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(The Tennessean)   There are two types of coaches in college football - those who would rank Notre Dame #1, and those who have been paying attention throughout the season   (tennessean.com) divider line 169
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2012-12-04 06:59:59 PM
If the coaches were actually paying attention, they wouldn't rank them in the top 25 at all. I mean, they're a nice story as a BCS-buster. But they can't honestly compete with Alabama.
 
2012-12-04 07:00:22 PM

PowerSlacker: torr5962: Notre Dame is +10 in a friggin championship game. This isnt a prediction of the final score-this is the market saying, if you want Alabama, you are going to pay for it.
This, above all else, shows just how inferior a team ND is compared to Bama.

Now it is only one game, and anything can happen, but the fact that this line has increased from 7.5 to 10 tells me alot.

Of course if you disagree, and you see ND as a very undervalued commodity, you're getting a bargain. Good luck.

Vegas casinos don't just build themselves. The public is wrong as usual.


but it's not vegas vs public. it's 50% of the public vs 50% of the public. vegas doesn't give a fark. it just wants half the action on each side of the line and they'll get rich off the vig. it's a great business model when it works. sure there's some sharps' money involved, but with two such public teams i'm guessing the line is being moved by public money.
 
2012-12-04 07:03:47 PM
He's not wrong.
 
2012-12-04 07:05:00 PM
Mark my words - Alabama's setting the NCAA single-game scoring record against ND in the title game.
 
2012-12-04 07:05:36 PM

ModernPrimitive01: My top 10 just for the hell of it:

1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Georgia
4. Oregon
5. Texas A&M
6. Florida
7. LSU
8. Kansas State
9. Stanford
10.Florida State

(South Carolina would have been 10 but with the injury to Lattimore they dropped)


Alright, this is very late but how do you have Texas Ass To Mouth ahead of Florida? Florida beat them...in front of the 12th man.
 
2012-12-04 07:20:33 PM

ducklord666: For now, I think everyone should just thank the football gods that Stanford lost that Notre Dame game. Flip that game, and we've got 6 11-1 teams, and a BCS fusterclark of epic proportions.


Are you kidding me? I was praying for that.

Fark the football gods. They have denied me my dream!
 
2012-12-04 07:23:36 PM

PluckYew: ModernPrimitive01: My top 10 just for the hell of it:

1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Georgia
4. Oregon
5. Texas A&M
6. Florida
7. LSU
8. Kansas State
9. Stanford
10.Florida State

(South Carolina would have been 10 but with the injury to Lattimore they dropped)

Alright, this is very late but how do you have Texas Ass To Mouth ahead of Florida? Florida beat them...in front of the 12th man.


Ass To Mouth. Heh.
 
2012-12-04 07:27:30 PM
 
2012-12-04 07:34:00 PM

Doogled: Stanford ends the year winning 4 straight games against ranked opponents (including @Oregon) and still isn't in your top 10, Mr. Vanderbilt coach?! Yeah, OK.


You mean the Stanford team that LOST to UW?  You can blame the ND loss on officiating but what is your excuse for that one?
 
2012-12-04 07:38:06 PM

PluckYew: Alright, this is very late but how do you have Texas Ass To Mouth ahead of Florida? Florida beat them...in front of the 12th man.


A very valid point, and I don't necessarily care, but that was the very first game of the season, and I think it's fair to say that Texas A&M was one of the most improved teams of this season.

That's the kind of thing you're going to get until they actually settle it on the field with several of the top teams involved.

Just for fun, someone should go back and tell us what teams, say, the past dozen Super Bowls would have likely featured if the NFL ran on an antiquated polling system as college football does.
 
2012-12-04 07:38:42 PM

Rent Party: ducklord666: For now, I think everyone should just thank the football gods that Stanford lost that Notre Dame game. Flip that game, and we've got 6 11-1 teams, and a BCS fusterclark of epic proportions.

Are you kidding me? I was praying for that.

Fark the football gods. They have denied me my dream!


Eh, that probably wouldn't have been too hard to figure out.

