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Doom MD		2012-12-04 04:23:29 PM

JackieRabbit: dv-ous: I got the flu shot, my housemate didn't. A bunch of people were our sick at work this week, and my housemate is at home on the toilet, crapping out mucous.

So I'm getting a kick out of this thread. Also, I feel great!

Your housemate does not have the flu. Influenza is an upper respiratory illness, not a gastrointestinal infection. You use the term housemate, so perhaps you're a Briton? If so, then in all probability, he/she has rotavirus, since that is something of an epidemic in England just now.

I'd like to add that we vaccinate for rotavirus in the US routinely. Does this mean we've got a leg-up on the Brits in both the teeth and diarrhea department?

Doom MD		2012-12-04 04:24:20 PM

jigger: ChipNASA: If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

Link

"We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it." --Barack Obama, Pennsylvania Rally, April 21, 2008.

What a goddamn ignorant comment to make.

I should be in the kitchen		2012-12-04 04:25:40 PM

ChipNASA: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

[img214.imageshack.us image 648x484]

This is Quinn's remains. He sits atop my piano. He was KILLED by vaccinations that the government forced on us. If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

I know some Farkers are tired of it, but goddamn that meme still cracks me up.

/so horrible

Overused Expression		2012-12-04 04:27:21 PM

I expected some fun from this thread, but leave it to ChipNASA to make sure that responders would gear it up to full retard before thinking about that picture. Well done, sir...

that was my nickname in highschool		2012-12-04 04:32:13 PM

Millennium: Here it is. Somehow I'd missed all this the first time around.

Long story short: a thread on the Duggars losing a baby brings down the standard Fark-hate. Posts come in from an incensed Farker whose wife had lost a baby a few years ago, including a picture of the small memorial shadow-box (which contains, among other things, the remains). This post is confirmed real, and an unusually mean-spirited meme, even for Fark, is born.

...and I officially regret giving the troll a 9/10, knowing what I know now. Leave that meme in the past.

Oh God. I had no idea that was real. I won't be touching that one.

CrazyCracka420		2012-12-04 04:32:55 PM

kieran57: CrazyCracka420: I could care less about the arguments back and forth about the flu vaccine causing autism (I don't believe it does personally from what I've seen). I abstain from getting a flu vaccine every year because I think it's retarded as fark to inject your body with a vaccine to a minor annoyance. Vaccines should be only for the life threatening or body crippling ailments, the stuff we got vaccines for as kids.

Just because they have a vaccine for a minor inconvenience, doesn't mean you should inject your body with it. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.

You are an idiot or a troll. The flu causes/contributes to thousands of deaths a year.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

A whole "thousands" of deaths a year? My god, call the wahmbulance.

jonas opines		2012-12-04 04:38:13 PM

Okay, somebody help me out here, 'cuz I'm not getting it.

WHY are people opposed to vaccines? And by "people" I'm not really asking about the sheepers who see something a celebrity said on the internet or a politician lies about during a speech and just fire up without actually fact-checking. Those people are always there, and they're nothing if not predictable.

What's behind the movement? Somewhere, someone HAS to know that they're making this crap up. What is the purpose? Is there a purpose? It doesn't make any sense!

freewill		2012-12-04 04:42:28 PM

jonas opines: WHY are people opposed to vaccines? And by "people" I'm not really asking about the sheepers who see something a celebrity said on the internet or a politician lies about during a speech and just fire up without actually fact-checking.

Well then, once you've excluded that group, there's really nobody opposed to vaccines left, so...

Seriously though, I have heard the argument put forth that because vaccines have all but stamped out certain diseases, the risk of side effects is supposedly higher than the risk of not being vaccinated, so it's safer for the child to avoid the vaccine than to get it, despite the fact that not getting it increases the risk of actually needing it.

/ Yeah, I know. It sounds dumb when you just spell it out like that. It needs to be coming from an emotional, overprotective suburban mother who insists that you, as a childless man, just can't understand.

jigger		2012-12-04 04:48:39 PM

Autism: the role of cholesterol in treatment.

