kbronsito: I attended several of the negotiation rounds for this treaty. I've read the whole thing and participated in meetings to select language. I'm pretty sure it doesn't include anything in there that would allow the UN to take over America... sure, the middle eastern countries included some language about making sure the disabled were protected in occupied territories to see if they could make israel look bad... but that was moved from the treaty into the non-binding preable.also the mid-east countries took out all the language about allowing people with disabilities receive information about sexuality (which was stupid because as a non-discrimiantion treaty it only asked that they be given the same information as their non-disabled peers. So if your country is run by a bunch of primitive prudes that provide zero information on sexuality to its citizens, you were free to do that for the disabled as well).
Today's reprehensible treaty rejection in the Sen. should put to rest any hope that the US will ever ratify a serious int'l climate treaty.- David Roberts (@drgrist) December 4, 2012
Cyberluddite: IIRC, this was the issue that Rick "Frothy Mixture" Santorum was pushing them on. So they actually went full retard--again. Wow.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: From a Boston.com article:language in the treaty guaranteeing the disabled equal rights to reproductive health care could lead to abortions. Parents, Lee said, will ''raise their children with the constant looming threat of state interference.''
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Moran (R-KS)
Grand_Moff_Joseph: For the record (and the dumpsters of history), here are your 38 elected senators who have a problem with equal treatment for disabled people. Notice what they all have in common with each other???Nays - 38Alexander (R-TN)Blunt (R-MO)Boozman (R-AR)Burr (R-NC)Chambliss (R-GA)Coats (R-IN)Coburn (R-OK)Cochran (R-MS)Corker (R-TN)Cornyn (R-TX)Crapo (R-ID)DeMint (R-SC)Enzi (R-WY)Graham (R-SC)Grassley (R-IA)Hatch (R-UT)Heller (R-NV)Hoeven (R-ND)Hutchison (R-TX)Inhofe (R-OK)Isakson (R-GA)Johanns (R-NE)Johnson (R-WI)Kyl (R-AZ)Lee (R-UT)McConnell (R-KY)Moran (R-KS)Paul (R-KY)Portman (R-OH)Risch (R-ID)Roberts (R-KS)Rubio (R-FL)Sessions (R-AL)Shelby (R-AL)Thune (R-SD)Toomey (R-PA)Vitter (R-LA)Wicker (R-MS)
kbronsito: I attended several of the negotiation rounds for this treaty.
Corvus: WHY ARE INTERNATIONAL TRADE AGREEMENTS NEVER A THREAT TO US SOVEREIGNTY TO REPUBLICANS? IT'S ONLY WHEN WE TRY TO HELP PEOPLE?
Rev.K: kbronsito: I attended several of the negotiation rounds for this treaty.What do you do for a living?Or did you do this for fun?
kbronsito: Rev.K: kbronsito: I attended several of the negotiation rounds for this treaty.What do you do for a living?Or did you do this for fun?I've worked for various funders. At that time I was working for a foundation that financed a bunch of disability rights activists from developing countries to attend the UN negotiations. This was the first UN treaty to incorporate NGOs at every step of the way. I was just supposed to do the funder thing and observed... but they needed able bodied people to push wheelchairs and guide blind people and they needed people to do interpretation during the off hours that the UN didn't pay for it. So I did all those things.
kbronsito: Quite the opposite. That language is meant to keep the disabled from a) being denied reproductive health care because they (and their potentially disabled offspring) are not worth the investment or b) being forced to have an abortion because they are not considered able to care for a child or c) being forcibly sterilized for the same reasons
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Look, you libtards don't understand about what US Sovereignty means. Let me explain it to you.Sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a - you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and the UN is one between sovereign entities.
wxboy: GWB is a RINO now.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: and that language in the treaty guaranteeing the disabled equal rights to reproductive health care could lead to abortions.
sweetmelissa31: Holy f*cking sh*t do these people ever stop thinking of ways to get into other people's vaginas?
dahmers love zombie: Specifically he expressed concerns that the treaty could lead to the state, rather than parents, determining what was in the best interest of disabled children in such areas as home schooling, and that language in the treaty guaranteeing the disabled equal rights to reproductive health care could lead to abortions.Go die. Seriously. Crawl into a farking hole and pull it in after yourself. Repugnant, vile excuse for a human.
Diogenes: I want to find out if Cuba voted for it at the UN.It will make some nice fodder in my strongly-worded letter to Senator Rubio.
kmmontandon: sweetmelissa31:Holy f*cking sh*t do these people ever stop thinking of ways to get into other people's vaginas?I don't.
trivial use of my dark powers: If he'd managedStupid fat thumbs
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Diogenes: I want to find out if Cuba voted for it at the UN.It will make some nice fodder in my strongly-worded letter to Senator Rubio.Cuba voted for the treaty and ratified it.Source
whistleridge: In summary: the UN is at best a sovereign person, and is in no way a sovereign state. Sorry, but you fail.
Trivia Jockey: whistleridge: In summary: the UN is at best a sovereign person, and is in no way a sovereign state. Sorry, but you fail.I think he was being facetious.
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