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(Gawker)   The NY Post, not one of the classiest papers, stoops to a new low, takes a picture of a man about to be killed by an oncoming train rather than help. Fark: Posts image on front page   (gawker.com) divider line 364
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2012-12-04 03:45:22 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: depends on how fast the train went by


Time enough to snap multiple pictures, sounds like.
 
2012-12-04 03:46:23 PM
Well, at least the NYP didn't accuse people of necrophilia, like Murdoch's The Sun did after the soccer stampede in Liverpool in the 1980s, so not a total low.
 
2012-12-04 03:48:06 PM

super_grass: Actually, Anderson did help out as well as report. Got anything else in you bag of derp?

But he didn't choose to spend ALL his time helping, nor did he pick up rifles when he was at Afghanistan or Iraq, nor did the cameramen.

Wouldn't that be wrong according to your "logic"?


You apparently can't grasp logic if you equate reporting in a war zone to standing like a dumbass and watching a guy die so you can get a good photo.
 
2012-12-04 03:49:08 PM

I should be in the kitchen: dickfreckle: Abbasi claims that he was using his camera's flash to warn the train's conductor, possibly suggesting that the photos were incidental. The Post further defends Abbasi, saying he wasn't strong enough to lift Han off the tracks.

Tourists take pictures of trains all the time, so don't hand me this BS about a camera flash being a warning. But let's say, for the sake of argument, that the pictures really were incidental.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PUBLISH THEM

On the front page, no less. :-(

That's what bothers me the most. Well, that and the fact that the photog sold/gave the images to the paper. If I accidentally captured something like that, I'd first see if they'd be helpful to police or the transit authority and then delete the damn things. And probably burn the memory card... I'd feel just awful. I feel bad just thinking about it.


That is because you are a decent human being, unlike the savages at the Post.
 
2012-12-04 03:49:32 PM

cryinoutloud: inner ted: aww, make you sad?
or are you here to prattle on about how the poor photographer was helpless to do anything (except take photos and make $$)
please, do go on. it's intriguing

He's dead now, long before his time, and he died a tormented man. That's not good enough for you? I don't think you're the guy to be making judgments about anyone else's character.


no, that's about level. though to be honest, i'm not sure what the going rate on profiting from horror is.

i don't think you're the guy to be making judgements about me judging anyone else's character.
 
2012-12-04 03:50:59 PM

b3x: Not impressed
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 654x821]


Awesome. Cannot wait for this mini series/movie/whatever the hell they're doing now.
 
2012-12-04 03:51:19 PM
I'm not sure those nooks have enough clearance to actually squeeze in to without getting fried by the third rail.
 
2012-12-04 03:52:31 PM

inner ted: The Larch: Look at how stupid you are.

aww, make you sad?


Well, yes. When you put it that way, I am sad that you're so stupid.
 
2012-12-04 03:54:41 PM
Marky Mark would have kept 9/11 from happening if he had been on one of those planes.
 
2012-12-04 03:55:20 PM

TommyymmoT: Was it that guy's first day riding the subway?
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 448x284]
STAND BETWEEN THE BEAMS UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS PASSED.
I was taught that when I was 6 years old.

See these nooks?
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]
That's why they exist as well. 

And if you don't know enough not to touch the 3rd rail, maybe you should be living in Arkansas.


I'd be too terrified to touch the 3rd rail to walk over to those "safety" areas. And not too many of the platforms even have those.And by the way, I've asked a few people to guess which rail the "third rail" was and most of the time they had it wrong (it's hard to pick out if you don't know what you are looking for)

I've always heard you lay flat on the lowest part of the rails and let the train pass over you.
 
2012-12-04 03:57:14 PM

Daniels: I'm not sure those nooks have enough clearance to actually squeeze in to without getting fried by the third rail.


And, there's a drainage gutter between the tracks on both of Tommy Palndrome's photos, which isn't near the third rail, and whic does have enough space for a normal-sized person to fit into. You still have to worry about hose couplings and chains bouncing off your head, but if you're lucky you'll come out with nothing worse than a bath in fetid water. Which you'll actually appreciate, because it will mask the smell of the fresh poo load in your trousers.
 
