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2012-12-04 08:52:50 PM
Santa is a minor deity in religion of Coca Cola.


ProfessorOhk
: In aural form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeqthlUY5UY&noredirect=1
Link
 
2012-12-04 08:53:25 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Coco LaFemme:
Now, when a 40-year-old still believes that a jolly fat man who lives at the top of planet will squeeze himself through their chimney once a year.....then we have a problem.


.... Or that a zombie-deity can hear your unspoken thoughts to grant you wishes; and just to be on the safe you ceremoniously eat his flesh and drink his blood. And you can't forget that of the 6,000 years Earth has been there was once a point where two of EVERY animal on Earth was put on a boat to survive for over a month with a man and his family who later repopulated the planet.

It's a good thing that no one in power in the United States would believe such outlandish fairy tales.


I'm an atheist dear, you're preaching to the choir......to borrow the expression.
 
2012-12-04 08:53:58 PM
dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-12-04 08:54:02 PM
However, Krampus is real.
 
2012-12-04 08:54:44 PM

haywatchthis: Indubitably: haywatchthis: it's refreashing to hear people tell the truth for a change
to bad tommorrow alot of people will be saying, bless you, after someone sneezes and you will reply, thank you, for no farking reason

So what?

It's a sign of respect for each other, a "watching out for" when we might not mean it even in the moment but overall we'd get it on for, no dashes, should it be a crime to show respect to each other? No. To respect

so it would be more appropiate when we fart


Probably.
 
2012-12-04 08:54:52 PM

flynn80: Should have told the whole truth about it being a way to pass on psychedelic mushroom rituals by pagans when their celebration of the winter equinox was usurped by the Christians.


Whoa! 

rlv.zcache.com
 
2012-12-04 08:54:53 PM

sendtodave: Question for parents: Is it OK when your child lies to you? Makes up unbelievable falsehoods to justify their actions?


"Hey Dad! SURPRISE! I am planning you a surprise birthday party. It will be next Tuesday at 5:00PM in the park. old friends you havent see in years will be there and i got you that painting you have been searching for all these lomg years. See ya then."

*phone click*

'I wish I had thought that damn kid about lying'
 
2012-12-04 08:55:03 PM
I've said it before on this site, and it's been proven in this thread. There are some truly miserable people that post on this site.
 
2012-12-04 08:55:51 PM
Seventeen days.
 
2012-12-04 08:57:06 PM
Not that big of a deal in the whole big world wide picture of lifes problems.
 
2012-12-04 08:57:31 PM
I take great delight in shredding the happy facade put into place on most topics in the United States. It's also fun to impart your own fantasies on the minds of the gullible. Now, you may call me a sociopath, but at least I'm not exploiting those topics to gain power or money from it.

It often doesn't work on the intelligent though. I can only assume because it takes a very healthy dose of skepticism to actually become intelligent. For instance a dumb person may look at a math problem and go, "That looks okay. Good enough." -- Where in intelligent person may think, "You know. It seems correct but I'm not completely convinced. Let me see what other solutions I can get."
 
2012-12-04 08:57:44 PM

MDGeist: Not that big of a deal in the whole big world wide picture of lifes problems.


Apostrophe absent.
 
2012-12-04 08:57:53 PM

maxalt: Maybe that teacher should find out what it is like to come down the chimney.


Octomom thread?
 
2012-12-04 08:58:41 PM

possumchild: I'm not sure why it is any teacher's responsibility/ethical mandate to perpetuate a myth foisted upon their little snowflakes by their parents. What other fibs is the teacher supposed to tell, that thunder is God shouting? Or that Fido is 'in doggie heaven'? or stepping on a crack will break mommy's back? How's anyone supposed to keep up with all that?


Where does Santa, religion or anything you consider a myth fit into the lesson plan for five year olds? Let this lower level government employee stick to what she is supposed to be teaching. She and her ilk need to realize their mere education degrees do not make them some all knowing, all powerful social engineers whose job is to contradict the desire of parents in these matters.

Despite the almost $1 trillion combined this country spends on education these government hacks can barely produce a literate product from our school systems. Maybe these union thugs should concentrate on actually doing a better job than they are instead ruining childhoods and trying to usurp parental authority. After all it is the parents who are paying the bills.
 
2012-12-04 08:59:04 PM

dabbletech: maxalt: Maybe that teacher should find out what it is like to come down the chimney.

Octomom thread?

