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(The Tennessean)   There are two types of coaches in college football - those who would rank Notre Dame #1, and those who have been paying attention throughout the season   (tennessean.com) divider line 169
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2012-12-04 02:16:21 PM
Doesn't matter now, does it? We'll find out soon enough.

Or maybe not soon enough. The only person who likes the month-long wait is Nick Saban.
 
2012-12-04 02:18:35 PM
Meh, everyone knows that 1-10 belongs to the SEC and that the SEC should play each other in all of the BCS bowl games.
 
2012-12-04 02:34:46 PM

basemetal: Meh, everyone knows that 1-10 belongs to the SEC and that the SEC should play each other in all of the BCS bowl games.


I commend Vandy's coach, Franklin, for basically making that his ballot. Might as well go all in on the bullsh*t until you're not allowed to anymore. IIRC his ballot was actually SEC SEC SEC Notre Dame Oregon SEC SEC SEC
 
2012-12-04 02:38:56 PM
Oh bullshiat. notre Dame earned the number 1 spot. The only people who truly had a say in it were the teams that kept LOSING to them.
 
2012-12-04 02:58:04 PM
i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.
 
2012-12-04 03:00:58 PM

A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.


You're a farking moron.

Look at Alabama schedule v. ND's and then proceed to nearest glory whole friendly truck stop and get your ass to work, jawbone.
 
2012-12-04 03:03:06 PM
Louisiana Tech and Baylor would like a word with y'all.
 
2012-12-04 03:04:06 PM
My top 10 just for the hell of it:

1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Georgia
4. Oregon
5. Texas A&M
6. Florida
7. LSU
8. Kansas State
9. Stanford
10.Florida State

(South Carolina would have been 10 but with the injury to Lattimore they dropped)
 
2012-12-04 03:05:32 PM

Dogfacedgod: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

You're a farking moron.

Look at Alabama schedule v. ND's and then proceed to nearest glory whole friendly truck stop and get your ass to work, jawbone.


you know florida only has one lost and a tough schedule. and look at margin of victory for bama. and really none of this matters because it will settle in miami unless we all get lucky and global warming washes away both teams in a massive flood.
 
2012-12-04 03:06:03 PM

A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.


I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.
 
2012-12-04 03:07:32 PM
I've said this before, but I don't know why coaches that are on the borderline of making a BCS game or something don't just vote themselves #1.
 
2012-12-04 03:07:33 PM

A Fark Handle: Dogfacedgod: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

You're a farking moron.

Look at Alabama schedule v. ND's and then proceed to nearest glory whole friendly truck stop and get your ass to work, jawbone.

you know florida only has one lost and a tough schedule. and look at margin of victory for bama. and really none of this matters because it will settle in miami unless we all get lucky and global warming washes away both teams in a massive flood.


If only we could somehow make it possible that the entire squad of USC would be there as well, the college football landscape could be rid of its overhyped teams
 
2012-12-04 03:08:22 PM

mitchcumstein1: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.


funny how there isn't any SEC schools on your list
 
2012-12-04 03:09:17 PM
F it, SEC you win. You are the best, by far better than all others. Because of this the rest of the NCAA should stop playing your teams and have our own championship. While you all circle jerk each other and in the end your top two teams can play each other for The World Champions Of Redneck Good Ol Southern Boy Chicken and Waffles Trophy.
 
2012-12-04 03:09:43 PM
I am fine with Notre Dame being ranked anywhere from first to fifth. I farking hate them, but I think I can be unbiased long enough to make a case for all five spots.
 
2012-12-04 03:10:04 PM

IAmRight: basemetal: Meh, everyone knows that 1-10 belongs to the SEC and that the SEC should play each other in all of the BCS bowl games.

I commend Vandy's coach, Franklin, for basically making that his ballot. Might as well go all in on the bullsh*t until you're not allowed to anymore. IIRC his ballot was actually SEC SEC SEC Notre Dame Oregon SEC SEC SEC


My question is what was stopping him from marking all 14 SEC colleges in the top 14. If you're going to be a total bullshiatting homer, might as well go all the way with it.
 
