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(Outside Online)   The tiny town of Bugarach, France is the safest place to be on December 21, as aliens will emerge from a nearby mountain to rescue humans from the Mayan apocalypse   (outsideonline.com) divider line 109
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2012-12-04 01:30:04 PM  
O little town of Bugarach
How still we see thee lie
Above thy deep and dreamless sleep
The glowing saucers fly...
 
2012-12-04 01:32:50 PM  
media.smithsonianmag.com

It's been done.
 
2012-12-04 01:49:54 PM  
Star children on the black road to salvation
Children of the forest, child of the Woodstock Nation
You've gotta care for the needs of your planet
Catch the dawn that once was there
First-born atomic generation
Open the door, don't you know that's what it's for
Come on and join us ... on the other side of the Sun
 
2012-12-04 02:05:10 PM  
Obliteration or anal probe? It's a tough choice. I get the feeling once they've got you up there it's not going to be just the once either.
 
2012-12-04 02:07:04 PM  

Sybarite: Obliteration or anal probe? It's a tough choice. I get the feeling once they've got you up there it's not going to be just the once either.


I know I'm hot and all, but I don't understand what intelligent beings who have mastered interstellar travel would find interesting about my anus.
 
2012-12-04 02:14:02 PM  
arcturi.com

That's just silly talk!
 
2012-12-04 02:20:15 PM  
Good to know.
 
2012-12-04 02:21:34 PM  
Raelians?

/DNRTFA
 
2012-12-04 02:22:23 PM  
This has been so well publicized at this point, undoubtedly the aliens will show up there first.
 
2012-12-04 02:27:39 PM  
If you don't want the aliens to get you, just hang out with the border patrol

bah-dum-tish
 
2012-12-04 02:28:44 PM  
The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.
 
2012-12-04 02:33:29 PM  
"Hey everyone! Stupid is coming to town! Time to make some money!"

I'm OK with this.
 
2012-12-04 02:34:21 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Oh, is that so? We'll see about that.

xfphotos.fredfarm.com
 
2012-12-04 02:34:21 PM  
As the annunaki taught us, these star beings descended on Jacob's ladder, while talking to Benjamin Franklin and causing the destruction of the dinosaurs just before altering our DNA by merging it with their own, ex-TRA-terrestrial DNA. The aliens are why all these divergent global cultures built pyramids, it's definitely not because it's the easiest way to build something tall. The Hopi indians landed at Area 51.

/that's what I've learned watching the History Channel
 
2012-12-04 02:34:44 PM  

Your_Dog: The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.


How in the hell did you make it past Kate Upton's squirting boobies??
 
2012-12-04 02:35:30 PM  

bwilson27: Your_Dog: The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.

How in the hell did you make it past Kate Upton's squirting boobies??


Took a minute.
 
2012-12-04 02:37:14 PM  

Your_Dog: bwilson27: Your_Dog: The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.

How in the hell did you make it past Kate Upton's squirting boobies??

Took a minute.


more like 30 seconds amirite?!?!
 
2012-12-04 02:37:40 PM  
Why, in my excitement, I had forgotten that we all have just a couple more weeks to live. So hows everyone planning to spend their final days?
 
2012-12-04 02:38:30 PM  
Metalocalypse??
 
2012-12-04 02:38:53 PM  
It's too bad this is an end of the world thing and not just a rapture thing. At least with raptures you can set up "Take care of left behind pets" businesses and make some money off of it. With the end of the world, you don't even get to do that.
 
2012-12-04 02:39:07 PM  
Is that anywhere near Remulak?
 
2012-12-04 02:41:05 PM  
I'm not sure I want to go with any aliens from Buggerranch. I may take my chances with the Perilous Nuns.
 
2012-12-04 02:42:12 PM  
I hope there will be some world wide tremors before the big day. Just think how easy it would be to get laid before the world ends?
 
