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(Radar Magazine)   Is "Storage Wars" fake? Dave Hester: YUUUUUUUUUUP. Producers: You're outta this one, Dave   (radaronline.com) divider line 249
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2012-12-04 08:10:23 AM  
Entertainment on television is staged?
 
2012-12-04 08:11:03 AM  
One big issue: accusations that the show's bidding is rigged and that items are put in some lockers to be "discovered" and add to the drama of the episode.

This is my shocked face.
 
2012-12-04 08:19:13 AM  
celebritywonder.ugo.com

I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.
 
2012-12-04 08:22:01 AM  
Television lied to me?
 
2012-12-04 08:37:09 AM  
Needs Obvious tag.
 
2012-12-04 08:39:38 AM  
You know what's really interesting about the article?

PHOTOS: Of unrelated stuff

That they think Hester is the star.

PHOTOS: Click on my pinkness

I think the star is really shared with all of them.

PHOTOS: You know, pictures you look at.
 
2012-12-04 08:45:20 AM  
If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing
 
2012-12-04 08:47:21 AM  
Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.
 
2012-12-04 08:55:03 AM  
Of course it's fake. I sit and think of the "take" they make, then deduct all the time, expenses for vehicles, hired help, paying an appraiser, and then the effort to find a willing buyer. Going through a box and saying "This will get $20" and having it cha-ching on the screen doesn't mean you can easily find someone to pay $20 for it. And even if you did, you have to deduct the cost of selling it for $20, like a store or ebay listing fees, etc, etc, etc...

It's not a ticket to quick wealth. I wonder how many more people go to these auctions trying to duplicate that lifestyle. I'm sure storage locker owners love it though.

/that said, I often end up watching several of them in a row when I'm home sick or bored.
 
2012-12-04 09:15:38 AM  

weave: Of course it's fake. I sit and think of the "take" they make, then deduct all the time, expenses for vehicles, hired help, paying an appraiser, and then the effort to find a willing buyer. Going through a box and saying "This will get $20" and having it cha-ching on the screen doesn't mean you can easily find someone to pay $20 for it. And even if you did, you have to deduct the cost of selling it for $20, like a store or ebay listing fees, etc, etc, etc...


Plus they act like they have to sell all this stuff for a profit or they'll go out of business...never mind they're being paid more to be on the show than they'll ever make buying storage lockers. That being said, I do like to watch sometimes, just to see the random things they may find in a locker.
 
2012-12-04 09:22:00 AM  
"Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.
 
2012-12-04 09:23:26 AM  

FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.


I'm with you on most of that, but I'll step up to defend The Amazing Race. That's a really good reality show and if they're faking anything beyond a little creative editing, they've fooled me for years.
 
2012-12-04 09:23:47 AM  
Dave Hester is a douchebag
 
2012-12-04 09:24:30 AM  
Nope, Dave Hester.
 
2012-12-04 09:27:49 AM  

cretinbob: Dave Hester is a douchebag


I think that's why he's the only believable guy on the show. ah well, I always assume reality shows are all stage managed anyway. of course it's fake - duh. it's television. the producers have to manufacture drama to make people interested enough to tune into it and watch.
 
2012-12-04 09:32:37 AM  
"Storage Wars" is real. Right. Next they will tell me those dysfunctional people on C-SPAN are really running the United States.
 
2012-12-04 09:42:58 AM  
I like pawnstars. I don't care if it is fake, they have interesting items and make an attempt to explain history.

I also like ricks restorations for the same history reasons. It is also neat to see the insides of some of those old machines and how they work.
 
2012-12-04 09:46:32 AM  

RedPhoenix122: weave: Of course it's fake. I sit and think of the "take" they make, then deduct all the time, expenses for vehicles, hired help, paying an appraiser, and then the effort to find a willing buyer. Going through a box and saying "This will get $20" and having it cha-ching on the screen doesn't mean you can easily find someone to pay $20 for it. And even if you did, you have to deduct the cost of selling it for $20, like a store or ebay listing fees, etc, etc, etc...

Plus they act like they have to sell all this stuff for a profit or they'll go out of business...never mind they're being paid more to be on the show than they'll ever make buying storage lockers. That being said, I do like to watch sometimes, just to see the random things they may find in a locker.


There was an episode where they showed Barry's outtakes for one of his lines. They weren't exactly hiding it
 
2012-12-04 09:52:20 AM  

Donnchadha: Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick,


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2012-12-04 10:04:01 AM  

basemetal: I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.

 
2012-12-04 10:16:49 AM  

FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing


yeah, I love what they are doing with Pawn Stars and trying to create a Paul Sr/Paul Jr. scenario.

I also love how they have Hester pull numbers out of his ass so he always turns a profit on his lockers.
 
2012-12-04 10:19:14 AM  
Once I start an episode, I can's top.

I like when they try to make Darrell act like he's mad at his son. He's just so bad at it.
 
2012-12-04 10:21:13 AM  

RedPhoenix122: weave: Of course it's fake. I sit and think of the "take" they make, then deduct all the time, expenses for vehicles, hired help, paying an appraiser, and then the effort to find a willing buyer. Going through a box and saying "This will get $20" and having it cha-ching on the screen doesn't mean you can easily find someone to pay $20 for it. And even if you did, you have to deduct the cost of selling it for $20, like a store or ebay listing fees, etc, etc, etc...

Plus they act like they have to sell all this stuff for a profit or they'll go out of business...never mind they're being paid more to be on the show than they'll ever make buying storage lockers. That being said, I do like to watch sometimes, just to see the random things they may find in a locker.


I did watching Darrel Sheets get shafted on the magic cards he found.
 
2012-12-04 10:22:58 AM  

ManateeGag: yeah, I love what they are doing with Pawn Stars and trying to create a Paul Sr/Paul Jr. scenario.

I also love how they have Hester pull numbers out of his ass so he always turns a profit on his lockers.



Hester is the anti-Rick. Rick looks at a $12,000 Les Paul and says "I'll give you $500 for it"
Hester looks at a Fisher Price guitar and says "That's an easy $500"
 
2012-12-04 10:38:47 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Hester is the anti-Rick. Rick looks at a $12,000 Les Paul and says "I'll give you $500 for it"
Hester looks at a Fisher Price guitar and says "That's an easy $500"




That's the whole difference between a buyer and a seller. My only problem with Storage Wars is Darrel saying "bill" after every dollar amount, ie: that's a 300 dollar bill. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 300 DOLLAR BILL!! And the way they edit it he says it like 4 or 5 times right in a row. arrggg

I know, but it's a pet peeve
 
2012-12-04 10:50:58 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Hester is the anti-Rick. Rick looks at a $12,000 Les Paul and says "I'll give you $500 for it"
Hester looks at a Fisher Price guitar and says "That's an easy $500"



That's the whole difference between a buyer and a seller. My only problem with Storage Wars is Darrel saying "bill" after every dollar amount, ie: that's a 300 dollar bill. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 300 DOLLAR BILL!! And the way they edit it he says it like 4 or 5 times right in a row. arrggg

I know, but it's a pet peeve


That's a 300 dollar bill all day long
 
2012-12-04 10:51:11 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 300 DOLLAR BILL!!


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2012-12-04 11:10:47 AM  
I'm sure it's fake, but I don't really care. Storage Wars is the one reality show I watch. Not that I go out of my way to watch it, but I'll stop flipping channels if i see it.
 
2012-12-04 11:17:55 AM  

Donnchadha: all day long


That's the Wow Factor baby!

/dude has more catch phases than Bart Simpson
 
2012-12-04 11:30:05 AM  

Radak: FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

I'm with you on most of that, but I'll step up to defend The Amazing Race. That's a really good reality show and if they're faking anything beyond a little creative editing, they've fooled me for years.


I absolutely agree with you on the Amazing Race. At the very least, you get exposed to different cultures and scenery in places I know I'll probably never get a chance to visit in my lifetime. However, I think the OP is referring to cable TV reality shows. For cable, I'd nominate an Idiot Abroad as a good one, even if it is faked, which I'm not sure it is.

/Portlandia might as well be a reality show.
 
2012-12-04 11:40:46 AM  

FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing


Mythbusters draws shiat out too long. I need a season-end special episode that is like, an hour long, where all the myths and the results of their "testing" (for some value of the word) are montaged without the ridiculously slow pacing that they use to take up an hour each episode.
 
2012-12-04 11:43:37 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Donnchadha: all day long

That's the Wow Factor baby!

/dude has more catch phases than Bart Simpson


don't have a cow, man!
 
2012-12-04 12:07:27 PM  
I miss The Colony. It was totally staged but the people's reactions were legit. Especially how stupid they were in the face of danger/starvation/raids by marauders. Oh look. All these power supplies and viable non-warped lumber was left behind! Oh, look, a boat without any holes and a motor which only needs rudimentary repairs to get running.

Oh look, you found this room upstairs which wasn't there on your previous explorations of the building!
 
2012-12-04 12:13:02 PM  
This is what I keep trying to explain to pepole who watch reality shows. If you're going to watch manufactured drama, why don't you at least watch the ones made by people who are good at it and tell stories more engaging than, "What's Bubba gonna find behind this door?"
 
2012-12-04 12:13:15 PM  
This is pretty much why I quit watching tv. They could have informative, educational shows about various jobs like gold miners, or a historical show about stuff in pawn shops, but no, we get hyped up, unrealistic melodrama by people who can't act while pretending to do the stuff I want to hear about.
 
2012-12-04 12:13:44 PM  

Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.


She's the reasonable one in that relationship.
 
2012-12-04 12:17:57 PM  

ManateeGag: FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing

yeah, I love what they are doing with Pawn Stars and trying to create a Paul Sr/Paul Jr. scenario.

I also love how they have Hester pull numbers out of his ass so he always turns a profit on his lockers.


Or act like his second hand, as is off the shelf store can charge roughly 80-90% of retail value for any item. If it wasn't for Barry I wouldn't even tune in(Brandi has been cheap on the cleavage shots lately).
 
2012-12-04 12:18:52 PM  

FriarReb98

If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.
You stopped watching Mythbusters around season 4, didn't you.



// it's crap now.
 
2012-12-04 12:19:05 PM  
I find it hard to believe that the network even cares whether or not people think it's real. I find it hard to believe that anyone WOULD believe it's real.
 
2012-12-04 12:23:06 PM  
Dad told me this over thanksgiving holiday, since he & mom live in the town where Cajun Pawn Stars is filmed. Jimmy Deramus, the guy that owns the pawn store, offered to buy a rail car from a guy that works for a museum. Dad's on the board of the museum, and they filmed that entire show at the same museum.

Jimmy offers the guy $5k for the car, the guy agrees. Afterwards, no money or titles changed hands, nobody bought or sold anything. The only thing happening is the crew is filming a story to get people to watch. The amounts could be 100x as much for all the meaning they have.

The people involved have to sign an NDA, but small Southern town gossip > any NDA in the world.
 
2012-12-04 12:23:25 PM  
So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!
 
2012-12-04 12:24:03 PM  

Generation_D: Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.


I remember that show. They came right out and said they seeded the junkyard so that the teams would have the correct material to actually build stuff. And reseeded it every episode. You either dump a boat propeller in the junkyard for teams to use- one that would pass an inspection as being safe to use- or nobody's building a boat that day and you have no show. I remember one where they had to make a rocket to shoot an egg into the air and bring it down safely where they just said at the start of the show 'yeah, yeah, we're hiding rockets in the junkyard, so sue us; they still have to find them and figure out how to use them and that's really the goal here, right? We're still called The Learning Channel at this point in the network's life, after all'.
 
2012-12-04 12:24:43 PM  

cgraves67: This is pretty much why I quit watching tv. They could have informative, educational shows about various jobs like gold miners, or a historical show about stuff in pawn shops, but no, we get hyped up, unrealistic melodrama by people who can't act while pretending to do the stuff I want to hear about.


You're just upset that they couldn't get the mother load out of the glory hole.

/lode
 
2012-12-04 12:25:58 PM  

basemetal: I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.


Yeah. I mean, what idiot doesn't think the majority (if not all) of the show is staged?

Barry is still entertaining as hell.
 
2012-12-04 12:27:27 PM  

DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!


Storage Wars is still real to me!!
 
2012-12-04 12:28:08 PM  

cgraves67: This is pretty much why I quit watching tv. They could have informative, educational shows about various jobs like gold miners, or a historical show about stuff in pawn shops, but no, we get hyped up, unrealistic melodrama by people who can't act while pretending to do the stuff I want to hear about.


Try Auction Kings. The crew (based out of Atlanta) is so nice to each other and gets along so well that they had to drag in a couple wiseguy pickers from Michigan once every couple episodes in Season 3 just to have some semblance of conflict.

It's on Discovery in a half hour if you want to give it a shot.
 
2012-12-04 12:28:17 PM  

basemetal: [celebritywonder.ugo.com image 399x600]

I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.


He reminds me of a less manic David Lee Roth.

And by less manic, I mean 'not so coked out of his mind'.
 