2012-12-04 03:11:20 PM

mitchcumstein1: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.


i never said they were ducking. they just had the bad luck that the teams they scheduled pretty much all had down years. i mean michigan state is garbage. miami used to be somebody. hell byu has been better. same with michigan. and pitt, purdue, and boston college all are usually better then the flaming pile of shiats they were this year. i'm just saying they got lucky with their opponents having down years and lucky on the field. margin of victory is informative. also, i don't know why people are so defensive when folks say maybe the domers aren't the best team in the land. people can have different opinions. we don't all have to agree that being undefeated is the only metric that matters. after all isn't that how byu won a national title? and what about tulane?
 
2012-12-04 03:12:34 PM

ModernPrimitive01: funny how there isn't any SEC schools on your list



Maybe Notre Dame should have run the gauntlet of Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Missouri.
 
2012-12-04 03:12:49 PM
Breaking news: Bret Bielema will be the next coach at Arkansas
 
2012-12-04 03:14:00 PM

A Fark Handle: purdue


You're hurting your own argument with that one considering they needed some South Bend cooking to lock that one down in the last two minutes.
 
2012-12-04 03:14:56 PM

Gosling: My question is what was stopping him from marking all 14 SEC colleges in the top 14. If you're going to be a total bullshiatting homer, might as well go all the way with it.


That's a little too bold to expect of anyone. I also liked that Todd Graham managed to put ASU in the top 25.
 
2012-12-04 03:15:47 PM

coolio mack: Breaking news: Bret Bielema will be the next coach at Arkansas


THANK GOD HE'S GONE!! Enjoy him Arkantucky and his crap tastic time management.
 
2012-12-04 03:16:17 PM

rcf1105: ModernPrimitive01: funny how there isn't any SEC schools on your list

Maybe Notre Dame should have run the gauntlet of Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Missouri.


hey, don't knock georgia's schedule like that.

/and you forgot poland ole miss
 
2012-12-04 03:17:34 PM

mitchcumstein1: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.


I'll give you that, but Wake, Navy, Pitt, etc. are jokes. It's not ND's fault that Michigan State, Michigan and USC are really having down years, and Standford and Oklahoma were good wins. But I think Florida had a much tougher schedule than that.
 
2012-12-04 03:18:52 PM

funk_soul_bubby: A Fark Handle: purdue

You're hurting your own argument with that one considering they needed some South Bend cooking to lock that one down in the last two minutes.


i must not have been clear (it happens), i was arguing that notre dame might not be the best team and pointed out that their schedule was crap (purdue included) and they need a lot of close wins (and calls) to go undefeated.
 
2012-12-04 03:21:07 PM

coolio mack: Breaking news: Bret Bielema will be the next coach at Arkansas


This is bad news... For Purdue.

Seriously, any top coach in the Midwest just had a better opportunity open up.
 
2012-12-04 03:21:56 PM

eagles95: coolio mack: Breaking news: Bret Bielema will be the next coach at Arkansas

THANK GOD HE'S GONE!! Enjoy him Arkantucky and his crap tastic time management.


Last week's story was that they were trying to lure Les Miles away from LSU, so obviously clock management wasn't one of the criteria they were using on their coaching search.

Also, what's up with "Arkantucky"? Isn't "Arkansas" stigma enough on its own?

/Actually like Arkansas and Kentucky. Have had good times both places.
 
2012-12-04 03:23:02 PM

Nabb1: But I think Florida had a much tougher schedule than that.


Goddamn Louisiana-Lafayette choking the game away. That was going to be the funniest moment of the season.
 
2012-12-04 03:23:55 PM

A Fark Handle: rcf1105: ModernPrimitive01: funny how there isn't any SEC schools on your list

Maybe Notre Dame should have run the gauntlet of Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Missouri.

hey, don't knock georgia's schedule like that.

/and you forgot poland ole miss


Burn.
 
2012-12-04 03:25:44 PM

p the boiler: Seriously, any top coach in the Midwest just had a better opportunity open up.


