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(Yahoo)   NASA's earthshaking Mars discovery is finding Han Solo frozen in carbonite. Well, actually, just carbon   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2012-12-04 01:25:29 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Did they find out where Han's vest disappeared to, then re-appeared from, just before he was frozen?

/go watch TESB closely....


WTF are you talking about? Han didn't wear his vest on Bespin, he had a jacket, which was gone when they brought him to the chamber and remained off through the freezing process and when he was thawed out on Tatooine.

Likewise, it's very evident that he's not wearing any sort of vest while in the carbonite.

...now that said, the arm-shackles that were wrapped around his biceps seems to have not survived the freezing process intact, since they aren't there when he thaws out.
 
2012-12-04 01:31:37 PM  
ftfa:
"It's not unexpected that this sand pile would not be rich in organics. It's been exposed to the harsh Martian environment,"

Right. The probability of finding organic compounds in the dry and maximally exposed (to solar radiation) dust was slim to none. In other words the whole "OMG NASA found life on Mars" hysteria was absurd and was created by people with a sub-fifth grade science education misinterpreting what Grotzinger was saying. He was was just excited that the instruments were working well and they were getting their first results which looked great. If they can dig into much older layers, which is what they are going for, they might find better evidence of past (millions of years ago) life but my prediction is they won't. And people will seriously piss and moan about it.
 
2012-12-04 01:36:53 PM  

bongmiester: did they find an interesting rock formation?

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looks like a wiener
 
2012-12-04 02:00:05 PM  

DubtodaIll: Proteios1: Carbon. Simply a mind numbing discovery. And at a cost of only $20 billion, such a better investment than the Obama stimulus funds.
. Humanity will always be beset by its own fallacies and therefore spending too much on social problems is a much larger waste of funds than discovering new knowledge and territory to infect with our selves.



I'll bite. There is no better use of profits than exploration. How do you think some Queen or King or Pharoah with an attitude accomplished that? I don't care what cronies Obama sucks up too, so long as it's exploration of other planets.

Mars doesn't care. Nor does Earth. It's a rock. We're on it. Go find shiat. But two scoops of dirt reminds me of the Kellogs jingle "two scoops of Raisin Brand..."
 
2012-12-04 02:01:04 PM  

Biness: bongmiester: did they find an interesting rock formation?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 720x576]

looks like a wiener



Get your mind out of the gutter.
 
2012-12-04 02:01:30 PM  
Came for Hope Solo. Leaving disappointed...

/just like she would
 
2012-12-04 02:02:20 PM  
Like many others, that article really pissed me off. We already know that there is carbon on Mars. The atmosphere and many of the rocks are made of it.

What we are looking for are carbon molecules which are byproducts of non-geologic processes. Sugars, starches... Now I have to go find an article that includes actual information. And get my organic chemistry book out.
 
2012-12-04 02:07:22 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: DubtodaIll: Proteios1: Carbon. Simply a mind numbing discovery. And at a cost of only $20 billion, such a better investment than the Obama stimulus funds.
. Humanity will always be beset by its own fallacies and therefore spending too much on social problems is a much larger waste of funds than discovering new knowledge and territory to infect with our selves.


I'll bite. There is no better use of profits than exploration. How do you think some Queen or King or Pharoah with an attitude accomplished that? I don't care what cronies Obama sucks up too, so long as it's exploration of other planets.

Mars doesn't care. Nor does Earth. It's a rock. We're on it. Go find shiat. But two scoops of dirt reminds me of the Kellogs jingle "two scoops of Raisin Brand..."


Better than two scoops of Russell Brand!

Amirite?
 
2012-12-04 02:11:12 PM  
TFA:

"If you have organic carbon and you don't have any water, you don't have a habitable environment,"

brantgoose: Well, actually they found more than organic carbon



As opposed to all that inorganic carbon laying about? Or am I a MacGyver failure and my memory of high school chemistry defining "organic" as "contains carbon" inaccurate?