Oregon and Notre Dame are both out since they lost to Stanford.
K-State is out because Baylor.

That leaves Bama as the clear #1 against either Florida or Stanford...so basically a repeat of last year except that Bama and Florida wouldn't have played already.

Now, choosing a fourth team between Oregon, Notre Dame, and K-State would be something else.
 
2012-12-04 07:39:38 PM
Yes SEC, you are the absolute best conference in the history of college football.

Vanderbilt would win every single game in the Big 12. Kentucky would mercy everyone in the Pac 12 before the end of the first half. Auburn would score 100 points vs every big 10 school.

Truth is SEC you schedule cup cakes every year early. With 10 teams unbeaten you have a massive surge into the top 25 and many in the top 10. With 4-5 teams that run into the end of the season with 1 or 2 loses your conference remains in the top 10.

As far as bowl games, two of the national championships are played in your area. Phoenix and Pasadena requires major travel for both teams outside of the Pac 12. Only in 2010 did an SEC team not win on a neutral or home field. The daily blow jobs you get from the major markets gets really old.

Everyone knows that you cheat in recruiting. I am well aware that this is butt hurt but you have to acknowledge that is is suspicious that the best paid coaches also get the best recruiting classes. When the hammer comes down on your teams it will be painful. Congrats so far, I cannot wait to watch your titles begin to be stripped.
 
2012-12-04 07:40:31 PM

UNC_Samurai: Meanwhile, LSU is self-reporting a secondary violation...for their media guide being two pages too long.


It was 30 pages too long but Tyrone Mathieu smoked 28 of them.

/LSU fan
 
2012-12-04 07:42:34 PM

PluckYew: Doogled: Stanford ends the year winning 4 straight games against ranked opponents (including @Oregon) and still isn't in your top 10, Mr. Vanderbilt coach?! Yeah, OK.

You mean the Stanford team that LOST to UW?  You can blame the ND loss on officiating but what is your excuse for that one?


That the Huskies are an up and down team that tends to play to the level of it's competition?
 
2012-12-04 07:46:04 PM

UNC_Samurai: Meanwhile, LSU is self-reporting a secondary violation...for their media guide being two pages too long.


On the one hand, that's kinda ridiculous for that to be a violation.

On the other hand, you don't need 210 f*cking pages for a media guide.
 
2012-12-04 07:46:14 PM

great_tigers: Yes SEC, you are the absolute best conference in the history of college football.

Vanderbilt would win every single game in the Big 12. Kentucky would mercy everyone in the Pac 12 before the end of the first half. Auburn would score 100 points vs every big 10 school.

Truth is SEC you schedule cup cakes every year early. With 10 teams unbeaten you have a massive surge into the top 25 and many in the top 10. With 4-5 teams that run into the end of the season with 1 or 2 loses your conference remains in the top 10.

As far as bowl games, two of the national championships are played in your area. Phoenix and Pasadena requires major travel for both teams outside of the Pac 12. Only in 2010 did an SEC team not win on a neutral or home field. The daily blow jobs you get from the major markets gets really old.

Everyone knows that you cheat in recruiting. I am well aware that this is butt hurt but you have to acknowledge that is is suspicious that the best paid coaches also get the best recruiting classes. When the hammer comes down on your teams it will be painful. Congrats so far, I cannot wait to watch your titles begin to be stripped.


You sound bitter.
 
2012-12-04 07:53:41 PM

TheDumbBlonde: great_tigers: Yes SEC, you are the absolute best conference in the history of college football.

Vanderbilt would win every single game in the Big 12. Kentucky would mercy everyone in the Pac 12 before the end of the first half. Auburn would score 100 points vs every big 10 school.

Truth is SEC you schedule cup cakes every year early. With 10 teams unbeaten you have a massive surge into the top 25 and many in the top 10. With 4-5 teams that run into the end of the season with 1 or 2 loses your conference remains in the top 10.