To entomb

 
2012-12-04 08:59:29 PM

soupbone: I've said it before on this site, and it's been proven in this thread. There are some truly miserable people that post on this site.


Are we talking about the people that encourage logic, morality, and critical thinking?

Or the ones that are so disappointed with reality that they espouse fantasies?
 
2012-12-04 09:00:33 PM

hasty ambush: possumchild: I'm not sure why it is any teacher's responsibility/ethical mandate to perpetuate a myth foisted upon their little snowflakes by their parents. What other fibs is the teacher supposed to tell, that thunder is God shouting? Or that Fido is 'in doggie heaven'? or stepping on a crack will break mommy's back? How's anyone supposed to keep up with all that?

Where does Santa, religion or anything you consider a myth fit into the lesson plan for five year olds? Let this lower level government employee stick to what she is supposed to be teaching. She and her ilk need to realize their mere education degrees do not make them some all knowing, all powerful social engineers whose job is to contradict the desire of parents in these matters.

Despite the almost $1 trillion combined this country spends on education these government hacks can barely produce a literate product from our school systems. Maybe these union thugs should concentrate on actually doing a better job than they are instead ruining childhoods and trying to usurp parental authority. After all it is the parents who are paying the bills.


Seriously?

Just stop.

Try paying teachers as much as you pay your bankers/fund-managers/douchebags.
 
2012-12-04 09:00:42 PM

mekki: Santa Claus is a chance for kids to play with their imagination. To imagine how one guy delivers presents all around the world in one night. No one is going to die because a tiny tot believes in a guy with a magic sled and bottomless sack of gifts. Mind you, these same kids will stop believing in him as they grow older without having any permanent damage for believing in the first place.


Yeah unless your parents are too poor to buy you any presents(no they didn't tell me santa was real), and your classmates assume you didn't get toys because you were bad, and then use that as "justification" for bullying/beating you up for your lunch money.

Many years I recieved nothing for christmas, we were lucky to even have food some years.

but yeah, they may not have damage, but they may cause it.
 
2012-12-04 09:00:44 PM

Blue_Blazer: Oh and the other point I made to the wife and to my dad: why the fark should I allow my kid to think some made-up being gave him all these sweet gifts. I'd much rather he know that he got these presents from Mom and Dad who love him, and that's just what people do this time of year.


I know. and the other day I had to smack my son's face when I caught him playing with Star Wars action figures, pretending like they were talking to each other and having adventures. "THOSE AREN'T REALLY PEOPLE!" I screamed at him. "THEY CAN'T HAVE ADVENTURES, THEY ARE JUST CHUNKS OF CHEAP PLASTIC, STUPID! GO TO YOUR ROOM UNTIL YOU LEARN TO NOT BE RETARDED!"

Me and you are keeping it real for our kidz, amirite? Fist bump.
 
2012-12-04 09:01:04 PM

That Guy...From That Show!: jtown: As a former child, I recall a period of bitter resentment as I discovered lie after lie.

That said, I'm totally cool with like the tooth fairy. Kids know they aren't supposed to start spontaneously bleed and lose body parts so when they're really young an explanation of "how it works" isn't likely to get through.


"How it works" made sense to me as a kid. I understood that baby teeth were supposed to fall out and be replaced with larger teeth. Why else would they be called baby teeth? Tho I did fall for the tooth fairy ruse at first. I figured out pretty quick that mom was the one putting the money under my pillow.
 
2012-12-04 09:02:36 PM
As long as the Internet exists Santa can not
 
2012-12-04 09:02:54 PM

sendtodave: Question for parents: Is it OK when your child lies to you? Makes up unbelievable falsehoods to justify their actions?


If it means I get presents out of the equation, hell yeah.

My kid can lie and say that moon is actually Santa's secret base and the reason why it's so big is because that's where he makes all the presents. And I wouldn't care if I get a Ipad out of it.
 
2012-12-04 09:03:48 PM

Indubitably: hasty ambush: possumchild: I'm not sure why it is any teacher's responsibility/ethical mandate to perpetuate a myth foisted upon their little snowflakes by their parents. What other fibs is the teacher supposed to tell, that thunder is God shouting? Or that Fido is 'in doggie heaven'? or stepping on a crack will break mommy's back? How's anyone supposed to keep up with all that?

Where does Santa, religion or anything you consider a myth fit into the lesson plan for five year olds? Let this lower level government employee stick to what she is supposed to be teaching. She and her ilk need to realize their mere education degrees do not make them some all knowing, all powerful social engineers whose job is to contradict the desire of parents in these matters.