2012-12-04 12:31:24 PM  
Supposedly, my girlfriend's coworker is pretty good friends with Barry... According to what he was supposedly told, they definitely hide items in their own lockers and whatnot to make it more exciting. It's not very fun to watch people sort through old clothes and furniture in every episode.

Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?
 
2012-12-04 12:32:09 PM  

electronsexparty: basemetal: I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.

Yeah. I mean, what idiot doesn't think the majority (if not all) of the show is staged?

Barry is still entertaining as hell.


Barry doesn't give a rat's ass. He's not in it for the money (he already made his millions on other adventures), so when he's bidding it's cause he sees (or thinks he sees) something that might look good in his house.
 
2012-12-04 12:33:43 PM  
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Those are fake???
Actually, I'm okay with that.
 
2012-12-04 12:38:47 PM  
www.bladerunner2.net
I'd say for a replicant, Darrell's done alright.
 
2012-12-04 12:38:58 PM  

electronsexparty: basemetal: I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.

Yeah. I mean, what idiot doesn't think the majority (if not all) of the show is staged?

Barry is still entertaining as hell.


Yuuuuup.

And all the rest are Orange County Assholes.
 
2012-12-04 12:42:31 PM  
In four months, someone is going to announce the show "Amish Mafia" is fake? I wont believe it!
 
2012-12-04 12:43:43 PM  

DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!


Reality TV is like the early days of the WWE, when they all stayed in character all the time and Vince got really pissed when people broke character.
 
2012-12-04 12:44:07 PM  

AshCampbell: Supposedly, my girlfriend's coworker is pretty good friends with Barry... According to what he was supposedly told, they definitely hide items in their own lockers and whatnot to make it more exciting. It's not very fun to watch people sort through old clothes and furniture in every episode.

Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?


Didn't they say in that one special that, like, two-thirds of the lockers end up having porn in them?
 
2012-12-04 12:44:48 PM  

LeafyGreens: Dad told me this over thanksgiving holiday, since he & mom live in the town where Cajun Pawn Stars is filmed. Jimmy Deramus, the guy that owns the pawn store, offered to buy a rail car from a guy that works for a museum. Dad's on the board of the museum, and they filmed that entire show at the same museum.

Jimmy offers the guy $5k for the car, the guy agrees. Afterwards, no money or titles changed hands, nobody bought or sold anything. The only thing happening is the crew is filming a story to get people to watch. The amounts could be 100x as much for all the meaning they have.

The people involved have to sign an NDA, but small Southern town gossip > any NDA in the world.


I know a guy who has been on the regular Pawn Stars four times now and he got paid for three items he took them...he did have to sign the NDA, but he did get paid.

/fourth item was Nazi paraphenalia and apparently Harrison doesn't deal in Nazi stuff
 
2012-12-04 12:45:39 PM  
My "reality" tv CSS is when a friend was DP on a pilot pitch for a show about a normal guy living with sub-culture groups that took it to extremes beyond a normal fan. Like the Klingon people, the 501sters, people with elf-ears every day--- they started with people who claimed to be vampires (blood drinkers and energy drainers).

The 'real' vampires weren't camera friendly enough so the DP got a bunch of us costumers to show up in our goth/victorian/club gear and fill in for a vampire wedding. The director wanted us to act all hostile and rude to the normal guy. Didn't care that we were extras and not into the subculture. All staged, all pre-rigged except for our interactions with him. It was 'be upset that he's trying to butt into your scene.'.

Wheee. I did have fun saying his outfit looked like it came off the clearance rack at Hot Topic... when my husband's had as well.

Shame the show never got picked up. We would have shown up in the LARP episode too and wanted to see if the guy remembered we were at the vampire one.

/End CSS
 
2012-12-04 12:47:50 PM  
All these shows are fake, but that doesn't make them any less entertaining. You're trying to tell me that these guys just so happen to strike gold in these storage auctions as frequently as they do, in spite of the fact that 99% of the crap that gets left in storage by the time the unit makes it to auction is complete garbage?

Pawn Stars is another one, great show, love all the personalities on there, but there's no one, anywhere, bringing the Pope's shoes to a Pawn Shop, much less one located in a ghetto in Las Vegas.
 
2012-12-04 12:52:34 PM  
Also, I have to think that they're not ALL faked. I don't think anyone from A&E was exactly willing to step up and fill six decent-sized storage lockers with individually-bagged random knickknacks, for example. Not for one half-hour episode.

I do not, however, doubt that sooner or later someone is going to note that a lot of LA-area storage lockers are offered for $1 for the first month, lay down the dollar, build a prank locker and fill it up with a barrel of cat shiat or something and smear lard in a prominent position on the floor spelling out 'HA HA' and various other feats of creative disgust, and then just sit back and wait for the A&E cameras to find it.
 
2012-12-04 12:55:34 PM  

ConConHead: I miss The Colony. It was totally staged but the people's reactions were legit. Especially how stupid they were in the face of danger/starvation/raids by marauders. Oh look. All these power supplies and viable non-warped lumber was left behind! Oh, look, a boat without any holes and a motor which only needs rudimentary repairs to get running.

Oh look, you found this room upstairs which wasn't there on your previous explorations of the building!


They made a prequel to The Colony, Doomsday Preppers
 
2012-12-04 12:57:07 PM  
I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.
 
2012-12-04 12:57:24 PM  

spman: Pawn Stars is another one, great show, love all the personalities on there, but there's no one, anywhere, bringing the Pope's shoes to a Pawn Shop, much less one located in a ghetto in Las Vegas.


Why not? You do realize that most of the people use the show to advertise their shiat? Hell after a new episode airs, check eBay for any of the items that they don't buy (because they didn't offer enough or couldn't get a verification of it). Most of the time you'll find the item on there right after.

The LV Pawn Shop is not just a regular pawn store anymore.
 
2012-12-04 12:57:42 PM  

Gosling: Also, I have to think that they're not ALL faked. I don't think anyone from A&E was exactly willing to step up and fill six decent-sized storage lockers with individually-bagged random knickknacks, for example. Not for one half-hour episode.

I do not, however, doubt that sooner or later someone is going to note that a lot of LA-area storage lockers are offered for $1 for the first month, lay down the dollar, build a prank locker and fill it up with a barrel of cat shiat or something and smear lard in a prominent position on the floor spelling out 'HA HA' and various other feats of creative disgust, and then just sit back and wait for the A&E cameras to find it.


It's not that the entire locker is filled by the show/cast. They buy the locker like normal, and then if nothing fun is in there, they add their own fun items they already owned and brought with them so that they can "discover" this awesome thing in the locker.
 
2012-12-04 12:58:14 PM  

Gosling: Also, I have to think that they're not ALL faked. I don't think anyone from A&E was exactly willing to step up and fill six decent-sized storage lockers with individually-bagged random knickknacks, for example. Not for one half-hour episode.

I do not, however, doubt that sooner or later someone is going to note that a lot of LA-area storage lockers are offered for $1 for the first month, lay down the dollar, build a prank locker and fill it up with a barrel of cat shiat or something and smear lard in a prominent position on the floor spelling out 'HA HA' and various other feats of creative disgust, and then just sit back and wait for the A&E cameras to find it.


Cut up some wood and paint it to look like gold bars. Then buy about $50 of crap(or even someone else's locker), fill up your new locker, and hide a "bar" or two, but make sure they are partially visible.
 
2012-12-04 12:59:50 PM  

AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?


Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.
 
2012-12-04 01:03:13 PM  

Funbags: They made a prequel to The Colony, Doomsday Preppers


My sister watches that show to get ideas. /sigh
 
2012-12-04 01:03:58 PM  
No Sh@t
 
2012-12-04 01:07:20 PM  
I don't see reality shows ending anytime soon. People eat them up and they cost nothing to make. It's like "found footage" movies.

You stick a camera in front of a white trash family and tell people it's entertainment and they devour it. Set up a web cam and have actor jump at it a few times and call it a horror film, $20mill opening.

This is where we're at.
 
2012-12-04 01:10:13 PM  
as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.
 
2012-12-04 01:12:37 PM  

grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.


Agreed - they filmed MTVs "The Real World" here in town this year. The cast actually worked at the bar across from my place so I got to know them fairly well. I watched the "action" happen first hand and even hung out with a few of the guys with the cameras around going out on the town. I'm very interested in how the story will change from the fairly benign drinking and chilling into hi-drama. Even talking to the local producers they were planning on making some of the cast the 'hero' and others the 'villain' based on editing. They would prompt the cast to do things they didn't really want to do to enhance the drama. I wasn't really impressed but one of the girls was super hot. Of course she used to work at Hooter's in AZ.

/signed so many waivers I'm sure my ugly mug will be on tv next fall, even just in the background.
 
2012-12-04 01:18:12 PM  
mystery diners is the worst offender, you can see microphones on the alleged bad guys on the hidden camera views.

Funny!
 
2012-12-04 01:20:50 PM  

Mugato: I don't see reality shows ending anytime soon. People eat them up and they cost nothing to make. It's like "found footage" movies.

You stick a camera in front of a white trash family and tell people it's entertainment and they devour it. Set up a web cam and have actor jump at it a few times and call it a horror film, $20mill opening.

This is where we're at.


Yep. And from what I see, even AMC channel doesn't seem to be trying to develop any more shows like Breaking Bad or Mad Men and instead going for "reality" shows about disfigured people and taxidermy. I just want to watch good stories crafted by talented people, not poorly disguised reality made by non-professionals. Why the fark am I in the minority on this?
 
2012-12-04 01:22:02 PM  

miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.


What shows (reality) did you work on?
 
2012-12-04 01:22:21 PM  
How does the "they are the only ones bidding" get answered? Or is that just another obvious inconsistency?
 
2012-12-04 01:23:34 PM  
What's wrong with enjoying a show that's easy to digest, pairs well with an after work smoke, and sometimes teaches you a thing or two about antiques?

Fake or no, it entertains me. So fark the haters.
 
2012-12-04 01:23:35 PM  

Mugato: I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.


I watch comic book men to see some of the stuff people bring in, as I like comics. However, their "third act" non-comic stuff(zombie run, auctioning, ghosts) is unwatchable, fake bullshiat. Stan Lee was pretty cool, though.
 
2012-12-04 01:23:43 PM  

browntimmy: Why the fark am I in the minority on this?


i830.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-04 01:24:43 PM  
A lot of DERP in this thread. There is a big difference between fake and creative editing. Of course they edit it to make it seem more interesting. Nobody wants to watch a documentary about these people standing around all afternoon bidding on lockers full of trash. You have to edit out the boring. WOW WHAT A REVELATION.

Same thing with the "they find treasure in each episode". No they don't. There are lots of episodes where the best thing somebody gets is some trinket worth a few hundred dollars. A lot of times it is just money based on furniture and other miscellaneous items. It isn't like every episode has a 13th century medieval sword in a locker or something. Not even close.

They don't show the boring stuff because it is only 20 minutes of TV time per episode. They go out and film probably 1 or 2 days worth of material and then give you only the basic stuff. Are the producers sometimes coaching the people on what to talk about? Of course they are. What the hell do you think those interviews are all about? That doesn't mean that they weren't actually bidding on lockers and dealing with the reality of that.

The one thing I don't like is the idea that they may have dropped items into the lockers. If I found out that is true I will stop watching the show (same with Man Vs Wild when they finally stated that Bear is not spending the night in the wilderness). But all of the other stuff people are complaining about is pretty basic TV stuff. I'm not sure what world you people live in, but TV is edited, HURR DURR
 
2012-12-04 01:25:09 PM  

Strategeryz0r: What's wrong with enjoying a show that's easy to digest, pairs well with an after work smoke, and sometimes teaches you a thing or two about antiques?


The fact that you think it's teaching you something.
 
2012-12-04 01:26:50 PM  

Gosling: Generation_D: Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.

I remember that show. They came right out and said they seeded the junkyard so that the teams would have the correct material to actually build stuff. And reseeded it every episode. You either dump a boat propeller in the junkyard for teams to use- one that would pass an inspection as being safe to use- or nobody's building a boat that day and you have no show. I remember one where they had to make a rocket to shoot an egg into the air and bring it down safely where they just said at the start of the show 'yeah, yeah, we're hiding rockets in the junkyard, so sue us; they still have to find them and figure out how to use them and that's really the goal here, right? We're still called The Learning Channel at this point in the network's life, after all'.


They did the same thing for an episode on steam powered cars. Apparently they didn't want the teams slapping together some rudimentary boilers, what with all the potential for explosions and death and what have you. Craziness, I know.
 
2012-12-04 01:27:19 PM  

grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.


The Muthbusters have had to cancel a few myths because of that. I recall an airplane one that got cancelled after they were already on site at the plane graveyard, the day before they were supposed to test the myth.
 