Cholesterol is essential for neuroactive steroid production, growth of myelin membranes, and normal embryonic and fetal development. It also modulates the oxytocin receptor, ligand activity and G-protein coupling of the serotonin-1A receptor. A deficit of cholesterol may perturb these biological mechanisms and thereby contribute to autism spectrum disorders (ASDs), as observed in Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome (SLOS) and some subjects with ASDs in the Autism Genetic Resource Exchange (AGRE).

Maybe the skyrocketing rate of autism coincides with the rate of pregnant mothers eating low cholesterol diets?

Matrix Flavored Wasabi		2012-12-04 04:49:00 PM

freewill: Arkanaut: Because People in power are Stupid: Congress REPUBLICANS are making us sick.

Eh, TFA says Kucinich is also part of the anti-vax derp brigade.

/derpers gonna derp.

Yeah, in my experience, this is mainly a phenomenon of left-leaning Whole Foods-type soccer moms, with right-leaning homeschooler conspiracy theorists trailing way behind. I've read in several places that the Bay Area is the epicenter of it.

It's not really partisan stupidity, it's just stupidity.

I think it depends on the location. Here in the south, the stupidity lies in the rightwing homeschoolers.

Ilmarinen		2012-12-04 04:49:55 PM

Millennium: Long story short: a thread on the Duggars losing a baby brings down the standard Fark-hate. Posts come in from an incensed Farker whose wife had lost a baby a few years ago, including a picture of the small memorial shadow-box (which contains, among other things, the remains). This post is confirmed real, and an unusually mean-spirited meme, even for Fark, is born.

...and I officially regret giving the troll a 9/10, knowing what I know now. Leave that meme in the past.

Oh come on. Even the one who posted the thing laughed at this.

iheartscotch		2012-12-04 04:50:14 PM

ChipNASA: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

This is Quinn's remains. He sits atop my piano. He was KILLED by vaccinations that the government forced on us. If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

Oh babyquarium;

You never had a chance as a meme.

Also; I thought that was not to be spoken of; because it was not to be spoken of.

/ but mostly because it is horrible;

SarcasticFark		2012-12-04 04:56:34 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie		2012-12-04 04:57:46 PM

So why did Congress hold hearings this week promoting crackpot antivax views?

Simple VOTES. Those politicians are smart enough to know to trust the scientists, and they probably believe them, but the scummy bastards will LIE because they really want the votes of of STUPID PEOPLE.

They don't give two shiats about children dying painfully of easily preventable diseases. The selfish bastards just want those obedient Oprah-watching herps and derps to go to the voting booth and push THEIR button, so that can sit in that comfortable chamber and collect all that PAC money, salary and pensions. And then get a cushy job when they retire.

Utterly contemptible scum.

jonas opines		2012-12-04 04:57:50 PM

freewill: jonas opines: WHY are people opposed to vaccines? And by "people" I'm not really asking about the sheepers who see something a celebrity said on the internet or a politician lies about during a speech and just fire up without actually fact-checking.

Well then, once you've excluded that group, there's really nobody opposed to vaccines left, so...

Seriously though, I have heard the argument put forth that because vaccines have all but stamped out certain diseases, the risk of side effects is supposedly higher than the risk of not being vaccinated, so it's safer for the child to avoid the vaccine than to get it, despite the fact that not getting it increases the risk of actually needing it.

/ Yeah, I know. It sounds dumb when you just spell it out like that. It needs to be coming from an emotional, overprotective suburban mother who insists that you, as a childless man, just can't understand.

Really, it's just misunderstandings and idiocy? Can you, for my sanity's sake, pretend there's some explicit special-interest or something behind it? Somebody, somewhere, should be getting something out of this. . . .

Millennium		2012-12-04 04:58:42 PM

jonas opines: What's behind the movement? Somewhere, someone HAS to know that they're making this crap up. What is the purpose? Is there a purpose? It doesn't make any sense!

The first antivaxers are dead, most likely; it's hard to remember sometimes that vaccines have been around for over 200 years.

