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2012-12-04 05:26:39 PM  

Treygreen13: It's the same as the "Oh YOU" image with the guy looking down at the dog, except I photoshopped Romo on the guy's face and Dez Bryant's face on the dog.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-12-04 05:29:12 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Treygreen13: It's the same as the "Oh YOU" image with the guy looking down at the dog, except I photoshopped Romo on the guy's face and Dez Bryant's face on the dog.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 150x134]


Is it? If Wes Welker played for the Cowboys and consistently ran the wrong routes for weeks at a time, I'd photoshop him on the dog's face.

Fortunately Dez and Romo seem to be on the same page. At least for now.
 
2012-12-04 05:29:28 PM  

slykens1: Flacco did jack squat in Pittsburgh this year and Baltimore won because of a blown special teams play with Leftwich as QB. (At least Leftwich scored a TD in that game... Flacco managed two FGs)


You say Baltimore won because of a blown special teams play, but ignore that Leftwich's TD was because of a blown defensive assignment?

That would be like me saying "the only reason the Steelers won was because of a blown blocking assignment. Letting Harrison get to Flacco in 2 seconds after the snap was a fluke that never should have happened".
 
2012-12-04 05:35:38 PM  
I posted this yesterday, but repeating anyways.

The Cardinals offense is atrocious, obviously, and that has GREATLY overshadowed the D.

The Cardinals rank among the NFL's top 10 for the season in the following defensive categories: Total QBR, passer rating, completion rate, interceptions per attempt, passing touchdown-to-interception rate, first downs per pass attempt, yards per game, yards per play, passing yards per game, points allowed per drive, expected points per drive, drive distance, goal-to-go efficiency, interception rate, sack rate, first downs per game, third-down conversion rate, red zone touchdown percentage and points allowed per game.
 
2012-12-04 05:36:16 PM  

Treygreen13: "Oh YOU" image with the guy looking down at the dog, except I photoshopped Romo on the guy's face and Dez Bryant's face on the dog.



Dammit. I just snorted. the description alone is LOL.
 
2012-12-04 05:37:04 PM  

JohnBigBootay: John Clayton: Andrew Luck may go down as the greatest rookie quarterback in NFL history.

WTF is he smoking because I'll have some of that. Now... I love Andrew Luck. I think he's very good, gonna get better, and I'd be nothing less than super duper excited about the future of my team if my team had the guy. But greatest rookie qb in NFL history? I don't know if Clayton looks at the stats on the website he works for, but there's two rookie qb's this year alone who have markedly better numbers than the deserving esteemed Mr. Luck. And they've been playing football a good long while. It would take a while to look all this shiat up but at this point of the season I'm not sure Luck cracks the top ten seasons by a rookie qb, let alone best of all time.


I'm sure I'm a little late to the party, but I just want to throw some context in the mix (no info on Russell because I don't have it). Luck is in an offense that is much more vertical than RG III's offense.

" Luck's average pass attempt has traveled 10.2 yards past the line of scrimmage, the longest average pass distance in the league (this was before "Monday Night Football"; Jay Cutler was second at 9.9 entering the game). Griffin averages 7.9 yards downfield per pass attempt, slightly below the league average of 8.2.

And Luck's long average pass distance isn't simply a product of throwing lots of incomplete passes down the field. His average pass distance on completions is 8.6 yards past the line of scrimmage, also highest in the N.F.L. (Cutler was fourth at 8.3 entering Monday night). Griffin's completions come an average of 5.8 yards from the line of scrimmage, well below the league average of 6.5."


That's a pretty big disparity there. Additionally since the offensive line is garbage and Arians loves 5 wide sets, Luck doesn't really have much of a safety valve to dump off passes into the flat. I'm not a huge fan of Arians' offense or playcalling, but it has worked so far. Luck also runs his out 2 minute offenses, and I'm not sure if RG III does that (or even if Shannie would let him). The Colts are asking Luck to do more than either Wilson or RG III, and I'm pretty sure he'd be performing at a "higher" level if the offense was a little more personnel and QB friendly.

