-12-04 09:18:34 PM

Porous Horace: Who is John Galt?


Fuk Ayn Rand.

She was a self-absorbed, self-described, and self-aggrandized douchebag, period.

To overidentify with a fabricated self
 
2012-12-04 09:18:43 PM

99.998er: Lernaeus: Coco LaFemme: However, 5-year-olds are supposed to believe in supernatural/mythical beings. They're kids.

Which is totally why you should treat them like idiots, instead of teaching them the basic skills they need to become independent human beings.

There's nothing wrong with stories and make-believe, but acting like it's real is stupid and insulting to children.

At 5 years old, I really don't think teaching them skills they need to become independent human beings would be paramount. By your account, why drive them 10 miles out of town with only a sleeping bag and canteen and kick them out of the car? That should teach them independence by God! The imagination of a 5 year old is priceless! Why don't you just stomp on on a Faberge Egg?


Why shouldn't we man?! They have to grow up sometime! We should lower your age to 3 years old.
 
2012-12-04 09:19:19 PM

Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?


Apostrophe?

*Sigh*
 
2012-12-04 09:19:29 PM

soupbone: encouraging the imagination and creativity of children


Young children learn from experience that stating an untruth can avoid punishment for misdeeds, before they develop the theory of mind necessary to understand why it works. In this stage of development, children will sometimes tell outrageous and unbelievable lies, because they lack the conceptual framework to judge whether a statement is believable, or even to understand the concept of believability.

When children first learn how lying works, they lack the moral understanding of when to refrain from doing it. This takes years of watching people tell lies, and the results of these lies, to develop a proper understanding. Propensity to lie varies greatly between children, some doing so habitually and others being habitually honest. Habits in this regard are likely to change in early adulthood. -- wikipedia


"Santa knows when you've been bad." - a lie
"I have been very good!" - another lie

Encouraging creativity!
 
2012-12-04 09:19:46 PM

madgordy: ManateeGag: The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies like that.

I'm sure you'd be ok with an athiest teacher telling a christian student that there is no God too, right?

I am OK with this.

I also am OK with asking the kids to ask their partents to provide proof of the existance of any god.
I am also OK with asking the religious people who come to my door to provide any proof what so ever of a supernatural being, any being any proof.

the best any of them have done so far is , "I just have this feeling that there is." basically an emotional need for there to be gods.

ts4.mm.bing.net

 
2012-12-04 09:20:33 PM
I love the lefties. One day they're telling you to to let kids be kids, the next, they're telling you to spoil holidays for 5 year olds in the name of truth.
 
2012-12-04 09:20:37 PM
To ass
 
2012-12-04 09:20:48 PM

spunkymunky: Last week I convinced my 5 year old daughter and 3 year old son that Krampus is real.
It's pretty damn awesome.


I managed to convince some guys that 9/11 was an inside job, and that Obama isn't American.

To be fair, they probably still believed in Santa Claus, too.
 
2012-12-04 09:20:58 PM
spunkymunky: It's things like that that make me wish I had kids.
 
2012-12-04 09:21:39 PM

Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*


Huh?
 
2012-12-04 09:21:43 PM

sendtodave: spunkymunky: Last week I convinced my 5 year old daughter and 3 year old son that Krampus is real.
It's pretty damn awesome.

I managed to convince some guys that 9/11 was an inside job, and that Obama isn't American.

To be fair, they probably still believed in Santa Claus, too.


Are you keeping score?
 
2012-12-04 09:21:48 PM

sendtodave: soupbone: encouraging the imagination and creativity of children

Young children learn from experience that stating an untruth can avoid punishment for misdeeds, before they develop the theory of mind necessary to understand why it works. In this stage of development, children will sometimes tell outrageous and unbelievable lies, because they lack the conceptual framework to judge whether a statement is believable, or even to understand the concept of believability.

When children first learn how lying works, they lack the moral understanding of when to refrain from doing it. This takes years of watching people tell lies, and the results of these lies, to develop a proper understanding. Propensity to lie varies greatly between children, some doing so habitually and others being habitually honest. Habits in this regard are likely to change in early adulthood. -- wikipedia

"Santa knows when you've been bad." - a lie
"I have been very good!" - another lie

Encouraging creativity!