2012-12-04 03:58:13 PM
I was standing on the 72nd. 2 train platform a year or two ago when I saw a woman jump down on the tracks to retrieve her sons hat. She then found the platform came up to her shoulders and found this the funniest thing. No shiat she was standing in the path of the express train and laughing. It was the only time in my life I can say I literally could not believe what I was seeing.

She was pretty short and fat but it was not too difficult to pull her back up. I'm big but hardly a prime physical specimen.
 
2012-12-04 03:58:41 PM
I am a New Yorker. Of course I'd heard about the incident, but I was utterly disgusted when an hour ago I went into the kiosk nearby and the Post was staring me in the face. I get that he was still alive and therefore there wasn't any actual gore in the image, but did it really need to be on the front page?! Knowing was was about to happen to him, having the headline reinforce exactly what was about to happen to him -- it is sickening.

I don't choose to read the Post for a reason. I don't need it to jump out at me and turn my stomach.
 
2012-12-04 03:59:05 PM
Send the Post back to Israel.
 
2012-12-04 03:59:37 PM

sigdiamond2000: I would rather pour molten copper down my pants than set foot on a big city public transportation platform.


Yep, millions of people die on public transportation every day.
 
2012-12-04 03:59:42 PM
Reminds me of the old photographer joke:

If a man was about to be hit by a speeding train and you had the choice to save him or take an epic photo, what aperture would you use?
 
2012-12-04 04:00:24 PM

dotvincent: I don't choose to read the Post for a reason. I don't need it to jump out at me and turn my stomach.


I've been to 3 stores today and not one was selling the Post.

I wonder if they were pulled by the Post, pulled by the store owners, or sold out.

/pleasedontsaysoldout pleasedontsaysoldout
 
2012-12-04 04:00:38 PM

The Larch: TommyymmoT: Was it that guy's first day riding the subway?
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 448x284]
STAND BETWEEN THE BEAMS UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS PASSED.
I was taught that when I was 6 years old.

See these nooks?
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]
That's why they exist as well. 

And if you don't know enough not to touch the 3rd rail, maybe you should be living in Arkansas.

Just admit it... you have absolutely no clue where the third rail is in those photographs, do you? You're not even entirely sure what the third rail is, or why you're not supposed to touch it. Maybe it's covered in poison ivy or something?

Anyhow, for the rest of you, never never never follow Tommy Palindrome's advice here. The third rail is that big steel bar that's jammed right up against those alcoves that he points out, and would be sending 600 volts and hundreds of amps of electricity through your legs the second you brushed up against it trying to wedge yourself into one of those holes.

=========

I think if you were really ambitious, went back to school, and studied really hard, you could some day be an imbecile.

I've seen track workers do it more than once.

I've had friends and relatives that worked for the MTA, as well as Amtrak, and Conrail.
What I said to do, is something MTA employees do several of times per day.
That big steel bar, has a wooden guardrail over it, and the train's "hot shoe" glides above it.
The electricity doesn't just jump out and grab you whenever it's in a mischievous mood.


/side note
Even Amtrak, and freight trains operate on electricity. Their diesel engines exist only to power the generator that supplies the electric motor that turns the drive wheels.
If you've ever taken a train into NYC, you would notice that when they approach the roughly last 12 miles, (mostly in tunnels) they turn the diesel engine off, the train's "hot shoe" flips down, and the train's motor not engine is then powered by the "hot rail".
 
2012-12-04 04:01:27 PM

Surool: super_grass: Actually, Anderson did help out as well as report. Got anything else in you bag of derp?

But he didn't choose to spend ALL his time helping, nor did he pick up rifles when he was at Afghanistan or Iraq, nor did the cameramen.

Wouldn't that be wrong according to your "logic"?

You apparently can't grasp logic if you equate reporting in a war zone to standing like a dumbass and watching a guy die so you can get a good photo.


You apparently can't grasp that sometimes there's nothing a photographer could do but take pictures when a train might kill him and the person on the track had he chose run towards it, and that he is probably neither the only person there, nor the closest person to the track.

