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(Gawker)   The NY Post, not one of the classiest papers, stoops to a new low, takes a picture of a man about to be killed by an oncoming train rather than help. Fark: Posts image on front page   (gawker.com ) divider line
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2012-12-04 01:49:07 PM  
Have a look at the comments.

Link
 
2012-12-04 01:49:48 PM  
I don't have any problem with it. Our news is sanitized to the point of being kid friendly.
 
2012-12-04 01:50:08 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Cythraul: Gulper Eel: Did none of you notice the quote:

"People were shouting and yelling when it happened, but then people ran the other way"

...but yeah, the photographer's the bad guy for not saving the day. Pay no heed to the dozens of other people on the platform who did nothing but panic and run away.

Kitty Genovese has some company now.

In order to troll, are you intentionally ignoring the fact that the photographer is rewarding himself with personal gain from his photographs? It's one thing to not help. It's another to take a farking picture to hand over to your employer for a pat on the back.

Well, whoever is most to blame, I'm sure we can all agree on one thing: New York City is the greatest city in the world.


New York New York isn't everything they say
There's no place I'd rather be
Where else can you see a man hit by a train
All at a quarter to three?
 
2012-12-04 01:50:27 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I would rather pour molten copper down my pants than set foot on a big city public transportation platform.


That's funny, I was just thinking that I would rather set foot on a big city public transportation platform rather than pour molten copper down my pants. To each his own I guess.
 
2012-12-04 01:50:40 PM  
So this is why they call it "Gawker." No, wait, it's perfectly fine for them to republish the photo for the noble and totally non-voyeuristic purpose of allowing us to register our moral outrage.

/fark both them and the Post
 
2012-12-04 01:51:26 PM  

had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.


Ummmmmm wow.

If there were even TWO decent humans on the platform they would have grabbed the poor guys arms and pulled.
 
2012-12-04 01:52:31 PM  

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 722x457]


OMG I'm going straight to hell for laughing at that. I'm still giggling like a idiot,
 
2012-12-04 01:52:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I thought this only happened in Stephen King novels. There's some really sick farks out there.


It happens every so often -- either somebody tries to commit suicide by jumping in front of a train or some crazy person pushes a bystander into the path of an oncoming train. When I started 7th grade I had to take the subway to school, and probably within the same month there were two stories about people who fell into the tracks -- one was pushed by a deranged person, and another was a high schooler who passed out for some reason while waiting on the platform. Parents got real scared after that. I also remember a couple years back there was a guy who was literally cut in half when he fell in front of a 7 train -- apparently he got into a fight with an acquaintance and either fell or was pushed into the oncoming train.

/so... yeah.
 
2012-12-04 01:52:56 PM  

under a mountain: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x391]

They also published this.


But that's okay because villain's NEED to be dehumanized.
 
2012-12-04 01:53:50 PM  

had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.


Unless you were incredibly strong, like a weightlifter, I don't think many people would be able to lift a grown person up out of a hole like that. From the comments on HuffPo, sounds like many of the people think he could have saved himself if he'd gotten to a certain place. But there was probably no way to just run over there and rescue him in the few seconds before the train ran him down.

/Don't know, don't live around subways.
 
2012-12-04 01:54:15 PM  
The NYP is a hardcore Teahadist rag that preaches Randoidism......money trumps(no pun intended) all..........to "high rollers" most of whom have a net worth that rises into the low five figures.
 
2012-12-04 01:54:19 PM  
TRYING TO SAVE HIM WOULD HAVE DONE NO GOOD.....
/he's have just jumped again an hour or two later.
 
2012-12-04 01:54:37 PM  

dickfreckle: Abbasi claims that he was using his camera's flash to warn the train's conductor, possibly suggesting that the photos were incidental. The Post further defends Abbasi, saying he wasn't strong enough to lift Han off the tracks.

Tourists take pictures of trains all the time, so don't hand me this BS about a camera flash being a warning. But let's say, for the sake of argument, that the pictures really were incidental.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PUBLISH THEM


On the front page, no less. :-(

That's what bothers me the most. Well, that and the fact that the photog sold/gave the images to the paper. If I accidentally captured something like that, I'd first see if they'd be helpful to police or the transit authority and then delete the damn things. And probably burn the memory card... I'd feel just awful. I feel bad just thinking about it.
 
2012-12-04 01:55:17 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I would rather pour molten copper down my pants than set foot on a big city public transportation platform.

farkingismybusiness: [www.shadowlocked.com image 500x277]
What a drag.


best part of an otherwise so/so movie, that dude was great
 
2012-12-04 01:55:42 PM  
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

Gawker steals shocking content and repackages it for page views.
 
