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2012-12-04 03:48:29 PM  

Dr Dreidel: // can I RAID two or more partitions, either on the same drive or across several? Would they all have to be on the same kind of disk (as RAID does), or just partitions of the same size?


If your partitions are on the same drive, all you're going to do is slow things down with no benefit. RAID 0 you're slowing it down, RAID 1 and up you're wasting space, as redundancy means dick if all the data is on the same drive.

Any RAID level will make the volume equal on all partitions or disks present, based on the smallest in the group. Example: you have four drives with one partition each at 100GB, 160GB, 250GB, and a shiny 4TB drive. No matter what RAID level you use, the logical drive created will be based on four 100GB drives. (Leaving you with lots of wasted space.)
 
2012-12-04 03:48:44 PM  
Obligatory Apple Fanboi retort: Why would you need to upgrade something that is already perfect?
 
2012-12-04 03:49:13 PM  

the_vicious_fez: but my point is there is a very legitimate use case for upgradeability


But Apple makes mass market products. If slimmer form factors sell better than upgradeable form factors (and thus far, that has been the case), guess which one Apple is going to make?
 
2012-12-04 03:50:18 PM  

PsyLord: Obligatory Apple Fanboi retort: Why would you need to upgrade something that is already perfect?


Above: Obligator unhinged iHater post. Nobody says that but you guys.
 
2012-12-04 03:51:13 PM  

CygnusDarius: fark it, just get an Alienware.


Don't get me started. I spent months trying to solve a DPC latency issue on 2 FailienWare M17x's. Horrible machine, poor customer service. M11x was great though, rock solid and reliable. Too bad they discontinued that one... Now using a core i7 Macbook Air for most things. Building a cheap PC desktop for gaming.

Yeah. I bought Macs. And I've also built a dozen or so desktops, from the boring to sli'd water-cooled horrors. People who "pick a team" are farking retards who need to stop being poor and buy one of everything. And not everyone who buys a Mac is technologically impaired, just like not everyone who builds their own PC's is a neckbearded Aspie...
 
2012-12-04 03:51:33 PM  
Oh noes! I can't open up my transmission and fix it very easily either! Why ?! WHAYYYYY!?

Seriously, if a harddrive dies, the problem isn't replacing it, it is recovering the data, the frigging hardware itself is nominal and i would just presume to bring it in to a tech shop and let them fuss with it, as does 99% of the world. If you have the time and patience to go knuckles deep into your computer, god bless ya, i don't have the time or the inclination.

/haven't opened a computer box since 1998 or so
//don't miss it
 
2012-12-04 03:51:43 PM  
"So it is with John. I could preach the practical value and worth of motorcycle maintenance till I'm hoarse and it would make not a dent in him. After two sentences on the subject his eyes go completely glassy and he changes the conversation or just looks away. He doesn't want to hear about it ...
When he brought his motorcycle over I got my wrenches out but then noticed that no amount of tightening would stop the slippage, because the ends of the collars were pinched shut. "You're going to have to shim those out," I said.
"What's shim?"
"It's a thin, flat strip of metal. You just slip it around the handlebar under the collar there and it will open up the collar to where you can tighten it again. You use shims like that to make adjustments in all kinds of machines."
"Oh," he said. He was getting interested. "Good. Where do you buy them?"
"I've got some right here," I said gleefully, holding up a can of beer in my hand.He didn't understand for a moment. Then he said, "What, the can?"
"Sure," I said, "best shim stock in the world." I thought this was pretty clever myself. Save him a trip to God knows where to get shim stock. Save him time. Save him money.
But to my surprise he didn't see the cleverness of this at all. In fact he got noticeably haughty about the whole thing. Pretty soon he was dodging and filling with all kinds of excuses and, before I realized what his real attitude was, we had decided not to fix the handlebars after all.

As far as I know those handlebars are still loose. And I believe now that he was actually offended at the time. I had had the nerve to propose repair of his new eighteen-hundred dollar BMW, the pride of a half-century of German mechanical finesse, with a piece of old beer can! Ach, du lieber! Since then we have had very few conversations about motorcycle maintenance. None, now that I think of it."
ZATAOMM

John would buy a Mac.
 
2012-12-04 03:55:27 PM  

t3knomanser: I really don't understand why anybody cares about this, or why anybody pretends to be surprised.