2012-12-04 01:27:50 PM  
I remember watching this show about running hotels and it seemed pretty legit. Then there was this scene that was just blatantly staged. Like, "This 'random' dude just happened to be mic'd up"-staged. Then I stopped watching it. Like, even if you're giving me actual, good information, if you blatantly bullshiat me on one thing, just one thing, how am suppose to believe that everything else you're telling me is real? TV is the greatest illusion in the world.
 
2012-12-04 01:30:27 PM  
I knew the whole thing was fake when they brought in Hester's stand in for a few eps. There is no way, no way, that Mark Belao (sp?) as acted would have survived into adulthood.
 
2012-12-04 01:30:44 PM  

browntimmy: I just want to watch good stories crafted by talented people, not poorly disguised reality made by non-professionals. Why the fark am I in the minority on this?


I think a lot of it involves shows about farked up people so the audience tunes in to feel better about themselves. Not that I don't think reality shows are fake, I think they are but they're also about people that the audience can feel better about themselves about.

Sure there's American Idol and Star Search or whatever the fark that shiat, someone wins but people always say that the best parts are the starting auditions, where people make fools of themselves. Or the show where Donald Trump or some random skank humiliates someone.

Like I said, I started watching Face/Off because they had some genuinely talented make-up artists but some suit said the ratings weren't good enough so they brought in some Simon Cowell-type douchebag to berate them and make them cry. That's what people want. Or that's what they think people want.
 
2012-12-04 01:32:04 PM  

grinding_journalist: Strategeryz0r: What's wrong with enjoying a show that's easy to digest, pairs well with an after work smoke, and sometimes teaches you a thing or two about antiques?

The fact that you think it's teaching you something.


When they find interesting little trinkets that they get checked out. You learn a few things here or there about spotting fakes and the like. It's kind of interesting really. Not unlike Pawn Stars.

I'm in no way an advocate of reality TV(my wife tried to get me to watch Honey Boo Boo once. I walked away after the intro to go do something more productive.. like masterbate). But in the grand scheme of things, if someone is going to make reality shows, at least something like Storage Wars or Pawn Stars serves as a relatively interesting filler show that is leaps and bounds above crap reality TV like America's Got Talent, Intervention, Survivor, etc, etc, etc. Could go on and on and on.

I think crap like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars actually have some interesting angles to them, fake or no. And yes, it's not often but you can learn something from them. Whether it be history, how to spot fakes(like Brandi's tits), or just how worthless something you think might be valuable really is.
 
2012-12-04 01:32:29 PM  

Foxxinnia: I remember watching this show about running hotels and it seemed pretty legit. Then there was this scene that was just blatantly staged. Like, "This 'random' dude just happened to be mic'd up"-staged. Then I stopped watching it. Like, even if you're giving me actual, good information, if you blatantly bullshiat me on one thing, just one thing, how am suppose to believe that everything else you're telling me is real? TV is the greatest illusion in the world.


On last night's show, the the owner and the "new" general manager were blatantly reading off cue cards.
 
2012-12-04 01:34:49 PM  

ScreamingLemur46: They did the same thing for an episode on steam powered cars. Apparently they didn't want the teams slapping together some rudimentary boilers, what with all the potential for explosions and death and what have you. Craziness, I know.


The one thing I miss most from Junkyard Wars, though: seriously, Cathy Rogers dropped off TV entirely after that and Full Metal Challenge. Apparently decided to run off to Italy and run an olive grove. I liked her.
 
2012-12-04 01:39:49 PM  
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Posted that in the other Storage Wars thread today. Which raises the question, why are there even 2 greenlit threads about this faker than fake show?
 
2012-12-04 01:40:15 PM  

Strategeryz0r: But in the grand scheme of things, if someone is going to make reality shows, at least something like Storage Wars or Pawn Stars serves as a relatively interesting filler show that is leaps and bounds above crap reality TV like America's Got Talent, Intervention, Survivor, etc, etc, etc. Could go on and on and on.


Yeah, there's definitely a difference between reality shows about things people are interested in (the aforementioned Face/Off before they dramatized it) or Mythbusters or shows about rebuilding houses or cars and shows that just showcase freaks for people to laugh at.
 
2012-12-04 01:40:30 PM  
I like the episode where you can see Barry giving Brandi some cash while they stepped out of an abandoned storage unit together in the background, while Jarrod talked about doilies in his thrift store to the cameras.
 
2012-12-04 01:41:50 PM  

Strategeryz0r: grinding_journalist: Strategeryz0r: What's wrong with enjoying a show that's easy to digest, pairs well with an after work smoke, and sometimes teaches you a thing or two about antiques?

The fact that you think it's teaching you something.

When they find interesting little trinkets that they get checked out. You learn a few things here or there about spotting fakes and the like. It's kind of interesting really. Not unlike Pawn Stars.

I'm in no way an advocate of reality TV(my wife tried to get me to watch Honey Boo Boo once. I walked away after the intro to go do something more productive.. like masterbate). But in the grand scheme of things, if someone is going to make reality shows, at least something like Storage Wars or Pawn Stars serves as a relatively interesting filler show that is leaps and bounds above crap reality TV like America's Got Talent, Intervention, Survivor, etc, etc, etc. Could go on and on and on.

I think crap like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars actually have some interesting angles to them, fake or no. And yes, it's not often but you can learn something from them. Whether it be history, how to spot fakes(like Brandi's tits), or just how worthless something you think might be valuable really is.


You should've just stayed and started fapping on the spot. That'll probably get her to never watch that POS show evar again.
 
2012-12-04 01:46:29 PM  

mjbok: miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.

What shows (reality) did you work on?


I did post for a series that ran on IFC, which included transcribing work and editing. There was a pilot for a Project Runway type show that I worked on pre-production thru post. there was a legit docu mini series. a bunch of other stuff. nothing like the real housewives or anything, but i know lots of people who work on stuff like that. there is a pretty big gap in terms of misery level from reality production to scripted production.
 
2012-12-04 01:48:58 PM  
Well, all I know is Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is real. I don't live in Georgia, but the next best (worst) place, and southwestern Pennsylvania is full of these extra-chromosome types.
 
2012-12-04 01:51:01 PM  
You guys know a lot about reality tv for people who don't like it.

/enjoys duck call dynasty.
 
2012-12-04 01:52:05 PM  

JerseyTim: Once I start an episode, I can's top.

I like when they try to make Darrell act like he's mad at his son. He's just so bad at it.


Yeah, that was such a nonsensical angle. What were they thinking? I watch Storage Wars for the same reason I watch Antiques Roadshow: I like cool old stuff. All the artifice surrounding it is crap, though I guess some people are tuning in for "drama."
 
2012-12-04 01:53:00 PM  

PsyLord: Strategeryz0r: grinding_journalist: Strategeryz0r: What's wrong with enjoying a show that's easy to digest, pairs well with an after work smoke, and sometimes teaches you a thing or two about antiques?

The fact that you think it's teaching you something.

When they find interesting little trinkets that they get checked out. You learn a few things here or there about spotting fakes and the like. It's kind of interesting really. Not unlike Pawn Stars.

I'm in no way an advocate of reality TV(my wife tried to get me to watch Honey Boo Boo once. I walked away after the intro to go do something more productive.. like masterbate). But in the grand scheme of things, if someone is going to make reality shows, at least something like Storage Wars or Pawn Stars serves as a relatively interesting filler show that is leaps and bounds above crap reality TV like America's Got Talent, Intervention, Survivor, etc, etc, etc. Could go on and on and on.

I think crap like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars actually have some interesting angles to them, fake or no. And yes, it's not often but you can learn something from them. Whether it be history, how to spot fakes(like Brandi's tits), or just how worthless something you think might be valuable really is.

You should've just stayed and started fapping on the spot. That'll probably get her to never watch that POS show evar again.


That show is one massive boner killer. Hard to fap with that next to me.
 
2012-12-04 01:53:39 PM  
i.cdn.turner.com

What?!?! No mention of MMEEEEEE!
 
2012-12-04 01:57:15 PM  

Another Government Employee: electronsexparty: basemetal: I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.

Yeah. I mean, what idiot doesn't think the majority (if not all) of the show is staged?

Barry is still entertaining as hell.

Yuuuuup.

And all the rest are Orange County Assholes.


Orange County Assholes sounds like a good premise for a reality show about a proctology/endoscopy practice. If they can do a show about people who run a tattoo parlor, why not that?

Bonus: Since Dave's soon to be out of work, he could guest spot on OCA and go "yuuuuup!" every time they find a cancerous polyp in some old dude's bunghole.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:25 PM  
I have wanted them to run into these guys

lastheplace.com
 
2012-12-04 02:00:54 PM  

ferretman: [i.cdn.turner.com image 215x222]

What?!?! No mention of MMEEEEEE!


Now THAT is just a terrible, trashy, scripted show. Everything about it just drips fake.
 
2012-12-04 02:00:54 PM  

ferretman: [i.cdn.turner.com image 215x222]

What?!?! No mention of MMEEEEEE!


Oh, fark that. Everyone knows Tru TV isn't.
 
2012-12-04 02:06:51 PM  

TheraTx: I have wanted them to run into these guys

[lastheplace.com image 460x378]


I wonder how many mint condition 1870 S&W pistols are in that locker.
 
2012-12-04 02:08:27 PM  

ManateeGag: did watching Darrel Sheets get shafted on the magic cards he found.


Oh that was funny. I was watching with my wife and calling out names of the cards and prices when he found them. Dude got shafted BIG TIME, he would have gotten 3-4X as much if he had taken them to a convention or something.
 
2012-12-04 02:09:30 PM  

TheraTx: I have wanted them to run into these guys


To be fair, on THAT show, there is a disclaimer that 80-90% of the stuff they buy is trash, and the show chronicles their most interesting and rare finds.
 
2012-12-04 02:09:56 PM  
I was buying and selling storage units when this show came on the air, and I hate it. It ruined a perfectly entertaining way to make a few extra bucks.

You would bid and buy against the same group of a dozen or so people in the caravan, eBay the shiat out of some stuff, and either donate or dump most of it, and it was a good time.

Then this show came on the air, and all of a sudden there are a hundred goddamn people in the storage caravan, none of whom know WTF they're doing, driving the prices of everything through the roof. You really want to pay $200 for that stack of wet cardboard boxes? OK lady, I guess you saw it on TV.
 
2012-12-04 02:11:46 PM  
Bullshiat, next you'll be telling us the black folks on Hardcore Pawn don't really act like that.
 
2012-12-04 02:11:47 PM  

ferretman: [i.cdn.turner.com image 215x222]

What?!?! No mention of MMEEEEEE!


Funny Jew with two mutant offspring!
 
2012-12-04 02:12:56 PM  

Rent Party: I was buying and selling storage units when this show came on the air, and I hate it. It ruined a perfectly entertaining way to make a few extra bucks.

You would bid and buy against the same group of a dozen or so people in the caravan, eBay the shiat out of some stuff, and either donate or dump most of it, and it was a good time.

Then this show came on the air, and all of a sudden there are a hundred goddamn people in the storage caravan, none of whom know WTF they're doing, driving the prices of everything through the roof. You really want to pay $200 for that stack of wet cardboard boxes? OK lady, I guess you saw it on TV.


Same thing happened with extreme couponing. My mother used to get triple coupon days + rewards etc and end up feeding my family for pennies on the dollar growing up. Now that show came along and stores slashed their policies so that it's not nearly as cost effective as it once was. It still saves her money but these schmucks buy 2 metric tons of toothpaste for 3$ and ruin it for everyone.
 
2012-12-04 02:13:35 PM  

fat boy: Bullshiat, next you'll be telling us the black folks on Hardcore Pawn don't really act like that.


I went to university a mile from his store, they really do.

/sadly, that show is one of the most realistic of them all
 
2012-12-04 02:15:25 PM  

ManateeGag: yeah, I love what they are doing with Pawn Stars and trying to create a Paul Sr/Paul Jr. scenario.


That is such horseshiat. Nobody in their right mind would hire that dumbass to scrub a toilet. He's even terrible at negotiating prices and has no idea what a lot of stuff is worth. I know every ounce of "drama" on that show is manufactured, so if I'm watching it on DVR I skip from item appraisal to item appraisal.

I like Comic Book Men because I used to work in a comic book store and while I never really was much of a collector, I have some favorites.
 
2012-12-04 02:17:18 PM  
Think this 'article' is a contrived P.R. stunt to cause a rating spike for the show?

YUUUUUUUUUUUP.
 
2012-12-04 02:19:08 PM  
Well, I mean, come on. Of course it's fake.

The four official teams are always surrounded by a hundred or so other "bidders." By now, the show has been on long enough that everyone there knows who they are and what they're doing. How could they ever win another auction? Someone crowd would take it away from them every single time, just for shiats and giggles and bragging rights. One of the characters would bid $10 and the random extras would have bid it up to $1000 before another character could say "$20."

The other dead giveaway is resale professionals acting as though there's any point whatsoever in bidding the other guy up and making him pay more, unless you're in cahoots with the auctioneer. It's not even close to a zero-sum game. I don't know about the storage locker game, but in certain other kinds of auctions, the auction company would throw your ass out for even joking about doing something like that.