This presents a problem, because the originators of the modern form of the antivax movement likely aren't just making this crap up. The ones who did that were their forebears: what the modern antivaxers are guilty of is confirmation bias, not wholesale fabrication. This is unfortunate, because it means you can't just expose them as frauds: they actually don't know they're wrong. Instead you have to disprove the hypothesis, which is a much harder task.

freewill		2012-12-04 05:00:05 PM

jonas opines: Really, it's just misunderstandings and idiocy? Can you, for my sanity's sake, pretend there's some explicit special-interest or something behind it? Somebody, somewhere, should be getting something out of this. . . .

Crackpot alternative medicine authors?

crabsno termites		2012-12-04 05:04:39 PM

CrazyCracka420: ChipNASA: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

[img214.imageshack.us image 648x484]

This is Quinn's remains. He sits atop my piano. He was KILLED by vaccinations that the government forced on us. If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

Which vaccine was it, pray tell?

I administerd the vaccine to Quinn - it was for the ghey's

meat0918		2012-12-04 05:06:40 PM

This needs to be repeated over and over and over again

Vaccines don't cause autism.

Matrix Flavored Wasabi		2012-12-04 05:07:22 PM

jonas opines: Okay, somebody help me out here, 'cuz I'm not getting it.

WHY are people opposed to vaccines? And by "people" I'm not really asking about the sheepers who see something a celebrity said on the internet or a politician lies about during a speech and just fire up without actually fact-checking. Those people are always there, and they're nothing if not predictable.

What's behind the movement? Somewhere, someone HAS to know that they're making this crap up. What is the purpose? Is there a purpose? It doesn't make any sense!

The guy that published his faulty research (which the journal later retracted) didn't like being wrong, so he took his message and shiatty research to dumb people

meat0918		2012-12-04 05:07:25 PM

you have pee hands: Because People in power are Stupid: Congress REPUBLICANS are making us sick.

Kucinich is one of them, too.

Yes, the anti-vaccine derp knows no political boundaries.

Begoggle		2012-12-04 05:11:47 PM

ChipNASA: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

[img214.imageshack.us image 648x484]

This is Quinn's remains. He sits atop my piano. He was KILLED by vaccinations that the government forced on us. If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

Usually I would rate you "meh" but you have outdone yourself on this one.
10/10, sir.

Because People in power are Stupid		2012-12-04 05:15:49 PM

Arkanaut: Because People in power are Stupid: Congress REPUBLICANS are making us sick.

Eh, TFA says Kucinich is also part of the anti-vax derp brigade.

/derpers gonna derp.

I watched the hearings on CSPAN. Kucinich was not leading the Derpmobile. The myths that he stated are easily disproven. Unlike the REPUBLICANS like Burton who took the lead in something that seemed like wordplay against CDC officials to get them to either 1) admit that vaccines cause autism or 2) perjure themselves.

Ilmarinen		2012-12-04 05:20:07 PM

Evil High Priest		2012-12-04 05:25:20 PM

hstein3: ghare: Arkanaut: Because People in power are Stupid: Congress REPUBLICANS are making us sick.

Eh, TFA says Kucinich is also part of the anti-vax derp brigade.

/derpers gonna derp.

Yeah, but Kucinich is gone, and anti-vax ain't on the Democratic platform. As opposed to wacko Republicans and their platform.

Anti-vaxx: Not part of the GOP platform. This is just the personal bugaboo of some crazy congressmen who happen to be GOP.

/Is preventing Guam from tipping over part of the Dem platform?

Look, you can mock the poor people of Guam all you like, but the fact remains their island is in grave danger of falling over into the sea. I can't believe how insensitive people are!

highendmighty		2012-12-04 05:34:01 PM

1. How can people be so stupid?
2. How can people be even stupider for electing the stupid into power?

I don't farking get it? Do people not read books, take science classes, log into Fark.com?

God help us.

meat0918		2012-12-04 05:38:24 PM

highendmighty: 1. How can people be so stupid?
2. How can people be even stupider for electing the stupid into power?

I don't farking get it? Do people not read books, take science classes, log into Fark.com?

God help us.

Well, this guy won because he's got an R next to his name and his district is probably pretty red from years of gerrymandering.