Wikipedia Psych 101! Thanks for the child psychology lesson! Now I know why I come to Fark. To learn how to raise kids from the best and brightest in the world.
 
2012-12-04 09:22:07 PM

Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?


If the kid isn't really sorry, they'd be lying.
 
2012-12-04 09:22:19 PM

Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?


Exactly.
 
2012-12-04 09:25:19 PM

DreamyAltarBoy: It seems I was born to piss on your fantasies.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-12-04 09:25:42 PM

Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.


I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.
 
2012-12-04 09:26:36 PM

soupbone: Wikipedia Psych 101! Thanks for the child psychology lesson! Now I know why I come to Fark. To learn how to raise kids from the best and brightest in the world.


Um. All that basically said is that "kids learn that lying works, but they're not very good at it."

Is this incorrect?
 
2012-12-04 09:27:03 PM
The teacher is a farking moron. Everyone stops believing in Santa Claus in their own time. I don't remember the exact age I stopped believing, but it was a natural transition from myth to reality.
 
2012-12-04 09:27:07 PM
The kids have become body count in the War on Christmas.
 
2012-12-04 09:27:10 PM

Indubitably: Porous Horace: Who is John Galt?

Fuk Ayn Rand.

She was a self-absorbed, self-described, and self-aggrandized douchebag, period.

To overidentify with a fabricated self


Um... do you realize that you posted a complete sentence?
Are you feeling ok?
 
2012-12-04 09:27:24 PM

Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.

I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.


Awwwww.
 
2012-12-04 09:28:09 PM

Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.

I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.


You said "dont." The horror.
 
2012-12-04 09:28:20 PM

Porous Horace: Indubitably: Porous Horace: Who is John Galt?

Fuk Ayn Rand.

She was a self-absorbed, self-described, and self-aggrandized douchebag, period.

To overidentify with a fabricated self

Um... do you realize that you posted a complete sentence?
Are you feeling ok?


Cute.
 
2012-12-04 09:28:29 PM
You can be a douchebag all you want to adults, but leave the kids the fark alone.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-04 09:29:12 PM

Coco LaFemme: BTW, I see a difference between Santa and God. When my sister and I were little, I don't remember my parents threatening us with no Christmas if we didn't behave, because Santa wouldn't come and leave presents under our tree. I do however, remember them telling us that if we didn't pray every night before going to bed, God would be very angry at us and if God was angry at you, bad things would happen. One night I didn't pray before going to bed, I was maybe 8 or 9 years old, and the next morning, I fell down the stairs and broke my ankle. I was convinced that if I had prayed the night before, I wouldn't have a broken ankle. That kind of shiat psychologically scars a child.


Proof God exists!!!

/and that he micromanages
 
2012-12-04 09:29:24 PM

Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.

I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.

Awwwww.


Ohhhhhhhh.
 
2012-12-04 09:29:30 PM

sendtodave: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.

I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.

You said "dont." The horror.


*circle the wagons of dysfunction*
 
2012-12-04 09:30:36 PM
So I hung up on that two-year-old little snot. Sent him crying. It was a good start to a day that could do nothing but improve as it lived itself out.
 
2012-12-04 09:30:36 PM
If she did that to one of my kids, I would possibly rape her in such a way as for her to start begging GOD for salvation from me, and then start cursing GOD for how much he is making her suffer, then finally come to the realization that God is not listening to her because she does not truly believe.

It would take a couple of hours, maybe days... but it would happen.


of course that just complete conjecture I would never do that and dont advocate anyone do that.
 
2012-12-04 09:30:40 PM
Deck us all with Boston Charlie,
Walla Walla, Wash., an' Kalamazoo!
Nora's freezin' on the trolley,
Swaller dollar cauliflower alley-garoo!

Don't we know archaic barrel
Lullaby Lilla Boy, Louisville Lou?
Trolley Molly don't love Harold,
Boola boola Pensacoola hullabaloo!

Bark us all bow-wows of folly,
Polly wolly cracker 'n' too-da-loo!
Donkey Bonny brays a carol,
Antelope Cantaloupe, 'lope with you!