As far as bowl games, two of the national championships are played in your area. Phoenix and Pasadena requires major travel for both teams outside of the Pac 12. Only in 2010 did an SEC team not win on a neutral or home field. The daily blow jobs you get from the major markets gets really old.

Everyone knows that you cheat in recruiting. I am well aware that this is butt hurt but you have to acknowledge that is is suspicious that the best paid coaches also get the best recruiting classes. When the hammer comes down on your teams it will be painful. Congrats so far, I cannot wait to watch your titles begin to be stripped.

You sound bitter.


Also...not one of the BCS venues are SEC "home fields" and I'll suggest both Phoenix and Pasadena require "major travel" outside the SEC as well. As far as NOLA and Miami are concerned...It's not our fault you live in an ice bound hell-hole. How many bowl games take place in Detroit?
 
2012-12-04 07:54:26 PM

Misplaced yat: oh_please: If Nick Saban has a month to prepare for your team, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME.

Only having 3 1/2 weeks to prepare for Utah must have been the problem, then.


Actually, that was a cornerstone...the Tide went in with a "we don't give a fark" attitude, and got EMBARASSED. After that, two NCs in 3 years, and looking at a third.
 
2012-12-04 07:58:37 PM

IAmRight: UNC_Samurai: Meanwhile, LSU is self-reporting a secondary violation...for their media guide being two pages too long.

On the one hand, that's kinda ridiculous for that to be a violation.

On the other hand, you don't need 210 f*cking pages for a media guide.


The NCAA's established punishment is you have to cut your guide two pages short for every page that violates, so next year's guide can only be 204 pages.

And what I find hilarious is apparently the size limit is equally the fault of SEC football and ACC basketball.
 
2012-12-04 08:01:58 PM
Am I the only one who thinks we get waaaay too worked up over trying to figure out who is #1?
 
2012-12-04 08:01:59 PM

great_tigers: Truth is SEC you schedule cup cakes every year early. With 10 teams unbeaten you have a massive surge into the top 25 and many in the top 10. With 4-5 teams that run into the end of the season with 1 or 2 loses your conference remains in the top 10.


Really? Did you actually look at this year's schedule?

Alabama - Michigan, @Arkansas (both rated top 10 going into the season)
Arkansas - Alabama, Rutgers (Big East Co-Champ)
Auburn - Clemson, LSU
Florida - @TAMU
Georgia - Nobody
Kentucky - @Louisville (Big East Co-Champ), @Florida
LSU - Washington (that one's iffy)
Ole Miss - Texas
MS State - Nobody
Mizzou - Georgia, @USCe
USCe - Nobody
Tennessee - Florida
TAMU - Florida
Vandy - USCe, @Georgia

So 11 of the 14 teams have at least one good game within the first four weeks of the season and 6 of them have at least two. Compare that to the epic struggle of the Big XII, whose marquee early game was...?

Kansas State @ Oklahoma

That's it. That's the only game the Big XII played in the first four weeks in which the opposing team finished better than 7-5.
 
2012-12-04 08:04:42 PM

Rent Party: PluckYew: Doogled: Stanford ends the year winning 4 straight games against ranked opponents (including @Oregon) and still isn't in your top 10, Mr. Vanderbilt coach?! Yeah, OK.

You mean the Stanford team that LOST to UW?  You can blame the ND loss on officiating but what is your excuse for that one?

That the Huskies are an up and down team that tends to play to the level of it's competition?


Speaking as a fan of a WSU team that went 2-9 up until a victorious Apple Cup against those same Huskies, I can at least agree with this statement.
 
2012-12-04 08:08:34 PM

great_tigers: Everyone knows that you cheat in recruiting. I am well aware that this is butt hurt but you have to acknowledge that is is suspicious that the best paid coaches also get the best recruiting classes. When the hammer comes down on your teams it will be painful. Congrats so far, I cannot wait to watch your titles begin to be stripped.



That's not butt hurt, that's a ruptured vagina.
 