24.media.tumblr.com 

What 99% of Fark Mac threads amount to
 
2012-12-04 03:59:32 PM  

t3knomanser: Does anyone buy an all-in-one computer because they expect it to be upgradeable? I will never, ever understand why anyone gives a shiat about the fact that products obviously designed around a certain form-factor aren't user-serviceable.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about this, or why anybody pretends to be surprised.


No shiat. My wife just got a new Macbook Air. She loves it. It's only drawback is that the on-board storage is tiny (256GB). My answer, hang 3TB off the network and let her use that. Everyone is happy, and I don't ever have to deal with the insides of a computer ever again.
 
2012-12-04 03:59:36 PM  
This doesn't piss me off... it makes me sad. Every PC I've had since 2000 I've built, and they tend to last 5-6 years; I'm a year into my latest. Along that 6 years, I'll upgrade/add hard drives, replace/add RAM, and upgrade/add video card(s). The mobo/CPU is the only thing that survives the whole time.

This trend in the Mac architecture leads me to believe that owning one will never be an option, because I'll never have the upgrade options on the table. Goddamn shame.
 
2012-12-04 04:00:23 PM  

FinFangFark: t3knomanser: downstairs: Because hard drives and memory never fail?

The issue is: what's the MTBF. For memory, it's already pretty high. And with SSDs, you're getting into that neighborhood.

The only time I've ever had a RAM stick fail was when I gave it a good static shocking. It's been a long time since I've had a HDD failure of any stripe. Just going on raw probabilities: the chances of these parts failing when the product is outside of warranty and isn't due for replacement in some fashion is pretty slim.

Some of us buy a tower and keep it for decades, gradually upgrading parts like Theseus's ship. Most of us change over computers entirely every 2-5 years. I keep myself on a 3-ish year upgrade cycle. The MTBF for most parts is much larger than that.

So you've never experienced a HDD failure in all those years?


i personally haven't, and my experience is not that uncommon. the only hard drive I have lost in like 10 years was an external, and it was because I plugged it into the wrong power supply.
 
2012-12-04 04:00:33 PM  

lilbjorn: What 99% of Fark Mac threads amount to


That figure is a little low. Ever notice that the Samsung worker treatment stories don't even get greenlit on Fark?
 
2012-12-04 04:00:55 PM  

barefoot in the head: "So it is with John. I could preach the practical value and worth of motorcycle maintenance till I'm hoarse and it would make not a dent in him. After two sentences on the subject his eyes go completely glassy and he changes the conversation or just looks away. He doesn't want to hear about it ...
When he brought his motorcycle over I got my wrenches out but then noticed that no amount of tightening would stop the slippage, because the ends of the collars were pinched shut. "You're going to have to shim those out," I said.
"What's shim?"
"It's a thin, flat strip of metal. You just slip it around the handlebar under the collar there and it will open up the collar to where you can tighten it again. You use shims like that to make adjustments in all kinds of machines."
"Oh," he said. He was getting interested. "Good. Where do you buy them?"
"I've got some right here," I said gleefully, holding up a can of beer in my hand.He didn't understand for a moment. Then he said, "What, the can?"
"Sure," I said, "best shim stock in the world." I thought this was pretty clever myself. Save him a trip to God knows where to get shim stock. Save him time. Save him money.
But to my surprise he didn't see the cleverness of this at all. In fact he got noticeably haughty about the whole thing. Pretty soon he was dodging and filling with all kinds of excuses and, before I realized what his real attitude was, we had decided not to fix the handlebars after all.

As far as I know those handlebars are still loose. And I believe now that he was actually offended at the time. I had had the nerve to propose repair of his new eighteen-hundred dollar BMW, the pride of a half-century of German mechanical finesse, with a piece of old beer can! Ach, du lieber! Since then we have had very few conversations about motorcycle maintenance. None, now that I think of it."
ZATAOMM

John would buy a Mac.


Now, i will go into the terminal and punch out some command lines if necessary, i will also run diagnostics and optimization routines on a computer, but i am not going to waste my time finding the proper harddrive and the proper settings or fark forbid replace a power supply or cooling fan somewhere in the guts of a computer...just like i will clean and polish my motorcycle, change a spark plug or my oil and maybe even change the fuel or oil filter once in a while, but if the cylinder heads lose compression or the head gaskets need replacing, i am not gonna do that myself. And if i am not in the mood, i ain't gonna do none of that other stuff either.
 