2012-12-04 02:42:35 PM  
www.milesago.com
 
2012-12-04 02:43:24 PM  
Fark, and I won't have my passport lined up in time

/shoulda got on that while I had the chance
//nice knowing you guys
 
2012-12-04 02:44:53 PM  
Please, aliens are not going down in December 21st to kidnap people.

It's Ragnarok. Get it right.
 
2012-12-04 02:46:35 PM  
What if it's the aliens that start the Mayan apocalypse?
 
2012-12-04 02:46:41 PM  

LeroyBourne: I hope there will be some world wide tremors before the big day. Just think how easy it would be to get laid before the world ends?


she's just gonna have u arrested for rape
 
2012-12-04 02:51:54 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: LeroyBourne: I hope there will be some world wide tremors before the big day. Just think how easy it would be to get laid before the world ends?

she's just gonna have u arrested for rape


Ohhh, she'll call it rape, but later she'll admit it was just bad sex. ;)
 
2012-12-04 02:54:16 PM  

Carn: Your_Dog: bwilson27: Your_Dog: The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.

How in the hell did you make it past Kate Upton's squirting boobies??

Took a minute.

more like 30 seconds amirite?!?!


yes
 
2012-12-04 02:56:34 PM  

LeroyBourne: Jon iz teh kewl: LeroyBourne: I hope there will be some world wide tremors before the big day. Just think how easy it would be to get laid before the world ends?

she's just gonna have u arrested for rape

Ohhh, she'll call it rape, but later she'll admit it was just bad sex. ;)


rapé rap-eh it's how the french people pronounce it! ask DSK.
 
2012-12-04 02:56:49 PM  

SuperChuck: What if it's the aliens that start the Mayan apocalypse?


Are you referring to the Reptilian's from Mt Shasta?
 
2012-12-04 02:58:58 PM  
I bought myself a new food processor for Christmas. I damn well better get to use it or I'm going to kick a Mayan's ass back to the beginning of their first calendar.

/ITG and all that
 
2012-12-04 03:00:15 PM  
I say we send in Team America to get the Mayans before they get us. Eff yeah.
 
2012-12-04 03:01:22 PM  
Full disclosure. The actual Mayans think this whole apocalypse thing is silly. Just Funnin'.
 
2012-12-04 03:01:36 PM  
Because if I was an alien with a FTL ship looking to "think green" and save a doomed primitive species from a catastrophe, I know that my specimen gathering strategy would be to make a single trip and just grab whoever was standing around a random village in France the day of.
 
2012-12-04 03:01:59 PM  
I'm not worrying about the Mayan Apocalypse. I'm not Mayan.

Also, I think they already had theirs...
 
2012-12-04 03:02:55 PM  

JackieRabbit: Why, in my excitement, I had forgotten that we all have just a couple more weeks to live. So hows everyone planning to spend their final days?


I keep trying to bet every penny I own that the world will still be here on 12/22 but so far no takers. Oh and I'll be driving 12/22 so the drinking will have to happen then.
 
2012-12-04 03:03:44 PM  
videokeman.com

RIP Burt Bugarach
 
2012-12-04 03:04:35 PM  

IAtetheChupacabra: I'm not worrying about the Mayan Apocalypse. I'm not Mayan.

Also, I think they already had theirs...


So they were off by a couple millenia.
 
2012-12-04 03:05:27 PM  

LargeCanine: Full disclosure. The actual Mayans think this whole apocalypse thing is silly. Just Funnin'.


they're SCREWIN WITH US! they KNOW the world's banks are coming to an end. it's called the FISCAL CLIFF and OBMAA can't do NOTHING!!

meaning obama does something
and fixes everything
 
2012-12-04 03:06:52 PM  
Bugarach beats Texas Hold 'Em any day.
www.australiansportsentertainment.com
 
2012-12-04 03:07:18 PM  

Your_Dog: Carn: Your_Dog: bwilson27: Your_Dog: The Sun has video of a "jellyfish-like object" zipping around over said mountain...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

scroll down for vid.

How in the hell did you make it past Kate Upton's squirting boobies??