2012-12-04 08:13:21 PM

rugman11: great_tigers: Truth is SEC you schedule cup cakes every year early. With 10 teams unbeaten you have a massive surge into the top 25 and many in the top 10. With 4-5 teams that run into the end of the season with 1 or 2 loses your conference remains in the top 10.

Really? Did you actually look at this year's schedule?

Alabama -
Arkansas - Rutgers (Big East Co-Champ)
Auburn -
Florida -
Georgia - Nobody
Kentucky - @Louisville (Big East Co-Champ),
LSU - Washington (that one's iffy)
Ole Miss - Texas
MS State - Nobody
Mizzou -
USCe - Nobody
Tennessee -
TAMU -
Vandy -

So 11 of the 14 teams have at least one good game within the first four weeks of the season and 6 of them have at least two. Compare that to the epic struggle of the Big XII, whose marquee early game was...?

.


When you take out the games against other SEC teams and an extremely overrated Michigan team, I am saying that as a huge Michigan fan.

Rutgers beat Arkansas, Kentucky got destroyed by Louisville, Texas MURDERED Ole Miss. Being the champion of the Big East is nothing to boast about. Look what West Virginia did this year in the Big 12.

So your entire wins of value are Alabama over Michigan and LSU over Washington. Two just outside of the top 25 teams. Everything else was in conference (which is neutral) cupcakes or losses.
 
2012-12-04 08:17:42 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Rent Party: PluckYew: Doogled: Stanford ends the year winning 4 straight games against ranked opponents (including @Oregon) and still isn't in your top 10, Mr. Vanderbilt coach?! Yeah, OK.

You mean the Stanford team that LOST to UW?  You can blame the ND loss on officiating but what is your excuse for that one?

That the Huskies are an up and down team that tends to play to the level of it's competition?

Speaking as a fan of a WSU team that went 2-9 up until a victorious Apple Cup against those same Huskies, I can at least agree with this statement.


Speaking as a UW Husky fan, I can at least say FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

/ Farking Apple Cup's ass...
 
2012-12-04 08:19:43 PM
Name SEC's best non conference win.
 
2012-12-04 08:23:42 PM

great_tigers: Name SEC's best non conference win.


Florida over FSU and GA over Tech.
 
2012-12-04 08:24:09 PM

Pincy: Am I the only one who thinks we get waaaay too worked up over trying to figure out who is #1?


all i know is, whenever somebody mentions the SEC everybody gets butthurt

it's like dropping "PC" in a video game console thread, you won't escape alive
 
2012-12-04 08:24:54 PM

great_tigers: Name SEC's best non conference win.


Alabama over Notre Dame, obviously.
 
2012-12-04 08:30:12 PM

great_tigers: Name SEC's best non conference win.


Florida over Florida State. Name any conference with a better such win. Oh wait, you can't, since the only team ranked higher than Florida State in the final BCS standings with a non-conference loss is Oklahoma, who lost to Notre Dame. The next best non-conference wins are Iowa over Northern Illinois and UCLA over Nebraska.
 
2012-12-04 08:39:37 PM

KiwDaWabbit: great_tigers: Name SEC's best non conference win.

Alabama over Notre Dame, obviously.


Obviously. 'Bama is currently favored by 8 to 9.
 
2012-12-04 08:42:33 PM

great_tigers: .

When you take out the games against other SEC teams and an extremely overrated Michigan team, I am saying that as a huge Michigan fan.

Rutgers beat Arkansas, Kentucky got destroyed by Louisville, Texas MURDERED Ole Miss. Being the champion of the Big East is nothing to boast about. Look what West Virginia did this year in the Big 12.

So your entire wins of value are Alabama over Michigan and LSU over Washington. Two just outside of the top 25 teams. Everything else was in conference (which is neutral) cupcakes or losses.


But that's not what you argued. You said that the SEC piles up undefeated teams by scheduling cupcakes at the beginning of the year in order to manipulate the rankings. By scheduling conference games in the first several weeks, the SEC specifically pits its teams against each other, thus causing early season losses that they wouldn't normally have otherwise. TAMU, Mizzou, and Tennessee all would have been undefeated going into week five had they not been forced to play Florida, USCe, and Georgia in the first four weeks. Compare that to the Big XII, which had 8 out of 10 teams undefeated after four weeks, none of whom had played a better team than Arizona or Miami. They were the ones "manipulating" the early season rankings by beating up on cupcakes.