Despite the almost $1 trillion combined this country spends on education these government hacks can barely produce a literate product from our school systems. Maybe these union thugs should concentrate on actually doing a better job than they are instead ruining childhoods and trying to usurp parental authority. After all it is the parents who are paying the bills.

Seriously?

Just stop.

Try paying teachers as much as you pay your bankers/fund-managers/douchebags.


*raises hand*

I'll build you a school that succeeds like an engine: we pour in talented teachers with tools, we fire up our students, and our engine of American human innovation will run. Just watch us.
 
2012-12-04 09:04:24 PM

Delawheredad: I told my kids that it is fun to pretend there is a Santa. That worked out fine. Now our favorite Santa is the one in the movie "Rare Exports." According to my kids that is the Santa they are going to tell their kids about!


Actually that one is probably closer to the real "Santa" then the one we have now.

Real Santa's main job wasn't to give toys to everyone... it was to beat the shiat out of kids who were bad.
 
2012-12-04 09:04:29 PM

GORDON: Blue_Blazer: Oh and the other point I made to the wife and to my dad: why the fark should I allow my kid to think some made-up being gave him all these sweet gifts. I'd much rather he know that he got these presents from Mom and Dad who love him, and that's just what people do this time of year.

I know. and the other day I had to smack my son's face when I caught him playing with Star Wars action figures, pretending like they were talking to each other and having adventures. "THOSE AREN'T REALLY PEOPLE!" I screamed at him. "THEY CAN'T HAVE ADVENTURES, THEY ARE JUST CHUNKS OF CHEAP PLASTIC, STUPID! GO TO YOUR ROOM UNTIL YOU LEARN TO NOT BE RETARDED!"

Me and you are keeping it real for our kidz, amirite? Fist bump.


What you said has nothing to do with what I said. My kid is welcome to have all the fantasies he wants. But I'm not going to tell him "you need to believe in Darth Vader because otherwise he might find your lack of faith disturbing."

But it's good to know you smack your kid around.
 
2012-12-04 09:04:54 PM

timujin: Slesfo: timujin: Slesfo: Even from an Atheist perspective, telling children about Santa is a systematic lie; Telling them about God is merely perpetuating a harmful misconception.

which is why I am having trouble with the people in the article and in this thread who are making the comparison between telling a child Santa doesn't exist and telling one that God doesn't exist. I have stated many times that the reason I call myself an atheist even though I "can't prove a negative" is that for me not believing in a god is like not believing in Santa, which is logically consistent. However, it is people that actually believe in God and that don't believe in Santa (one hopes) that are making the comparison between the two.

Oh, i see what you're talking about. I'm not making the comparison. I'm referencing critics of Christianity who DO make the comparison. I think it's a terribly invalid comparison (an argument for another time), but it's the comparison that Critics use, and it's the comparison that people who leave Christianity often use.

Sorry, I think I was unclear. I didn't mean you were making the comparison, rather just expounding on the point about the two arguments.


So it turns out that I didn't RTFA, and didn't realize that people were criticizing the teacher for telling the kids that santa isn't real by saying that it's like a teacher telling them that God isn't real.

Holy shiat people are stupid.
 
2012-12-04 09:04:59 PM
FTFA: Or as the mom put it on her Facebook page: "Another adult has no right to submit their own beliefs on a group of 5 year olds and their families - about Santa, God, politics or whatever - especially phrased 'your belief is not right.'"

I think the problem here is that the mother still believes in Santa Claus, which is not that surprising, as every year for the last few years she has become Santa Claus at Christmas for her daughter.
 
2012-12-04 09:05:01 PM
You can't spell disillusioned without illusion.
 
2012-12-04 09:05:24 PM
BTW, I see a difference between Santa and God. When my sister and I were little, I don't remember my parents threatening us with no Christmas if we didn't behave, because Santa wouldn't come and leave presents under our tree. I do however, remember them telling us that if we didn't pray every night before going to bed, God would be very angry at us and if God was angry at you, bad things would happen. One night I didn't pray before going to bed, I was maybe 8 or 9 years old, and the next morning, I fell down the stairs and broke my ankle. I was convinced that if I had prayed the night before, I wouldn't have a broken ankle. That kind of shiat psychologically scars a child.