Kucinich was elected year after year because he had a D next to his name and his district was in deep Blue urban setting until his district was gerrymandered out of existence.

Actual positions don't matter so much as the letter next to your name and the district you are running in.

GhettoWinter		2012-12-04 05:38:56 PM

Paging QuinnsAshes to the thread.

Allen. The end.		2012-12-04 05:40:18 PM

ChipNASA: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

[img214.imageshack.us image 648x484]

This is Quinn's remains. He sits atop my piano. He was KILLED by vaccinations that the government forced on us. If it weren't for Obama and his healthcare reform, NONE of this would have happened.

Damn dude...you got a LOT o'bites! Better get vaccinated!

Noticeably F.A.T.		2012-12-04 05:40:29 PM

CrazyCracka420: A whole "thousands" of deaths a year? My god, call the wahmbulance.

The point it that most of those deaths are pretty easily preventable. Sure, the flu might only cause 0.0001%* deaths in the US, but with a very small amount of effort that number could be 0.000000001%*. So, why the f*ck aren't people putting forth that effort?

/*Yes, those numbers are pulled out of my ass. The point still stands.

This text is now purple		2012-12-04 05:44:03 PM

sweetmelissa31: The flu mutates so quickly that you can get vaccinated and still get it.

I've spread the flu to family members, then gotten it again on the rebound because it mutated enough that my own antibodies didn't work anymore!

the_immoral_minority		2012-12-04 05:44:38 PM

Comforting to know that at least child molesters drive REALLY slow through school zones....

oh ....and increasing spending is the way to decrease spending, I get it now

kieran57		2012-12-04 05:55:38 PM

CrazyCracka420: kieran57: CrazyCracka420: I could care less about the arguments back and forth about the flu vaccine causing autism (I don't believe it does personally from what I've seen). I abstain from getting a flu vaccine every year because I think it's retarded as fark to inject your body with a vaccine to a minor annoyance. Vaccines should be only for the life threatening or body crippling ailments, the stuff we got vaccines for as kids.

Just because they have a vaccine for a minor inconvenience, doesn't mean you should inject your body with it. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.

You are an idiot or a troll. The flu causes/contributes to thousands of deaths a year.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

A whole "thousands" of deaths a year? My god, call the wahmbulance.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of _motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by _year
Hey only 32k people died in automobile crashes in 2010. Which is near the number of flu deaths. I guess we should call the whambulance for them too huh? Only a few thousand.

Idiot.

BMFPitt		2012-12-04 06:06:38 PM

Any parents who don't get their kids vaccinated, short any valid and specific reason, should be treated like lepers.

That is all.

meat0918		2012-12-04 06:11:01 PM

kieran57: CrazyCracka420: kieran57: CrazyCracka420: I could care less about the arguments back and forth about the flu vaccine causing autism (I don't believe it does personally from what I've seen). I abstain from getting a flu vaccine every year because I think it's retarded as fark to inject your body with a vaccine to a minor annoyance. Vaccines should be only for the life threatening or body crippling ailments, the stuff we got vaccines for as kids.

Just because they have a vaccine for a minor inconvenience, doesn't mean you should inject your body with it. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.

You are an idiot or a troll. The flu causes/contributes to thousands of deaths a year.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

A whole "thousands" of deaths a year? My god, call the wahmbulance.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of _motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by _year
Hey only 32k people died in automobile crashes in 2010. Which is near the number of flu deaths. I guess we should call the whambulance for them too huh? Only a few thousand.

Idiot.

We did. Lots of safety features on cars these days.

Vaccines are like the airbags, seat belts, and crumple zones of your body's defense system. They won't stop you from dying if it is a severe enough incident, but on average, you'll be ok.

kg2095		2012-12-04 06:13:31 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Anti-Vaccine quackary? Well duh you can't really expect much out of Christians, and most congress critters are Christians. I mean anybody that believes in magic has an inherent bias against science, so of course they can't be counted on to think rationally about vaccines.

Here's a classic example of christian^* hatred of science: All Science Is Evil And From Satan.

Although I must admit some of the things posted on that board are so ludicrous that I wonder if it might be satire.