And you can see that in the rankings. In the Week Five AP Poll, the SEC had six teams in the poll. Five of those teams would end up winning 10+ games (the other was Mississippi State and TAMU was left out). On the other hand, of the five Big XII teams in the AP poll, two (WVU and TCU) would end up 7-5 while Texas would end up 8-4.
 
2012-12-04 08:46:46 PM
 
2012-12-04 09:04:03 PM

jmadisonbiii: KiwDaWabbit: great_tigers: Name SEC's best non conference win.

Alabama over Notre Dame, obviously.

Obviously. 'Bama is currently favored by 8 to 9.


Bama's not favored by enough. The line should be like 60.
 
2012-12-04 10:23:07 PM
He's just like a Vandy fan....jumping on the bandwagon for those teams above his own school.
 
2012-12-04 10:37:54 PM

great_tigers: Yes SEC, you are the absolute best conference in the history of college football.


Nice troll but you did it too late
 
2012-12-04 10:54:00 PM

ModernPrimitive01: mitchcumstein1: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.

funny how there isn't any SEC schools on your list


Because SEC teams play a crappy OOC schedule and won't play anyone aside from D2/FCS.
 
2012-12-04 10:58:42 PM

yeegrek: Because SEC teams play a crappy OOC schedule and won't play anyone aside from D2/FCS.


SEC Teams will play big name teams from other conferences. Hell, Alabama played Michigan. Notre Dame, however, wont play big name teams and will face weak teams like Michigan.
 
2012-12-04 11:01:45 PM
That's not how it works, retard... I don't care if you are "comfortable" with it or not.

I thought people at Vandy were supposed to be smart...
 
2012-12-04 11:10:37 PM

Kuta: Conference expansion is all about having more homer votes go your waywider geographical area and capturing major markets for TV viewing.

FTFY


A Fark Handle: Tarl3k: *yawn* Let me know when there is at least an 8 team playoff for the NCAA Div I football championship...

large playoffs are farking tarded, only exist to make money, and allow lesser respected teams to win titles due to good luck/fortune in a tiny sample sizeoutplaying the competition in real games rathers than polls.

FTFY

Personally, I want to see a 16 team playoff. 8-10 AQ teams (best conference winners based on record or ranking if you don't take all conference winners) and 6-8 at large. The 4-team playoff is going to be just as bad as the 2-team BCS championship. An 8-team playoff would be dominated completely by 4 conferences (SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12). A 16-team playoff gives room for conference champs and at-large teams. But it won't happen until someone comes up with a decent proposal for turning existing bowl games into a playoff system. It would be great to watch bowl games and think that they mean something other than which team cared more, partied less, got into less trouble, and made it back before curfew the night before the game.
 
2012-12-04 11:12:07 PM

Aar1012: yeegrek: Because SEC teams play a crappy OOC schedule and won't play anyone aside from D2/FCS.

SEC Teams will play big name teams from other conferences. Hell, Alabama played Michigan. Notre Dame, however, wont play big name teams and will face weak teams like Michigan.


Stanford and Oklahoma aren't big name?
 
2012-12-04 11:13:17 PM

Pockafrusta: I thought people at Vandy were supposed to be smart...


a) just because mommy and daddy have money doesn't make folks at vandy smart
b) he's the football coach, he only needs to be football smart.
c) only idiots that thing that 12 binary outcomes are the only metric that matter would be solely slaves to won/loss record

/won/loss record offer doesn't apply to non-bcs or non-domer schools
 
2012-12-04 11:14:50 PM

PluckYew: ModernPrimitive01: My top 10 just for the hell of it:

1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Georgia
4. Oregon
5. Texas A&M
6. Florida
7. LSU
8. Kansas State
9. Stanford
10.Florida State

(South Carolina would have been 10 but with the injury to Lattimore they dropped)

Alright, this is very late but how do you have Texas Ass To Mouth ahead of Florida? Florida beat them...in front of the 12th man.