Russell and RG III are unquestionably doing better than Luck this year, but there's a reason why Luck is in the conversation at all. The kind of stuff he does well -- 2 minute offense and excellent 3rd down conversion -- are things rookies usually suck at. Washington and Seattle are both bottom 10 at 3rd down conversion. Colts are top 4. I tried to find some up-to-date stats on most points scored in 2-minute scenarios, but I got lazy and decided to go grab a beer instead.

tl;dr You can probably pick any of the three for ROY and I don't think you could go wrong, even if some of the reasons aren't as obvious
 
2012-12-04 05:38:26 PM  
whoops should have been italics, not bold.
 
2012-12-04 05:39:44 PM  

Nofun: Packers behind the Ravens? I don't think so: everyone seems to forget they had one stolen by the scab refs...


The final score of that game was 7-6 Seahawks. Each team got a potato touchdown. Stop crying. The Pack is the most overrated team in the league right now.
And I like the Packers.
 
2012-12-04 05:42:04 PM  

Nofun: Packers behind the Ravens? I don't think so: everyone seems to forget they had one stolen by the scab refs...


True but the Ravens had one stolen by the scabs as well (ignoring Jones' TD against the Eagles)
 
2012-12-04 05:43:09 PM  

Harv72b: roc6783: I think the Packers and Bears are in a competition to see who can be the worst team with the best record.

The way things have been going lately, the Ravens are right up there with them.


I'm still looking good on the "9-7 or 10-6 and a game out of the playoffs" prediction I made at the beginning of the season.

Honestly, they didn't reall just have a bad game - they got exposed. They won against Dallas and NE on luck. PIT with a ST touchdown.

Honestly? I think they're WORSE than I thought they'd be before the season but have been lucky. Injuries mid-season probably play a big part there. Webb and Ngata particularly.

And Joe looks... Well he hasn't had a game as bad as his worst last season. But the O-line sucks. Cameron is as bad as ever. The D-line sucks. The secondary is super injured and can't seem to remember to cover everyone (at least they're ok when they do).

They will not be favored in a game the rest of the season. Nor do they deserve to be.
 
2012-12-04 05:44:03 PM  

thecpt: Treygreen13: Bunny Deville: Also, it's a weekly tradition in our house to gather on the deck and smoke as I recite The Jake for the husband and #2. Reading it out loud, especially when you have theatrical experience, makes it even more fun.

You should make a video one week of a dramatic reading of The Fail.

Oh wow. We uhhh... we might have to do that. I like that the fail has fluidity. Unlike the Jake, it isn't based on numbers,It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead...by laughing...

I'm liking this.


I'll save it for a truly spectacular FAIL, and I'll even wear my Rarity cosplay for it if an ungulate team commits a good one.
 
2012-12-04 05:46:44 PM  

bionicjoe: Nofun: Packers behind the Ravens? I don't think so: everyone seems to forget they had one stolen by the scab refs...

The final score of that game was 7-6 Seahawks. Each team got a potato touchdown. Stop crying. The Pack is the most overrated team in the league right now.
And I like the Packers.


I'm tired of the "7-6" bullshiat. The game farking sucked. There was no outright winner regardless. I'm rooting for a Packers Seahawks round one match up in Lambeau. And the Pack isn't overrated. I'm definitely weary of where they're at right now, but some of their best players are coming back this and next week including I don't know a couple probowlers. I think their rank is reflective of it.
 
2012-12-04 05:53:53 PM  

bionicjoe: Nofun: Packers behind the Ravens? I don't think so: everyone seems to forget they had one stolen by the scab refs...

The final score of that game was 7-6 Seahawks. Each team got a potato touchdown. Stop crying. The Pack is the most overrated team in the league right now.
And I like the Packers.


The Colts think that's hilarious.