Or they're meaning to say organic compounds (clickity-pop) in the useful sense (CO2, CO, steel, etc excluded)

/Don't get me started on 'organic' food
 
2012-12-04 02:21:32 PM  

brantgoose: Mars has methane although it is not known whether the source is biological or geological. It is leaking out of the ground in some interesting places where life would be likely on, say, Antarctica.


Actually I believe we should be a little bit skeptical of the methane observations. From what I understand it is pretty incredible that the methane would disappear as quickly as it appears. On the other hand it's easy to mistake one spectral line for another (the observations are all based on spectra).
 
2012-12-04 02:39:44 PM  

LesserEvil: ObscureNameHere: Did they find out where Han's vest disappeared to, then re-appeared from, just before he was frozen?

/go watch TESB closely....

WTF are you talking about? Han didn't wear his vest on Bespin, he had a jacket, which was gone when they brought him to the chamber and remained off through the freezing process and when he was thawed out on Tatooine.
Likewise, it's very evident that he's not wearing any sort of vest while in the carbonite.

...now that said, the arm-shackles that were wrapped around his biceps seems to have not survived the freezing process intact, since they aren't there when he thaws out.


Bold text = *facepalm* [youfail.jpg]

That was my POINT, skippy.

When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.

Sheesh.....
 
2012-12-04 02:47:46 PM  

ObscureNameHere: When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.


Apparently they did dozens of takes of that shot, couldn't get a proper dialog line. Finally, Ford told them to roll and came up with the "I know" line. Since Ford and Carrie were constantly coked up and/or drunk with each each other, yeah, in that shot he might have forgotten the jacket.

/Ford also came up with the shooting the sword guy in Raiders
//maybe Ford should write the new movies
 
2012-12-04 02:48:21 PM  

SnarfVader: Since Carbon is present in the entire universe well into the hundreds of parts per million, I would have been more surprised if they didn't find any.


This

/if they found something that would suggest a self replicating molecule rather than an abundant element, I'd be more surprised (or excited, either or)
 
2012-12-04 02:58:48 PM  

ObscureNameHere: That was my POINT, skippy.

When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.

Sheesh....


Let's try this again....

I have the movie right here, the scene begins at 1:34:41, where he is brought in to the chamber, lowered in at 1:36:30 - at no time does any jacket or vest magically appear on him. Through the entire scene he is wearing a shirt (cotton?).

No jacket or vest.
 
2012-12-04 03:40:59 PM  

LesserEvil: ObscureNameHere: That was my POINT, skippy.

When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.

Sheesh....

Let's try this again....

I have the movie right here, the scene begins at 1:34:41, where he is brought in to the chamber, lowered in at 1:36:30 - at no time does any jacket or vest magically appear on him. Through the entire scene he is wearing a shirt (cotton?).

No jacket or vest.


This issue was partially fixed on a DVD version Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 181 mistakes

"Continuity: When one of the Storm Troopers unties Solo before he is put into the carbonite, watch his wardrobe - he has a disappearing / reappearing jacket on. This is fixed to an extent on the DVD - the jacket is now lightened to almost match his shirt, but it's still shiny like leather.
 
2012-12-04 03:43:29 PM  

Skyd1v: That Reilly Monster: FTFA: Even with carbon and water, life needs other chemicals, such as sulfur, oxygen, phosphorous and nitrogen, to form and evolve.

Statements like this irk me. Would it be too much to ask for "life as we understand it needs other chemicals..."?

Bothered me as well. Should have read "Even with carbon and water, life on Earth needs yaddayaddayadda".

Silicone based life-forms frown on this reporters shenanigans.

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NO KILL I
 
2012-12-04 03:49:26 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: LesserEvil: ObscureNameHere: That was my POINT, skippy.

When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.

Sheesh....

Let's try this again....

I have the movie right here, the scene begins at 1:34:41, where he is brought in to the chamber, lowered in at 1:36:30 - at no time does any jacket or vest magically appear on him. Through the entire scene he is wearing a shirt (cotton?).