Took a minute.

more like 30 seconds amirite?!?!

yes


That's why I say "this will only take a second" because anything else is a bonus!
 
2012-12-04 03:09:09 PM  

LargeCanine: IAtetheChupacabra: I'm not worrying about the Mayan Apocalypse. I'm not Mayan.

Also, I think they already had theirs...

So they were off by a couple millenia.


-------------------------------------------------

Yeah, if they didn't see theirs coming (a little early), I'm not so sure I want to place any faith in their "prediction" of ours.

Also, Also, my calendar ends in December. Every December. Oooooooh!
 
2012-12-04 03:13:41 PM  
How long have aliens been living in that mountain? Longer than the French Republic? It's probably long enough that they at least have amnesty. That would make them citizens or at least legal residents. Maybe we should stop calling them aliens at this point and call them Interstellar Frenchpeople or something.
 
2012-12-04 03:16:20 PM  
The solar flare will really pass over Earth and hit Mars.
 
2012-12-04 03:17:36 PM  
I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.
 
2012-12-04 03:24:15 PM  

topcon: I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.


Leap years, dude! You have to subtract a day for every fourth year since leap years were instituted. We're already all dead.
 
2012-12-04 03:27:26 PM  

texdent: The solar flare will really pass over Earth and hit Mars.


what if it hits McPluto

static.tvfanatic.com
mama!
 
2012-12-04 03:33:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Star children on the black road to salvation
Children of the forest, child of the Woodstock Nation
You've gotta care for the needs of your planet
Catch the dawn that once was there
First-born atomic generation
Open the door, don't you know that's what it's for
Come on and join us ... on the other side of the Sun


As a matter of fact I have seen the saucers
 
2012-12-04 03:36:51 PM  
i.imgur.com
What Bugarach, France may look like.
 
2012-12-04 03:39:37 PM  

Isildur: [i.imgur.com image 304x224]
What Bugarach, France may look like.


i was thinking more along the lines of Transbot. on Sega Card

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-04 03:39:51 PM  
I'm currently traveling on business, and some of the coworkers here at the site I've traveled to were having a little conversation about the Mayan Apocalypse.

I've never actually facepalmed in reality before, but after hearing that the apocalypse is caused by the Sun, the Earth, and the black hole at the center of the Universe aligning, I couldn't resist. I literally slapped my palm against my forehead in astonishment.

Sometimes people wonder why I'm so anti-social. I never wonder.
 
2012-12-04 03:43:37 PM  
img823.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-04 03:47:48 PM  

stu1-1: [img823.imageshack.us image 440x450]


what about the 1987 release of Black Sabbath's The Eternal Idol??
 
2012-12-04 03:48:28 PM  
It would be nice to turn that crisis into an opportunity. French women (minus Paris) have a reputation for being...enjoyable.
1. A small pilgrimage to Bugarach
2. meet and sweet talk never been married or in love French woman
3. switch Fearmongering end of the world talk
4. Sex
5. Next flight to Boston
 
2012-12-04 03:50:45 PM  
I haven't been to Bugarach itself, but I've stayed in the general vicinity. It's wild, beautiful and very rugged territory. And it's been home to packs of heretics and wackaloons for centuries (e.g. the Cathars).
 
2012-12-04 03:53:57 PM  
Ahhh, uhhh. Look, man. And so forth.

www.webchoices.us
 
2012-12-04 03:56:59 PM  
www.ufopaedia.org

Spotted en route to Bugarach, transporting a welcoming committee.
 
2012-12-04 04:00:56 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Metalocalypse??


Hell yeah!

epguides.com
 
2012-12-04 04:02:54 PM  

darth_badger: [www.milesago.com image 300x305]


listening to that as we speak . . .

\\no more gravity . . .
 