Hunky Dory's pop is lolly gaggin' on the wagon,
Willy, folly go through!
Chollie's collie barks at Barrow,
Harum scarum five alarm bung-a-loo!

Dunk us all in bowls of barley,
Hinky dinky dink an' polly voo!
Chilly Filly's name is Chollie,
Chollie Filly's jolly chilly view halloo!

Bark us all bow-wows of folly,
Double-bubble, toyland trouble! Woof, woof, woof!
Tizzy seas on melon collie!
Dibble-dabble, scribble-scrabble! Goof, goof, goof!

Tickle salty boss anchovie,
Wash a wash a wall Anna Kangaroo!
Ducky allus bows to Polly,
Prolly Wally would but har'ly do!

Dock us all a bowsprit, Solly,
Golly, Solly's cold and so's ol' Lou!

-Walt Kelly

/the truth is out there
 
2012-12-04 09:31:37 PM

mattharvest: ManateeGag: I'm sure you'd be ok with an athiest teacher telling a christian student that there is no God too, right?

Why is a school talking about Santa or any other religious figure at all?


Hint: Santa is not a religious figure

when i was in elementary school 30 yrs ago, we talked about Santa and drew pictures of him around christmastime, and he was represented in our school christmas plays.

I'm atheist, but still let my kids have the magic of santa belief when they were kids, right along with the tooth fairy and easter bunny. Sooner or later they find out that its not real, and usually are not traumatized by this realization.

At the same time, I see no reason for this teacher to outright tell kindergartners that santa isn't real and that their parents are lying to them. That's just not called for.
 
2012-12-04 09:31:49 PM
Only a certain sect of the community is upset that teachers dont perpetuate a lie.
 
2012-12-04 09:32:14 PM

Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: Indubitably: Gunny Highway: sendtodave: Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.

You shouldn't apologize for doing something dickish to someone you dont like?

Apostrophe?

*Sigh*

Huh?

Exactly.

I'm assuming I did something stupid and you are making fun. Continue if you must.

Awwwww.

Ohhhhhhhh.


What did you realize?

Here's what I noticed: you forget to apostrophe the "dont".

This fits into my theory about Republicans and apostrophes, but that would be a threadjack, so I shan't, but really?
 
2012-12-04 09:32:47 PM

sendtodave: soupbone: Wikipedia Psych 101! Thanks for the child psychology lesson! Now I know why I come to Fark. To learn how to raise kids from the best and brightest in the world.

Um. All that basically said is that "kids learn that lying works, but they're not very good at it."

Is this incorrect?


"Encouraging creativity!"

This was the last part of your post suggesting that a belief in Santa = kids learning to lie. I counter that the simple belief in something mythical like Santa stimulates the imagination of children. Again, it's young minds that shouldn't be shown videos of war, death, or any other adult themed chaos. Reality kicks in soon enough and needs no fast forward button.
 
2012-12-04 09:33:10 PM
Deck the halls with lox and bagels

/channukah carol
 
2012-12-04 09:34:01 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Deck us all with Boston Charlie,
Walla Walla, Wash., an' Kalamazoo!
Nora's freezin' on the trolley,
Swaller dollar cauliflower alley-garoo!

Don't we know archaic barrel
Lullaby Lilla Boy, Louisville Lou?
Trolley Molly don't love Harold,
Boola boola Pensacoola hullabaloo!

Bark us all bow-wows of folly,
Polly wolly cracker 'n' too-da-loo!
Donkey Bonny brays a carol,
Antelope Cantaloupe, 'lope with you!

Hunky Dory's pop is lolly gaggin' on the wagon,
Willy, folly go through!
Chollie's collie barks at Barrow,
Harum scarum five alarm bung-a-loo!

Dunk us all in bowls of barley,
Hinky dinky dink an' polly voo!
Chilly Filly's name is Chollie,
Chollie Filly's jolly chilly view halloo!

Bark us all bow-wows of folly,
Double-bubble, toyland trouble! Woof, woof, woof!
Tizzy seas on melon collie!
Dibble-dabble, scribble-scrabble! Goof, goof, goof!