No jacket or vest.

This issue was partially fixed on a DVD version Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 181 mistakes

"Continuity: When one of the Storm Troopers unties Solo before he is put into the carbonite, watch his wardrobe - he has a disappearing / reappearing jacket on. This is fixed to an extent on the DVD - the jacket is now lightened to almost match his shirt, but it's still shiny like leather.



I'll buy that explanation. My reference is the Blu-ray edition.
 
2012-12-04 03:54:27 PM  

LesserEvil: That Guy...From That Show!: LesserEvil: ObscureNameHere: That was my POINT, skippy.

When Han is standing on the platform there are cuts between him and Leia as they do the "I love" and the "I know". In one cut he has on a vest (or jacket, if you prefer) then in another cut he is just in his shirt -- no vest/jacket.

Sheesh....

Let's try this again....

I have the movie right here, the scene begins at 1:34:41, where he is brought in to the chamber, lowered in at 1:36:30 - at no time does any jacket or vest magically appear on him. Through the entire scene he is wearing a shirt (cotton?).

No jacket or vest.

This issue was partially fixed on a DVD version Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 181 mistakes

"Continuity: When one of the Storm Troopers unties Solo before he is put into the carbonite, watch his wardrobe - he has a disappearing / reappearing jacket on. This is fixed to an extent on the DVD - the jacket is now lightened to almost match his shirt, but it's still shiny like leather.


I'll buy that explanation. My reference is the Blu-ray edition.


So.... we were both right? Damn you Lucas and your revisionist history! :)

For the record, I remember the mistake because my wife blurted it out while we were watching the trilogy--- on VHS. It was embarassing for me becuase I had never noticed it before despite watching the movie well over 30 times.
 
2012-12-04 03:59:35 PM  

Skyd1v: washington-babylon: Skyd1v:
See the difference? Are we clear now? What life forms are we talking about, exactly?

/pet peeve

Frankly, I would prefer the "Happy Fun-time Enhancing" Silicone life forms over the "Smashy, Burny" Silicon ones, but that's just me.


Heh. OK. I will have to concede that as life forms go, the Enhanced Sweater Puppy types are definitely best.

/at least you can tell the difference between "Silicone" and "Silicon" when shown a picture...
 
2012-12-04 04:29:52 PM  

ObscureNameHere: So.... we were both right? Damn you Lucas and your revisionist history! :)

For the record, I remember the mistake because my wife blurted it out while we were watching the trilogy--- on VHS. It was embarassing for me becuase I had never noticed it before despite watching the movie well over 30 times.


Seems that way.

Lucas will someday pay for his crimes.

On a side note, I didn't see anything shiny in the Blu-ray version, so they might have "fixed" it even more.
 
2012-12-04 04:46:55 PM  
I posted a link to TFA on my facebook because I think science is teh kewl, and one of my genius friends responds, "Not trying to be rude... But why do we care? So they supposedly found trace amounts of organic carbon on Mars? I just don't really get why we care so much about the possibility of life on another planet? Do we want to go there on vacation? Won't happen, if even possible, in our great great grand children's lifetime. Am I missing something? Can this in some way benefit us in the near future?"

Sigh.
 
2012-12-04 04:49:49 PM  

ObscureNameHere: For the record, I remember the mistake because my wife blurted it out while we were watching the trilogy--- on VHS. It was embarassing for me becuase I had never noticed it before despite watching the movie well over 30 times.


It shouldn't be embarrassing, even professionals paid to watch for that sort of thing when movies are made miss all sorts of things. Your wife most likely only noticed because she was interested in the clothing people were wearing...it's high on her attention list.

See Movie Perception Test for a real mind blower about this sort of thing and only takes 2 minutes to watch.

Here's another one that's only a minute or so change blindness movie
 
2012-12-04 06:22:47 PM  
Now I understand why they held the conference in San Fransisco.