2012-12-04 04:03:52 PM  

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Star children on the black road to salvation
Children of the forest, child of the Woodstock Nation
You've gotta care for the needs of your planet
Catch the dawn that once was there
First-born atomic generation
Open the door, don't you know that's what it's for
Come on and join us ... on the other side of the Sun

As a matter of fact I have seen the saucers


Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Star children on the black road to salvation
Children of the forest, child of the Woodstock Nation
You've gotta care for the needs of your planet
Catch the dawn that once was there
First-born atomic generation
Open the door, don't you know that's what it's for
Come on and join us ... on the other side of the Sun

As a matter of fact I have seen the saucers


I knew someone would have to get that
 
2012-12-04 04:07:03 PM  

Flakeloaf: [videokeman.com image 350x400]

RIP Burt Bugarach


Came to make this pun. I see it's been covered, so I'll just Bugaroff.
 
2012-12-04 04:10:28 PM  
Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?
 
2012-12-04 04:12:30 PM  

topcon: I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.


Me too. Actually, the first I ever heard of the whole 2012 thing was from a friend who is an atheist and thinks all religions (not just organized religion, all religious beliefs) are stupid. Yet for whatever reason, he buys into this. But I think he's one of those survivalist types who actually wants some catastrophe to happen so maybe its wishful thinking.

I don't know; I don't get it.

My theory is: the guy making the calendar ran out of room. In 2013, they were to switch over to the new Puppy-a-Day calendar.
 
2012-12-04 04:15:29 PM  

doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?


Basically it's the theory that because your calendar runs out of pages after December, time comes to an end.

Just tack on some poorly-understood 'ancients', and the generally terrible state of education and critical thinking, and you've got a derpstorm of massive proportions.
 
2012-12-04 04:22:05 PM  
I've been reading this thread and it occurred to me, "hmm, well at least the Farkers have common sense because they seem to unanimously agree that this is all bs." Then it hit me. "The Farkers unanimously agree on something? Surely that's a sign of impending apocalypse!"
 
2012-12-04 04:39:08 PM  
Ricewind will save us.
 
2012-12-04 04:41:13 PM  
Everyone in this thread is going to look like total asses if this all turns out to be true.
 
2012-12-04 04:50:27 PM  

doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?


Because their calender went so far into the future and stopped. People figured they must have known when the world was going to end.
 
2012-12-04 04:54:54 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: topcon: I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.

Me too. Actually, the first I ever heard of the whole 2012 thing was from a friend who is an atheist and thinks all religions (not just organized religion, all religious beliefs) are stupid. Yet for whatever reason, he buys into this. But I think he's one of those survivalist types who actually wants some catastrophe to happen so maybe its wishful thinking.

I don't know; I don't get it.

My theory is: the guy making the calendar ran out of room. In 2013, they were to switch over to the new Puppy-a-Day calendar.


They didn't run out of room, they only went into the future as far as the end of an era that they were in. It all has to do with astronomy. If they were still around in the same kind of culture, they would have made a new calendar for the new era coming up.
 
2012-12-04 04:58:32 PM  

Great Janitor: Everyone in this thread is going to look like total asses if this all turns out to be true.



Boy will my face be red! Might be because it's engulfed in flames, but STILL!
 
2012-12-04 05:00:20 PM  

MarkEC: doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?

Because their calender went so far into the future and stopped. People figured they must have known when the world was going to end.


You'd think they would have noticed the Spanish conquistadors in their prognostication.
 
2012-12-04 05:03:03 PM  

Diogenes: Sybarite: Obliteration or anal probe? It's a tough choice. I get the feeling once they've got you up there it's not going to be just the once either.

I know I'm hot and all, but I don't understand what intelligent beings who have mastered interstellar travel would find interesting about my anus.


No one would have believed in the early years of the 21st century that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, *they* observed and studied, the way a man with a microscope might scrutinize the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of our empire over this world. Yet across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regarded Diogenes' anus with envious eyes and slowly, and surely, drew their plans against it.
 
2012-12-04 05:06:58 PM  
NO BIRDS!
 
2012-12-04 05:14:14 PM  
I wonder what the History Channel is going to do on Dec 22nd they are going to have a huge chunk of space open on the program scheduale
 
2012-12-04 05:22:23 PM  

Great Janitor: Everyone in this thread is going to look like total asses if this all turns out to be true.


