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(Huffington Post)   Absurd: Senate GOP blocks UN treaty affirming the rights of disabled people. Insane: Because they said it was a threat to US sovereignty   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 302
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2012-12-04 05:15:18 PM  

Cletus C.: Not trying to start something, but we have the ADA in this country. Did we need to sign on to something saying we'd obey our own laws?


Not only do we have the ADA, the treaty was modeled after it. It was a treaty in which the rest of the world was literally told to act more like America. Which is apparently a threat to America.
 
2012-12-04 05:15:28 PM  

bulldg4life: You'd think retards would want to support this treaty. But, 38 of them hate it.


[slowclap.gif]

bravo, sir, bravo
 
2012-12-04 05:16:11 PM  
Well this is a treaty with the UN, so obviously the UN is going to make all Americans move to reservations and those aren't usually very nice.


So, I'm concerned too.
 
2012-12-04 05:16:19 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: For the record (and the dumpsters of history), here are your 38 elected senators who have a problem with equal treatment for disabled people. Notice what they all have in common with each other???

Nays - 38
Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)


And BOTH of my senators (much as it pains me to have to call them that, but that's what I get for living in Kentucky) voted against it. Not that this is any surprise, they ARE two of the biggest pigfarkers in Congress. But still- way to go, asswipes.

I rarely actually directly contact them about things since it's generally pointless, but this is so pants-on-head stupid that I think it's merited....

The funny thing (to me at least) is that their pledge not to sign anything in a lame duck session was almost certainly because they expected to have won the Senate and didn't want the outgoing losers to ramrod things through. Instead, they lost and are just acting like ever more sore losers.
 
2012-12-04 05:16:24 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Ok, so you don't like the UN or Obama. Fine, we get that. But Republicans, you claim you are the party of Jesus. So ask yourselfs, what would Jesus vote?


He probably would have voted for the ADA which we currently have. What's your point?
 
2012-12-04 05:17:42 PM  

firefly212: John McCain, Bob Dole, and John Kerry all came together to support this bill... but they were voted down by the new Republican Party. If you think you're voting for the GOP of Reagan, or even of the Clinton-era, you're just wrong... these people are through and through whackjobs.


There is something we can do to combat this. 2014 will be coming up quickly enough, so if you want to take back the country, do these things:

1) help disadvantaged people get state IDs and register to vote.

2) volunteer and fundraise for your local Democratic party.

3) Start making a list of every single one of these things for easier access when reaching out to those that don't vote.

4) Start petitioning to make Election Day a national holiday, or press for more absentee voting.

The party didn't end because Obama got reelected. The Republicans have been playing a long game and will drag their heels as long as they have the power to do so. If we work hard, we can certainly rob them of their power to do that and actually get things done in this country instead of being blocked by ignorant, stupid, and paranoid old assholes.
 
2012-12-04 05:17:50 PM  
Well after Santorum (warning: WND derp) came out against the action, you know there was no chance for it.
 
2012-12-04 05:18:13 PM  
i am going to write a form email to the effect that the senator receiving it is a dummy and not fit to be in congress. then i'm going through the no votes and emailing each and every one. it may take a couple of hours and won't do much for anyone but me but i'm doing it anyway.

need to figure out how to cut and paste my personal info into their email submital forms.
 
2012-12-04 05:19:38 PM  
Somebody else used the phrase "predictably retarded" in another thread. I think it's quite a fitting way to describe the GOP as a whole lately. This incident is just further evidence of that fact.
 
2012-12-04 05:19:42 PM  
So apparently the Senator from Idaho

Crapo (R-ID)

Sounds about right
 
2012-12-04 05:19:53 PM  

Mrbogey: Why should the US sign a treaty that provides nothing more than a bureaucracy?


Offers you protections when you travel abroad.
 
2012-12-04 05:20:42 PM  

mrshowrules: Grand_Moff_Joseph: For the record (and the dumpsters of history), here are your 38 elected senators who have a problem with equal treatment for disabled people. Notice what they all have in common with each other???

Here are the Senators who voted against the Franken amendment to protect American women from being raped overseas while working for defense contractors (in 2010):

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)


You clearly never read his bill. It didn't address protecting women from rape.

It requires literacy to realize this.
 
2012-12-04 05:20:58 PM  

Diogenes: Mrbogey: Why should the US sign a treaty that provides nothing more than a bureaucracy?

Offers you protections when you travel abroad.


does brain damage caused by republicanism count under the treaty though?
 
2012-12-04 05:21:27 PM  

degenerate-afro: Well after Santorum (warning: WND derp) came out against the action, you know there was no chance for it.

The most offensive provision is found in Section 7 of the treaty dealing specifically with children with disabilities. That section reads:

"In all actions concerning children with disabilities, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration."


fark you, Rick Santorum, you worthless inhuman piece of festering shiat.
 
2012-12-04 05:21:32 PM  
But in September, 36 Republican senators signed a letter saying they would not vote for any treaty during the lame duck,

This is all you need to know right here.
 