How the Fark have I never heard of that Aggie insult. That's just greatness right there
 
2012-12-04 11:18:58 PM

BoxOfBees: A Fark Handle: Tarl3k: *yawn* Let me know when there is at least an 8 team playoff for the NCAA Div I football championship...

large playoffs are farking tarded, only exist to make money, and allow lesser respected teams to win titles due to good luck/fortune in a tiny sample sizeoutplaying the competition in real games rathers than polls. FTFY

Personally, I want to see a 16 team playoff. 8-10 AQ teams (best conference winners based on record or ranking if you don't take all conference winners) and 6-8 at large. The 4-team playoff is going to be just as bad as the 2-team BCS championship. An 8-team playoff would be dominated completely by 4 conferences (SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12). A 16-team playoff gives room for conference champs and at-large teams. But it won't happen until someone comes up with a decent proposal for turning existing bowl games into a playoff system. It would be great to watch bowl games and think that they mean something other than which team cared more, partied less, got into less trouble, and made it back before curfew the night before the game.


no, a playoff allow luck/fortune to have more of an influence in a tiny sample size. next you'll tell me there's no luck in sports, nothing is random, etc. turns out randomness is real. 16 teams is way too farking big. just because the professional sports in american are full on money whores doesn't mean college football has to be more of money whore than it is.

/also, if you're going to a playoff please tell the worthless money whore bowl games to go fark themselves.
 
2012-12-04 11:54:28 PM

yeegrek: Aar1012: yeegrek: Because SEC teams play a crappy OOC schedule and won't play anyone aside from D2/FCS.

SEC Teams will play big name teams from other conferences. Hell, Alabama played Michigan. Notre Dame, however, wont play big name teams and will face weak teams like Michigan.

Stanford and Oklahoma aren't big name?


WOOSH!
 
2012-12-05 12:47:18 AM

BoxOfBees: Kuta: Conference expansion is all about having more homer votes go your waywider geographical area and capturing major markets for TV viewing.
FTFY


A Fark Handle: Tarl3k: *yawn* Let me know when there is at least an 8 team playoff for the NCAA Div I football championship...

large playoffs are farking tarded, only exist to make money, and allow lesser respected teams to win titles due to good luck/fortune in a tiny sample sizeoutplaying the competition in real games rathers than polls. FTFY

Personally, I want to see a 16 team playoff. 8-10 AQ teams (best conference winners based on record or ranking if you don't take all conference winners) and 6-8 at large. The 4-team playoff is going to be just as bad as the 2-team BCS championship. An 8-team playoff would be dominated completely by 4 conferences (SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12). A 16-team playoff gives room for conference champs and at-large teams. But it won't happen until someone comes up with a decent proposal for turning existing bowl games into a playoff system. It would be great to watch bowl games and think that they mean something other than which team cared more, partied less, got into less trouble, and made it back before curfew the night before the game.


Have a single 8-team tournament for the national championship (or even 16 if you like), but also hold other 4-team NITs. Oh, and eligibility starts with 8 wins over Div-IA teams.
 
2012-12-05 01:25:19 AM
Are people sill arguing over Notre Dame's schedule? Really? I shouldn't have to keep posting this.

Liquorslingr: For all of you saying Notre Dame didn't play anyone and the SEC would dominate because of the strength of wins, I give you this from Pat Forde:

Best opponent played: Notre Dame hosted Stanford (eighth in Sagarin), Alabama hosted Texas A&M (seventh), Georgia played Florida (fourth) at a neutral site. The Irish and Bulldogs both won close games. The Crimson Tide lost at home. Most impressive of the three: Georgia.