Hey I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong. If the world ends on the 21st I'll be here to post an apology.
 
2012-12-04 05:27:40 PM  

groppet: I wonder what the History Channel is going to do on Dec 22nd they are going to have a huge chunk of space open on the program scheduale


They'll just re-run all the Hitler stories that they started with.
 
2012-12-04 05:39:39 PM  

MarkEC: I should be in the kitchen: topcon: I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.

Me too. Actually, the first I ever heard of the whole 2012 thing was from a friend who is an atheist and thinks all religions (not just organized religion, all religious beliefs) are stupid. Yet for whatever reason, he buys into this. But I think he's one of those survivalist types who actually wants some catastrophe to happen so maybe its wishful thinking.

I don't know; I don't get it.

My theory is: the guy making the calendar ran out of room. In 2013, they were to switch over to the new Puppy-a-Day calendar.

They didn't run out of room, they only went into the future as far as the end of an era that they were in. It all has to do with astronomy. If they were still around in the same kind of culture, they would have made a new calendar for the new era coming up.


Did I really sound like I was being serious? Because i wasn't (except for the Puppy-a-Day part. Or not.)
 
2012-12-04 05:40:26 PM  
Bugarup?

www.discworldemporium.com
 
2012-12-04 05:47:49 PM  

doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?


www.webexhibits.org

because those 2 eyes in the middle mean "DRAGON". aka rand al'thor, tar valon, etc..
aka YEAR OF THE DRAGON WHICH IS 2012
 
2012-12-04 05:49:48 PM  
You are all being glib.

You don't even know what the Mayan Apocalypse is. If you start talking about the Mayan Apocalypse, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories. OK. That's what I've done.

You don't know the history of the Mayan Apocalypse, I do.
 
2012-12-04 05:53:29 PM  

Diogenes: [media.smithsonianmag.com image 631x300]

It's been done.


It was even done before that...

ecx.images-amazon.com

Also...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-04 06:16:00 PM  
We'll make great pets !!!
 
2012-12-04 06:20:38 PM  

topcon: I've seen some otherwise intelligent, well educated people lately (in real life) who, even if they don't believe it fully, have some inkling of doubt that just MAYBE the world could possibly end on December 21st.

I don't come out and actually call them a dumbfark to their face, but I tell them in no uncertain terms how ludicrous the idea is for a number of reasons, and that is is no different than the countless other prophecies that come to be famous and never pan out.

One guy, who has an advanced degree in mathematics and who is also a programmer, simply replied "Oh, you're such a skeptic."

I don't understand how people get wrapped up in this horseshiat. And when December 21st passes, some retard out there will claim "Oh, it was off by six months, they carried the 2 wrong," and then some people will keep clinging onto it, then someone will say "Oh, they were off by four years," and so on.


picard facepalm.jpeg

One would think that someone with a math degree would think logically, by default. I guess that isn't necessary so.
 
2012-12-04 06:29:01 PM  
If you think the world is going to end, then why keep your money? You won't need it. Send it to my Paypal.
 
2012-12-04 06:56:14 PM  

uncoveror: If you think the world is going to end, then why keep your money? You won't need it. Send it to my Paypal.


durr i'm changing all MY MONEY to BITCOINZ!!
 
2012-12-04 07:09:32 PM  

SirEattonHogg: You are all being glib.

You don't even know what the Mayan Apocalypse is. If you start talking about the Mayan Apocalypse, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories. OK. That's what I've done.

You don't know the history of the Mayan Apocalypse, I do.


Agreed. It sounds like most people in this thread have educated themselves as far as listening to what's been thrown at them on the internet/tv.

I've read a few books (non-conclusive, full spectrum revealing books), watched in-depth programs, seen a live 2-hr presentation on Mayan knowledge, philosophy, etc.., and have spoken with as many people as possible about what 2012 means to them/what they think might happen.