But what matters here isn't that there are those who would push people onto the subway tracks, or that there weren't places where man could reach safety, or that the amount of risk any would-be rescuers would face.

What matters here it's that a photographer would have the audacity to take pictures of an extraordinary event and get recognition, and that *gasp* money would be exchanged. You don't care about the life lost and how we can prevent it without risking two lives, you care about your own superiority and how you would have heroically saved a man despite never actually being in that situation or near where it happened.
 
2012-12-04 04:02:17 PM

gweilo8888: The New York Post and this photographer are absolutely contemptible trash, and their excuses about warning the photographer with a flash and being unable to help pull the guy up reek of bullshiat.


Did you ever stop to think that the photographer may have been shooting with a long lens and was too far away to do anything? And what about others on the platform? Someone supposedly pushed the man onto the tracks. There must have been people around. Why didn't someone do something? This story is from the NY Post and further sensationalized by Gawker. You're supposed to roll your eyes and move on. Because in all probability, the event never occurred. Rather, someone snapped a shot of a subway worker doing something on the tracks in front of a stopped train is more likely.
 
2012-12-04 04:04:31 PM

super_grass: You apparently can't grasp that sometimes there's nothing a photographer could do but take pictures when a train might kill him and the person on the track had he chose run towards it, and that he is probably neither the only person there, nor the closest person to the track


You paint a wonderful defense for a photographer who won't f*ck you.

You weren't there and your assessment of the odds and outcomes are laughable. At least you are admitting he didn't even try now. Keep making up new stuff and maybe you can justify his actions in your mind.
 
2012-12-04 04:04:50 PM
Lately, I've been doing some old school gaming, and Syphon Filter has been my game of choice for the past few days.

Last night, I got stuck on a level where my dude kept getting hit by a subway train.

Then I had a dream about being stuck in a subway.

Scared the crap out of me. Now, this story is giving me the creeps.
 
2012-12-04 04:06:12 PM

LineNoise: Last I saw the numbers, the average number of people KILLED by the subway is a little more than one a week


[citation needed]
 
2012-12-04 04:07:01 PM

TommyymmoT: Even Amtrak, and freight trains operate on electricity. Their diesel engines exist only to power the generator that supplies the electric motor that turns the drive wheels.
If you've ever taken a train into NYC, you would notice that when they approach the roughly last 12 miles, (mostly in tunnels) they turn the diesel engine off, the train's "hot shoe" flips down, and the train's motor not engine is then powered by the "hot rail".


images.cdn.autocar.co.uk

It's the greatest diesel-electric car ..... in the world
 
2012-12-04 04:07:34 PM

JackieRabbit: gweilo8888: The New York Post and this photographer are absolutely contemptible trash, and their excuses about warning the photographer with a flash and being unable to help pull the guy up reek of bullshiat.

Did you ever stop to think that the photographer may have been shooting with a long lens and was too far away to do anything? And what about others on the platform? Someone supposedly pushed the man onto the tracks. There must have been people around. Why didn't someone do something? This story is from the NY Post and further sensationalized by Gawker. You're supposed to roll your eyes and move on. Because in all probability, the event never occurred. Rather, someone snapped a shot of a subway worker doing something on the tracks in front of a stopped train is more likely.


Except, you know, all the other news agencies reporting his death, and NOT splashing their front pages of said impending doom
 
2012-12-04 04:07:55 PM

Surool: You weren't there and your assessment of the odds and outcomes are laughable. At least you are admitting he didn't even try now. Keep making up new stuff and maybe you can justify his actions in your mind.


You're upset at a photographer because he didn't stop a civil war that killed two million people?
 
2012-12-04 04:07:57 PM

boozehat: wasn't this how Seinfeld ended pretty much?


The Charlie Sheen Era of 2.5 Men
 
2012-12-04 04:08:21 PM

The Larch: inner ted: The Larch: Look at how stupid you are.

aww, make you sad?

