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(Outside Online)   The tiny town of Bugarach, France is the safest place to be on December 21, as aliens will emerge from a nearby mountain to rescue humans from the Mayan apocalypse   (outsideonline.com) divider line 109
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2012-12-04 10:46:33 PM
How to prevent the world from coming to an end on December 21, 2012 (to be read in Mitch Hedberg's voice): buy a new calendar.

Thank you.
2012-12-04 11:00:45 PM
Raelian, please.
2012-12-04 11:03:54 PM

"Foooooled yooouuuuu!"
2012-12-04 11:30:54 PM
The Mayan calendar cycle has ended several times withou incident. It's based on the same astronomical cycles (such as the 19-year-year Moon cycle) as other calendars but the Mayans worked out an extremely accurate (if complex) calendar.

The problem with astronomical calendars is that astronomical cycles don't sync well. There aren't 12 lunar months in a year, there are 13 (the Zodiac actually crosses 13 signs--the snake handler was tossed out of the official Babylonian Zodiac to make the numbers nice and round and also in order to suppress snake worship in favour of newer gods. The extra god of the extra sign was literally demonized and became that Great Serpent, the Devil.). Twelve months or thirteen, you end up with a 364 day year if you insist on round numbers. The 360 day calendar became a 364 day calendar (plus leap days when needed) and tthen a 365 day year, which was better but you still need to add a day every four years, skip it in years divisible by 100, but add it in years divisible by 400. Meanwhile the Roman Emperors screwed with the number of days per month, stealing from February to enrich July (Julius Caesar) and August (Augustus Caesar).

If you don't add leap days the seasonal holidays such as the Spring planting festival (aka Easter, Passover, May Day, etc.) wander through the year as the planets and stars wander through the sky.

In fact, even the days don't cooperate. It takes the Earth 23 hours and 56 minutes to rotate on its axis, which means that each night the stars and planets slip by four minutes (give or take, seeing as the Earth's orbit around the Sun isn't a perfect circle).

The math becomes too complicated for simple sheperds and farmers and then you get priests--and taxation, tithes, theocrats, kings, debt, etc. And, of course, the longest cover-up in the history of the world, namely the existence of the 13th Sign of the Zodiac.

The Mayans were good but they weren't perfect because there will always be a bit of wobble--the Earth wobbles, the orbits of the planets wobbles--it's a chaotic system that works for long periods and then goes wonky in exciting and dangerous ways.

The likelihood of global catastrophes on December 21, 2012 is about the same as any other day of the history of the world. There is neither scientific nor theological reasons to suppose that the day this calendar rolls over is any different from the Christian New Year, Chinese New Year, or any other New Cycle of time-keeping. We make all this calendar crap up to organize the unorganizable cycles of nature.

You can even find the traces of the astrological-astronomical underpinings of religion in the first chapter of Genesis. Only the Roman Catholic Church fiddled the days of Creation when they switched from celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday to the Lord's Day on Sunday.

Each of the Days of Bibilical Creation reflects the signs of the Zodiac, their titulary god or goddess, and the domains over which each of them ruled.

Sunday--creation of light (the Sun and Moon are created on Wednesday, the day of Mercury, or Nebo, the god of astrology, astronomy, and the messenger of gods and men).
Monday--the Moon god or goddess. Creation of the sea (and tides) and dry land. Day and Night.
Tuesday--Mars, the god of war and of cattle, hence the creation of green grass (pastures for the flocks).
Wednesday, Mercury, the messenger, priest, astrologer and astronomer of the Gods.
Thursday (named after Thor in English, Jove in Latin) ... and so forth.

And on Saturday, the Sabbatth, God rested from his work. Saturday is named for Saturn, the God who reigned before Jove, god of time the devourer of all things (and the God who ate Jupiter's siblings and would have gotten Jupiter himself if a trick hadn't been played on him).

The Babylonian system underlies the Hebrew, the Greek, the Roman and even the Christian stories. Same basic planets, gods, time keeping, etc.
2012-12-04 11:42:31 PM
This French story reminds me of folklore. Dwellers in hills, magic trees, etc., include many Ancient nature gods and godlings (satyrs and nymphs and dryads, etc.) but also much of the folklore of Europe.

Magcal people who live in hills (and who come out miraculously to save you or to carry you away to fairy land) are a common "motif" in folklore. You have your baisc Rip Van Winkle, your Seven Sleepers (a Turkish legend), and uncountable stories about the many ancient sites that are scattered across Europe by the 100,000s.

Apparent modern French UFO folklore isn't much more sophisticated than the folklore of the Andes or the Middle Ages.

By the way, European UFOologists lean towards the folklore hypothesis rather than the alien technological hypothesis. Remember the French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Based on a real French UFOologist.

There is a remarkable similarity between many alien abduction stories of both kinds ("space alien" and "supernatural alien").
2012-12-04 11:48:10 PM
Speaking of sparing a small village, wasn't there something like that in the movie 2012 or one of those silly Nicholas Cage movies? You'd be amazed how many of these UFO legends follow the plots of B movies.
2012-12-05 04:22:07 PM
Uh huh
2012-12-06 02:44:35 AM

CruJones: no clever name here just move along: I'm going to Teotihuacan for the end of the world.
I arrive in Mexico City on the 20th.Should be fun.

Did you get a round trip ticket, or just one-way?

haha I actually *did* buy a one way ticket!
Not because of the whole 'end of the world' thing, but because I have a flexible schedule
and knew I could stay a while......
2012-12-06 02:50:59 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?

[www.webexhibits.org image 350x350]

because those 2 eyes in the middle mean "DRAGON". aka rand al'thor, tar valon, etc..

So..ummm... NO.
The face in the middle is named Tonatiuh, and he/she is a sun god/dess.
(there is some theory that although Tonatiuh is commonly known as male, the actual stone was defaced to disquise the fact that
Tonatiuh is female. (the whole patriarchal society thing won....)

Anyway, the picture you have posted, which is taken to be the Mayan calendar in this pre-end of the world speculation, is actually Aztec, and is called La Piedra del Sol. (The Sun Stone.)

Yes, for real.

/the more you know!
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