Letting a bunch of kids believe in Santa Claus and flying reindeer and the North Pole and elves and Candy Cane Lane and all this other festive stuff that a) kids grow out of and b) only occurs once a year.....what's the farking problem? I don't have kids, but if some 3-year-old asksme if Santa is real, am I supposed to look at him/her and say, "No, your parents are nothing but filthy liars hell-bent on causing you mental pain and anguish, and nothing is real, life is hell"?
 
2012-12-04 09:06:04 PM

GORDON: Blue_Blazer: Oh and the other point I made to the wife and to my dad: why the fark should I allow my kid to think some made-up being gave him all these sweet gifts. I'd much rather he know that he got these presents from Mom and Dad who love him, and that's just what people do this time of year.

I know. and the other day I had to smack my son's face when I caught him playing with Star Wars action figures, pretending like they were talking to each other and having adventures. "THOSE AREN'T REALLY PEOPLE!" I screamed at him. "THEY CAN'T HAVE ADVENTURES, THEY ARE JUST CHUNKS OF CHEAP PLASTIC, STUPID! GO TO YOUR ROOM UNTIL YOU LEARN TO NOT BE RETARDED!"

Me and you are keeping it real for our kidz, amirite? Fist bump.


The kid already knows they're action figures. Santa is more akin to... to giving your kid a Darth Vader action figure, telling him he's alive but just waiting and if he's not good, it will force choke him in his sleep.
 
2012-12-04 09:07:12 PM

Blue_Blazer: What you said has nothing to do with what I said. My kid is welcome to have all the fantasies he wants. But I'm not going to tell him "you need to believe in Darth Vader because otherwise he might find your lack of faith disturbing."

But it's good to know you smack your kid around.


*shakes tiny black armored fist*
 
2012-12-04 09:07:14 PM

BlaqueKatt: mekki: Santa Claus is a chance for kids to play with their imagination. To imagine how one guy delivers presents all around the world in one night. No one is going to die because a tiny tot believes in a guy with a magic sled and bottomless sack of gifts. Mind you, these same kids will stop believing in him as they grow older without having any permanent damage for believing in the first place.

Yeah unless your parents are too poor to buy you any presents(no they didn't tell me santa was real), and your classmates assume you didn't get toys because you were bad, and then use that as "justification" for bullying/beating you up for your lunch money.

Many years I recieved nothing for christmas, we were lucky to even have food some years.

but yeah, they may not have damage, but they may cause it.


Do you think they would have beat you up if you had a "Santa Isn't Real" seminar at preschool orientation? Kids can be cruel, Santa or no.
 
2012-12-04 09:09:10 PM

ProfessorOhki: Blue_Blazer: What you said has nothing to do with what I said. My kid is welcome to have all the fantasies he wants. But I'm not going to tell him "you need to believe in Darth Vader because otherwise he might find your lack of faith disturbing."

But it's good to know you smack your kid around.

*shakes tiny black armored fist*


It's like telling them that their Darth Vader action figure is their father.
 
2012-12-04 09:10:32 PM

Gunny Highway: BlaqueKatt: mekki: Santa Claus is a chance for kids to play with their imagination. To imagine how one guy delivers presents all around the world in one night. No one is going to die because a tiny tot believes in a guy with a magic sled and bottomless sack of gifts. Mind you, these same kids will stop believing in him as they grow older without having any permanent damage for believing in the first place.

Yeah unless your parents are too poor to buy you any presents(no they didn't tell me santa was real), and your classmates assume you didn't get toys because you were bad, and then use that as "justification" for bullying/beating you up for your lunch money.

Many years I recieved nothing for christmas, we were lucky to even have food some years.

but yeah, they may not have damage, but they may cause it.

Do you think they would have beat you up if you had a "Santa Isn't Real" seminar at preschool orientation? Kids can be cruel, Santa or no.


Oh, well then, might as well lie to the tykes. Rotten little bastards deserve it.
 
2012-12-04 09:10:50 PM

sendtodave: ProfessorOhki: Blue_Blazer: What you said has nothing to do with what I said. My kid is welcome to have all the fantasies he wants. But I'm not going to tell him "you need to believe in Darth Vader because otherwise he might find your lack of faith disturbing."

But it's good to know you smack your kid around.

*shakes tiny black armored fist*

It's like telling them that their Darth Vader action figure is their father.


Um,

Quit talking to your kid about his action figures at all?
 
2012-12-04 09:11:24 PM

ManateeGag: The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies like that.

I'm sure you'd be ok with an athiest teacher telling a christian student that there is no God too, right?