Second-best opponent: Notre Dame visited Oklahoma (ninth). Alabama visited LSU (11th). Georgia visited South Carolina (10th). The Irish won by 17 points, the Tide won by four in the final minute, the Bulldogs lost by four touchdowns. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Third-best opponent: Notre Dame played USC (16th) on the road, never trailed and won by nine. Alabama played Michigan (20th) at a neutral site, never trailed and won by 27. Georgia hosted Vanderbilt (29th) and won by 45. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Fourth-best opponent: Notre Dame played Michigan (20th) at home and won by a touchdown. Alabama played Mississippi (33rd) on the road and won by 19. Georgia hosted Mississippi (33rd) and won by 27. All three won. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Fifth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted BYU (37th) and won by three. Alabama hosted Mississippi State (36th) and won by 31. Georgia visited Missouri (43rd) and won by 21. All three won. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Sixth-best opponent: Notre Dame visited Michigan State (39th) and won by 17. Alabama visited Missouri (43rd) and won by 32. Georgia visited Tennessee (54th) and won by seven. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Seventh-best opponent: Notre Dame played Miami (52nd) on a neutral field and won by 38. Alabama visited Tennessee (54th) and won by 31. Georgia hosted Georgia Tech (63rd) and won by 32. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eighth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Purdue (62nd) and won by three. Alabama visited Arkansas (65th) and won by 49. Georgia visited Auburn (84th) and won by 38. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Ninth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Pittsburgh (66th) and won by three in triple overtime. Alabama hosted Western Kentucky (82nd) and won by 35. Georgia visited Kentucky (92nd) and won by five. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Tenth-best opponent: Notre Dame played Navy (73rd) at a neutral site and won by 40. Alabama hosted Auburn (84th) and won by 49. Georgia hosted Georgia Southern (99th) and won by 31. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eleventh-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Wake Forest (113th) and won by 38. Alabama hosted Florida Atlantic (127th) and won by 33. Georgia hosted Florida Atlantic (127th) and won by 36. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.
Worst opponent: Notre Dame visited Boston College (121st) and won by 15. Alabama hosted Western Carolina (204th) and won by 49. Georgia hosted Buffalo (135th) and won by 22. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eight times out of 12, the Irish have had the most impressive performance when assessing comparable opponents. Notre Dame is 2-0 against the Sagarin top 10, whereas Alabama is 0-1 and Georgia is 1-1. Notre Dame is 4-0 against the Sagarin top 20, whereas Alabama is 2-1 and Georgia is 1-1.

tl;dr - Notre Dame's strength of victory stacks up with anyone in the country



/No horse in this race
//Tarheel fan
 
2012-12-05 02:34:32 AM

RINO: /No horse in this race
//Tarheel fan


My biggest problem lately is sagarins ratings, how does OU have the 5 hardest SOS in the nation? There is no way their schedule was 5th in the nation, cant wait for them to play atm and get smacked, the big 12 was horrible this year, OU got beat bad by the only decent team they played OOC...........ND.

I still think satan will win but I will be praying for ND to pull off a miracle.
 
2012-12-05 03:56:41 AM

TheDumbBlonde: Also...not one of the BCS venues are SEC "home fields" and I'll suggest both Phoenix and Pasadena require "major travel" outside the SEC as well. As far as NOLA and Miami are concerned...It's not our fault you live in an ice bound hell-hole. How many bowl games take place in Detroit?


It's not our fault you live in a kudzu-choked hellhole either.
 
2012-12-05 08:57:48 AM

RINO: Are people sill arguing over Notre Dame's schedule? Really? I shouldn't have to keep posting this.

Liquorslingr: For all of you saying Notre Dame didn't play anyone and the SEC would dominate because of the strength of wins, I give you this from Pat Forde:

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Let me preface this by saying I think Notre Dame's schedule is perfectly fine and that they are completely deserving of being #1. That said,

I have a lot of quibbles with Forde's list. To me that looks more like Alabama 5, Notre Dame 3, Georgia 1, 3 Draws. Still, I wonder how interested you'd be in rerunning that list today. Spoiler Alert: It comes out 9-3 or 9-2-1 for Bama.
 
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