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		Police want phone providers to save all texts..for two years..by the way, T- mobile does not save them at all. Verizon? Every damn one you've ever made (news.cnet.com)		169
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Frederick		2012-12-04 06:23:09 AM

....and guess which company is in bed with the FBI, CIA, NSA? Gee, do you suppose there are benefits to that compliance?

DON.MAC		2012-12-04 07:17:53 AM

Most of the ADSL internet equipment is now sitting in rooms in phone exchanges that were allocated for recording gear in the middle of the cold war.

Pista		2012-12-04 08:21:25 AM

Do people still send texts?

Cythraul		2012-12-04 08:31:16 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

It's better than trying to communicate via photos of yourself in various poses of nude interpretive dance. Trust me.

Diogenes		2012-12-04 09:14:16 AM

Frederick: ....and guess which company is in bed with the FBI, CIA, NSA? Gee, do you suppose there are benefits to that compliance?

I see my services are not required here.

Rincewind53		2012-12-04 09:49:18 AM

Subby: " Verizon? Every damn one you've ever made"
FTFA: "Verizon keeps 'text message content on their servers for 3-5 days.'"

??

Diogenes		2012-12-04 10:00:07 AM

Rincewind53: Subby: " Verizon? Every damn one you've ever made"
FTFA: "Verizon keeps 'text message content on their servers for 3-5 days.'"

??

That only applies to the servers. It doesn't speak to record retention in general.

the801		2012-12-04 11:30:37 AM

uh-oh. now the illuminati knows when and where i'm going to meet my cousin for lunch. it's an italian place. italians are facist. it's a byob place and she's bringing a bottle of wine - the illuminati know our weakness!

this is the end of civilization.

Haliburton Cummings		2012-12-04 11:30:37 AM

b ovr in 10min. whtvr.
eabod bgbrthr

frepnog		2012-12-04 11:30:52 AM

I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

de_Selby		2012-12-04 11:31:28 AM

Yay T-mobile - also uses the GSM standard so I can swap out my SIM cards when going to Europe ....

janeuner		2012-12-04 11:32:14 AM

I ♥ T-Mobile.

snocone		2012-12-04 11:32:47 AM

If you can save every bit o porn on a hard drive(many, many, prolly) you can certainly preserve a few phone calls.

skankboy		2012-12-04 11:33:27 AM

de_Selby: Yay T-mobile - also uses the GSM standard so I can swap out my SIM cards when going to Europe ....

Tell us more, Professor!

The Southern Logic Company		2012-12-04 11:33:34 AM

Why are we still using SMS anyway? Why haven't US carriers switched to email like in Japan yet?

Oh right, money.

olapbill		2012-12-04 11:34:26 AM

that's a lot of pictures of my peener.

Bender The Offender		2012-12-04 11:34:28 AM

The NSA now knows I asked my friend if he "Has a quarter". Stupid police state world. Right after I lose 5 pounds from my butt. I'm going to eat more cheetohs.

snocone		2012-12-04 11:35:01 AM

frepnog: I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

One of the basic tennants of spookdom is never let the suckers know how much you know.
If you knew how detailed the report was, you would feel targeted.

Amos Quito		2012-12-04 11:35:19 AM

HEY CONGRESS:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Feel free to ignore that, just like you have the rest of the Constitution.

/Carry on

The Stealth Hippopotamus		2012-12-04 11:35:36 AM

HAHA The jokes on them! Most of the people I send them to dont want them!!

xrayspx		2012-12-04 11:36:57 AM

You know, it's just like the '70s and '80s when the US Postal Service would keep copies of all letters and stored them so that law enforcement could use them later. Same thing, no big deal.

In other news, people should use encrypted SMS clients (TextSecure). Would I rather trust every cop and every carrier, or trust Moxie? I've made my choice.

frepnog		2012-12-04 11:37:19 AM

snocone: frepnog: I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

One of the basic tennants of spookdom is never let the suckers know how much you know.
If you knew how detailed the report was, you would feel targeted.

that has nothing to do with anything. all i want is to be able to log into verizon's site and pull the txt logs on a per-phone basis. I pay the bill, I want to see what the hell is going on.

Smeggy Smurf		2012-12-04 11:37:47 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

You must not know any teenagers.

dj_spanmaster		2012-12-04 11:38:06 AM

Awesome! So I can go to Verizon and dig up all my sexts?

dj_spanmaster		2012-12-04 11:38:52 AM

(boom goes the profile)

PJ-		2012-12-04 11:38:54 AM

My question is, how do they handle disposable cell phones that have either no name attached to it or a fake one attached to it?

Amos Quito		2012-12-04 11:38:57 AM

dj_spanmaster: Awesome! So I can go to Verizon and dig up all my sexts?