//Who is overrating the Packers? No snark, honest question. They are hanging by a thread, and i just hope Rodgers survives to play next year.
 
2012-12-04 05:55:01 PM  

thecpt: I'm tired of the "7-6" bullshiat. The game farking sucked.


True. It's just that the Packers sucked more. They had their asses handed to them the whole first half and were lucky to be down just 7-0. Then they adjusted in the second half, knowingly taking advantage of amateur referees and holding on every play, and scored at most 6 legitimate points. I agree that it was a bad call at the end, but in the context of that travesty of a second half, the Packers had no right to complain. The better team won and that's what matters to me.
 
2012-12-04 05:57:39 PM  

redmid17: Luck's average pass attempt has traveled 10.2 yards past the line of scrimmage, the longest average pass distance in the league (this was before "Monday Night Football"; Jay Cutler was second at 9.9 entering the game). Griffin averages 7.9 yards downfield per pass attempt, slightly below the league average of 8.2.


Lets see... Yards after Catch Leaders (with more than 150 YAC)

Andew Luck:
Reggie Wayne 267 YAC
Dwayne Allen 176 YAC
Donnie Avery 155 YAC
T.Y. Hilton 155 YAC

Robert Griffin
Pierre Garcon 187 YAC
Santana Moss 172 YAC
Josh Morgan 165 YAC

Russell Wilson
Marshawn Lynch 152 YAC

Hopefully you are adjusting for yards after the catch with those numbers.
 
2012-12-04 05:57:47 PM  

Gonz: I can't believe I've been here over a decade.


No shiat. I just looked at my profile and it says 2003. Though like the story goes I lurked a long time. I certainly remember farking all day when those gentlemen flew planes into buildings. Anyway, time flies I suppose.
 
2012-12-04 06:00:21 PM  

degenerate-afro: You say Baltimore won because of a blown special teams play, but ignore that Leftwich's TD was because of a blown defensive assignment?


I freely admitted my point of view was that of a Steelers fan.

Leftwich's run was purely his athleticism gloriously defeating the Ravens defense, in fact, so much that he broke his ribs exuding that athleticism.
 
2012-12-04 06:02:55 PM  

Super Chronic: True. It's just that the Packers sucked more. They had their asses handed to them the whole first half and were lucky to be down just 7-0. Then they adjusted in the second half, knowingly taking advantage of amateur referees and holding on every play, and scored at most 6 legitimate points. I agree that it was a bad call at the end, but in the context of that travesty of a second half, the Packers had no right to complain. The better team won and that's what matters to me.


how do you justify best? To be honest I'm still more angry about the loss to the Colts. And I'm mad at my team for that one. No one else. The Pack had a purely dominant D all game except one broken coverage play. Their O was knocked way out of rhythm to a really good defense but to say sucked less? That was good football being played that night and the potato shadow makes everyone forget it.
 
2012-12-04 06:04:41 PM  

Di Atribe: Gonz: Bulldg, when you've been a member of this site as long as I have, you learn a thing or two.

I can't believe I've been here over a decade.

Wow you're old


Check my Fark account #, kids.
GET THE FARK OFF MAI LAWN WITH YOUR 60,000+ DIAPER-DANDY NUMBER!
 
2012-12-04 06:05:05 PM  

redmid17: tl;dr You can probably pick any of the three for ROY and I don't think you could go wrong, even if some of the reasons aren't as obvious


That's good info. Like I said, I love the guy - looks like he's gonna be very good for a long time. I just think Clayton is on crack, because whatever else Luck's season is, it's not the best performance by a rookie qb this year, let alone of all time. QB rating is an imperfect stat but it's not completely worthless and Luck's ain't very good. And all the poise in the world doesn't completely cancel 16 picks and a 55% completion percentage. He's gonna get better and I'd be happy to have him but Clayton is on crack with that comment.
 