2012-12-04 04:08:16 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: This doesn't piss me off... it makes me sad. Every PC I've had since 2000 I've built, and they tend to last 5-6 years; I'm a year into my latest. Along that 6 years, I'll upgrade/add hard drives, replace/add RAM, and upgrade/add video card(s). The mobo/CPU is the only thing that survives the whole time.

This trend in the Mac architecture leads me to believe that owning one will never be an option, because I'll never have the upgrade options on the table. Goddamn shame.


I have owned an iMac since 2005, never had to upgrade anything, still driving my home entertainment system (projector, surround sound, household wireless music and internet)...i didn't build it, i never opened it and am glad to have never wasted a single moment upgrading anything other than the software.

People want their computers to be toasters, or refridgeraters - that is, appliances. You want a hobby, and there is nothing wrong with that, but then, Apple isn't marketing to your type.
 
2012-12-04 04:10:24 PM  

Im_Gumby: /Win 7-64 Pro, 6 core AMD 1090T OC'd to 3.37GHz, 16 Gig Ram, on a 1TB RAID 0 Array
//Suck it Apple


Please tell me you don't have your OS on that array. It'd be much better to boot a SSD for increased speed and stability.
 
2012-12-04 04:11:44 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.

I think most computer problems stem from stupidity of do it yourself people.


You mean you LIKE spending $1500-2000 per machine once it's out of style?
 
2012-12-04 04:13:22 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.



You also won't be able to get it serviced or repaired if something goes wrong.
 
2012-12-04 04:18:02 PM  

Rwa2play: Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.

I think most computer problems stem from stupidity of do it yourself people.

You mean you LIKE spending $1500-2000 per machine once it's out of style?


Don't you have some neon lights that will change color according to CPU load to solder to your motherboard? Or maybe a case mod?
 
2012-12-04 04:21:19 PM  

asmodeus224: You want a hobby, and there is nothing wrong with that, but then, Apple isn't marketing to your type.


It's mainly to keep up with work needs, but yes, Apple doesn't want me as a customer anymore - they want my parents. That's fine, just disappointing.
 
2012-12-04 04:21:31 PM  
I find it amusing that the first iMac (the old CRT one) both the RAM and the hard drive were right in the back behind a panel, stupid easy to upgrade either one. The hard drive was even in a little caddy to make it easier to remove.
 
2012-12-04 04:22:30 PM  
Desktops aren't just good for ease of upgrades. They are also good because they are mostly cheaper than a laptop equivalent. The one proviso being that you have a monitor that lasts well of course, because I'm sure factoring in the monitor price does bring it more in line.

I'm looking at upgrading my desktop in the next year or so and I've considered just getting a laptop instead. The good is that unlike my desktop, I can also take it on holiday and anywhere else I please. The bad is that I can get a desktop with equivalent specs for what I'm after for less money. And I usually buy a PC that's about middle spec so that if it lasts me a good 6+ years it wont be an ancient relic that can't run the latest software by the end of it's life. It's more expensive to do that with a laptop.

Also have had 3 HDD failures over 8 years and 2 PC's so I prefer the option to be able to just swap out the HDD rather than have to send the whole thing in for a fix or even replace it all. Also, what about other things like keyboard or trackpad failures on a laptop? With a desktop, a keyboard or mouse failure is literally no more expensive than about $15. How much does it cost to get that fixed on a laptop?
 
2012-12-04 04:24:52 PM  
t3knomanser: Depends on the constraints. For that form factor, you don't really have a lot of other options.

The previous iteration used magnets.

Machines from other manufacturers in this form factor sometimes have an access panel.
 
2012-12-04 04:25:50 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Im_Gumby: /Win 7-64 Pro, 6 core AMD 1090T OC'd to 3.37GHz, 16 Gig Ram, on a 1TB RAID 0 Array
//Suck it Apple

Please tell me you don't have your OS on that array. It'd be much better to boot a SSD for increased speed and stability.


I do, but the array is completely backed up to a third drive weekly. Haven't experienced any stability issues since it was put together.

/I like to live dangerously
 
2012-12-04 04:27:22 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Im_Gumby: /Win 7-64 Pro, 6 core AMD 1090T OC'd to 3.37GHz, 16 Gig Ram, on a 1TB RAID 0 Array
//Suck it Apple

Please tell me you don't have your OS on that array. It'd be much better to boot a SSD for increased speed and stability.