/cahoots
 
2012-12-04 02:20:05 PM  

LeafyGreens: Dad told me this over thanksgiving holiday, since he & mom live in the town where Cajun Pawn Stars is filmed. Jimmy Deramus, the guy that owns the pawn store, offered to buy a rail car from a guy that works for a museum. Dad's on the board of the museum, and they filmed that entire show at the same museum.

Jimmy offers the guy $5k for the car, the guy agrees. Afterwards, no money or titles changed hands, nobody bought or sold anything. The only thing happening is the crew is filming a story to get people to watch. The amounts could be 100x as much for all the meaning they have.

The people involved have to sign an NDA, but small Southern town gossip > any NDA in the world.


I got family down there myself. A now-deceased familial relation of mine was a prominent citizen in that town for decades, and I was the inheritor of his 1911 he took through the pacific campaign. We were contacted by the show to bring it in, similar to the traincar, for an expose. We declined however, but I do give them credit for espousing local history.
 
2012-12-04 02:25:08 PM  
Interesting? A reality show without any reality? Interesting, not obvious? Really Subby? Really Submitard? Really you farking moron? You farkihg piece of amaewiryaj farkign sohothj godadjadsjlfkl'asd;fj'....


fark YOU AND fark AMERICAN TELEVISION YOU SONOFAbiatch!


/i just want to strangle the entertainment industry in its sleep
 
2012-12-04 02:26:47 PM  

toetag: In four months, someone is going to announce the show "Amish Mafia" is fake? I wont believe it!


THIS.

I really don't get this show...they really want people to believe it's real? They are at Blair Witch levels of "reality" with this one. So obviously fake, yet they are insisting that it's real. Really, I don't get it.
 
2012-12-04 02:29:03 PM  
media.giantbomb.com
All reality shows are scripted and fake.
 
2012-12-04 02:34:08 PM  

Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.


Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.
 
2012-12-04 02:35:02 PM  
We had two different 'reality' shows taped at our Level 1 trauma center in New Orleans. The trauma was always real enough; but almost everything else was complete fabrication. Asshole MD's and RN's who often had little more than contempt for their indigent, 'urban' population could not wait to glam up and hog camera time to deliver unfelt soliloquies on the state of inner-city crime, drunk driving, and street violence. Fark all 'reality' TV in the arse. It is the worst. That, and the 'talent shows' are making America stupider by the minute.
 
2012-12-04 02:37:12 PM  
oi44.tinypic.com
Are we not entertained?
 
2012-12-04 02:38:26 PM  

miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.


No shiat sherlock. I didn't need you to tell me any of that. It's obvious. Tell us something we don't know about "reality TV." The bottom line is that many people find reality TV to be entertaining and they buy into the reality myth because they enjoy it.
 
2012-12-04 02:41:37 PM  

Gosling: The one thing I miss most from Junkyard Wars, though: seriously, Cathy Rogers



static.ddmcdn.com 

I'd wreck that.
 
2012-12-04 02:45:52 PM  
These guys have ruined a particular business model that involves a lot of sweat and work and risk by making it look easy and profitable.

It used to be you could pick up a packed storage locker for $100-$150 bucks, and it would be you and five other guys looking for inventory for your flea market stall, antique mall space, or consignment stores. Now it's you and five hundred guys looking for jackpot lockers, thousand dollar bids on stalls with a household worth of goods you'd be spending a week moving out and a month unloading.
 
2012-12-04 02:48:14 PM  

wildcardjack: It used to be you could pick up a packed storage locker for $100-$150 bucks, and it would be you and five other guys looking for inventory for your flea market stall, antique mall space, or consignment stores. Now it's you and five hundred guys looking for jackpot lockers, thousand dollar bids on stalls with a household worth of goods you'd be spending a week moving out and a month unloading.


But Dave Hester says that the $1000 stall with an entire house can be resold for $3000! I'm stupid NOT to bid!!

/they're stupid to bid
 
2012-12-04 02:49:29 PM  
Of course it's fake. The companies do it because it makes money, that's the reason it's on TV.

Everyone knows it's fake, and everyone knows that making money is all that matters. Everyone accepts that everything on TV is fiction or staged. It's done to make a profit, it's not a secret.

And yet, some still insist that sports are "real".
 
2012-12-04 02:49:31 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.

Agreed - they filmed MTVs "The Real World" here in town this year. The cast actually worked at the bar across from my place so I got to know them fairly well. I watched the "action" happen first hand and even hung out with a few of the guys with the cameras around going out on the town. I'm very interested in how the story will change from the fairly benign drinking and chilling into hi-drama. Even talking to the local producers they were planning on making some of the cast the 'hero' and others the 'villain' based on editing. They would prompt the cast to do things they didn't really want to do to enhance the drama. I wasn't really impressed but one of the girls was super hot. Of course she used to work at Hooter's in AZ.

/signed so many waivers I'm sure my ugly mug will be on tv next fall, even just in the background.


I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.
 
2012-12-04 02:49:59 PM  
Now what's all this about a chick with big boobs?
 
2012-12-04 02:50:01 PM  

orclover: Interesting? A reality show without any reality? Interesting, not obvious? Really Subby? Really Submitard? Really you farking moron? You farkihg piece of amaewiryaj farkign sohothj godadjadsjlfkl'asd;fj'....


fark YOU AND fark AMERICAN TELEVISION YOU SONOFAbiatch!


/i just want to strangle the entertainment industry in its sleep


firedaily.com
 
2012-12-04 02:51:29 PM  
totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-04 02:51:50 PM  

Gig103: wildcardjack: It used to be you could pick up a packed storage locker for $100-$150 bucks, and it would be you and five other guys looking for inventory for your flea market stall, antique mall space, or consignment stores. Now it's you and five hundred guys looking for jackpot lockers, thousand dollar bids on stalls with a household worth of goods you'd be spending a week moving out and a month unloading.

But Dave Hester says that the $1000 stall with an entire house can be resold for $3000! I'm stupid NOT to bid!!

/they're stupid to bid


Right after this show came on the air, I watched three or four lockers full of household goods go for upwards of $500. I'm like "Lady, you know that most of the shiat in this locker is shiat, right? It's someone's sheets and Tupperware, right? Most of it is going to Goodwill, right? If it wasn't crap, it wouldn't be in a storage locker. You know that? WTF ARE YOU DOING?!!"

People piss me off.
 
2012-12-04 02:53:14 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.

Agreed - they filmed MTVs "The Real World" here in town this year. The cast actually worked at the bar across from my place so I got to know them fairly well. I watched the "action" happen first hand and even hung out with a few of the guys with the cameras around going out on the town. I'm very interested in how the story will change from the fairly benign drinking and chilling into hi-drama. Even talking to the local producers they were planning on making some of the cast the 'hero' and others the 'villain' based on editing. They would prompt the cast to do things they didn't really want to do to enhance the drama. I wasn't really impressed but one of the girls was super hot. Of course she used to work at Hooter's in AZ.

/signed so many waivers I'm sure my ugly mug will be on tv next fall, even just in the background.


Being that reality TV participants on shows like the one you mentioned are natural-born attention whores, I don't imagine anything, especially raunchy and entitled behavior, takes much "prompting."
 
2012-12-04 02:53:16 PM  

mcreadyblue: I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.


You live in Portland Oregon?

/cause that's where I live
 
2012-12-04 02:54:48 PM  

semiotix: Well, I mean, come on. Of course it's fake.

The four official teams are always surrounded by a hundred or so other "bidders." By now, the show has been on long enough that everyone there knows who they are and what they're doing. How could they ever win another auction? Someone crowd would take it away from them every single time, just for shiats and giggles and bragging rights. One of the characters would bid $10 and the random extras would have bid it up to $1000 before another character could say "$20."


It does happen; they just don't show it. Brandi addressed it in a print interview and said that this was an issue starting in Season 2. People would show up at the auctions and bid up to ridiculous levels because they apparently had never heard of editing and thought that winning a locker would get them on television.

On a related note, they always film one extra segment on Undercover Boss that they don't use in the final production. If you watch the final portion of the show (with the assembled employees) you'll always see someone standing in with the group of selected employees. It seems that it's usually a minority (*insert shocked face here*) that gets cut from the show.
 
2012-12-04 02:56:07 PM  
The thing that always bothered me about the show is their estimations of value. You're looking at a used five year old Sony receiver and they're saying it's 200 bucks. Mid line receiver, no HDMI, no remote, etc, you'd be lucky to get 100 bucks. For things I could price out they're high. I'm guessing other stuff they over estimate also.
 
2012-12-04 02:58:33 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com image 401x271]


I heard Darrel found a dead body in storage.Freaked him out.Still doesn't talk about it.
 
2012-12-04 02:58:47 PM  
The one on Spike TV, with Alan and Ton (i don't remember the show's name offhand and don't feel like looking it up) had a special at the end of the first season. They specifically said that maybe 1 in every 10 lockers they bought had anything of value. And maybe 1 in every 10 of those had something good enough to put on TV. So basically for every "Oh my god, look at what we found!!" locker you'd see on TV, there were 99 lockers that you didn't see. But their show wasn't about the loser lockers, it was about the 1% that had something great.
 
2012-12-04 02:58:57 PM  

Gig103: wildcardjack: It used to be you could pick up a packed storage locker for $100-$150 bucks, and it would be you and five other guys looking for inventory for your flea market stall, antique mall space, or consignment stores. Now it's you and five hundred guys looking for jackpot lockers, thousand dollar bids on stalls with a household worth of goods you'd be spending a week moving out and a month unloading.

But Dave Hester says that the $1000 stall with an entire house can be resold for $3000! I'm stupid NOT to bid!!

/they're stupid to bid


Dave Hester closed his resale shop.

Storage Wars may be his only job now.
 
2012-12-04 03:00:19 PM  

Mugato: I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.


Comic Book Men pisses me off to no end. And it's RIDICULOUSLY staged. I live nearby and used to frequent that shop for years--at least once a month, if not more--for over a decade. Mike is there 90% of the time. I have seen Walt a handful of times and Ming maybe twice. (Oddly, I've seen Bryan there a bunch of times but just assumed he was homeless and Mike was being a nice guy). The store is usually dead. Even on Wednesdays (new comic book day), there are MAYBE 2 or 3 people in the store at any one time. Nobody has ever come in to have anything appraised. It's not a bad shop and I've never had a problem there.

But goddammit, the way they treat customers on that show and talk about them behind their backs! Fine, you guys want to be douchebags, especially to the girls, fark you. I'll go to the shop in Toms River.

/The zombie episode was the last straw. "Don't give the flyer to her! She's wearing Uggs & has a Coach bag--she's not our demographic!"
//Fark you, assholes. We goddamn well ARE your demographic! Who else do you think can afford a $50/week comic habit like "Ugg-wearing, Coach-carrying" chicks?
 
2012-12-04 03:00:31 PM  
OMG IT's FAKE???

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-04 03:01:02 PM  

mjbok: You're looking at a used five year old Sony receiver and they're saying it's 200 bucks. Mid line receiver, no HDMI, no remote, etc, you'd be lucky to get 100 bucks.

 
2012-12-04 03:02:19 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.

No shiat sherlock. I didn't need you to tell me any of that. It's obvious. Tell us something we don't know about "reality TV." The bottom line is that many people find reality TV to be entertaining and they buy into the reality myth because they enjoy it.


But I want to understand why they enjoy watching the Kardashians badly act their way through an obviously phony plot imagined by some hack producer. Why not something made by talented and experienced professionals?
 
2012-12-04 03:02:30 PM  

Rent Party: Gig103: wildcardjack: It used to be you could pick up a packed storage locker for $100-$150 bucks, and it would be you and five other guys looking for inventory for your flea market stall, antique mall space, or consignment stores. Now it's you and five hundred guys looking for jackpot lockers, thousand dollar bids on stalls with a household worth of goods you'd be spending a week moving out and a month unloading.

But Dave Hester says that the $1000 stall with an entire house can be resold for $3000! I'm stupid NOT to bid!!

/they're stupid to bid

Right after this show came on the air, I watched three or four lockers full of household goods go for upwards of $500. I'm like "Lady, you know that most of the shiat in this locker is shiat, right? It's someone's sheets and Tupperware, right? Most of it is going to Goodwill, right? If it wasn't crap, it wouldn't be in a storage locker. You know that? WTF ARE YOU DOING?!!"

People piss me off.


I read your reply in Darryl's voice.
 
2012-12-04 03:03:09 PM  
I am sure that Hardcore Pawn has a lot of staging, but I am afraid that much of the crazy behavior you see on that show is real. Put desperate people from 8 mile in a situation where they feel like they are being cheated by "the man", and you will witness this sort of craziness. It would not surprise me if whatever network offers a bonus for freaking out.

And Ashley is a biatch.
 
2012-12-04 03:04:15 PM  

DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!


WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!
 