Well, yes. When you put it that way, I am sad that you're so stupid.


your smack is as weak as your takes

try harder or go home
 
2012-12-04 04:09:00 PM

The Larch: Surool: You weren't there and your assessment of the odds and outcomes are laughable. At least you are admitting he didn't even try now. Keep making up new stuff and maybe you can justify his actions in your mind.

You're upset at a photographer because he didn't stop a civil war that killed two million people?


Put down the bong.
 
2012-12-04 04:09:38 PM

Surool: super_grass: You apparently can't grasp that sometimes there's nothing a photographer could do but take pictures when a train might kill him and the person on the track had he chose run towards it, and that he is probably neither the only person there, nor the closest person to the track

You paint a wonderful defense for a photographer who won't f*ck you.

You weren't there and your assessment of the odds and outcomes are laughable. At least you are admitting he didn't even try now. Keep making up new stuff and maybe you can justify his actions in your mind.


And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Hey, maybe there's a kill switch that he could have pulled to stop the train, and that makes him a monster, right?

You're the one judging, I'm the one saying that you don't know shiat about all the details. Get off your high horse.
 
2012-12-04 04:11:00 PM

TommyymmoT: Was it that guy's first day riding the subway?
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 448x284]
STAND BETWEEN THE BEAMS UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS PASSED.
I was taught that when I was 6 years old.

See these nooks?
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]
That's why they exist as well. 

And if you don't know enough not to touch the 3rd rail, maybe you should be living in Arkansas.


My guess is the third rail is the one that is elevated higher than the others in both photos. In the first photo, i might be able to step over it without touching it, but there are more rails between the beams and if there is a third rail there too, I may accidentally touch it. Of course, the odds are higher than desired i accidentally touch the third rail here.

In the second picture, the odds are very high i touch the third rail trying to jump into the nook, if that is indeed the third rail blocking the entrance to the nook.
 
2012-12-04 04:12:14 PM

super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?


Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.
 
2012-12-04 04:13:42 PM

Surool: The Larch: Surool: You weren't there and your assessment of the odds and outcomes are laughable. At least you are admitting he didn't even try now. Keep making up new stuff and maybe you can justify his actions in your mind.

You're upset at a photographer because he didn't stop a civil war that killed two million people?

Put down the bong.


OK, help me out. Explain to me what you meant. The photographer was traveling with a UN food drop program. By most accounts, the children were milling about while their mothers collected food for their family when he took this photo. What, exactly, did you expect him to do? Feed that one kid? Stick around and help the kid's mother cook the food she received from the UN? Pick up a gun and go kill the people who were using food as a weapon during the civil war? Use his magic powers to go back in time and stop the war from starting in the first place? Seriously, what the hell do you think one person with a camera can do against the death of millions?
 
2012-12-04 04:13:52 PM

Lollipop165: I'd be too terrified to touch the 3rd rail to walk over to those "safety" areas. And not too many of the platforms even have those.And by the way, I've asked a few people to guess which rail the "third rail" was and most of the time they had it wrong (it's hard to pick out if you don't know what you are looking for)

I've always heard you lay flat on the lowest part of the rails and let the train pass over you.


The trench is a fairly safe bet, if you don't want to jump into a clear zone (either between the columns, or if its a solid-wall platform, there are often safety niches in the walls. In areas where there is no such clear zone, there will be markings saying as such (usually red and white stripes on the wall), so your only bet is to lay down in the trench.

If you do make it to a clear standing area, brace for the wind as the train passes by, and close you eyes so you dont get dizzy or disoriented.
 
2012-12-04 04:14:32 PM

Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.


If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.
 
2012-12-04 04:15:13 PM

The Larch: TommyymmoT: Was it that guy's first day riding the subway?
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 448x284]
STAND BETWEEN THE BEAMS UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS PASSED.
I was taught that when I was 6 years old.

See these nooks?
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]
That's why they exist as well. 

And if you don't know enough not to touch the 3rd rail, maybe you should be living in Arkansas.

Just admit it... you have absolutely no clue where the third rail is in those photographs, do you? You're not even entirely sure what the third rail is, or why you're not supposed to touch it. Maybe it's covered in poison ivy or something?