No, YOU can't, but THEY can.

Pants full of macaroni!!		2012-12-04 11:39:06 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

I am reliably informed that that is the only way people communicate with one another nowadays.

Optimus Primate		2012-12-04 11:40:10 AM

Does it count when I use generic terms like "herb salad" when texting certain vendors?

NashMcNash		2012-12-04 11:41:44 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

Let me guess. There's some new hip thing that I've probably never heard of? I guess me and every single person I know will just have to wait until that new hip thing goes mainstream. By then, you'll be on to something else. Must be awesome being so advanced.

farkingatwork		2012-12-04 11:42:03 AM

Amos Quito: dj_spanmaster: Awesome! So I can go to Verizon and dig up all my sexts?

No, YOU can't, but THEY can.

it'a almost ironic. This would actually be useful for people, but no - instead it's for gov't.
/facepalm

frepnog		2012-12-04 11:44:41 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Pista: Do people still send texts?

I am reliably informed that that is the only way people communicate with one another nowadays.

that is pretty accurate. my first cell that featured texting, i never used the feature. seemed so stupid, why not just call? but then over time and phone upgrades it happened - i realized i was texting FAR more than actual calls were made. Now, I rarely call anyone. i just text.

iheartscotch		2012-12-04 11:44:44 AM

The joke is on the CIA/ FBI/ police; I communicate exclusively with captioned pictures of owls with funny looks on their faces.

Day_Old_Dutchie		2012-12-04 11:46:08 AM

Amos Quito: HEY CONGRESS:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Feel free to ignore that, just like you have the rest of the Constitution.

/Carry on

Pigs are greedy. It's their nature.

FatherChaos		2012-12-04 11:46:16 AM

Great Janitor		2012-12-04 11:49:08 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

Until they add a voice feature to my cell, it's pretty much texts

Sultan Of Herf		2012-12-04 11:49:56 AM

frepnog: I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

One of the phone companies I was with in the past (dont recall which) kinda did that...you could see if the text was incoming or outgoing, and who it came from/went to. The one im with now (Sprint) simply tells you how many you have used so far this billing period.

Dinjiin		2012-12-04 11:51:00 AM

The Southern Logic Company: Why are we still using SMS anyway? Why haven't US carriers switched to ~~email~~ fax machines like in Japan yet?

FTFY

NateAsbestos		2012-12-04 11:51:04 AM

olapbill		2012-12-04 11:52:01 AM

iheartscotch: The joke is on the CIA/ FBI/ police; I communicate exclusively with captioned pictures of owls with funny looks on their faces.

ORLY?

litespeed74		2012-12-04 11:52:18 AM

Pista: Do people still send texts?

Well duh, you must not drive or have a commute.

SultanofSchwing		2012-12-04 11:52:32 AM

Time to send the g/f a texty photo care package of my junk. Retain this on your servers!

Onkel Buck		2012-12-04 11:55:38 AM

Good thing Barry repealed the Patriot Act...oh wait

HeartBurnKid		2012-12-04 11:56:17 AM

And that's why I like T-Mobile.

StoPPeRmobile		2012-12-04 11:56:19 AM

Bender The Offender: The NSA now knows I asked my friend if he "Has a quarter". Stupid police state world. Right after I lose 5 pounds from my butt. I'm going to eat more cheetohs.

It's funny how, the creep, just keeps happening. Never farking stops.

PirateKing		2012-12-04 11:57:27 AM

Some days I can't wait for CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN.

StoPPeRmobile		2012-12-04 11:58:13 AM

Is it illegal to be anonymous yet?

frepnog		2012-12-04 11:59:50 AM

Sultan Of Herf: frepnog: I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

One of the phone companies I was with in the past (dont recall which) kinda did that...you could see if the text was incoming or outgoing, and who it came from/went to. The one im with now (Sprint) simply tells you how many you have used so far this billing period.

i can still see that with verizon. I WANT THE TXTS.

snocone		2012-12-04 12:01:01 PM

frepnog: snocone: frepnog: I simply want the ability as the account holder to SEE every farking text sent on the website on a per-phone basis.

I have no idea why I can not.

One of the basic tennants of spookdom is never let the suckers know how much you know.
If you knew how detailed the report was, you would feel targeted.

that has nothing to do with anything. all i want is to be able to log into verizon's site and pull the txt logs on a per-phone basis. I pay the bill, I want to see what the hell is going on.

Since when does paying the bill entitle you to squat?
Sweet concept though.

A politician is a fellow that will lay down your money/life for his country.

Coastalgrl		2012-12-04 12:02:11 PM

Is this part of the SOPA thing which was voted down but they are still trying to shove down our throats?

Becoming a police state due to technology.

/really no clue.

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