Kinda leads to a dilemma: would you rather be an SEC coach... or would you rather be the non-SEC coach who makes the SEC STFU? Which brings more glory?
 
2012-12-04 03:26:43 PM
There are two types of sports, ones with playoffs and ones that are popularity contests, like figure skating, or college football.
 
2012-12-04 03:26:59 PM
Are those the same coaches who saw #1 Alabama lose to #15 Texas A&M, then dropped Alabama to #5...with Georgia at #4?

The coaches who went on to see Alabama stun powerhouse West Carolina 49-0, while Georgia won 45-14 over Georgia South...then voted Alabama ABOVE Georgia in the following poll?

Was West Carolina that much better than Georgia South that they had no choice but have the Crimson Tide jump over the Bulldogs?

Notre Dame defeated every ranked them they played (#8 Michigan, #10 Michigan St, #17 Stanford & #8 Oklahoma), while Alabama defeated the same Michigan team, #11 Mississippi State, #5 LSU and #3 Georgia...but LOST to #15 Texas A&M.

Alabama would have an advantage over Notre Dame in the rankings with that record...except for that pesky loss AT HOME.
 
2012-12-04 03:28:01 PM
This only proves that the polls are bullshiat to begin with anyways.
 
2012-12-04 03:28:22 PM

A Fark Handle: funk_soul_bubby: A Fark Handle: purdue

You're hurting your own argument with that one considering they needed some South Bend cooking to lock that one down in the last two minutes.

i must not have been clear (it happens), i was arguing that notre dame might not be the best team and pointed out that their schedule was crap (purdue included) and they need a lot of close wins (and calls) to go undefeated.


My bad, I got posts confused. I am sometimes blinded by mind-numbing hatred of Notre Dame.
 
2012-12-04 03:29:25 PM
That's one of the biggest jokes of a ballot I've ever seen. It's almost like the guy ran out of teams near the end and started plugging in random names.

Example: #14, Boise State. Played nobody of consequence (and the only half-good team they played they lost to), lost at home to San Diego State, "signature win" a thrilling 7-6 win over 7-5 BYU. GOT-DAMN THAT IS A TOP 15 SQUAD
#15, Northwestern. Played three good teams and lost to them all. Oh but they beat Vanderbilt, an SEC! team.
#21, Mississippi State. Anybody claiming that this guy is nothing more than an SEC homer has to shut up at this point. MSU's out-of-conference foes included Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama, and the Stevie Wonder School for the Blind. They lost four of their last five games. Oh, did I mention they played in the SEC!
#25, Cincinnati. Apparently a 9-3 record in the worst BCS conference in the land, studded with two wins over FCS teams and a loss to MAC also-ran Toledo gets you in the rankings. I can't even figure this one out....they didn't even beat an SEC team or anything.
 
2012-12-04 03:30:03 PM

p the boiler: This is bad news... For Purdue.

Seriously, any top coach in the Midwest just had a better opportunity open up


Purdue seems to have taken the same tactic Illinois did last year. Try for one established guy, fail, then hire a cheap MAC coach.

I bet Dave Doeren wishes he hadn't taken the NC State job now.
 
2012-12-04 03:30:18 PM
But the Regular Season COUNTS!

Unless the team I want to be #1 isn't, then it's shiatty scheduling, not even quality points (read: Garbage Time piling on), etc. etc. etc.
 
2012-12-04 03:30:26 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Notre Dame defeated every ranked them they played (#8 Michigan, #10 Michigan St, #17 Stanford & #8 Oklahoma), while Alabama defeated the same Michigan team, #11 Mississippi State, #5 LSU and #3 Georgia...but LOST to #15 Texas A&M.


the rankings from when a team played a team are farking worthless particularly if the game is early in the season. saying #10 michigan state or #11 mississippi state is idiotic.
 
2012-12-04 03:32:54 PM
My top ten
1. Boise State
2.Boise State
3.Boise State
4.Boise State
5.Boise State
6.Boise State
7.Boise State
8.Idaho
9.Boise State
10.Boise State

/There may be sarcasm here...
 