What about a raid0 of SSDs like I'm using...as my system drive *boogity booga booga*!

/meh, it takes like 2 minutes to install the OS again and then another 5 to push the last backup onto it
//if one of those ever failed
///they won't.
 
2012-12-04 04:29:19 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: asmodeus224: You want a hobby, and there is nothing wrong with that, but then, Apple isn't marketing to your type.

It's mainly to keep up with work needs, but yes, Apple doesn't want me as a customer anymore - they want my parents. That's fine, just disappointing.


The MacPros are entirely upgradeable and customizable. They are expensive too, however. I agree the lower end Macs seem to be designed to limit upgradeability in order to force a power user into a more expensive MacPro or into using the Aopple Store upgrade (read: overpriced) path to moar powah.

switchtoamac.com
 
2012-12-04 04:31:12 PM  

t3knomanser: Does anyone buy an all-in-one computer because they expect it to be upgradeable? I will never, ever understand why anyone gives a shiat about the fact that products obviously designed around a certain form-factor aren't user-serviceable.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about this, or why anybody pretends to be surprised.


I expect my much smaller laptop to be upgradable. And it is. 5 screws and a big panel pops off the bottom exposing a standard 2.5" SATA drive, standard DDR3 SO-DIMM modules, and a standard mini-PCIe communications (WiFi in this case) module. And this thing was built over 2 years ago. If a bargain builder like Acer could manage this 2 years ago, surely Apple could manage it today.

Stock photo with power adapter for approximate scale:

computershopper.com

It's obvious Apple has deliberately designed the new line of iMacs to force people to pay outrageous markups for upgrades of basic components. They're also doing everything the can to ensure that their computers can't be repaired when components fail. A bad hard drive, bad power supply, or bad fan shouldn't be the end of a computer.
 
2012-12-04 04:35:13 PM  
You have to have been dropped on your head or something to think it's good that companies go out of their way to give you less choice.
 
2012-12-04 04:38:50 PM  

asmodeus224: The MacPros are entirely upgradeable and customizable


And way, way behind. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't last much longer.

And, like you said, pricey. Holy shiat.
 
2012-12-04 04:40:14 PM  
My friend fixed my 1970 Scout II with a paperclip and some chewing gum (well, enough to get it started and drive it home.)
Kids these days don't have those skills.

/get off my lawn, pull up your pants, why the hell are you wearing a scarf and a backpack, your music sucks, my balls are caught between slats, yells at clouds
 
2012-12-04 04:40:50 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: asmodeus224: The MacPros are entirely upgradeable and customizable

And way, way behind. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't last much longer.

And, like you said, pricey. Holy shiat.


There is one in almost every video editing suit I've been inside. I doubt they are going away anytime soon.
 
2012-12-04 04:53:25 PM  

Im_Gumby: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Im_Gumby: /Win 7-64 Pro, 6 core AMD 1090T OC'd to 3.37GHz, 16 Gig Ram, on a 1TB RAID 0 Array
//Suck it Apple

Please tell me you don't have your OS on that array. It'd be much better to boot a SSD for increased speed and stability.

I do, but the array is completely backed up to a third drive weekly. Haven't experienced any stability issues since it was put together.


If you backup that often, then you'll only be out of action for some time while the data is transferred. If you went with a raid 5 array, then you'd have no downtime when a drive fails. You'd just want to be sure to replace the failed drive as soon as possible. You'd need a raid 5 controller if your motherboard doesn't support it, and another drive to make it work.

BumpInTheNight: What about a raid0 of SSDs like I'm using...as my system drive *boogity booga booga*!

/meh, it takes like 2 minutes to install the OS again and then another 5 to push the last backup onto it
//if one of those ever failed
///they won't.


While SSD's are more reliable, other issues can lead to corruption which still makes a raid 0 a poor choice to boot off of. I would personally never recommend it, but like I said, If you're prepared with backups, you should be fine in general.
 
2012-12-04 04:54:15 PM  

t3knomanser: Does anyone buy an all-in-one computer because they expect it to be upgradeable? I will never, ever understand why anyone gives a shiat about the fact that products obviously designed around a certain form-factor aren't user-serviceable.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about this, or why anybody pretends to be surprised.