2012-12-04 01:55:43 PM  

offmymeds: Have a look at the comments.

Link


That commenters felt it was a great opportunity to mock Costas' gun control monologue is probably the saddest fact of all.
 
2012-12-04 01:55:46 PM  

SphericalTime: sigdiamond2000: I would rather pour molten copper down my pants than set foot on a big city public transportation platform.

. . . okay. That's weird.


or hot......depending on how you look at it.
 
2012-12-04 01:56:31 PM  
The viral marketing for Anna Karenina is getting out of hand

/window seat
 
2012-12-04 01:57:10 PM  

jshine: From what I've seen (though not in NYC), subway platforms usually overhang a lot and have the 3rd-rail moved to the opposite side specifically so that if someone falls onto the tracks, he/she can roll under the platform and have enough clearance to avoid being hit by the train. If the guy had rolled under the platform rather than trying to crawl out right away, he might have lived -- though maybe not, I don't know how those platforms are designed.


What you are supposed to do is run in the opposite direction of the train. If you don't have time to do that, its lay in the troth between the tracks.

Last I saw the numbers, the average number of people KILLED by the subway is a little more than one a week, and a conductor has around even odds of hitting someone in their career. Not that I have a problem with the subway, but I always chuckle at the thought that if it was a ride in an amusement park, there is no way it would be allowed to operate.
 
2012-12-04 01:57:32 PM  
This is exactly why I never stand close to the platform edge while waiting for the train.
 
2012-12-04 01:57:52 PM  
IF IT BLEEDS, IT LEADS
 
2012-12-04 01:58:12 PM  
That's low, man. I wonder if the photographer can be held liable for negligent homicide.

If you can't help the guy get out, you point him toward the ladder or under the platform or between the tracks or something. Or maybe you even just stand there like a lump; falling into shock from seeing a situation like this and being stunned by it, while not the most savory of stories, is still well within the realm of plausibility. What you don't do is whip out your freaking camera for Ye Big Cash-In.
 
2012-12-04 01:58:31 PM  
The Post often clutches its pearls at the demise of family values in its editorial page (especially when it relates to Obama and gay rights), but somehow, they always seem to put obscenity on the front page.

The losers in Queens and Staten Island eat it up though.
 
b3x
2012-12-04 01:59:47 PM  
Not impressed
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-04 01:59:55 PM  
I am shocked that the New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, has demonstrated a lack of ethics or even simple human decency, but instead chose to exploit a person's death.

Shocked.
 
2012-12-04 01:59:56 PM  
Even if he wasn't strong enough to help him up, he could have told him to run down the tube in the same direction the train was going. Train would have stopped in the station and given him enough time to get rescued.

Sickened by all of this.

No one helped this guy. Let's not act like he was some giant guy - it was a middle-aged Asian dude. From the pictures I saw, he was barely 150 pounds.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:14 PM  
Hmm, this reminds me that I need to put an ad for a free cat in the Post's classified section.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:19 PM  

cryinoutloud: had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.

Unless you were incredibly strong, like a weightlifter, I don't think many people would be able to lift a grown person up out of a hole like that. From the comments on HuffPo, sounds like many of the people think he could have saved himself if he'd gotten to a certain place. But there was probably no way to just run over there and rescue him in the few seconds before the train ran him down.

/Don't know, don't live around subways.


Yup. Lifting 200 lbs like that is pretty hard for the average person. You'd need three people minimum to get him up quickly.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:25 PM  
dickfreckle: Abbasi claims that he was using his camera's flash to warn the train's conductor, possibly suggesting that the photos were incidental. The Post further defends Abbasi, saying he wasn't strong enough to lift Han off the tracks.

Tourists take pictures of trains all the time, so don't hand me this BS about a camera flash being a warning. But let's say, for the sake of argument, that the pictures really were incidental.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PUBLISH THEM


Actually while it is legal to take pictures, (and a few years back, the MTA had attempted to ban even this), it is not legal to use a flash. And yes, they didn't have to publish it, but we are talking about the print version of FOX-news here.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:27 PM  

cryinoutloud: had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.

Unless you were incredibly strong, like a weightlifter, I don't think many people would be able to lift a grown person up out of a hole like that. From the comments on HuffPo, sounds like many of the people think he could have saved himself if he'd gotten to a certain place. But there was probably no way to just run over there and rescue him in the few seconds before the train ran him down.

/Don't know, don't live around subways.


I think a normal man could lift someone out of there, presumably they would be helping you out a bit and not total dead weight. But if it all happened too fast that's another story...
 