2012-12-04 03:04:43 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: And maybe 1 in every 10 of those had something good enough to put on TV. So basically for every "Oh my god, look at what we found!!" locker you'd see on TV, there were 99 lockers that you didn't see. But their show wasn't about the loser lockers, it was about the 1% that had something great.


I never lost money on a locker and I've ended up with everything from motorcycles to meth labs. I wasn't trying to make a living at it, though, so I had the benefit of time to liquidate. There's some queues you can take to decide if you're going to bid or not.

1. Is there anything obvious?
2. Understand that 90% of what you buy is going to be disposed of, so have a disposal plan.
3. How is shiat packed? Is it crumbled cardboard boxes? That's garbage. Is it nicely packed and stacked plastic tubs? Whoever put it there wanted to protect whatever is inside.
4. Is the unit itself neatly stacked? Poor trash that got their trailer repoed will throw shiat in last second. People looking to keep grandma and grandpa's stuff around will put it away nicely.
5. Are you surrounded by morons or professionals? Morons will drive the price of crap up, making it not worth the risk. Pros will drive the price of good stuff up, so bid accordingly. Learn who is who.
 
2012-12-04 03:04:59 PM  

Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um Barry.... I'd say the chick is good to look at, but she's farking annoying too.


I had to butcher it but it's fixed for you.
 
2012-12-04 03:07:37 PM  

LeafyGreens: Jimmy offers the guy $5k for the car, the guy agrees. Afterwards, no money or titles changed hands, nobody bought or sold anything. The only thing happening is the crew is filming a story to get people to watch. The amounts could be 100x as much for all the meaning they have.


Same deal with Shark Tank. None of the offers made in those sessions are binding. Neither the shark nor the seller is under any obligation to do anything.
 
2012-12-04 03:08:38 PM  

W.C.fields forever: Jim from Saint Paul: [totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com image 401x271]

I heard Darrel found a dead body in storage.Freaked him out.Still doesn't talk about it.


I heard Darrell suggest he could get $200 for it. Freaked Dave out.
 
2012-12-04 03:13:15 PM  

No Line For Beer: People would show up at the auctions and bid up to ridiculous levels because they apparently had never heard of editing and thought that winning a locker would get them on television.


Even so, the bid sequences are mostly two or three of the official characters going up in regular intervals. I just don't see a hundred other people sitting quietly on their hands when the "celebrity" bidders are going head-to-head. So either the auctions are fair and the "bidding" is staged after the fact to conform to the script ("Oooh, Darryl got outfoxed by Dave again!" but really it was just Dave bidding against a hundred mooks), or they have special show-only auctions that the other attendees are allowed to watch but not participate in.

I'm not really complaining; it's as good a way to waste half an hour as any. But I'm not sure why they're trying to pretend it's real.
 
2012-12-04 03:16:21 PM  

grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.


CSS: A friend of mine was on Four Weddings (hers was the Halloween Wedding where the guests all went to a haunted house after the reception). During every interview aired for the show, she said the producers kept asking the same questions, trying to get a very specific answer from her. Since she was the oldest of the 4 brides (mid-30s where the others were 20-somethings), they decided she'd be the "bitter, catty one". And she absolutely refused to play ball. The producers then did a quick huddle and came back again with slightly re-worded questions, now intent on making her the "stuck-up biatch". At that point, after being trapped in the interview for over 2 hours, she did whatever they told her, just to get away from them. She likened it to a police interrogation.

Another friend is an extra--she's shown up in a laundry list of shows & commercials (and is on the set of Elementary right now). She's also been a dinner guest on Hell's Kitchen, sat for a tattoo in NY Ink, ordered a cake on Cake Boss, and a couple of stints on The Apprentice (usually part of the crowd buying whatever the contestants are hawking), She recently did Restaurant Stakeout but isn't allowed to tell which restaurant until it airs.
 
2012-12-04 03:16:23 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com image 401x271]


I'm still 99% sure that Darrell is John McAfee in disguise

www.independent.co.uk

/Belize officials will never think to look on cable TV
 
2012-12-04 03:19:44 PM  
 
2012-12-04 03:20:12 PM  
Next you'll be telling me that the girls on Backroom Casting Couch know exactly what they've signed up for when they walk in the room.

/OK, it's still real enough for me.
 
2012-12-04 03:26:55 PM  

Radak: FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

I'm with you on most of that, but I'll step up to defend The Amazing Race. That's a really good reality show and if they're faking anything beyond a little creative editing, they've fooled me for years.


How about when they managed to get a couple on a plane that was already taxiing out to the active runway?

Was a finale and might have been the first Boston Rob series. The lead couple on the plane ended up losing to the ones managed to be shoehorned in.

That was the season I stopped watching regularly. Up until then I enjoyed as you described.
 
2012-12-04 03:27:55 PM  

rooftop235: DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!

WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!


BAH GAW KING! THAT'S HESTERS MUSIC!

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BAH GAWD KING! THAT'S STONE COLD'S MUSIC!

BUISNESS IS DAMN SURE ABOUT TO PICK UP!

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STONE COLD IS GOING TO JAIL!

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WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!

media.tumblr.com

/~fin
 
2012-12-04 03:29:23 PM  

Rent Party: I was buying and selling storage units when this show came on the air, and I hate it. It ruined a perfectly entertaining way to make a few extra bucks.

You would bid and buy against the same group of a dozen or so people in the caravan, eBay the shiat out of some stuff, and either donate or dump most of it, and it was a good time.

Then this show came on the air, and all of a sudden there are a hundred goddamn people in the storage caravan, none of whom know WTF they're doing, driving the prices of everything through the roof. You really want to pay $200 for that stack of wet cardboard boxes? OK lady, I guess you saw it on TV.


Well, that would have to be its own kind of entertaining, wouldn't it? Stand up on your tippy-toes, make an offhand remark about 'something shiny in the back', and then sit back and watch the fun.
 
KoC
2012-12-04 03:29:44 PM  

brigid_fitch: Mugato: I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.

Comic Book Men pisses me off to no end. And it's RIDICULOUSLY staged. I live nearby and used to frequent that shop for years--at least once a month, if not more--for over a decade. Mike is there 90% of the time. I have seen Walt a handful of times and Ming maybe twice. (Oddly, I've seen Bryan there a bunch of times but just assumed he was homeless and Mike was being a nice guy). The store is usually dead. Even on Wednesdays (new comic book day), there are MAYBE 2 or 3 people in the store at any one time. Nobody has ever come in to have anything appraised. It's not a bad shop and I've never had a problem there.

But goddammit, the way they treat customers on that show and talk about them behind their backs! Fine, you guys want to be douchebags, especially to the girls, fark you. I'll go to the shop in Toms River.

/The zombie episode was the last straw. "Don't give the flyer to her! She's wearing Uggs & has a Coach bag--she's not our demographic!"
//Fark you, assholes. We goddamn well ARE your demographic! Who else do you think can afford a $50/week comic habit like "Ugg-wearing, Coach-carrying" chicks?


I used to wonder what Kevin Smith's deal was. Then I watched the documentary on the CLERKS 10th Anniversary set, and when he said that he always wanted to be like Bryan, it all made sense.
 
2012-12-04 03:30:31 PM  
Hester is an arse i willnot be sad to see him go.
 
2012-12-04 03:30:37 PM  

steve_wmn: Next you'll be telling me that the girls on Backroom Casting Couch know exactly what they've signed up for when they walk in the room.

/OK, it's still real enough for me.


wasn't there a story posted on here earlier this year where guys were actually doing stuff like that and Jailarity ensued.
 
2012-12-04 03:31:42 PM  

Generation_D: "Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.


I did love that show but damn what a coincidence they always seemed to find what they would need
 
2012-12-04 03:34:28 PM  

groppet: Generation_D: "Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.

I did love that show but damn what a coincidence they always seemed to find what they would need


With that show who cared? They built some cool farkin shiat. Anyone who complains about Junkyward Wars can go sit in the corner. That show was awesome.
 
2012-12-04 03:36:38 PM  

Gosling: Rent Party: I was buying and selling storage units when this show came on the air, and I hate it. It ruined a perfectly entertaining way to make a few extra bucks.

You would bid and buy against the same group of a dozen or so people in the caravan, eBay the shiat out of some stuff, and either donate or dump most of it, and it was a good time.

Then this show came on the air, and all of a sudden there are a hundred goddamn people in the storage caravan, none of whom know WTF they're doing, driving the prices of everything through the roof. You really want to pay $200 for that stack of wet cardboard boxes? OK lady, I guess you saw it on TV.

Well, that would have to be its own kind of entertaining, wouldn't it? Stand up on your tippy-toes, make an offhand remark about 'something shiny in the back', and then sit back and watch the fun.


You know, I never thought of that, but yeah, that would have been entertaining.
 
2012-12-04 03:38:14 PM  

Barry McCackiner: A lot of DERP in this thread. There is a big difference between fake and creative editing. Of course they edit it to make it seem more interesting. Nobody wants to watch a documentary about these people standing around all afternoon bidding on lockers full of trash. You have to edit out the boring. WOW WHAT A REVELATION.

Same thing with the "they find treasure in each episode". No they don't. There are lots of episodes where the best thing somebody gets is some trinket worth a few hundred dollars. A lot of times it is just money based on furniture and other miscellaneous items. It isn't like every episode has a 13th century medieval sword in a locker or something. Not even close.

They don't show the boring stuff because it is only 20 minutes of TV time per episode. They go out and film probably 1 or 2 days worth of material and then give you only the basic stuff. Are the producers sometimes coaching the people on what to talk about? Of course they are. What the hell do you think those interviews are all about? That doesn't mean that they weren't actually bidding on lockers and dealing with the reality of that.

The one thing I don't like is the idea that they may have dropped items into the lockers. If I found out that is true I will stop watching the show (same with Man Vs Wild when they finally stated that Bear is not spending the night in the wilderness). But all of the other stuff people are complaining about is pretty basic TV stuff. I'm not sure what world you people live in, but TV is edited, HURR DURR


best part is, the planted items are from the "appraisers" shops... loaned to them for the episode (publicity for the shop, blah blah blah). that weird thing that the shop owner just happens to know everything about? it was on his shelf yesterday.
 
2012-12-04 03:41:14 PM  
Enough about those D-bags. How about these?

b.vimeocdn.com
 
2012-12-04 03:45:44 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [vids.wwe.com image 268x179]


WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!

[media.tumblr.com image 500x282]

/~fin


Second to last picture looks like Hester is arresting Stone Cold
 
2012-12-04 03:46:35 PM  

steve_wmn: Next you'll be telling me that the girls on Backroom Casting Couch know exactly what they've signed up for when they walk in the room.

/OK, it's still real enough for me.


I'm with this guy.

/two forms of ID, biatch.
 
2012-12-04 03:47:33 PM  

brigid_fitch: But goddammit, the way they treat customers on that show and talk about them behind their backs! Fine, you guys want to be douchebags, especially to the girls, fark you. I'll go to the shop in Toms River.


Yeah, it's like, a show about guys sitting around bullshiatting about comic books, cool. But God, they're all such assholes. "I want $100" "$20"....later, "$10.00". "$9.0999".....etc. And they're all such farking douchebags. I have this season on DVR but probably won't bother watching it.
 
2012-12-04 03:49:13 PM  

frepnog: steve_wmn: Next you'll be telling me that the girls on Backroom Casting Couch know exactly what they've signed up for when they walk in the room.

/OK, it's still real enough for me.

I'm with this guy.

/two forms of ID, biatch.


My wife has a friend who wants to do "nude modeling" because she was promised 4 - 6k a week.

I didn't have the heart, or the desire in front of my wife, to bring up the fact it's probably for backroom casting couch... And she'll be added to the fap bank here shortly.
 
2012-12-04 03:49:31 PM  

brigid_fitch: grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.

CSS: A friend of mine was on Four Weddings (hers was the Halloween Wedding where the guests all went to a haunted house after the reception). During every interview aired for the show, she said the producers kept asking the same questions, trying to get a very specific answer from her. Since she was the oldest of the 4 brides (mid-30s where the others were 20-somethings), they decided she'd be the "bitter, catty one". And she absolutely refused to play ball. The producers then did a quick huddle and came back again with slightly re-worded questions, now intent on making her the "stuck-up biatch". At that point, after being trapped in the interview for over 2 hours, she did whatever they told her, just to get away from them. She likened it to a police interrogation.

Another friend is an extra--she's shown up in a laundry list of shows & commercials (and is on the set of Elementary right now). She's also been a dinner guest on Hell's Kitchen, sat for a tattoo in NY Ink, ordered a cake on Cake Boss, and a couple of stints on The Apprentice (usually part of the crowd buying whatever the contestants are hawking), She recently did Restaurant Stakeout but isn't allowed to tell which restaurant until it airs.


Why did she do the damn show? What was her goal? To brag about being on a reality TV show? You couldn't pay me enough to deal with that bullsh*t, someone telling me how to act.
 
2012-12-04 03:58:41 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: rooftop235: DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!

WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!

BAH GAW KING! THAT'S HESTERS MUSIC!