Anyhow, for the rest of you, never never never follow Tommy Palindrome's advice here. The third rail is that big steel bar that's jammed right up against those alcoves that he points out, and would be sending 600 volts and hundreds of amps of electricity through your legs the second you brushed up against it trying to wedge yourself into one of those holes.


Tommy is correct. The alcoves are there to stand in and allow the train to pass. MTA workers do it every day.

Also, you would have to be pretty uncoordinated to step in the third rail.

That said running away from the train is foolish because you would never make it far without tripping on the ties.

None of that matters in this station because the train does not run against a wall. There is lots of space between the local and express tracks. That's your best option.
 
2012-12-04 04:16:35 PM

Daniels: I'm not sure those nooks have enough clearance to actually squeeze in to without getting fried by the third rail.


they have the clearance. The red and white striping on the wall means you cant stand there. the nooks, without that striping, means it is clear. They are there specifically for such use. workers will also sometimes duck in to them if they are working on an active line doing minor work.
 
2012-12-04 04:18:57 PM

SlothB77: TommyymmoT: Was it that guy's first day riding the subway?
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 448x284]
STAND BETWEEN THE BEAMS UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS PASSED.
I was taught that when I was 6 years old.

See these nooks?
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]
That's why they exist as well. 

And if you don't know enough not to touch the 3rd rail, maybe you should be living in Arkansas.

My guess is the third rail is the one that is elevated higher than the others in both photos. In the first photo, i might be able to step over it without touching it, but there are more rails between the beams and if there is a third rail there too, I may accidentally touch it. Of course, the odds are higher than desired i accidentally touch the third rail here.

In the second picture, the odds are very high i touch the third rail trying to jump into the nook, if that is indeed the third rail blocking the entrance to the nook.


You are correct. But if you're not sure which one is hot, don't touch ANY of the rails.
Actually, there is something like 6 inches between the hot rail and the wall, and clearance in the alcoves is somewhere around 18 inches.

Besides, what's the alternative? Get hit?
 
2012-12-04 04:20:15 PM

super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.


There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?
 
2012-12-04 04:20:48 PM
I remember back in the day when Buddhist Monks were setting themselves on fire for some protest.
The photographers would watch them douse themselves with gasoline and then light the match which took several minutes
Not once did they try and stop them, their thought was they were only there to document the event.

blog.alexgalmeanu.com
 
2012-12-04 04:22:32 PM

Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.

There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?


I'm pointing out all the holes in your accusations yet you respond by calling me butthurt.

Did you finally run out of things to say and resort to insults?
 
2012-12-04 04:22:39 PM

Scoop84: LineNoise: Last I saw the numbers, the average number of people KILLED by the subway is a little more than one a week

[citation needed]


im no wiki article, but it is very, very common. When someone is pushed, it makes the news. when someone decides his only option in life is to kiss a train, it is often not covered.

I have a friend is a medic. he has seen plenty of people smashed or cut in half. The worst is when someone gets pinned between the train and the platform, because while they have just been cut in half, they might still be alive. the fact that they are pinned in acts as a tourniquet. However, there is still nothing that they can do. Once they pull the train away, the pressure comes off, and their guts basically spill out. Then death is quick. All they can do before that is give them some pain medicine and ask them, if they are conscious, if they want them to tell anyone anything. The really messy ones are when it happens on an elevated train. the tracks are open to the street below. messy rain.
 
2012-12-04 04:25:04 PM

super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.

There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?

I'm pointing out all the holes in your accusations yet you respond by calling me butthurt.

Did you finally run out of things to say and resort to insults?


You aren't posting anything substantive to respond to. "You did nothing about an incident you didn't witness" doesn't seem like an intelligent argument to me.
 
2012-12-04 04:25:47 PM
The other rule of urban living is not to talk to the crazy guy. Usually its the one cursing fairly loudly and nonstop. That should probably be pretty obvious. The years of living near downtown SF made that pretty clear to me.

There is zero to be gained by talking to them. I have no idea why this poor guy thought it would be a good idea to approach this person.
 