2012-12-04 05:21:58 PM  

Cletus C.: Not trying to start something, but we have the ADA in this country. Did we need to sign on to something saying we'd obey our own laws?


No, if you want to look like a fool in the international community.
 
2012-12-04 05:22:33 PM  
The conservative Heritage Action for America urged senators to vote no against the treaty, saying it would be recorded as a key vote on their scorecard


Scorecards. Pledges. Why does the GOP make a mockery of our political system?
 
2012-12-04 05:23:01 PM  

Pincy: But in September, 36 Republican senators signed a letter saying they would not vote for any treaty


yep, pledges trump treaties every time...
 
2012-12-04 05:24:12 PM  
What the F*CK is wrong with these people.

Since we already have the ADA, why shouldn't we have gone ahead and signed this, which is essentially saying the same thing? Why?

Because the UN proposed it. And these dingalings think that means something. It means that they watch "Conspiracy Theory starring Jesse Ventura" and think it's a documentary.
 
2012-12-04 05:24:44 PM  

Citrate1007: "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -Isaac Asimov

This sums up the current GOP


Yes. And it's also a media criticism...despite the accusation of liberal bias, the media has a fairness bias - it attempts to show "both sides" of every story even when some stories don't have an "other side".
 
2012-12-04 05:26:04 PM  

Diogenes: Mrbogey: Why should the US sign a treaty that provides nothing more than a bureaucracy?

Offers you protections when you travel abroad.


Elaborate on these protections. Non-signatory countries won't honor any protections and signatories would almost universally guarantee them.
 
2012-12-04 05:26:24 PM  

Mrbogey: Why should the US sign a treaty that provides nothing more than a bureaucracy?

To make us feel better? To try and shame other countries that don't care what we think?

All the faux concern for the disabled is duly noted.


Let me put it this way...if the GOP is willing to reject a fairly uncontroversial treaty like not farking over disabled people, what do you think they'll do if something more important came along, like a treaty to address global warming?
 
2012-12-04 05:27:53 PM  
i45.tinypic.com

"Suck it. Who has the last laugh now?"
 
2012-12-04 05:28:05 PM  

jj325: The conservative Heritage Action for America urged senators to vote no against the treaty, saying it would be recorded as a key vote on their scorecard


Scorecards. Pledges. Why does the GOP make a mockery of our political system?


It's all they have got. Otherwise they might have to do actual legislating. Why uphold the Constitution when you can uphold pledges that allow them to do absolutely nothing while pretending they have principles?

Congresspeople are some of the biggest welfare queens in the country.
 
2012-12-04 05:28:31 PM  

Mrbogey: You clearly never read his bill. It didn't address protecting women from rape.

It requires literacy to realize this.


umm:
Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) introduced an amendment to a defense appropriations bill that would prevent the federal government from funding contractors whose employee contracts prevent workers from pursuing allegations of rape against co-workers.

I can see the BS you are trying to pretend. I think you are pretending since it's after the fact that doesn't stop rape but if you believe that then you would think rape laws also have no affect because they are also after the fact.

You are wrong punishing people for crime does protect people.
 
2012-12-04 05:28:41 PM  
Screw em. Why must we pull along the gene pool / evolutionary rejects and even put them up on a pedestal?
 
2012-12-04 05:29:45 PM  
FACT: ALL treaties are a threat to our sovereignty.

/RON PAUL!!!11!
 
2012-12-04 05:31:16 PM  

Mrbogey: Non-signatory countries won't honor any protections and signatories would almost universally guarantee them.


you would think but the country's laws that the treaty was modeled after didn't even sign it.
 
2012-12-04 05:31:38 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: FACT: ALL treaties are a threat to our sovereignty.

/RON PAUL!!!11!


But GOP have no problem with them when they are for trade agreements.
 
2012-12-04 05:31:56 PM  
I had to read the document to understand the context. I was wondering if there was some nasty piece in the treaty that Republicans disagreed with and the media jumped the gun.

Then I remembered it was Republicans this is talking about and read the article. Goddamnit, Repbulcians.
 
2012-12-04 05:33:02 PM  

92myrtle: FWIW...here are the traitors who...


Labeling people who voted against your desires as traitors reveals a lot about you. Specifically why you should be ignored in serious discussions on govt.
 
2012-12-04 05:33:12 PM  

Trivia Jockey: No, if you want to look like a fool in the international community.


I've literally never understood this argument. Who the fark cares what we look like to the international community? If the international community jumped off a bridge would we look like an asshole for not following along? This is the United States, we do what we want, when we want, however we want and life is pretty great living here aside from when you libs want to tax us all to death. Screw the UN and the international community.
 
2012-12-04 05:34:00 PM  

Corvus: Uranus Is Huge!: FACT: ALL treaties are a threat to our sovereignty.

/RON PAUL!!!11!

But GOP have no problem with them when they are for trade agreements.


That's because only a truly enlightened mind can entertain opposing viewpoints simultaneously with cracking under the strain.

Duh.
 