2012-12-04 02:00:30 PM  
Bad on the Post for putting this on their front page -- almost certainly to make a buck.

On the other hand, there might be one or two people who look at that picture, give some thought to what they'd do if it happened to them, and end up surviving (by dropping down between the tracks) when it *does* happen to them.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:50 PM  
wasn't this how Seinfeld ended pretty much?
 
2012-12-04 02:00:58 PM  
Traditional media may be shiat, but blogs and aggregators like Gawker and Fark are the flies and roaches that feed off it.

If that pic is so distasteful, why do you keep giving it the attention it craves?
 
2012-12-04 02:01:07 PM  
New York's alright, New York's alright
New York's alright if you like saxophones
New York's alright if you wanna get pushed in front of the subway
New York's alright if you like tuberculosis
New York's alright if you like art and jazz
New York's alright if you're a homosexual
New york's alright, New York's alright
New York's alright if you like saxophones
New York's alright if you like drunks in your doorway
New York's alright if you wanna freeze to death
New York's alright if you wanna get mugged or murdered
New York's alright if you like saxophones
New York's alright, New York's alright
New York's alright if you like saxophones
 
2012-12-04 02:01:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I thought this only happened in Stephen King novels. There's some really sick farks out there.

This was also the plot of an episode of "Homicide: Life on the streets" back in the 90s
 
2012-12-04 02:01:41 PM  

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 722x457]


That photographer eventually committed suicide.
 
2012-12-04 02:02:36 PM  

Fissile: The NYP is a hardcore Teahadist rag that preaches Randoidism......money trumps(no pun intended) all..........to "high rollers" most of whom have a net worth that rises into the low five figures.


Yes, it is the rag of choice for the barely educated fodder in the finance industry here.
 
2012-12-04 02:02:43 PM  

offmymeds: Have a look at the comments.

Link


FTC:

Jean Vuckovich-Evener
As a Libtard will say, Let's ban Subways!

Chao Liang
No let's not. When subways and trains kill, it's a tragedy and accident. When guns kill, it's just doing its job.

Jean Vuckovich-Evener
Well in this sad case the subway did it's job.

Oh lawd...
 
2012-12-04 02:04:16 PM  
As a photographer, you have to ask yourself, "What would Peter Parker do?"
 
2012-12-04 02:04:37 PM  
Subway....eat fresh
 
2012-12-04 02:04:38 PM  
The photographer looks to be about as far away from him as the train was. Unless there a phone booth nearby where he could have switched out of his disguise as a mild-mannered reporter and swooped in to save the day, what's he gonna do?
 
2012-12-04 02:05:06 PM  
They have nothing on Alarma TV.

Last month Alarma TV had a video of a guy caught between the subway car and the wall as the train came. It spun him around like a top between the cars and the wall till he came apart.

I DVR'd it and show it to people if they are willing to watch. They always wish they didn't watch the video.
 
2012-12-04 02:05:07 PM  
There's a ladder at both ends of the platform. Try to remember this for your own safety.
 
2012-12-04 02:05:20 PM  
had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.

Like the 2 guys in the center
t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-04 02:05:26 PM  

Hoopy Frood: The photographer looks to be about as far away from him as the train was. Unless there a phone booth nearby where he could have switched out of his disguise as a mild-mannered reporter and swooped in to save the day, what's he gonna do?


^was^ a phone booth nearby.
 
2012-12-04 02:05:29 PM  

under a mountain: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x391]

They also published this.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-04 02:05:57 PM  

SpectroBoy: had98c: Attempting to rescue that guy would put the rescuer in danger as well. I can't really blame anyone for not attempting to help. It's probably just as likely the victim would inadvertently drag any rescuer to their doom with him.

Ummmmmm wow.

If there were even TWO decent humans on the platform they would have grabbed the poor guys arms and pulled.



depends on how fast the train went by
 
2012-12-04 02:06:14 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: IF IT BLEEDS, IT LEADS


images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Agrees
 
2012-12-04 02:07:07 PM  

SirEattonHogg: This is exactly why I never stand close to the platform edge while waiting for the train.


This. Or engage in conversation with strangers while waiting for a train. You never know who the crazies are.
 
2012-12-04 02:07:14 PM  
My guess is his natural reaction to dangerous situations is to snap pictures. Hard to beat those types of automated responses when something life-threatening is happening. This idea he was using the flash to warn the conductor is nonsense, of course, and posting the images is disgusting, but I imagine the photographer simply was not thinking during the incident. Would abandon the idea of quick thinking, though, because then he is simply a profiteering asshole.
 
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