I don't claim to know what will happen in the future, but if I've learned anything about 2012 through my inquiries, it's that our planet & life as we know it is very likely to change in a big way sometime in the near future; maybe 12/21/12, or sometime in 2013 or in the next few years/decade. Perhaps 2012 serves as a mid-point in a change that's already started. Additionally, it wasn't just the Mayans that signaled big changes for this point in time. The Egyptians and quite a few other ancient civilizations left behind knowledge about this time. Not to mention the astrological possibilities - massive solar flares at the peak of the sun cycle, earth's shifting polarity, etc..

Please read up on this convergence of 2012 happenings if you don't believe me (preferably in a non-paranoia inducing book as opposed to the wavering opinions of the internet). It's hard to ignore such a multitude of predictions (from ancient to current peoples) for such a wide variety of outcomes, all of which convene sometime in the next year. The media likes to focus on freaky, money-making headlines and people like to find things to hype & be scared about, in case you haven't noticed, but there is much more to 2012 than doomsday claims.

Maybe the shiat is going to hit the fan. Maybe aliens will land. Maybe the poles will shift. Maybe we'll transport to other dimensions. Maybe nothing happens. No one knows! Stop discounting the Mayans as "not predicting their own demise" and "not able to be extremely astrologically advanced since they sacrificed animals" and the historians for "not accounting for leap years" and, "well we survived y2k & 6/6/06." These claims are all from people who spout out crap they've heard from others who haven't educated themselves.

/More convinced than not that we'll survive 12/21/12. At least, I've certainly convinced myself of that to avoid paranoia because being paranoid about things out of your control is silly.
 
2012-12-04 07:13:23 PM  

doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?


Because they're gullible morons.

The Mayan calendar is composed of cycles within cycles. As the numbers go, one very long cycle on the calendar is ending. That, by the calendar, is followed by the next one beginning. It has to do with the numbers and counting system chosen. No more, no less.

Even if the Mayans had some sort of magical power to predict the future, WHICH THEY DIDN'T, they never actually said anything about the world ending.

So, as I said before, gullible morons. They can be safely ignored.
 
2012-12-04 07:15:03 PM  
are we supposed to listen to Rush's 2112 masterpiece on 12/21/12, or something gay like Back Street Boys?
 
2012-12-04 07:32:51 PM  
The Dec 21 date was an early estimate anyway for the calendar flipover, and has turned out to not be accurate, but try telling that to the derp squad after they've already fixated on that one particular date.
 
2012-12-04 08:28:14 PM  
straightbananas

Indeed.

The Egyptians and quite a few other ancient civilizations left behind knowledge about this time.

And how many accurate, fulfilled predictions have these civilisations left behind? What sort of track record do they have in prognostication? By what mechanism were they able to predict events thousands of years in the future, and how were they able to comprehend and communicate concepts beyond their current level of understanding? Were the Egyptians, for example, able to predict Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Arabs, Mongols or Turks?

I'm not being a dick, I'm being logical. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
2012-12-04 09:15:19 PM  
Th most ironic thing about this Mayan calender theatrics is that it is actually a CYCLE! Dec 21, 2012 is the end of a very long cycle!!! CYCLE by it's very definition means it is perpetual otherwise it wouldn't be called a farking cycle!! One cycle ends and the next begin! like a farking monthly cycle! December ends and January comes next!

If you truly believe the Mayan calender than by it's very definition means that you should definitely NOT believe in the end of the world.. even more so than folks who do not believe.
 
2012-12-04 09:17:38 PM  
One day will be the end, for each and everyone one of us.

We're mortal.
 
2012-12-04 09:18:19 PM  
I'm going to Teotihuacan for the end of the world.
I arrive in Mexico City on the 20th.

Should be fun.
 
2012-12-04 09:24:50 PM  

doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?


Read my previous post. It's nothing more than a calender cycle!! The mayan calender ends on that day and a new one begins. They have some bad shiat written on some text and some walls BUT by no means end of the world, end-of-days, ELE type event!!