2012-12-04 06:05:32 PM  

thecpt: the potato shadow makes everyone forget it.



where did the potato thing begin? was that this year? i don't rememebr seeing that until about a month into the season.

i love how the NFL thread is all shtick now. everybody has a "thing" with it, i guess.
 
2012-12-04 06:06:06 PM  

bionicjoe: Di Atribe: Gonz: Bulldg, when you've been a member of this site as long as I have, you learn a thing or two.

I can't believe I've been here over a decade.

Wow you're old

Check my Fark account #, kids.
GET THE FARK OFF MAI LAWN WITH YOUR 60,000+ DIAPER-DANDY NUMBER!


You made me curious about my own. apparently I've been posting on fark for 9 years, and I know I lurked for about 2 years prior to that.
 
2012-12-04 06:07:55 PM  

JohnBigBootay: He's gonna get better and I'd be happy to have him but Clayton is on crack with that comment.



i remember watching ESPN a long time and Clayton and....fark, what's his name....Sean Salisbury, there we go, they started arguing some point, and it got a little bit heated, and Salisbury dropped this on Clayton and I went all Showtime at the Apollo, running around my living room shouting "OH NO HE JUSS DITTEN":

"John, I bought you when i came here, I'll sell you when I leave".

brutal.
 
2012-12-04 06:08:43 PM  
In the future, everyone will have a recurring contribution to the Tuesday power rankings thread for 15 minutes.
 
2012-12-04 06:08:54 PM  

rickythepenguin: thecpt: the potato shadow makes everyone forget it.


where did the potato thing begin? was that this year? i don't rememebr seeing that until about a month into the season.

i love how the NFL thread is all shtick now. everybody has a "thing" with it, i guess.


Meant for the potato or substitute refs, derived from the meme I can count to potato, or one and a two and a ching chong potato.
 
2012-12-04 06:09:08 PM  

LucklessWonder: bionicjoe: Di Atribe: Gonz: Bulldg, when you've been a member of this site as long as I have, you learn a thing or two.

I can't believe I've been here over a decade.

Wow you're old

Check my Fark account #, kids.
GET THE FARK OFF MAI LAWN WITH YOUR 60,000+ DIAPER-DANDY NUMBER!

You made me curious about my own. apparently I've been posting on fark for 9 years, and I know I lurked for about 2 years prior to that.


I remember seeing Drew on the ScreenSavers on ZDTV (Yeah, pre TechTV even) in 1999. That's when I first visited the site, mainly because he lived here. No telling how low my # could've been.
 
2012-12-04 06:10:14 PM  

thecpt: Meant for the potato or substitute refs, derived from the meme I can count to potato, or one and a two and a ching chong potato.


i know it was related to the refs, but who can first claim it, i guess?

thse are the things i stay awake and think about.
 
2012-12-04 06:12:04 PM  

rickythepenguin: "John, I bought you when i came here, I'll sell you when I leave".

brutal.



Ouch.
 
2012-12-04 06:12:47 PM  

rickythepenguin: thecpt: Meant for the potato or substitute refs, derived from the meme I can count to potato, or one and a two and a ching chong potato.

i know it was related to the refs, but who can first claim it, i guess?

thse are the things i stay awake and think about.


It was a marketing ploy, by ore-ida. That way you not only think about potatoes during their commercials but also during the game.
 
2012-12-04 06:13:30 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Ouch.


I guess Clayton can claim scoreboard on that one though......far as I know, Clayton never texted a pic of his hog to a staffer.
 
2012-12-04 06:14:16 PM  

rickythepenguin: JohnBigBootay: He's gonna get better and I'd be happy to have him but Clayton is on crack with that comment.


i remember watching ESPN a long time and Clayton and....fark, what's his name....Sean Salisbury, there we go, they started arguing some point, and it got a little bit heated, and Salisbury dropped this on Clayton and I went all Showtime at the Apollo, running around my living room shouting "OH NO HE JUSS DITTEN":

"John, I bought you when i came here, I'll sell you when I leave".

brutal.