Tickle salty boss anchovie,
Wash a wash a wall Anna Kangaroo!
Ducky allus bows to Polly,
Prolly Wally would but har'ly do!

Dock us all a bowsprit, Solly,
Golly, Solly's cold and so's ol' Lou!

-Walt Kelly

/the truth is out there


Wow.

Dense.

*)
 
2012-12-04 09:35:32 PM

soupbone: This was the last part of your post suggesting that a belief in Santa = kids learning to lie. I counter that the simple belief in something mythical like Santa stimulates the imagination of children. Again, it's young minds that shouldn't be shown videos of war, death, or any other adult themed chaos. Reality kicks in soon enough and needs no fast forward button.


Reality isn't all that bad. Nothing to hide from. Or hide your children from.
 
2012-12-04 09:35:52 PM

dopekitty74: Hint: Santa is not a religious figure


hint
yes he is
Saint Nicholas. look it up

interestingly enough with the timing. Tomorrow is the feast of st nicholas
 
2012-12-04 09:36:48 PM
Reality is the only place where one can find escapes from reality.
 
2012-12-04 09:37:25 PM

Porous Horace: Deck the halls with lox and bagels

/channukah carol


God Rest Ye Yummy, Gentlemen
 
2012-12-04 09:38:10 PM

Blue_Blazer: Oh and the other point I made to the wife and to my dad: why the fark should I allow my kid to think some made-up being gave him all these sweet gifts. I'd much rather he know that he got these presents from Mom and Dad who love him, and that's just what people do this time of year.


wouldn't that be worst for them psychologically at that age? ........ that your love for them is based on material gifts?
 
2012-12-04 09:39:59 PM
"Also, children, that good monster who stays in your room at night to keep you safe from the bad monsters? Not real. There's no bad monster, either; it's just a silly fear based on your developing mind's simplistic understanding that you are an insignificant speck with no ability to control your surroundings.

"And your cousin who died in Afghanistan? Yeah, I know your parents told you he died bravely, but they were lying. His last moments were consumed with fear, and he was screaming for his mommy while his buddies tried to stuff his guts back in. Then he peed himself and died. He came home in a full-sized coffin, but that wasn't really necessary.

"Okay kids, nap time!"
 
2012-12-04 09:40:01 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: As I said, I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies...


And I'm okay with you minding you own goddam business.
 
2012-12-04 09:40:17 PM

dopekitty74: Sooner or later they find out that its not real, and usually are not traumatized by this realization.


People keep saying this. They'll figure it out sooner or later.

Will you tell them, sooner or later, that you had encouraged them to believe in made up shiat?

That seems the responsible thing to do.
 
2012-12-04 09:41:44 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Blue_Blazer: Oh and the other point I made to the wife and to my dad: why the fark should I allow my kid to think some made-up being gave him all these sweet gifts. I'd much rather he know that he got these presents from Mom and Dad who love him, and that's just what people do this time of year.

wouldn't that be worst for them psychologically at that age? ........ that your love for them is based on material gifts?


Gifts have been an expression of affection since, well, the first gift ever. That's what gifts are, tokens of affection. I suppose I could try it the old-fashioned way, where my beating the shiat out of them is because I love them, but I like my way better.
 
2012-12-04 09:42:36 PM

RassilonsExWife: The My Little Pony Killer: As I said, I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies...

And I'm okay with you minding you own goddam business.


It was the teachers business. You know, teaching children.
 
2012-12-04 09:43:22 PM
I suspect that we're going to see more and more studies investigating correlation between the rates of children who were robbed of their childhoods, and people in their 20s and 30s who seem to regress to adolescence and postpone adulthood as long as possible.
 
2012-12-04 09:43:52 PM
Sometimes, I think I've got it pretty rough.

That's why I like Fark. I browse threads like this, and I think to myself, "no matter how bad I've got it, at least I'm not like some of these soulless assholes".
 
2012-12-04 09:44:20 PM

Frederick: Only a certain sect of the community is upset that teachers dont perpetuate a lie.


That sect being the tax payers who provide teachers with theri salary
 
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