If the Mayan's (giving them the benefit of doubt here) were sure it was truly the end, then they would have put a GIANT . at the end of that calender cycle... ALAS they didn;t because the next calender cycle begin immediately!!
 
2012-12-04 09:30:56 PM  

Great Janitor: Everyone in this thread is going to look like total asses if this all turns out to be true.


If what the Mayan says will happen (bad shiat but not end of world stuff by any means) than feeling like an ass on that day would probably be the least of my concern.

the Mayans were probably predicting the 05 tsunami, Japanese quake, Sandy, Katrina and throw in a couple Iraqs, Vietnam and Afghanistan type of seriousness all happening at the same time kinda events. Terrible things no doubt BUT not end of humankind scenerio by any means.
 
2012-12-04 09:44:09 PM  

Bondith: straightbananas

Indeed.

The Egyptians and quite a few other ancient civilizations left behind knowledge about this time.

And how many accurate, fulfilled predictions have these civilisations left behind? What sort of track record do they have in prognostication? By what mechanism were they able to predict events thousands of years in the future, and how were they able to comprehend and communicate concepts beyond their current level of understanding? Were the Egyptians, for example, able to predict Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Arabs, Mongols or Turks?

I'm not being a dick, I'm being logical. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


If you're curious, read some books. Watch lectures on the subject. Have you researched at all?
This book is a great place to start, written by a level-headed dude who's been researching the subject for 25 years.
 
2012-12-04 10:02:53 PM  

no clever name here just move along: I'm going to Teotihuacan for the end of the world.
I arrive in Mexico City on the 20th.

Should be fun.


Did you get a round trip ticket, or just one-way?
 
2012-12-04 10:35:17 PM  
I enjoy believing in an ethos that has never once been true. I for one will welcome our new alien overlords.
 
2012-12-04 10:46:33 PM  
How to prevent the world from coming to an end on December 21, 2012 (to be read in Mitch Hedberg's voice): buy a new calendar.

Thank you.
 
2012-12-04 11:00:45 PM  
Raelian, please.
 
2012-12-04 11:03:54 PM  
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"Foooooled yooouuuuu!"
 
2012-12-04 11:30:54 PM  
The Mayan calendar cycle has ended several times withou incident. It's based on the same astronomical cycles (such as the 19-year-year Moon cycle) as other calendars but the Mayans worked out an extremely accurate (if complex) calendar.

The problem with astronomical calendars is that astronomical cycles don't sync well. There aren't 12 lunar months in a year, there are 13 (the Zodiac actually crosses 13 signs--the snake handler was tossed out of the official Babylonian Zodiac to make the numbers nice and round and also in order to suppress snake worship in favour of newer gods. The extra god of the extra sign was literally demonized and became that Great Serpent, the Devil.). Twelve months or thirteen, you end up with a 364 day year if you insist on round numbers. The 360 day calendar became a 364 day calendar (plus leap days when needed) and tthen a 365 day year, which was better but you still need to add a day every four years, skip it in years divisible by 100, but add it in years divisible by 400. Meanwhile the Roman Emperors screwed with the number of days per month, stealing from February to enrich July (Julius Caesar) and August (Augustus Caesar).

If you don't add leap days the seasonal holidays such as the Spring planting festival (aka Easter, Passover, May Day, etc.) wander through the year as the planets and stars wander through the sky.

In fact, even the days don't cooperate. It takes the Earth 23 hours and 56 minutes to rotate on its axis, which means that each night the stars and planets slip by four minutes (give or take, seeing as the Earth's orbit around the Sun isn't a perfect circle).

The math becomes too complicated for simple sheperds and farmers and then you get priests--and taxation, tithes, theocrats, kings, debt, etc. And, of course, the longest cover-up in the history of the world, namely the existence of the 13th Sign of the Zodiac.

The Mayans were good but they weren't perfect because there will always be a bit of wobble--the Earth wobbles, the orbits of the planets wobbles--it's a chaotic system that works for long periods and then goes wonky in exciting and dangerous ways.