Wasn't Salisbury fired for doing the Favre dick-pic thing?
 
2012-12-04 06:14:48 PM  
With all of the injuries, I'll be surprised if the Bears make the playoffs.
 
2012-12-04 06:14:59 PM  

bionicjoe: I remember seeing Drew on the ScreenSavers on ZDTV (Yeah, pre TechTV even) in 1999. That's when I first visited the site, mainly because he lived here. No telling how low my # could've been.



I signed up as "ricky_the_penguin" under what I think wa a 25,000 account number.....forgot about that login.....then signed up as this one in the 55,000 series.......
 
2012-12-04 06:16:15 PM  

rickythepenguin: JohnBigBootay: He's gonna get better and I'd be happy to have him but Clayton is on crack with that comment.


i remember watching ESPN a long time and Clayton and....fark, what's his name....Sean Salisbury, there we go, they started arguing some point, and it got a little bit heated, and Salisbury dropped this on Clayton and I went all Showtime at the Apollo, running around my living room shouting "OH NO HE JUSS DITTEN":

"John, I bought you when i came here, I'll sell you when I leave".

brutal.


I remember Salisbury laying some kind of smackdown on Clayton -- I'll take your word for it that that's what he said -- but that doesn't stop Salisbury from being the single douchiest and most idiotic football analyst ESPN ever had. He won that round, but Clayton can run circles around him intellectually (though his pronouncement on Luck admittedly calls that into question).
 
2012-12-04 06:20:38 PM  

bionicjoe: LucklessWonder: bionicjoe: Di Atribe: Gonz: Bulldg, when you've been a member of this site as long as I have, you learn a thing or two.

I can't believe I've been here over a decade.

Wow you're old

Check my Fark account #, kids.
GET THE FARK OFF MAI LAWN WITH YOUR 60,000+ DIAPER-DANDY NUMBER!

You made me curious about my own. apparently I've been posting on fark for 9 years, and I know I lurked for about 2 years prior to that.

I remember seeing Drew on the ScreenSavers on ZDTV (Yeah, pre TechTV even) in 1999. That's when I first visited the site, mainly because he lived here. No telling how low my # could've been.


I had a 24 obsession back in the day & someone on another board I frequented linked me here to a 24 photoshop thread, in which I discovered there were 24 discussion threads, in which I laughed my ass off & lo, a Farker was borne unto ye some time in 2006-ish. I actually had another login before this one, maybe in 2005. It was boring. This one is less boring.
 
2012-12-04 06:26:04 PM  

Super Chronic: rickythepenguin: JohnBigBootay: He's gonna get better and I'd be happy to have him but Clayton is on crack with that comment.


i remember watching ESPN a long time and Clayton and....fark, what's his name....Sean Salisbury, there we go, they started arguing some point, and it got a little bit heated, and Salisbury dropped this on Clayton and I went all Showtime at the Apollo, running around my living room shouting "OH NO HE JUSS DITTEN":

"John, I bought you when i came here, I'll sell you when I leave".

brutal.

I remember Salisbury laying some kind of smackdown on Clayton -- I'll take your word for it that that's what he said -- but that doesn't stop Salisbury from being the single douchiest and most idiotic football analyst ESPN ever had. He won that round, but Clayton can run circles around him intellectually (though his pronouncement on Luck admittedly calls that into question).


Two words: Rush. Limbaugh
Two more: Chris. Berman
Another Two: Skip. Bayless
 
2012-12-04 06:26:13 PM  

degenerate-afro: Hopefully you are adjusting for yards after the catch with those numbers.


I'm pretty sure the metric regarding yards per average pass attempt is based on how far downfield the pass is thrown, and automatically removes the YAC from the equation.

Here's a good, though quite biased, comparison of Wilson vs Luck (since both are playing the NFC North and AFC East this year).
 