I am OK with this.

I also am OK with asking the kids to ask their partents to provide proof of the existance of any god.
I am also OK with asking the religious people who come to my door to provide any proof what so ever of a supernatural being, any being any proof.

the best any of them have done so far is , "I just have this feeling that there is." basically an emotional need for there to be gods.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-04 09:12:32 PM

Indubitably: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Gunny Highway: The pictures are lies and your niece is a brain washed consumer, you evil fark!

Boy, you don't know the half of it! :)

Please don't use that word to start a sentence ever. Thank you.


Hey boy......

/is it any better when one ends a sentence with it?
//lighten up Francis
 
2012-12-04 09:13:23 PM

gja: Indubitably: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Gunny Highway: The pictures are lies and your niece is a brain washed consumer, you evil fark!

Boy, you don't know the half of it! :)

Please don't use that word to start a sentence ever. Thank you.

Hey boy......

/is it any better when one ends a sentence with it?
//lighten up Francis


History: what is it?
 
2012-12-04 09:13:24 PM
Who is John Galt?
 
2012-12-04 09:13:30 PM

sendtodave: ProfessorOhki: Blue_Blazer: What you said has nothing to do with what I said. My kid is welcome to have all the fantasies he wants. But I'm not going to tell him "you need to believe in Darth Vader because otherwise he might find your lack of faith disturbing."

But it's good to know you smack your kid around.

*shakes tiny black armored fist*

It's like telling them that their Darth Vader action figure is their father.


That's not true! That's impossible!
 
2012-12-04 09:13:50 PM
Johnny, I know you broke Mrs. McKinney's window. It is not all right to lie!

But you lied about Santa Claus.

It is not all right for you to lie. To us. Now go tell Ms. McKinney you are sorry.

But I'm not. I hate her.

Tell her anyway!

Parent logic.
 
2012-12-04 09:14:44 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: I'm okay with teachers not encouraging lies like that.


White lies are what protect you from finding out your Mommy is a hermie
 
2012-12-04 09:14:48 PM
Yea that would suck, but it isn't going to seriously warp your kid. I mean you are going to have to explain to them why we have Santa anyway.

Also, were any of you upset when you realized there was no Santa? Uh probably not. Wow, a lie with the purpose of having some make believe fun and just pretending? I would be upset if I realized that my parents decided not to celebrate Christmas because it was all make believe anyway (and I'm an athiest).

You think that kids, who will insist that they are Luke Skywalker or something for days to weeks (my sister once demanded to be called "Hockey Nick" for an entire summer) don't understand that we sometimes make things up for fun?
 
2012-12-04 09:14:54 PM

Indubitably: hasty ambush: possumchild: I'm not sure why it is any teacher's responsibility/ethical mandate to perpetuate a myth foisted upon their little snowflakes by their parents. What other fibs is the teacher supposed to tell, that thunder is God shouting? Or that Fido is 'in doggie heaven'? or stepping on a crack will break mommy's back? How's anyone supposed to keep up with all that?

Where does Santa, religion or anything you consider a myth fit into the lesson plan for five year olds? Let this lower level government employee stick to what she is supposed to be teaching. She and her ilk need to realize their mere education degrees do not make them some all knowing, all powerful social engineers whose job is to contradict the desire of parents in these matters.

Despite the almost $1 trillion combined this country spends on education these government hacks can barely produce a literate product from our school systems. Maybe these union thugs should concentrate on actually doing a better job than they are instead ruining childhoods and trying to usurp parental authority. After all it is the parents who are paying the bills.

Seriously?

Just stop.

Try paying teachers as much as you pay your bankers/fund-managers/douchebags.


Teachers need to try earning it first. They want more money prove they deserve it. As it is for the results we get they are grossly overpaid:

OECD

"OECD countries now spend an average of USD 7,343 per student per year between primary and tertiary education, but this masks a broad range of expenditure across countries. Switzerland and the U.S. spend the most, with average annual outlays per student of more than USD 11,000. At the other end of the scale, Mexico and the Slovak Republic spend around USD 2,000 per student per year. The drivers of expenditure per student vary across countries: among the five countries with the highest expenditure per student, Switzerland and the United States are two of the countries with the highest teachers' salaries at secondary level of education whereas Austria, Denmark and Norway are among the countries with the lowest student to teaching staff ratio.