2012-12-04 03:33:43 PM
I should also mention--Mississippi State and Cincinnati received ZERO votes between them in the AP poll. ZERO.
 
2012-12-04 03:34:51 PM

A Fark Handle: funk_soul_bubby: A Fark Handle: purdue

You're hurting your own argument with that one considering they needed some South Bend cooking to lock that one down in the last two minutes.

i must not have been clear (it happens), i was arguing that notre dame might not be the best team and pointed out that their schedule was crap (purdue included) and they need a lot of close wins (and calls) to go undefeated.


I think Florida probably had the toughest schedule of the good half of the SEC (didn't look at the bad half; I could look at Kentucky's schedule, but why would I?), but their one loss was to Georgia who probably had the softest schedule of the good SEC teams and lost to the only other two good teams they played. I don't know what that means, really, just that this whole schedule analysis thing can send you spiraling down a deep dark hole.

/A&M had a pretty tough schedule too, but I'll give FL the OOC edge with FSU
//Although A&M did have to play in the boiling cauldron that is Gerald J Ford stadium...
 
2012-12-04 03:35:47 PM

Nabb1: mitchcumstein1: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

I don't even know if it's that meh. I think when you schedule Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC you aren't really ducking anybody.

I'll give you that, but Wake, Navy, Pitt, etc. are jokes. It's not ND's fault that Michigan State, Michigan and USC are really having down years, and Standford and Oklahoma were good wins. But I think Florida had a much tougher schedule than that.


Florida who played Bowling Green, Louisiana Lafayette, and Jacksonville State out of conference?

Not to mention the juggernauts of Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee in conference?

Everybody has tough games and easy games.
 
2012-12-04 03:37:47 PM

GQueue: p the boiler: This is bad news... For Purdue.

Seriously, any top coach in the Midwest just had a better opportunity open up

Purdue seems to have taken the same tactic Illinois did last year. Try for one established guy, fail, then hire a cheap MAC coach.

I bet Dave Doeren wishes he hadn't taken the NC State job now.


Supposedly he's reached out to Barry Alvarez about the Wisconsin opening, but those are just rumors and unconfirmed at this point.
 
2012-12-04 03:39:52 PM
A&M would beat the Irish. Alabama by +10
 
2012-12-04 03:40:10 PM
Looks like it's Bret Bielema going to Arkansas.
 
2012-12-04 03:40:26 PM

A Fark Handle: Dogfacedgod: A Fark Handle: i'm ok with that. notre dame played a meh schedule and need semi-miracles to win some games against some really farking shiatty teams.

You're a farking moron.

Look at Alabama schedule v. ND's and then proceed to nearest glory whole friendly truck stop and get your ass to work, jawbone.

you know florida only has one lost and a tough schedule. and look at margin of victory for bama. and really none of this matters because it will settle in miami unless we all get lucky and global warming washes away both teams in a massive flood.


Hey, Alabama beat Florida Atlantic by 33 points!
 
2012-12-04 03:42:40 PM
*yawn* Let me know when there is at least an 8 team playoff for the NCAA Div I football championship...
 
2012-12-04 03:43:44 PM

mitchcumstein1: Everybody has tough games and easy games.


KU was everybody's easy game and they were also able to make South Dakota State their tough game...
 
2012-12-04 03:46:37 PM

johnnyq: eagles95: coolio mack: Breaking news: Bret Bielema will be the next coach at Arkansas

THANK GOD HE'S GONE!! Enjoy him Arkantucky and his crap tastic time management.

Last week's story was that they were trying to lure Les Miles away from LSU, so obviously clock management wasn't one of the criteria they were using on their coaching search.

Also, what's up with "Arkantucky"? Isn't "Arkansas" stigma enough on its own?

/Actually like Arkansas and Kentucky. Have had good times both places.


I'm sure they are nice. But he will never get to a BCS game in the SEC period.
 
2012-12-04 03:47:43 PM

Gosling: Looks like it's Bret Bielema going to Arkansas.


Thanks for confirming my earlier post. Who are you, ESPN?

/kidding
 
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