2012-12-04 06:57:07 PM  

degenerate-afro: redmid17: Luck's average pass attempt has traveled 10.2 yards past the line of scrimmage, the longest average pass distance in the league (this was before "Monday Night Football"; Jay Cutler was second at 9.9 entering the game). Griffin averages 7.9 yards downfield per pass attempt, slightly below the league average of 8.2.

Lets see... Yards after Catch Leaders (with more than 150 YAC)

Andew Luck:
Reggie Wayne 267 YAC
Dwayne Allen 176 YAC
Donnie Avery 155 YAC
T.Y. Hilton 155 YAC

Robert Griffin
Pierre Garcon 187 YAC
Santana Moss 172 YAC
Josh Morgan 165 YAC

Russell Wilson
Marshawn Lynch 152 YAC

Hopefully you are adjusting for yards after the catch with those numbers.


You're ignoring the # of catches. Wayne has 88 catches on the year. The 3 skins receivers have a total of 91. Hell Morgan would be #3 on the Colts, and he'd only be 3 catches ahead of #4. Either way, I got the numbers from this NYT blog. I realize they are from late October, but the numbers hold up through now based on other articles I've seen.
 
2012-12-04 06:58:01 PM  

rickythepenguin: I signed up as "ricky_the_penguin" under what I think wa a 25,000 account number.....forgot about that login.....then signed up as this one in the 55,000 series.......


I'm just happy to have squeaked in below 100k. If I'd known it would ever mean anything (and admittedly, it doesn't mean much) I'd have created a login during the lurker years. Apparently I had nothing of value to say so it's just as well I suppose.
 
2012-12-04 07:00:51 PM  
Good job, Rob. I knew you had it in you.
 
2012-12-04 07:02:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: bionicjoe: I remember seeing Drew on the ScreenSavers on ZDTV (Yeah, pre TechTV even) in 1999. That's when I first visited the site, mainly because he lived here. No telling how low my # could've been.


I signed up as "ricky_the_penguin" under what I think wa a 25,000 account number.....forgot about that login.....then signed up as this one in the 55,000 series.......


Same thing happened to me. I can't even remember the nic I used on my original account.
 
2012-12-04 07:04:28 PM  

IAmRight: Here's a good, though quite biased, comparison of Wilson vs Luck (since both are playing the NFC North and AFC East this year).


I'm sure sando has a favorite in that race but the numbers are the numbers and Wilson's are better than Luck's. Strange that Clayton would so overlook Wilson with him being a local and all. At any rate I'd say it's even money that Luck becomes a perennial pro bowler - he just has the look of solid starter for years to come. I don't know if wilson will or not but either way he has been fantastic and he deserves his props for what he's done this year.
 
2012-12-04 07:06:08 PM  

IAmRight: Here's a good, though quite biased, comparison of Wilson vs Luck (since both are playing the NFC North and AFC East this year).


Shiat. Might have to pick up undervalued wilson in FF next year. Wouldn''t expect the sack numbers (though minuscule) to be in Luck's favor though.
 
2012-12-04 07:06:49 PM  
OH FARK YOU, FARK. I TYPE MY WHOLE GODDAMN THING IN THE BOX AND HIT SUBMIT AND YOU GO ALL 500 KABLOOIE. [makes jerk-off motions] I GOT YOUR INTERNAL SERVER ERROR RIGHT HERE.

I mean, uh...
Irrational Productions presents...
The Great Tiebreaker Spreadsheet
with your host, RminusQ

Today's episode: 2012 Week 13


I was already planning to go short-and-sweet and then Fark went and ate my original post. So shorter-and-sweeter it is. AFC game-by-game
justpredictions.webs.com
Houston clinches #1 with a win and losses by Baltimore, Denver, and Indianapolis. If Cleveland gets to 8-8, they'd win a tiebreaker from either Cincy or Pitt (or both). But those two teams, Bengals and Steelers, do still have a game to go. A Steelers win would basically wrap up the six-team field.