2012-12-04 05:34:56 PM  
Do you think the rest of the world just scratches their head in confusion at the United States? Heck, I'm American and I don't know why we allow what we do half the time. For instance, try explaining the history of the United Nation follow by the current stance of the United States with the United Nation .... and it sounds completely farked.
 
2012-12-04 05:35:39 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Corvus: Uranus Is Huge!: FACT: ALL treaties are a threat to our sovereignty.

/RON PAUL!!!11!

But GOP have no problem with them when they are for trade agreements.

That's because only a truly enlightened mind can entertain opposing viewpoints simultaneously with cracking under the strain.

Duh.


...without...
 
2012-12-04 05:36:24 PM  

Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals: Trivia Jockey: No, if you want to look like a fool in the international community.

I've literally never understood this argument. Who the fark cares what we look like to the international community? If the international community jumped off a bridge would we look like an asshole for not following along? This is the United States, we do what we want, when we want, however we want and life is pretty great living here aside from when you libs want to tax us all to death. Screw the UN and the international community.


If troll: -10/10, way too obvious, and poorly worded
If serious: You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this country.
 
2012-12-04 05:36:28 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: FACT: ALL treaties are a threat to our sovereignty.

/RON PAUL!!!11!


What if Ron Paul found out that the U.N was going to use disabled people to confiscate everyone's guns and make everyone have abortions. Think about it !!!!111!
 
2012-12-04 05:36:31 PM  
Here's my question: If the treaty does nothing and requires no changes in U.S. law, then why sign it? (Or any other non-self-executing treaty, for that matter?)

The laws that other nations want to have should be none of the U.S. government's business, either. If other countries want to give more rights and protections for the disabled, good for them. If they don't, what's it to us?

Laws and treaties are supposed to be more than exercises in narcissism and national self-esteem building.

/used to respect "international law"
//I got over it
 
2012-12-04 05:36:39 PM  
It was,
 
2012-12-04 05:36:44 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Do you think the rest of the world just scratches their head in confusion at the United States?


every country has their conservatives and liberals so hopefully they just look at it like that...
 
2012-12-04 05:37:13 PM  

thomps: trivial use of my dark powers: If he'd managed

Stupid fat thumbs

your thumbs sound like quite the disability. as fark's UN representative, it is my duty to take away your US citizenry and teach you french.


Mais non!
 
2012-12-04 05:39:06 PM  

Mrbogey: Labeling people who voted against your desires as traitors reveals a lot about you.


Something you surely have never done.

*rolls eyes*
 
2012-12-04 05:39:26 PM  
BLAH HELICOPTERS!
 
2012-12-04 05:39:28 PM  

Mrbogey: 92myrtle: FWIW...here are the traitors who...

Labeling people who voted against your desires as traitors reveals a lot about you. Specifically why you should be ignored in serious discussions on govt.


That's funny coming from someone with no credibility. You are laughed out of most threads and still have the nerve to call other people out.
 
2012-12-04 05:41:23 PM  

Cletus C.: Not trying to start something, but...


Of course you aren't. You're just asking, is all.
 
2012-12-04 05:41:30 PM  
Can someone explain to me how this treaty would interfere with home schooling?

Usually I can point and laugh at the twisted logic in Derp, but in this case I can't even identify the supposed logic that's twisted.
 
2012-12-04 05:42:03 PM  

CynicalLA: Mrbogey: 92myrtle: FWIW...here are the traitors who...

Labeling people who voted against your desires as traitors reveals a lot about you. Specifically why you should be ignored in serious discussions on govt.

That's funny coming from someone with no credibility. You are laughed out of most threads and still have the nerve to call other people out.


I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...
dummy calls the Republicans who voted for this treaty "traitors". Bogey says "that's dumb". You and Diogenes say "nu-uh you're dumb"?
 
2012-12-04 05:44:28 PM  

InmanRoshi: Can someone explain to me how this treaty would interfere with home schooling?


If your house doesn't have the Eurozone mandated accessibility requirements for the handicapped, you are violating international law to hold classes there even if your kids aren't handicapped and you are liable to be hauled up to the Hague for trial, bypassing your Constitutional protections.
 
2012-12-04 05:45:05 PM  

Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals: I've literally never understood this argument. Who the fark cares what we look like to the international community? If the international community jumped off a bridge would we look like an asshole for not following along? This is the United States, we do what we want, when we want, however we want and life is pretty great living here aside from when you libs want to tax us all to death. Screw the UN and the international community.


People dun did told me that I shouldn't dip nacho cheese on my Krispy Kreme, but I tell them frenchie homos just watch me.
t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-04 05:45:18 PM  

Corvus: I can see the BS you are trying to pretend. I think you are pretending since it's after the fact that doesn't stop rape but if you believe that then you would think rape laws also have no affect because they are also after the fact.


There was no provisions prohibiting the pursuing of criminal charges in the work contract. Your summary blurs the issue, no surprise. The issue was pursuing civil liabilities against the corporation for crimes that occur.

Al Franken built a straw.an and you e beat the hell out of it.

You must be pissed over our support of Morsi in Egypt considering all the rape.
 
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