The likelihood of global catastrophes on December 21, 2012 is about the same as any other day of the history of the world. There is neither scientific nor theological reasons to suppose that the day this calendar rolls over is any different from the Christian New Year, Chinese New Year, or any other New Cycle of time-keeping. We make all this calendar crap up to organize the unorganizable cycles of nature.

You can even find the traces of the astrological-astronomical underpinings of religion in the first chapter of Genesis. Only the Roman Catholic Church fiddled the days of Creation when they switched from celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday to the Lord's Day on Sunday.

Each of the Days of Bibilical Creation reflects the signs of the Zodiac, their titulary god or goddess, and the domains over which each of them ruled.

Sunday--creation of light (the Sun and Moon are created on Wednesday, the day of Mercury, or Nebo, the god of astrology, astronomy, and the messenger of gods and men).
Monday--the Moon god or goddess. Creation of the sea (and tides) and dry land. Day and Night.
Tuesday--Mars, the god of war and of cattle, hence the creation of green grass (pastures for the flocks).
Wednesday, Mercury, the messenger, priest, astrologer and astronomer of the Gods.
Thursday (named after Thor in English, Jove in Latin) ... and so forth.

And on Saturday, the Sabbatth, God rested from his work. Saturday is named for Saturn, the God who reigned before Jove, god of time the devourer of all things (and the God who ate Jupiter's siblings and would have gotten Jupiter himself if a trick hadn't been played on him).

The Babylonian system underlies the Hebrew, the Greek, the Roman and even the Christian stories. Same basic planets, gods, time keeping, etc.
 
2012-12-04 11:42:31 PM  
This French story reminds me of folklore. Dwellers in hills, magic trees, etc., include many Ancient nature gods and godlings (satyrs and nymphs and dryads, etc.) but also much of the folklore of Europe.

Magcal people who live in hills (and who come out miraculously to save you or to carry you away to fairy land) are a common "motif" in folklore. You have your baisc Rip Van Winkle, your Seven Sleepers (a Turkish legend), and uncountable stories about the many ancient sites that are scattered across Europe by the 100,000s.

Apparent modern French UFO folklore isn't much more sophisticated than the folklore of the Andes or the Middle Ages.

By the way, European UFOologists lean towards the folklore hypothesis rather than the alien technological hypothesis. Remember the French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Based on a real French UFOologist.

There is a remarkable similarity between many alien abduction stories of both kinds ("space alien" and "supernatural alien").
 
2012-12-04 11:48:10 PM  
Speaking of sparing a small village, wasn't there something like that in the movie 2012 or one of those silly Nicholas Cage movies? You'd be amazed how many of these UFO legends follow the plots of B movies.
 
2012-12-05 04:22:07 PM  
Uh huh
 
2012-12-06 02:44:35 AM  

CruJones: no clever name here just move along: I'm going to Teotihuacan for the end of the world.
I arrive in Mexico City on the 20th.Should be fun.



Did you get a round trip ticket, or just one-way?


haha I actually *did* buy a one way ticket!
Not because of the whole 'end of the world' thing, but because I have a flexible schedule
and knew I could stay a while......
 
2012-12-06 02:50:59 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: doczoidberg: Can someone tell me just WHY everyone thinks the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012?

Seriously. In a simple, abridged way. What is the theory, exactly?

[www.webexhibits.org image 350x350]

because those 2 eyes in the middle mean "DRAGON". aka rand al'thor, tar valon, etc..
aka YEAR OF THE DRAGON WHICH IS 2012


So..ummm... NO.
The face in the middle is named Tonatiuh, and he/she is a sun god/dess.
(there is some theory that although Tonatiuh is commonly known as male, the actual stone was defaced to disquise the fact that
Tonatiuh is female. (the whole patriarchal society thing won....)

Anyway, the picture you have posted, which is taken to be the Mayan calendar in this pre-end of the world speculation, is actually Aztec, and is called La Piedra del Sol. (The Sun Stone.)

Yes, for real.

/the more you know!
 
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