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

BAH GAWD KING! THAT'S STONE COLD'S MUSIC!

BUISNESS IS DAMN SURE ABOUT TO PICK UP!

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]
....
[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

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[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

[itsrockingwrestling.files.wordpress.com image 456x352]

STONE COLD IS GOING TO JAIL!

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

[vids.wwe.com image 268x179]

WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!

[media.tumblr.com image 500x282]

/~fin


I want to adopt you.
 
2012-12-04 04:03:21 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: brigid_fitch: grinding_journalist: AshCampbell: Having said that, all TV is fake, so get over it or don't watch it?

Bolded for emphasis.

It blows me away how many people in this thread think that anything, ANYTHING at all on the reality shows they watch isn't completely set up and constructed to run in just the way that the producers want.

If there were any real element of danger, the show's insurance would make it impossible.

If there were real conflict between cast members, you wouldn't be able to guarantee production of a whole season.

I'm not saying they can't be enjoyed, but please understand that it's all faked for your entertainment. If it weren't it wouldn't be entertaining.

CSS: A friend of mine was on Four Weddings (hers was the Halloween Wedding where the guests all went to a haunted house after the reception). During every interview aired for the show, she said the producers kept asking the same questions, trying to get a very specific answer from her. Since she was the oldest of the 4 brides (mid-30s where the others were 20-somethings), they decided she'd be the "bitter, catty one". And she absolutely refused to play ball. The producers then did a quick huddle and came back again with slightly re-worded questions, now intent on making her the "stuck-up biatch". At that point, after being trapped in the interview for over 2 hours, she did whatever they told her, just to get away from them. She likened it to a police interrogation.

Why did she do the damn show? What was her goal? To brag about being on a reality TV show? You couldn't pay me enough to deal with that bullsh*t, someone telling me how to act..


She did the show on a lark and never expected to be treated the way she was. She knew reality shows were staged and that this particular show was more than likely rigged but figured what the hell? Maybe it wouldn't be rigged and she'd win a free honeymoon. In the meantime, her miserable, asshole ex-husband could watch on national TV and see how happy she was with her new, wonderful husband. To her, it was supposed to be win-win. Turned out to be a huge PITA and she'll never do another one.
 
2012-12-04 04:07:31 PM  

steve_wmn: Next you'll be telling me that the girls on Backroom Casting Couch know exactly what they've signed up for when they walk in the room.

/OK, it's still real enough for me.


Their Facebook group gives you the backstory on a lot of the chicks.
 
2012-12-04 04:08:55 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.

You live in Portland Oregon?

/cause that's where I live


No, I live here in town.
 
2012-12-04 04:19:00 PM  

browntimmy: unfarkingbelievable: miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.

No shiat sherlock. I didn't need you to tell me any of that. It's obvious. Tell us something we don't know about "reality TV." The bottom line is that many people find reality TV to be entertaining and they buy into the reality myth because they enjoy it.

But I want to understand why they enjoy watching the Kardashians badly act their way through an obviously phony plot imagined by some hack producer. Why not something made by talented and experienced professionals?


People watch it because it is on TV, and since it is so cheap there is a lot of it. The only real challenge is casting. Like brigid_fitch was saying above there is a lot of prodding by producers to create a character. And actually some people who these shows are really supposed to be about are completely recast. I did post on a pilot about a young woman who was working on taking over the family business (it was kind of a quirky business, which would have potentially made for interesting TV). I remember one of the executive producers coming in during a rough edit and saying something along the lines of "Who are we going to cast in her role if this gets picked up." This was because the woman was kind of bigger and not super attractive. The whole show about this person's life would have been played out as a reality show with another person playing her. Now, I don't know how often that happens, but it is definitely out there, and I would bet happens more often than people realize.
 
2012-12-04 04:25:52 PM  

Caeldan:
How about when they managed to get a couple on a plane that was already taxiing out to the active runway?


Yeah I remember that. That's the kind of stuff I mean by "creative editing" (although this was probably one of the most egregious examples). There's no way they got a commercial plane taxiing to the runway to turn around because two of their TV contestants wanted to get on. Either they got on the plane in time and it was edited to look otherwise or the plane had to turn around for some legitimate reason and the producers decided it was more exciting to make it look like the trailing team barely squeaked on.

They definitely do that kind of stuff for pacing, and (I strongly suspect that) they arrange with the airlines well ahead of time so that only a certain number of seats are available to the contestants on various flights, also for exciting pacing, but I don't think anything on the program is outright scripted.
 
2012-12-04 04:26:35 PM  

Strategeryz0r: groppet: Generation_D: "Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.

I did love that show but damn what a coincidence they always seemed to find what they would need

With that show who cared? They built some cool farkin shiat. Anyone who complains about Junkyward Wars can go sit in the corner. That show was awesome.


Amen, brother, preach it! This is why I still have a VCR hooked up, because I taped every single episode of that show during one of the weekend marathons. I suppose I should see if Amazon has them on DVD or something.
 
2012-12-04 04:32:18 PM  
Reality Show casting CSB:

I was approached for a reality about Single Dads and was told up front I would be the sympathetic character, the producers knew my wife from her private pilot days and knew that she passed away a few years ago and contacted me. I declined but it was obvious every person was going to have a role to fulfill.

/CSB
 
2012-12-04 04:36:11 PM  

toetag: In four months, someone is going to announce the show "Amish Mafia" is fake? I wont believe it!


I LOL'd first time I saw that commercial.
 
2012-12-04 04:41:13 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Amen, brother, preach it! This is why I still have a VCR hooked up, because I taped every single episode of that show during one of the weekend marathons. I suppose I should see if Amazon has them on DVD or something.


YouTube, my friend, YouTube.
 
2012-12-04 04:50:27 PM  
My CSB, since the outcome was a little different:

My house was used on an episode of "Perfect Proposal". The crew was thoroughly professional, and they paid to repaint a door frame that got damaged (the producer couldn't have been more apologetic). The host, Nikki Boyer, spent her off-camera time being a goofball with us in the kitchen, and it doesn't hurt that she is teh hawt. For the most part, it was staged to look good but was genuinely what the bride-to-be wanted to do. Can't say a bad thing about any of it.
 
2012-12-04 04:52:57 PM  
A producer for History Channel's "Sold" called me last year, and asked if I'm interested in having one of my products featured on their show. I hadn't heard of, nor seen that show, plus they wanted me to cover shipping expenses from the left coast to MO, and having my stuff auctioned off in mid-western farm country is like trying to sell a combine in Brooklyn, so I declined his offer.
Another guy, who is in the same market, took that spot and sold his product for about 50% of the retail price at "auction". He got some exposure through the show and could have sold plenty of his products....for the price shown on tv. I heard through mutual friends that he was "rather displeased" with the results of the show.

This year, I've already had two companies asking me if they could rent my product as a prop in their commercials.
Works so much better. I get paid for the rental and use their commercial as a reference.

cgraves67: This is pretty much why I quit watching tv. They could have informative, educational shows about various jobs like gold miners, or a historical show about stuff in pawn shops, but no, we get hyped up, unrealistic melodrama by people who can't act while pretending to do the stuff I want to hear about.


I'm with you on that. When I moved out of suburbia, I left tv and most of the other superficial stuff behind, and don't miss it for a second. I'm still a farker, though, so there's that then.
 
2012-12-04 04:58:36 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Strategeryz0r: groppet: Generation_D: "Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.

I did love that show but damn what a coincidence they always seemed to find what they would need

With that show who cared? They built some cool farkin shiat. Anyone who complains about Junkyward Wars can go sit in the corner. That show was awesome.

Amen, brother, preach it! This is why I still have a VCR hooked up, because I taped every single episode of that show during one of the weekend marathons. I suppose I should see if Amazon has them on DVD or something.


add me to the Junkyard Wars fans... loved that show... and yes they 'added' things to the junkyard... sometimes wheels and tires specific to the 'build'... amazing that they could always find a beat up old 4x4 when they needed one... drag it into the build area and have the motor running in 20 minutes...
still... a good show...
 
2012-12-04 05:01:39 PM  
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2012-12-04 05:08:09 PM  

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Already nailed one of those.
 
2012-12-04 05:12:27 PM  

basemetal: [celebritywonder.ugo.com image 399x600]

I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.


Done in 3. Barry's a hoot.
 
2012-12-04 05:18:00 PM  
Reality TV thrives because people's lives are so boring.

That's the only conclusion I can draw from reality tv and why it is still on tv.
 
2012-12-04 05:18:53 PM  

brigid_fitch: Mugato: I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.

Comic Book Men pisses me off to no end. And it's RIDICULOUSLY staged. I live nearby and used to frequent that shop for years--at least once a month, if not more--for over a decade. Mike is there 90% of the time. I have seen Walt a handful of times and Ming maybe twice. (Oddly, I've seen Bryan there a bunch of times but just assumed he was homeless and Mike was being a nice guy). The store is usually dead. Even on Wednesdays (new comic book day), there are MAYBE 2 or 3 people in the store at any one time. Nobody has ever come in to have anything appraised. It's not a bad shop and I've never had a problem there.

But goddammit, the way they treat customers on that show and talk about them behind their backs! Fine, you guys want to be douchebags, especially to the girls, fark you. I'll go to the shop in Toms River.

/The zombie episode was the last straw. "Don't give the flyer to her! She's wearing Uggs & has a Coach bag--she's not our demographic!"
//Fark you, assholes. We goddamn well ARE your demographic! Who else do you think can afford a $50/week comic habit like "Ugg-wearing, Coach-carrying" chicks?


I have 2 questions for you:

1. Is that Gandalf-looking dude as massive a tool in real life as he is on the show?

2. Can you give Kevin Smith my phone number?
 
2012-12-04 05:21:07 PM  

Rent Party: 3. How is shiat packed? Is it crumbled cardboard boxes? That's garbage. Is it nicely packed and stacked plastic tubs? Whoever put it there wanted to protect whatever is inside.


With lots of thrusting and lube.
 
2012-12-04 05:26:28 PM  

majestic: I am sure that Hardcore Pawn has a lot of staging, but I am afraid that much of the crazy behavior you see on that show is real. Put desperate people from 8 mile in a situation where they feel like they are being cheated by "the man", and you will witness this sort of craziness. It would not surprise me if whatever network offers a bonus for freaking out.

And Ashley is a biatch.


Love that show. Really down on Les for screwing people for the prices he gave on a couple of watches. I knew the value on a couple of Tags he picked up and he paid a fraction of the worth. As the shows when on they started showing people buying items and I saw the prices he was offering on like watches in his store. I can't say he was screwing people, there was a sizable mark-up but cost of doing business in that area would have to be high.

Long story short, he has really good prices on some high end watches. But not good enough for me to go to Detroit.
 
2012-12-04 05:41:42 PM  
I don't give a shiat if Storage Wars is fake or not, but goddamn Hester is one annoying beaner.

Love the show. Love Brandy's STORAGE UNITS
 
2012-12-04 05:48:42 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: I have 2 questions for you:

1. Is that Gandalf-looking dude as massive a tool in real life as he is on the show?

2. Can you give Kevin Smith my phone number?


Answers:

1. Bryan is creepy as fark. He just hangs out in the back of the store, feet propped up on whatever's handy, and reads comics. Like I said, for years I honestly thought he was some homeless guy that Mike was taking pity on. When people come in, he watches them over his book. I think I've heard him speak twice, both times complaining about something.

2. I worked in an office around the corner from his shop while he was shooting Chasing Amy. Since I'd hang out in the shop on my lunch hour a lot, I'd run into him pretty regularly. We'd even run into each other in town fairly often. He used to be a pretty decent guy, just happy to do movies and have enough cash for a comic book shop. Then about 7-8 years ago, he became completely insufferable. Last time I saw him was 2009 and he was a complete ass.
 
2012-12-04 05:51:38 PM  

Tom_Slick: Reality Show casting CSB:

I was approached for a reality about Single Dads and was told up front I would be the sympathetic character, the producers knew my wife from her private pilot days and knew that she passed away a few years ago and contacted me. I declined but it was obvious every person was going to have a role to fulfill.

/CSB


Gotta be careful being "the villain"

30 years after Pumping Iron, people still give Ken Waller shiat about stealing Mike Katz's tshirt. It was entirely staged for the 'documentary' - apparently Waller is a big teddybear, well liked by other bodybuilders, and just agreed to play the villain for a laugh
 
2012-12-04 05:59:27 PM  

brigid_fitch: 1. Bryan is creepy as fark. He just hangs out in the back of the store, feet propped up on whatever's handy, and reads comics. Like I said, for years I honestly thought he was some homeless guy that Mike was taking pity on. When people come in, he watches them over his book. I think I've heard him speak twice, both times complaining about something.

2. I worked in an office around the corner from his shop while he was shooting Chasing Amy. Since I'd hang out in the shop on my lunch hour a lot, I'd run into him pretty regularly. We'd even run into each other in town fairly often. He used to be a pretty decent guy, just happy to do movies and have enough cash for a comic book shop. Then about 7-8 years ago, he became completely insufferable. Last time I saw him was 2009 and he was a complete ass.


