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(NBC Chicago)   You never know when those vials of blood you've been keeping in your freezer for a rainy day could come in handy. Particularly if they belong to folks like John Wayne Gacy   (nbcchicago.com) divider line 23
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2012-12-04 01:58:48 PM
Nick Knight?
 
2012-12-04 01:58:57 PM
Hai Guise!
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2012-12-04 02:00:20 PM
If we blame the dead guys, maybe they won't notice how many murders go unsolved...
 
2012-12-04 02:02:03 PM
FTA...Among the other executed inmates whose blood was submitted for testing was Lloyd Wayne Hampton, a drifter executed in 1998 for his crimes.


Always 3 .....
 
2012-12-04 02:03:02 PM

dv-ous: If we blame the dead guys, maybe they won't notice how many murders go unsolved...


A guy goes inside a bar, gun in hand, and yells out "Which one of you farkers slept with my wife?".

No one said a thing, and the guy shot someone, killing him.

"I'll ask again, and if I get no answers, I shoot someone else. Who slept with my wife!?"

"He did" said a drunk, pointing at the dead guy.
 
2012-12-04 02:06:30 PM
figured out they could get the executed men entered in a national database shared with other law enforcement agencies because the murderers were technically listed as homicide victims when they were put to death by the state.

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2012-12-04 02:07:26 PM
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I'LL TOUCH YOUR PENIS!
 
2012-12-04 02:12:01 PM

Maud Dib: FTA...Among the other executed inmates whose blood was submitted for testing was Lloyd Wayne Hampton, a drifter executed in 1998 for his crimes.


Always 3 .....


It's common, but I present Dahmer and Shawcross as exhibits of how it's not a universal constant.
 
2012-12-04 02:19:13 PM
Why is everyone downing on Gacy. He was just hungry. 

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2012-12-04 02:21:04 PM

ladyfortuna: Maud Dib: FTA...Among the other executed inmates whose blood was submitted for testing was Lloyd Wayne Hampton, a drifter executed in 1998 for his crimes.

Always 3 .....

It's common, but I present Dahmer and Shawcross as exhibits of how it's not a universal constant.


Killers with simple and common names get referred to by three names, killers with rare names get one.
 
2012-12-04 02:41:11 PM
Cook County Sheriff's Department ... figured out they could get the executed men entered in a national database ... because the murderers were technically listed as homicide victims when they were put to death by the state.

*forking my mashed potatoes* this means something.
 
2012-12-04 02:41:43 PM
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2012-12-04 03:47:10 PM

the801: Cook County Sheriff's Department ... figured out they could get the executed men entered in a national database ... because the murderers were technically listed as homicide victims when they were put to death by the state.

*forking my mashed potatoes* this means something.


That whole thing kind of bewilders me. What possible reason could we have NOT to enter DNA from deceased suspects into the national database? They're already dead, they don't care what we do with it... and it could potentially solve a lot of crimes.
 
2012-12-04 04:02:32 PM
"Belongs"? Do you own blood that comes out of you?
 
2012-12-04 04:07:34 PM

ladyfortuna: That whole thing kind of bewilders me. What possible reason could we have NOT to enter DNA from deceased suspects into the national database? They're already dead, they don't care what we do with it... and it could potentially solve a lot of crimes.


This. I'm all for preserving evidence. I have heard of states refusing permission to DNA test evidence from crimes for which someone has already been executed, and I remember hearing about one DNA exoneration that was possible only because one criminologist kept redundant samples against department regulations. Do any states have a policy, official or otherwise, of destroying evidence in death penalty cases in order to avoid later embarrassment?
 
2012-12-04 04:48:32 PM
So when I submitted the story with the Farked angle that FBI would only accept the DNA profiles of the serial killers if they were listed as homicide victims because they were killed (executed) by the state...?
 
2012-12-04 04:55:49 PM

wildcardjack: ladyfortuna: Maud Dib: FTA...Among the other executed inmates whose blood was submitted for testing was Lloyd Wayne Hampton, a drifter executed in 1998 for his crimes.

Always 3 .....

It's common, but I present Dahmer and Shawcross as exhibits of how it's not a universal constant.

Killers with simple and common names get referred to by three names, killers with rare names get one.


And nearly all serial killers have "Wayne" as a middle name.

It's SCIENCE.
 
2012-12-04 05:51:29 PM
doesn't care for vials of blood

not one bit
 
2012-12-04 05:53:32 PM

inner ted: doesn't care for vials of blood

not one bit


farking farks

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doesn't care for vials of blood
 
2012-12-04 06:19:08 PM

pciszek: ladyfortuna: That whole thing kind of bewilders me. What possible reason could we have NOT to enter DNA from deceased suspects into the national database? They're already dead, they don't care what we do with it... and it could potentially solve a lot of crimes.

This. I'm all for preserving evidence. I have heard of states refusing permission to DNA test evidence from crimes for which someone has already been executed, and I remember hearing about one DNA exoneration that was possible only because one criminologist kept redundant samples against department regulations. Do any states have a policy, official or otherwise, of destroying evidence in death penalty cases in order to avoid later embarrassment?


I'm sure there's some weirdity to do with either warrants, right to fair trial (since the dead person cannot later "confront the witnesses against him"), presumption of innocence, etc.

There's also the slowness of bureaucracy involved. Remember that until very recently, evidence had to be tangible: That is, a DNA sample had to be obtained from actual blood, and couldn't be (and in some cases still can't) be a profile on file from an old sample. So if you wanted to compare a new or cold case to a suspect, you had to have his actual blood to compare to the new case, not just a sheet of paper with the DNA readout on it. The lab had to take real blood from the suspect and run a whole new test against the new sample.

So the problem became keeping around vials and swatches of blood in various storage facilities all over the place. It takes up space, which is costly; it degrades, which creates reasonable doubt in later cases; and also it gets used up, which means eventually you could have a case where you know your suspect is the killer and you don't have any more of your sample left to test against his blood. So it's reasonable, where the killer has been executed, to just destroy all the evidence, because the only reason to keep samples around would be to clear unsolved cases. It's not like Gacy or Bundy can be tried again and re-executed for any new crimes.
 
2012-12-04 07:31:30 PM

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Awesome! best LOL I've had in a while...thanks!

/might have to repost that on FB!
 
2012-12-04 07:57:06 PM
I know that some of you won't understand... milk blood to keep from running out.
 
2012-12-05 10:28:42 PM
I'm just stocking up on blood in case I get turned into a vampire. With my lack of coordination, the "leap out of the darkness and sink my fangs into the throats of the living" will probably take weeks to get down pat.
 
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