2012-12-04 04:26:18 PM

Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.

There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?

I'm pointing out all the holes in your accusations yet you respond by calling me butthurt.

Did you finally run out of things to say and resort to insults?

You aren't posting anything substantive to respond to. "You did nothing about an incident you didn't witness" doesn't seem like an intelligent argument to me.


You said you had a first-hand experience of what happened, did you not?
 
2012-12-04 04:27:36 PM

super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.

There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?

I'm pointing out all the holes in your accusations yet you respond by calling me butthurt.

Did you finally run out of things to say and resort to insults?

You aren't posting anything substantive to respond to. "You did nothing about an incident you didn't witness" doesn't seem like an intelligent argument to me.

You said you had a first-hand experience of what happened, did you not?


Where did I say that?
 
2012-12-04 04:29:19 PM

TommyymmoT: ...
I think if you were really ambitious, went back to school, and studied really hard, you could some day be an imbecile.

I've seen track workers do it more than once.

I've had friends and relatives that worked for the MTA, as well as Amtrak, and Conrail.
What I said to do, is something MTA employees do several of times per day.
That big steel bar, has a wooden guardrail over it, and the train's "hot shoe" glides above it.
The electricity doesn't just jump out and grab you whenever it's in a mischievous mood.

Studying your photos, and my recollection of the MTA in general, I'm going to have to agree that getting over that 3rd rail unharmed is unlikely. My uncle is an MTA worker and when they do it the rails are not energized. Also, he told me that they never trust that wooden/plastic/metal guard over the third rail to A) not be energized (short) or B) hold their weight.

But I gave you the benefit of the doubt, until you lost me at:

/side note
Even Amtrak, and freight trains operate on electricity. Their diesel engines exist only to power the generator that supplies the electric motor that turns the drive wheels.
If you've ever taken a train into NYC, you would notice that when they approach the roughly last 12 miles, (mostly in tunnels) they turn the diesel engine off, the train's "hot shoe" flips down, and the train's motor not engine is then powered by the "hot rail".


Amtrak trains do not have diesel locomotives in the NE corridor, nor to they have shoes/paddles. They are powered by overhead catenary to which the train connects with the pantograph.

Admittedly I don't have any better advice that lay down between the rails, lay under the platform, or run your ass off.
 
2012-12-04 04:29:39 PM

TommyymmoT: nook


Many modern stations now put the escape place right under the platform edge with signs that actually guide people into them. I guess this would take some construction effort, but geez, no more of this nonsense.
 
2012-12-04 04:31:51 PM

Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: Surool: super_grass: And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?

Yes, as even you've agreed to, he did nothing to help. Didn't even flinch away from his perfect shot of a man about to die. Done and Done.

If you had first hand experience and you didn't try to help, then your are just as much of a scumbag as the photographer.

Actually, you're an even bigger piece of shiat, because you're criticizing him for his inaction while doing nothing about it yourself.

There's no need to be so butthurt, little camper. Why not stick to what is here instead of making up fairy tales to bolster your argument?

I'm pointing out all the holes in your accusations yet you respond by calling me butthurt.

Did you finally run out of things to say and resort to insults?

You aren't posting anything substantive to respond to. "You did nothing about an incident you didn't witness" doesn't seem like an intelligent argument to me.

You said you had a first-hand experience of what happened, did you not?

Where did I say that?


"And you have absolute knowledge of what happened first hand and the photographer's negligence?"

"Yes, as even you've agreed to"
 
2012-12-04 04:32:42 PM

teeny: Walker: Joe Peanut: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 722x457]

That photographer eventually committed suicide.

Came here to say this. He was racked by guilt...as he should have been. Just because you are a photographer doesn't mean you stop being a human being. Although some would disagree...especially about paparazzi.

Now I feel even more like a shiat for laughing. It's just disturbing that the media would so hungrily jump on such a photo. I imagined the picture of the vulture and the starving boy with the headline, "THIS CHILD IS ABOUT TO DIE!" and the inappropriateness of it got me giggling.

/I'm a douche


Yes. Yes you are.
 
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