Spending is not necessarily a guarantee of higher quality in terms of education, though: Australia, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Finland, Japan, Korea, the Netherlands and New Zealand all have moderate expenditure on education per student at the primary and lower secondary levels but are among the countries where 15-year-olds perform strongest in key subject areas."
 
2012-12-04 09:15:04 PM

Indubitably: gja: Indubitably: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Gunny Highway: The pictures are lies and your niece is a brain washed consumer, you evil fark!

Boy, you don't know the half of it! :)

Please don't use that word to start a sentence ever. Thank you.

Hey boy......

/is it any better when one ends a sentence with it?
//lighten up Francis

History: what is it?


NVM, you are oblivious, no?

Please don't answer.

Thank you.
 
2012-12-04 09:15:34 PM

sendtodave: soupbone: I've said it before on this site, and it's been proven in this thread. There are some truly miserable people that post on this site.

Are we talking about the people that encourage logic, morality, and critical thinking?

Or the ones that are so disappointed with reality that they espouse fantasies?


Because it's impossible to encourage logic and critical thinking while also encouraging the imagination and creativity of children right? We are talking about young children remember? Fark is full of people that need to mind their own farking business, this story included.
 
2012-12-04 09:15:40 PM
Last week I convinced my 5 year old daughter and 3 year old son that Krampus is real.
It's pretty damn awesome.
 
2012-12-04 09:16:02 PM

hasty ambush: Indubitably: hasty ambush: possumchild: I'm not sure why it is any teacher's responsibility/ethical mandate to perpetuate a myth foisted upon their little snowflakes by their parents. What other fibs is the teacher supposed to tell, that thunder is God shouting? Or that Fido is 'in doggie heaven'? or stepping on a crack will break mommy's back? How's anyone supposed to keep up with all that?

Where does Santa, religion or anything you consider a myth fit into the lesson plan for five year olds? Let this lower level government employee stick to what she is supposed to be teaching. She and her ilk need to realize their mere education degrees do not make them some all knowing, all powerful social engineers whose job is to contradict the desire of parents in these matters.

Despite the almost $1 trillion combined this country spends on education these government hacks can barely produce a literate product from our school systems. Maybe these union thugs should concentrate on actually doing a better job than they are instead ruining childhoods and trying to usurp parental authority. After all it is the parents who are paying the bills.

Seriously?

Just stop.

Try paying teachers as much as you pay your bankers/fund-managers/douchebags.

Teachers need to try earning it first. They want more money prove they deserve it. As it is for the results we get they are grossly overpaid:

OECD

"OECD countries now spend an average of USD 7,343 per student per year between primary and tertiary education, but this masks a broad range of expenditure across countries. Switzerland and the U.S. spend the most, with average annual outlays per student of more than USD 11,000. At the other end of the scale, Mexico and the Slovak Republic spend around USD 2,000 per student per year. The drivers of expenditure per student vary across countries: among the five countries with the highest expenditure per student, Switzerland and the United States are two of the countries with the highe ...


You demonstrate ignorance according to a rule...
 
2012-12-04 09:16:02 PM

jtown: That Guy...From That Show!: jtown: As a former child, I recall a period of bitter resentment as I discovered lie after lie.

That said, I'm totally cool with like the tooth fairy. Kids know they aren't supposed to start spontaneously bleed and lose body parts so when they're really young an explanation of "how it works" isn't likely to get through.

"How it works" made sense to me as a kid. I understood that baby teeth were supposed to fall out and be replaced with larger teeth. Why else would they be called baby teeth? Tho I did fall for the tooth fairy ruse at first. I figured out pretty quick that mom was the one putting the money under my pillow.


Well, sure, and it depends on the experience of a child as well. I've only talked about the tooth fairy when it was obvious the child didn't have knowledge otherwise...for example, a kid with a bunch of older brothers and sisters knows the routine and it's no biggie. Of course, they'd love the cash anyway!
 
2012-12-04 09:16:47 PM

Lernaeus: Coco LaFemme: However, 5-year-olds are supposed to believe in supernatural/mythical beings. They're kids.

Which is totally why you should treat them like idiots, instead of teaching them the basic skills they need to become independent human beings.

There's nothing wrong with stories and make-believe, but acting like it's real is stupid and insulting to children.


At 5 years old, I really don't think teaching them skills they need to become independent human beings would be paramount. By your account, why drive them 10 miles out of town with only a sleeping bag and canteen and kick them out of the car? That should teach them independence by God! The imagination of a 5 year old is priceless! Why don't you just stomp on on a Faberge Egg?
 
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