NFC game-by-game
justpredictions.webs.com
Notice that nobody is red. Philadelphia can actually still win their division with four wins, four NYG losses, four DAL losses, and three WAS losses (or DAL-WAS can tie). Even the sad Carolina Panthers can still make it! They just need four wins, four SEA losses, three losses each by the Rams, Vikings, Bucs, Cowboys, and Redskins, plus a WAS-DAL tie, PLUS a Saints loss to the Giants PLUS exactly one loss by Arizona.
ctrayne.files.wordpress.com
Yes, Jim Cammey, there is a chance. About the same as the chance of me getting a birthday blowjob from Kaley Cuoco and all four women from Firefly. At the same time.
In the "news about good teams" category, the Giants... well... "news about mediocre teams". Whoever wins the DAL-WAS game (assuming there is a winner) will hold a tiebreaker over the Giants. That means the Giants may need to beat either Atlanta or Baltimore to reach 10 wins and secure the division. Well shiat.
Atlanta, by the way, can also clinch homefield. All they need is a win and losses by the Bears, Packers, and 49ers. Both conference's #1 seeds secured in Week 14? Just the fact that such a scenario exists surprises me.

Lastly, THE GRID:
justpredictions.webs.com
Notice the wide chasm between the decent and the suck in the AFC. Seattle's lead for 6th place in the NFC is only a game, but they hold wins over Dallas and Minnesota, and a likely better conference record over Tampa.
The SOS column tells us the Jets and Jags have had beastly schedules, while the Falcons have played only one team with a winning record (and incredibly, there's only one more such team in their future schedule). The ESS (eventual schedule strength) column tells us that KC is likely to hold the tiebreaker over Jacksonville for the #1 draft pick, but should both teams slip up, Oakland is ready to pounce.
Hypotheticals in orange-text boxes have been entered in the AFC. That's where teams can only wind up tied if one wins out and the other loses out. For instance, New England and Miami could still be tied at 9-7, but in such a case, the Patriots would win the division on division record. I haven't done so in the NFC, because the grid is still so damn crowded.
 
2012-12-04 07:14:10 PM  

UNC_Samurai: robsul82: Friends,

Ladies and Gentlemen, what we have seen here was an unadulterated display of class and professionalism under the direst of circumstances. And I think we all know how robsul82 was able to do it.


The Magic of RG3

[i.imgur.com image 332x465]


Hahahaha.
 
2012-12-04 07:15:29 PM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm sure sando has a favorite in that race but the numbers are the numbers and Wilson's are better than Luck's.


Sando does a pretty good job of pointing out that you really can't make the whole argument out of these numbers and lists the reasons, though.

thecpt: Shiat. Might have to pick up undervalued wilson in FF next year. Wouldn''t expect the sack numbers (though minuscule) to be in Luck's favor though.


He's had 2+ TDs every game for a month or so. But yeah, I probably wouldn't want him the rest of the year, if only because the divisional defenses aren't really who you want your QB going up against.

/had him at the beginning of the season as a backup to Cutler
//should've just kept him but I got impatient
///found Romo a couple weeks ago and that's worked out well anyway
////Wilson has had some bad sacks where he went backwards way more than he should've and those probably screw up his sack yardage numbers, but those were a while ago.
 
2012-12-04 07:18:19 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Strange that Clayton would so overlook Wilson with him being a local and all.


*short joke goes here*
 
2012-12-04 07:23:19 PM  

robsul82: Friends,


Beautiful.
 
2012-12-04 07:24:33 PM  
No, I can't exactly complain about Urlacher's injury.
 
2012-12-04 07:27:09 PM  

RminusQ:
Even the sad Carolina Panthers can still make it! They just need four wins, four SEA losses, three losses each by the Rams, Vikings, Bucs, Cowboys, and Redskins, plus a WAS-DAL tie, PLUS a Saints loss to the Giants PLUS exactly one loss by Arizona.


I still can't get Carolina to show in the ESPN playoff machine even with those conditions. Oh well.
 
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