"Just finding carbon somewhere doesn't mean that it has anything to do with life, or the finding of a habitable environment," lead scientist John Grotzinger, with the California Institute of Technology, told reporters at the American Geophysical Union conference in San Francisco.

In other words, they found nothing significant to prove that there was life on Mars.

"We're starting to find the spices that make a stew tasty. There are the basic ingredients that you expect to be there, but it's how you combine them and the minor ingredients that really turn out to be interesting," he said.

Finding a micro amount of carbon is a long ways from finding the chicken and the other eleven herbs and spices. Metaphorically speaking of course.

"What this mission is about is integrated science," Grotzinger added. "There is not going to be one single moment where we all stand up and on the basis of a single measurement have a hallelujah moment."

Ummmmm, didn't you just spike the football and told the whole world you found carbon and you are well on your way to finding life on mars? If the discovery of that minute amount carbon was such a non-issue, why keep the public in the dark until the last moment?

What a waste of taxpayers money. It makes no seance to send people to one of the most expensive cities to live in just to tell the taxpayers more or less, "we got nothing".
 
2012-12-04 07:13:19 PM  
Did they find photons too?
 
2012-12-04 11:31:50 PM  

brantgoose: The surface of Mars is rich in perchlorates.


Pretty obvious really, the garden of Eden was on mars, after the fall man was exiled to earth and god bleached the fark out of mars to make sure we couldn't go back.
 
2012-12-05 03:50:03 AM  

Skyd1v: That Reilly Monster: FTFA: Even with carbon and water, life needs other chemicals, such as sulfur, oxygen, phosphorous and nitrogen, to form and evolve.

Statements like this irk me. Would it be too much to ask for "life as we understand it needs other chemicals..."?

Bothered me as well. Should have read "Even with carbon and water, life on Earth needs yaddayaddayadda".

Silicone based life-forms frown on this reporters shenanigans.

[img829.imageshack.us image 640x480]


Unlikely
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon-based_life#Silicon_biochemistry
 
2012-12-05 04:07:08 AM  

NkThrasher: TFA:

"If you have organic carbon and you don't have any water, you don't have a habitable environment,"

brantgoose: Well, actually they found more than organic carbon


As opposed to all that inorganic carbon laying about? Or am I a MacGyver failure and my memory of high school chemistry defining "organic" as "contains carbon" inaccurate?

Or they're meaning to say organic compounds (clickity-pop) in the useful sense (CO2, CO, steel, etc excluded)

/Don't get me started on 'organic' food


Inorganic carbon would be stuff like CO, CO2, diamond, graphite, some nitriles etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_compound
 
2012-12-05 12:03:22 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: ObscureNameHere: For the record, I remember the mistake because my wife blurted it out while we were watching the trilogy--- on VHS. It was embarassing for me becuase I had never noticed it before despite watching the movie well over 30 times.

It shouldn't be embarrassing, even professionals paid to watch for that sort of thing when movies are made miss all sorts of things. Your wife most likely only noticed because she was interested in the clothing people were wearing...it's high on her attention list.


:) I think in this case, watching Harrison Ford be all doomed and yet manly was what was high on her list.
 
2012-12-05 01:23:47 PM  

ObscureNameHere: That Guy...From That Show!: ObscureNameHere: For the record, I remember the mistake because my wife blurted it out while we were watching the trilogy--- on VHS. It was embarassing for me becuase I had never noticed it before despite watching the movie well over 30 times.

It shouldn't be embarrassing, even professionals paid to watch for that sort of thing when movies are made miss all sorts of things. Your wife most likely only noticed because she was interested in the clothing people were wearing...it's high on her attention list.

:) I think in this case, watching Harrison Ford be all doomed and yet manly was what was high on her list.


Yes, I was being tactful. My mentioning her imagining the feel of his vest/jacket brushing against her skin and then it disappearing thus disrupting her daydream wouldn't have been so.
 
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