Considering the hard drives in previous generation iMacs were, indeed, replaceable, this change is very significant. Though I do agree, I can't pretend to be too surprised, considering Apple pursues thinness harder than an anorexic on a celery diet.
 
2012-12-04 04:56:28 PM  
I spent $500 at NewEgg for an awesome and completely upgradable PC with nearly the same specs as the iMac, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. What kind of idiot spends $1500 for a low-end UGLY desktop PC? Oh, wait, it's a Mac. Nevermind. They've got the best marketing department in the world.
 
2012-12-04 04:59:10 PM  

asmodeus224: Rwa2play: Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.

I think most computer problems stem from stupidity of do it yourself people.

You mean you LIKE spending $1500-2000 per machine once it's out of style?

Don't you have some neon lights that will change color according to CPU load to solder to your motherboard? Or maybe a case mod?


Not really; I save that money for a future upgrade. You know, something I can do on my PC that Apple won't let me do.
 
2012-12-04 05:00:23 PM  

NewWorldDan: I spent $500 at NewEgg for an awesome and completely upgradable PC with nearly the same specs as the iMac, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. What kind of idiot spends $1500 for a low-end UGLY desktop PC? Oh, wait, it's a Mac. Nevermind. They've got the best marketing department in the world.


This.
 
2012-12-04 05:02:43 PM  
I bought a two slice toaster and I just now discovered that I cannot upgrade it to a four slice toaster.
 
2012-12-04 05:02:48 PM  
I bought my iMac for space constraints. Plus it was one of the few AIOs that have a decent video card. I've had an iMac that went through a house fire and had ingested a lot of smoke and I had it for 5 years until the HDD failed. Now I could replace the HDD, but I opted to replace the iMac with a newer refurbished model for $220 less than the retail price. But the old iMac was 5 years old so I thought of SDLC in terms of the hardware. i compared it with other AIOs but iMac had the better video chipset still.

PS. I dislike laptops before anyone brings that up.
 
2012-12-04 05:02:53 PM  
If your choice was between a Mac and something that you can get at BestBuy, go with the Mac. Fortunately, those aren't your only choices. You can also go outside, breathe in the fresh air, and get raped by roving bands of Linux users.
 
2012-12-04 05:04:07 PM  

dukeblue219: How often does RAM break down anyway?


Often enough that it should damn well be easy to replace.
 
2012-12-04 05:04:14 PM  

bobtheallmighty: Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.

I think most computer problems stem from stupidity of do it yourself people.


Hey, just because youre paralyzed by fear everytime you open the side of a computer dosent mean other people dont know what they are doing,


/built all my own computers.
//still have an old intell P2 that runs, it beat the odds.


I always wonder at the people who say shiat like that. I mean, it's not even hard to build a computer anymore. You don't worry about IRQs, or Master/Slave Drives, or any of that garbage; you just make sure your processor is on your motherboard's support list, and stick everything in the socket where it fits. It's like playing with Legos these days, except when you're done, you have a new computer.
 
2012-12-04 05:05:36 PM  
In about a year or two when it's time to upgrade my system, I'll probably get a chromebook and build my own desktop. I'm old and need a big screen for day to day stuff.
 
2012-12-04 05:06:56 PM  

jtown: It's obvious Apple has deliberately designed the new line of iMacs to force people to pay outrageous markups for upgrades of basic components.


Yes, of course, "obvious".

Now this might be true, I wouldn't put it past post-Jobs Apple, but I've been using and developing on their products for almost 20 years, and if there is one experience that's familiar to me, it's getting mad at Apple for something, then figuring out or reading the rationale later and being like "oh, Apple, you were looking out or me all along!". Doesn't happen every time, and I'm not saying it's happening this time, but I don't take anything they do as some obvious ploy to rip me off, until it happens and I get ripped off and there's no other explanation.

This is gonna sound like fanboyism, and maybe it is, but I give them the benefit of the doubt ever since mag-safe power adapters became standard on their laptops. Anybody that thinks about me that much when designing a product gets the benefit of the doubt.
 
2012-12-04 05:09:44 PM  

HeartBurnKid: bobtheallmighty: Darth_Lukecash: You buy a Mac so you don't have to worry about the insides.

I think most computer problems stem from stupidity of do it yourself people.


Hey, just because youre paralyzed by fear everytime you open the side of a computer dosent mean other people dont know what they are doing,


/built all my own computers.
//still have an old intell P2 that runs, it beat the odds.