That really sucks because I watched it thinking it would be about guys sitting around bullshiatting about comics and movies, not the most personable people in the world but not complete cocks.
 
2012-12-04 06:04:40 PM  

mcreadyblue: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.

You live in Portland Oregon?

/cause that's where I live

No, I live here in town.


Then I don't know what you're talking about. MTV just wrapped filming season number 20 something here in Portland. I know since I had to sign a waiver and dodge cameras to drink in my local bar. So I'm having a hard time understanding "MTV did not film here.".

Local news article about the filming 

/is it because my username has "Detroit" in it? I grew up there but I sure as hell don't live there now
 
2012-12-04 06:07:26 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: brigid_fitch: Mugato: I only watched two reality shows in my life, Face/Off because I'm in movies and it's about movie make up artists but then it started getting all dramatic like you see in the American Idol commercials. So I quit that. Then Comic Book Men but I'm starting to realize they're all a collection of douchebags.

But yeah, all reality shows are bullshiat.

Comic Book Men pisses me off to no end. And it's RIDICULOUSLY staged. I live nearby and used to frequent that shop for years--at least once a month, if not more--for over a decade. Mike is there 90% of the time. I have seen Walt a handful of times and Ming maybe twice. (Oddly, I've seen Bryan there a bunch of times but just assumed he was homeless and Mike was being a nice guy). The store is usually dead. Even on Wednesdays (new comic book day), there are MAYBE 2 or 3 people in the store at any one time. Nobody has ever come in to have anything appraised. It's not a bad shop and I've never had a problem there.

But goddammit, the way they treat customers on that show and talk about them behind their backs! Fine, you guys want to be douchebags, especially to the girls, fark you. I'll go to the shop in Toms River.

/The zombie episode was the last straw. "Don't give the flyer to her! She's wearing Uggs & has a Coach bag--she's not our demographic!"
//Fark you, assholes. We goddamn well ARE your demographic! Who else do you think can afford a $50/week comic habit like "Ugg-wearing, Coach-carrying" chicks?

I have 2 questions for you:

1. Is that Gandalf-looking dude as massive a tool in real life as he is on the show?

2. Can you give Kevin Smith my phone number?


Not to brag, but I know Kevin Smith. He would not want your phone number.
 
2012-12-04 06:14:14 PM  

ConConHead: I miss The Colony. It was totally staged but the people's reactions were legit. Especially how stupid they were in the face of danger/starvation/raids by marauders. Oh look. All these power supplies and viable non-warped lumber was left behind! Oh, look, a boat without any holes and a motor which only needs rudimentary repairs to get running.

Oh look, you found this room upstairs which wasn't there on your previous explorations of the building!


Bleh, that show drove me nuts. "Let's make an oil slick to stop the marauders!" Uh, nope. If I'm making a trap in a post apocalyptic wasteland, it sure as fark better be lethal.
 
2012-12-04 06:16:09 PM  

miss jinxed: browntimmy: unfarkingbelievable: miss jinxed: as someone who used to work on reality TV and has transcribed hours and hours and hours of footage of reality TV shows, I can tell you that close to 90% of what happens on reality TV is fake. It is a mix prodding by the producer or director to have cast members say or do certain things, having things "placed" on set, and/or creative editing.

the reason all that footage is transcribed is so editors can go through the transcriptions to find a certain word or phrase, then insert it in when needed, that is also why there are confessionals that cut away to action, so that you can't tell that the person speaking isn't saying entirely what they are saying.

reality TV is super cheap to make, particularly because the people on the show aren't union actors (like they would be in scripted drama) and most of the crew doesn't have to be union. i'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, but working in "legit" TV now has really taught me how crappy reality productions are on so many levels.

No shiat sherlock. I didn't need you to tell me any of that. It's obvious. Tell us something we don't know about "reality TV." The bottom line is that many people find reality TV to be entertaining and they buy into the reality myth because they enjoy it.

But I want to understand why they enjoy watching the Kardashians badly act their way through an obviously phony plot imagined by some hack producer. Why not something made by talented and experienced professionals?

People watch it because it is on TV, and since it is so cheap there is a lot of it. The only real challenge is casting. Like brigid_fitch was saying above there is a lot of prodding by producers to create a character. And actually some people who these shows are really supposed to be about are completely recast. I did post on a pilot about a young woman who was working on taking over the family business (it was kind of a quirky business, which would have potentially made ...

is trying to ignore the fact that all of us in reality TV are responsible for the dumbassing and rapid decline of America.
 
2012-12-04 06:22:26 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: Not to brag, but I know Kevin Smith. He would not want your phone number.


Well everyone seems to hate him so I don't doubt it.

/not me, I'd have a drink with him
 
2012-12-04 06:26:23 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: rooftop235: DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!

WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!

BAH GAW KING! THAT'S HESTERS MUSIC!

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

BAH GAWD KING! THAT'S STONE COLD'S MUSIC!

BUISNESS IS DAMN SURE ABOUT TO PICK UP!

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

....

[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]


[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]


[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]


[www.wwe.com image 314x230]


[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]


[www.wwe.com image 314x230]


[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]


[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

[itsrockingwrestling.files.wordpress.com image 456x352]

STONE COLD IS GOING TO JAIL!

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

[vids.wwe.com image 268x179]


WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!

[media.tumblr.com image 500x282]

/~fin


Logged in specifically so I could favorite you for this. *golfclap*
 
2012-12-04 07:02:08 PM  
There are two reality shows I watch sporadically. My old standby is Hoarders, and I just recently discovered Restaurant:Impossible. I like those shows because I feel like there are nuggets of reality in them that you just can't fake. With Restaurant:Impossible for instance, sure, the annoying British fark with the infinite supply of muscle shirts may be totally fake, but the restaurants are real. The people who work there don't want to look like incompetent, pathetic loons, even if they did ask for help. All these people are trying to look their best on camera and just plain failing. That's real emotion that I can get into.

Then of course, at the end of the episode I get my recommended daily allowance of rage porn too. Because when the narrator comes on and says that the 25 year-old girl who can't do basic math will go on to have a successful restaurant, or that the woman who sleeps on a kitchen stool surrounded by 10 foot piles of garbage will get to keep her house if she continues with her treatment, you know god damn well that's not true.
 
2012-12-04 07:05:48 PM  

Rent Party: I was buying and selling storage units when this show came on the air, and I hate it. It ruined a perfectly entertaining way to make a few extra bucks.

You would bid and buy against the same group of a dozen or so people in the caravan, eBay the shiat out of some stuff, and either donate or dump most of it, and it was a good time.

Then this show came on the air, and all of a sudden there are a hundred goddamn people in the storage caravan, none of whom know WTF they're doing, driving the prices of everything through the roof. You really want to pay $200 for that stack of wet cardboard boxes? OK lady, I guess you saw it on TV.



I don't know why, but the mental image of your story has me in tears.
 
2012-12-04 07:12:58 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: rooftop235: DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!

WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!

BAH GAW KING! THAT'S HESTERS MUSIC!



BAH GAWD KING! THAT'S STONE COLD'S MUSIC!

BUISNESS IS DAMN SURE ABOUT TO PICK UP!



....


































STONE COLD IS GOING TO JAIL!






WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!



/~fin


....it's beautiful...
 
2012-12-04 07:19:13 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: ... is trying to ignore the fact that all of us in reality TV are responsible for the dumbassing and rapid decline of America.


Thirty-odd years ago you'd say the same thing of Three's Company. These days we remember John Ritter as a comic genius.
 
2012-12-04 07:30:52 PM  
I gave up on this show when they brought that Nabila skank on at the end of the first season. It was no longer entertaining.
 
2012-12-04 08:13:50 PM  

JonZoidberg: ManateeGag: yeah, I love what they are doing with Pawn Stars and trying to create a Paul Sr/Paul Jr. scenario.

That is such horseshiat. Nobody in their right mind would hire that dumbass to scrub a toilet. He's even terrible at negotiating prices and has no idea what a lot of stuff is worth. I know every ounce of "drama" on that show is manufactured, so if I'm watching it on DVR I skip from item appraisal to item appraisal.

I like Comic Book Men because I used to work in a comic book store and while I never really was much of a collector, I have some favorites.


I'm waiting for the episode where they argue with Diamond over getting shorted on the weekly order.
 
2012-12-04 08:15:25 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: unfarkingbelievable: ... is trying to ignore the fact that all of us in reality TV are responsible for the dumbassing and rapid decline of America.

Thirty-odd years ago you'd say the same thing of Three's Company. These days we remember John Ritter as a comic genius.


Ritter WAS a master of slapstick and made an almost unwatchable comedy fun.
 
2012-12-04 08:17:12 PM  
My brother and I own a storage facility. It is seldom we find anything worth a shiat when people default. This show makes it seem everyday.
 
2012-12-04 08:36:15 PM  

Radak: Caeldan:
How about when they managed to get a couple on a plane that was already taxiing out to the active runway?


Yeah I remember that. That's the kind of stuff I mean by "creative editing" (although this was probably one of the most egregious examples). There's no way they got a commercial plane taxiing to the runway to turn around because two of their TV contestants wanted to get on. Either they got on the plane in time and it was edited to look otherwise or the plane had to turn around for some legitimate reason and the producers decided it was more exciting to make it look like the trailing team barely squeaked on.

They definitely do that kind of stuff for pacing, and (I strongly suspect that) they arrange with the airlines well ahead of time so that only a certain number of seats are available to the contestants on various flights, also for exciting pacing, but I don't think anything on the program is outright scripted.


To be fair, the plane had never moved an inch. All that had happened was that the door to the jetway (and maybe also the door on the plane) had been closed, and someone ultimately convinced the pilot to reopen it so that Uchenna and Joyce could embark. There's an extra on the DVD set for this season that discusses this incident, and Uchenna, Joyce, Rob (who got hosed by this, remember), and Phil all swear up and down that it came about from Uchenna's begging of the gate attendant and nothing else. If the producers were that much into interference, why can't they convince the racers this season to not be so boring and irritating in how much they love working together?

Besides, have you seen LOLwork? Now there's a fake "reality" show.
 
2012-12-04 08:45:21 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: rooftop235: DemoKnite: So A&E thinks that Hester has let the cat out of the bag? They really do think the audience is dumb. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that the WWE is fake. pffft!!!!

WWE IS REAL, DAMN YOU!

BAH GAW KING! THAT'S HESTERS MUSIC!

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BAH GAWD KING! THAT'S STONE COLD'S MUSIC!

BUISNESS IS DAMN SURE ABOUT TO PICK UP!

[www.wwe.com image 314x230]

....

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[rockettothesun.com image 600x338]

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STONE COLD IS GOING TO JAIL!

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WHAT DIABOLICAL MIND COULD HAVE PUT AUSTIN UP TO THIS KING?!

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/~fin


My God, it's full of stars...
 
2012-12-04 08:47:45 PM  

Unshavenhelga: My brother and I own a storage facility. It is seldom we find anything worth a shiat when people default. This show makes it seem everyday.


Wait...

You mean not every locker has a Picasso just waiting to be found?
 
2012-12-04 08:47:53 PM  

PsyLord: [i2.ytimg.com image 480x360]
Posted that in the other Storage Wars thread today. Which raises the question, why are there even 2 greenlit threads about this faker than fake show?


For the same reason that this thread has 200+ comments.
 
2012-12-04 09:04:11 PM  

jedzz: To be fair, the plane had never moved an inch. All that had happened was that the door to the jetway (and maybe also the door on the plane) had been closed, and someone ultimately convinced the pilot to reopen it so that Uchenna and Joyce could embark. There's an extra on the DVD set for this season that discusses this incident, and Uchenna, Joyce, Rob (who got hosed by this, remember), and Phil all swear up and down that it came about from Uchenna's begging of the gate attendant and nothing else.


The one reason I don't think this game is rigged (and this is compelling) is that they didn't "save" Rob and Amber on the first all-stars season when they got beat by the midget and her idiot partner. I have more problems with the fact there was no penalty for "stealing" money this season.
 
2012-12-04 09:11:36 PM  

mjbok: jedzz: To be fair, the plane had never moved an inch. All that had happened was that the door to the jetway (and maybe also the door on the plane) had been closed, and someone ultimately convinced the pilot to reopen it so that Uchenna and Joyce could embark. There's an extra on the DVD set for this season that discusses this incident, and Uchenna, Joyce, Rob (who got hosed by this, remember), and Phil all swear up and down that it came about from Uchenna's begging of the gate attendant and nothing else.

The one reason I don't think this game is rigged (and this is compelling) is that they didn't "save" Rob and Amber on the first all-stars season when they got beat by the midget and her idiot partner. I have more problems with the fact there was no penalty for "stealing" money this season.


They found the money on the floor they didn't steal it.
 
2012-12-04 09:15:01 PM  

borg: They found the money on the floor they didn't steal it.