^*note the small c to distinguish from real followers of Christ.

Triumph		2012-12-04 06:13:48 PM

LINK

LINK

The Polio vaccine was once contaminated with monkey viruses because it was grown on monkey kidneys. The monkey virus SV40 causes cancer. 50 million people were potentially affected. Government has known about it and covered it up for 50 years

Kittypie070		2012-12-04 06:15:23 PM

CrazyCracka420: A whole "thousands" of deaths a year? My god, call the wahmbulance.

Dude.

What if one of those "thousands" was YOU?

Would you still be dismissing it so flippantly then?

GhettoWinter		2012-12-04 06:16:27 PM

kg2095: Slaves2Darkness: Anti-Vaccine quackary? Well duh you can't really expect much out of Christians, and most congress critters are Christians. I mean anybody that believes in magic has an inherent bias against science, so of course they can't be counted on to think rationally about vaccines.

Here's a classic example of christian* hatred of science: All Science Is Evil And From Satan.

Although I must admit some of the things posted on that board are so ludicrous that I wonder if it might be satire.

*note the small c to distinguish from real followers of Christ.

This has to be satire... Poe's law in full effect.

meat0918		2012-12-04 06:17:02 PM

kg2095		2012-12-04 06:17:25 PM

CrazyCracka420: I could care less about the arguments back and forth about the flu vaccine causing autism (I don't believe it does personally from what I've seen). I abstain from getting a flu vaccine every year because I think it's retarded as fark to inject your body with a vaccine to a minor annoyance. Vaccines should be only for the life threatening or body crippling ailments, the stuff we got vaccines for as kids.

Just because they have a vaccine for a minor inconvenience, doesn't mean you should inject your body with it. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.

Teen's death shows how flu can kill in a flash

meat0918		2012-12-04 06:17:38 PM

Wonder no more

Link

bim1154		2012-12-04 06:20:21 PM

kg2095		2012-12-04 06:22:27 PM

piledhigheranddeeper: tboucher: Because People in power are Stupid: Congress REPUBLICANS are making us sick.

no, Kucinich isn't a republican, this is an equal opportunity idiot thing. You just need to be upper middle class to believe this shiat apparently.

Vaccines are a good moneymaker for special interests. I would think that Republicans would be in the minority for this cause.

/ProVacc

I think their desire to discredit science is overriding their desire to champion big business.

kg2095		2012-12-04 06:26:11 PM

hstein3: Slaves2Darkness: Anti-Vaccine quackary? Well duh you can't really expect much out of Christians, and most congress critters are Christians. I mean anybody that believes in magic has an inherent bias against science, so of course they can't be counted on to think rationally about vaccines.

This craziness isn't really restricted by religion or political party.

I'd be willing to bet that it's slanted to science hating bible thumpers who believe the Earth was created in 6 days. All of them are authoritarians which almost always equates to Republicans.

ModernLuddite		2012-12-04 06:55:50 PM

Does power lead to the kind of ego that causes you to exert your crazy beliefs on people, or is it the ego that drives you to power so you can exert your crazy beliefs on people?

Is there any way to force a modicum of humility on these farks?

fluffy2097		2012-12-04 07:01:58 PM

We need a good plague anyways to remind people how farking good we have it right now.

I think a massive whooping cough outbreak would be great. It'd kill tons of babies and people with compromised immune systems, while not killing healthy adults.

Antivaxxers would be brought up on criminal charges. Vaccines would become mandatory, and herd immunity would be restored.

/shame we have to kill some people to make it happen but there is no other way to get it done.

ChipNASA		2012-12-04 07:06:18 PM

SarcasticFark: bast

JUST TO REPEAT!!!!

It's Ed Grubermann 's fault. He reminded me of this when he posted the Baby in the SkyMall thread.

Ed Grubermann HATES BABBIES

LoneWolf343		2012-12-04 07:18:33 PM

highendmighty: 1. How can people be so stupid?
2. How can people be even stupider for electing the stupid into power?

I don't farking get it? Do people not read books, take science classes, log into Fark.com?

God help us.

Not really, no.