I always wonder at the people who say shiat like that. I mean, it's not even hard to build a computer anymore. You don't worry about IRQs, or Master/Slave Drives, or any of that garbage; you just make sure your processor is on your motherboard's support list, and stick everything in the socket where it fits. It's like playing with Legos these days, except when you're done, you have a new computer.


No shiat. "I BUILT MAH OWNZ COMPUTAHZ!!!!" BFD.

I've dealt with computers that killed people. I've dealt with computers that needed their own rooms just to hold the cooling equipment and generators necessary to run them. I've dealt with thousand node networks before it was cool. I'm sick to farking death of being inside computers. At this point in my life, anyone that brags on their mad computer building' skillz like its some sort of accomplishment that every Junior High School geek on the planet can't do all it tells me is that you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.

They're a farking tool. If the computer is the end in itself for you, you don't have enough to do.

/ BTDT. No one cares.
 
2012-12-04 05:10:15 PM  
Anyone who doesn't build a computer from scratch, including the actual components, is a LOSER! This means if you use MacOS, Windows, or any firm of Linux which you didn't program and design yourself, then you suck at computers and thus life itself!

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to play some EVE (WoW is for losers) with my guild as we discuss how the world is filled with people who aren't as cool as us.

/I'm so lonely :-(
 
2012-12-04 05:12:09 PM  

HeartBurnKid: It's like playing with Legos these days, except when you're done, you have a new computer.


Learn to play the guitar! It's easy!

/Bongwater
 
2012-12-04 05:16:20 PM  

HeartBurnKid: I always wonder at the people who say shiat like that. I mean, it's not even hard to build a computer anymore. You don't worry about IRQs, or Master/Slave Drives, or any of that garbage; you just make sure your processor is on your motherboard's support list, and stick everything in the socket where it fits. It's like playing with Legos these days, except when you're done, you have a new computer.


I half agree on most and completely agree on the lego-like nature of it once you've got the parts. Its the getting the parts which is still a rather daunting task to anyone that isn't currently up to date on the trends and hardware available. What socket? What what's a socket? Okay Intel or AMD? Atom/Ion/real CPU? Is the ram you picked on the HCL for the motherboard? Oh you have to pick a motherboard too? What is this dual channel or triple channel or wtf quad channel? I wanna buy that Nvidia 610 because its cheaper and a higher number then a 580...what do you mean that's a bad idea? The fark is SLI? Oh cool I wanna do that. Oh that motherboard doesn't support it? Pick a different one. Does your ram pick still show up on that new one's HCL? Okay sweet now how am I going to overclock it? What you mean that CPU doesn't overclock? Fark.

Just a sampler of the depthly conversation you'll have with the first time system builder and yourself over a life time of computer hardware do-it-yourselfrism. But I wouldn't have it any other way :)
 
2012-12-04 05:18:08 PM  

Electrify: Now if you'll excuse me, I need to play some EVE (WoW is for losers) with my guild as we discuss how the world is filled with people who aren't as cool as us.


At least you have a guild. All I have is these spreadsheets.
When i was growing up I created my own AD&D modules but never played with anyone.

/Lonely? You call that lonely?
 
2012-12-04 05:18:35 PM  

Surool: Also, most laptops are also difficult to upgrade


Yeah not really.
 
2012-12-04 05:25:04 PM  
Did you assholes biatch this much when you couldn't put new tubes in your radio?
 
2012-12-04 05:30:34 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Im_Gumby: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Im_Gumby: /Win 7-64 Pro, 6 core AMD 1090T OC'd to 3.37GHz, 16 Gig Ram, on a 1TB RAID 0 Array
//Suck it Apple

Please tell me you don't have your OS on that array. It'd be much better to boot a SSD for increased speed and stability.

I do, but the array is completely backed up to a third drive weekly. Haven't experienced any stability issues since it was put together.

If you backup that often, then you'll only be out of action for some time while the data is transferred. If you went with a raid 5 array, then you'd have no downtime when a drive fails. You'd just want to be sure to replace the failed drive as soon as possible. You'd need a raid 5 controller if your motherboard doesn't support it, and another drive to make it work.


I know, but one of the benefits of this setup is that should something get farked, I have a backup to restore from (which I wouldn't get from a raid 5 without also then running a backup). This setup only marginally increases downtime while theorically increasing speeds. I don't need zero downtime.
 
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