They knew whose it was, and saw them looking for it. They had pocketed it. Did they go in the other team's stuff and take it? No. Did they know it belonged to the other team and take it? Yes. That is stealing. If a team's passport fell on the ground and another team took it would that be stealing?
 
2012-12-04 09:17:13 PM  
Who cares? Tonight, Barry is driving a farkING SPACE CAR!

/got damn he would be fun
 
2012-12-04 09:37:27 PM  

FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing


"COPs"

The only real reality show there is. Nothing says "reality" like a guy running from the police, in a stolen pick-up truck, drunk, then crashing it and trying to run. Only to be tasered, right through his wife beater shirt, in the ditch he just crashed into!
 
2012-12-04 09:58:12 PM  

PsyLord: Enough about those D-bags. How about these?

[b.vimeocdn.com image 640x360]


They did their research and found out nobody gives a shiat about TruTV.
 
2012-12-04 10:05:39 PM  

skyshooter: FriarReb98: If it's a reality show on a cable network, odds are it's one that has absolutely no reason to exist. At this point, I can't think of one that deserves to exist, with the possible exception of the one that is least reality-like, namely Mythbusters.

\bunch of cheap-assed execs creating pussified drama out of nothing

"COPs"

The only real reality show there is. Nothing says "reality" like a guy running from the police, in a stolen pick-up truck, drunk, then crashing it and trying to run. Only to be tasered, right through his wife beater shirt, in the ditch he just crashed into!


Not to mention drunken lying through the teeth trying to get out of their hole.

Need to crank up that banned dvd again.
 
2012-12-04 10:36:32 PM  
The part that drove me to stop watching is when they proclaim 'Oh, I'll get $3,000.00 for this!' with 'this' being some little bullshiat item like a paper weight or a used condom.

Yeah? Really?

Then let's see an real, truthful sale of the crap they 'KNOW' they will get $3,000.

I've watched 'Market Warriors' on PBS. The show has actually experts on antiques going to sales and using their knowledge purchase items for later re-sale.

Guess what? These experts have gotten screwed in several auctions because the market wouldn't support their estimated value.

So if four experts can't get their estimate price I find it highly doubtful that 4 yahoos with shiat for brains will get their $3,000.
 
2012-12-04 11:49:22 PM  
cf.badassdigest.com
Tell me when they do this episode. I bet Walt is buying that M60 to shoot Darrell and Dave.
 
2012-12-04 11:54:30 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.

You live in Portland Oregon?

/cause that's where I live

No, I live here in town.

Then I don't know what you're talking about. MTV just wrapped filming season number 20 something here in Portland. I know since I had to sign a waiver and dodge cameras to drink in my local bar. So I'm having a hard time understanding "MTV did not film here.".

Local news article about the filming 

/is it because my username has "Detroit" in it? I grew up there but I sure as hell don't live there now


I would watch a Hardcore Pawn and MTV Real World cross over set on 8 mile.
 
2012-12-04 11:59:19 PM  
Maybe I'm reading TFA wrong, but it seems to me that they aren't actually accusing Hester of spreading the "FAKE!" rumors, but that they're using the rumors as a reason to commit less to the show, and it's looking like Dave is going to be dropped because of this...

...not that anyone cares at this point.

/I liked watching reality TV in Japan, like the show where they send a "tarento"* off to the boonies to beg his way into someone's home for the night. I didn't understand the language well enough to tell if it was being faked.

*tarento = someone who's only claim to fame is being on Japanese TV variety shows
 
2012-12-05 12:21:38 AM  

HempHead: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mcreadyblue: I live here as well.

MTV did not film here.

You live in Portland Oregon?

/cause that's where I live

No, I live here in town.

Then I don't know what you're talking about. MTV just wrapped filming season number 20 something here in Portland. I know since I had to sign a waiver and dodge cameras to drink in my local bar. So I'm having a hard time understanding "MTV did not film here.".

Local news article about the filming 

/is it because my username has "Detroit" in it? I grew up there but I sure as hell don't live there now

I would watch a Hardcore Pawn and MTV Real World cross over set on 8 mile.


I wanted to see a Real World Detroit for some time. That's the farking real world, not St. Thomas or some vacation spot. But then I realized I'm in my 30's and don't watch MTV anymore.
 
2012-12-05 12:25:20 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean:
Yeah, that was such a nonsensical angle. What were they thinking? I watch Storage Wars for the same reason I watch Antiques Roadshow: I like cool old stuff. All the artifice surrounding it is crap, though I guess some people are tuning in for "drama."


They were trying to copy the American Chopper "Junior vs. Senior" feud. They are doing the same shiat on Pawn Stars with Corey and Rick. I expect they will do the same with Rick and Tyler on 'American Restoration' eventually.

/loves Duck Dynasty lately
//best sitcom out there
 
2012-12-05 12:26:31 AM  
We have only very basic cable and hadn't seen any of these shows until this weekend, when we stayed at a hotel and had a lot of empty time on our hands. We watched Storage Wars, Gold Rush, and Alaska: The Last Frontier for more hours than I care to tally. "Fake" or "Real", the reason we watched was because of intriguing characters. It didn't matter if it was somewhat/largely scripted--although if I knew it was flat-out made up (these people aren't in Alaska, etc.) then I might not watch it--we wanted to know what ridiculous thing would happen next to these crazy people. Frankly these shows felt less contrived than your average sit-com or procedural cop/medical drama these days.
 
2012-12-05 12:31:40 AM  

FreakinB: I'm sure it's fake, but I don't really care. Storage Wars is the one reality show I watch. Not that I go out of my way to watch it, but I'll stop flipping channels if i see it.


This right here, I mean, there.

img.poptower.com
 
2012-12-05 01:41:13 AM  

ferretman: [i.cdn.turner.com image 215x222]

What?!?! No mention of MMEEEEEE!


I would rather live with the Swamp people than these people in their element. The daughter on this show is the most repellant shrew imaginable- worse even than some of their customers.
 
2012-12-05 01:43:42 AM  

ManateeGag: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Donnchadha: all day long

That's the Wow Factor baby!

/dude has more catch phases than Bart Simpson

don't have a cow, man!


Ay carumba! Eat my shorts.

/Hester IS a douchebag
 
2012-12-05 02:19:27 AM  

Generation_D: "Reality" has been fake since it started.

Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.


That wasn't fake, the whole point of the show, at least if you watched the original British version, was that several needed items were placed there.

I'm willing to believe that the American version pretended otherwise, but well, the original Junk Yard Wars didn't. They'd even talk about the stuff that was planted, and wonder whether the contestants would find it.

Sometimes the contestants wouldn't find it, and try to achieve the goal with some genuine junk. This happened because while they knew that the stuff was there, they didn't know what was placed, and what was random junk. Obviously it was more awesome when someone managed to win with the "wrong" stuff.
 
2012-12-05 02:47:28 AM  
www.forumspile.com
 
2012-12-05 05:08:41 AM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.


Barry isn't that old his mom has been on at least three times she (or the actress) looks like she's only 78-80ish.
 
2012-12-05 06:31:05 AM  

Gosling: Generation_D: Anyone remember Junk Yard Wars?

They once found a pristine boat propeller in a junkyard. $20,000 value. Which was just the piece they needed for that show. What an amazing find. It sure was great someone threw that away.

I remember that show. They came right out and said they seeded the junkyard so that the teams would have the correct material to actually build stuff. And reseeded it every episode. You either dump a boat propeller in the junkyard for teams to use- one that would pass an inspection as being safe to use- or nobody's building a boat that day and you have no show. I remember one where they had to make a rocket to shoot an egg into the air and bring it down safely where they just said at the start of the show 'yeah, yeah, we're hiding rockets in the junkyard, so sue us; they still have to find them and figure out how to use them and that's really the goal here, right? We're still called The Learning Channel at this point in the network's life, after all'.


I remember the rocket episode. At the time my dad, brother and I were into model rocketry as a hobby, and we were critiquing both teams' designs as the episode went along. I was impressed that one team thought to do a cone-stabilized rocket rather than a fin-stabilized one, but I also suspect they were coached just a tad.

Best episode had to be the amphibious vehicle episode. Watching a team from the Royal Navy get schooled by a bunch of bikers. Hilarious.
 
2012-12-05 08:21:06 AM  
Many thanks to the compliments.

I WAS pretty proud of that post when I hit submit.
 
2012-12-05 09:20:27 AM  

borg: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.

Barry isn't that old his mom has been on at least three times she (or the actress) looks like she's only 78-80ish.


Barry Weiss is 53.
 
2012-12-05 09:25:18 AM  
i796.photobucket.com 


/oblig
 
2012-12-05 09:52:58 AM  

HempHead: borg: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.

Barry isn't that old his mom has been on at least three times she (or the actress) looks like she's only 78-80ish.

Barry Weiss is 53.


Man he has not aged well. 53 and he looks like he's pushing 70.
 
2012-12-05 09:58:27 AM  
The newest "reality" show that only after a few episodes of watching I can't watch any more is Bid and Destroy. It also dosen't help that one of the owners sounds to much like Ray Romano.
 
2012-12-05 10:05:44 AM  
This show might be fake but that one about moon shiners, that one's totally real, right? RIGHT?
 
2012-12-05 10:23:43 AM  

HempHead: borg: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.

Barry isn't that old his mom has been on at least three times she (or the actress) looks like she's only 78-80ish.

Barry Weiss is 53.


Wrong Barry Weiss...the 53yo is the record company guy (Island/Def Jam Records).

The Storage Wars Barry is "in his 60's" (60 or 61 from what I've read)
 
2012-12-05 10:42:18 AM  

yequalsy: This show might be fake but that one about moon shiners, that one's totally real, right? RIGHT?


The still is real (and a whole lot better constructed than most of them). I'm sure the rest of the show is staged.
 
2012-12-05 11:16:35 AM  

chevydeuce: HempHead: borg: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

Barry.

Barry is the star.

We all tune in to see what that weird, creepy old guy will come up with this week.

Barry isn't that old his mom has been on at least three times she (or the actress) looks like she's only 78-80ish.

Barry Weiss is 53.

Wrong Barry Weiss...the 53yo is the record company guy (Island/Def Jam Records).

The Storage Wars Barry is "in his 60's" (60 or 61 from what I've read)


Why does Storage War's Barry not have a Wikipedia entry? Or Brandi?

Get busy people!
 
2012-12-05 11:45:28 AM  

Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.


I thought Brandy's byoobs were the star.
 
2012-12-05 12:25:06 PM  
How the fark does Storage Wars season premiere get green lit, but NO threads exist on Sons of Anarchy's season FINALE???

Something is very wrong in the world of Fark.
 
2012-12-05 01:23:28 PM  

brianbankerus: Donnchadha: Dave Hester is the star of that show? I thought he was the annoying villain guy.

Besides, the star is clearly... uh... the... um.... I'd say the chick, but she's farking annoying too.

I thought Brandy's byoobs were the star.


they are, much like I am sure tons tune into American Pickers to look at Danielle. Because those two homosexuals sure aren't much of a draw. Those two guys ARE ghey, right?
 
2012-12-05 01:45:21 PM  

The Goon Show: The newest "reality" show that only after a few episodes of watching I can't watch any more is Bid and Destroy. It also dosen't help that one of the owners sounds to much like Ray Romano.


I actually sort of liked what I saw of Bid And Destroy. I think it's mostly because the show is based here in NH and so it has a certain local flavor to it, it's cool thinking "hey, I've seen that place off the highway before." But I don't have any illusions that it's a bit contrived; again, the 1% of cool stuff that makes for good TV outweighs all the banal. And some things...the time they were tearing apart a house on a college campus and found, outside under a tarp, an old stadium light and chair from the Boston Garden? Finding it there is a bit far-fetched to start, but as if it would be under a tarp and in great condition outside in New England? Doubtful.

Plus, now I feel dirty for having partaken in a little reality TV. At least it was on-demand.
 
2012-12-05 01:50:20 PM  

basemetal: [celebritywonder.ugo.com image 399x600]

I don't care, I like watching Barry. He's a cool dude.


He needs his own spin off. I like how he's got a new look for every show... LOL

That said, I might hve watch 10 shows........

/reality tv SUX
 
2012-12-05 03:02:43 PM  

TheraTx: I have wanted them to run into these guys


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-05 07:19:44 PM  
Why would you want your reality to be real?
 
2012-12-05 09:52:06 PM  
Ah, sweet, I am still safe, Auction Hunters is still real.
 
2012-12-06 01:01:49 PM  

Another Government Employee: yequalsy: This show might be fake but that one about moon shiners, that one's totally real, right? RIGHT?

The still is real (and a whole lot better constructed than most of them). I'm sure the rest of the show is staged.


Real equipment, but they're not distilling anything. I quit watching the episode when they realized the boil wasn't producing enough alcohol content, so they added sugar to the boil.

It doesn't work that way!

Also, the interview with the cop on the show who stated that if there was any actual lawbreaking, they would be obliged to arrest them, show or not.
 
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