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(Ars Technica)   Verizon patents set top box that listens to what's going on in your house, then delivers targeted ads to your TV. "We can hear you now"   (arstechnica.com) divider line 41
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2012-12-04 05:13:25 AM
9 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-12-04 08:50:32 AM
7 votes:
1. Put laptop near set-top box.

2. Stream endless porn with volume up.

3. Profit.
2012-12-04 08:49:14 AM
6 votes:

SurfaceTension: //who do you trust more? those with a motive to get your vote or those who are motivated to get your money?


You seem to be under the impression they're not one and the same
2012-12-04 09:03:43 AM
5 votes:

Gordon Bennett: The next step will be to make it illegal to have an off switch on your TV.

[math.ucsd.edu image 512x384]


4.bp.blogspot.com
2012-12-04 09:22:11 AM
4 votes:

DeathCipris: CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?

People that A) know no better. B) don't care (the kind of people that have a public facebook/twitter profile). C) think it's neat (see brain-damaged). D) were upsold by Verizon for some bullshiat new "feature" that they have to "upgrade" for.


E) have no other option because it ends up being put on everything, like DRM, which will prompt a huge spike in cable theft from people who still want the product but not the "added features".

Capitalism nowadays is not about making money by selling people what they want to buy, but making money by forcing people to buy what you want to sell (and then suing them for trying to get what they actually want).
2012-12-04 09:06:37 AM
4 votes:

CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?


Sure, just make it so that people who have it in their homes get a discount on their bill. People like to save money!

Just like how the Progressive Snapshot saves you money by recording your driving habits....
2012-12-04 09:02:38 AM
3 votes:

PreMortem: Mheh, the government already is through your cellphone.


In the 1970's the whacko conspiracy theorists said the government was going to plant tracking devices on everyone.

If you had suggested that it would be the private sector and everyone would pay for the privilege you'd have been sent to the insane asylum.
2012-12-04 07:43:11 AM
3 votes:
Mheh, the government already is through your cellphone.
2012-12-04 10:19:15 AM
2 votes:

OnlyM3: Crewmannumber6

Nobody says you have to get one. They originally said that about "black boxes" in cars too.


If it is just looked at during an auto accident and no other time, I really don't have an issue with it.

If it's able to be viewed remotely by some government agency, and then remotely ticket drivers for speeding, used to create an additional tax for those who (like me) drive in excess of 20,000 a year, and sends my driving information to my insurance company who will then adjust my rates accordingly...then I'll never buy a car newer than 2014.

The product that scares me right now is the 'Snapshot' being used by Progressive. Right now as far as I know they are the only company that offers it (because they are the only one that advertises it), but it plugs into your car's computer and records EVERYTHING you do. The auto insurance industry has tried (and failed) for several decades to get those required for all cars, but thankfully, Congress (in a rare example of doing something right) has blocked it.
2012-12-04 09:24:07 AM
2 votes:
So when the box catches a couple of horny teens on the couch, they're guilty of creating and possessing kiddie porn, right?
2012-12-04 09:00:08 AM
2 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What's a set-top box?

/TiVo and cablecards FTW


Who still has a tv with a top big enough to set anything on?
2012-12-04 08:59:21 AM
2 votes:

CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?


People that A) know no better. B) don't care (the kind of people that have a public facebook/twitter profile). C) think it's neat (see brain-damaged). D) were upsold by Verizon for some bullshiat new "feature" that they have to "upgrade" for.
2012-12-04 08:55:53 AM
2 votes:
The next step will be to make it illegal to have an off switch on your TV.

math.ucsd.edu
2012-12-04 08:51:52 AM
2 votes:
Targeted ads based on what is going on in the house... that might make for uncomfortable family visits for some Farkers...

"Hey son, why are there so many ads for anal lube, Broadway musicals, and Doc Johnson products blasting on the TV?"
2012-12-04 04:36:17 PM
1 votes:

Saberus Terras: Great Janitor: anarchy_x: my dad swears the cable company has been doing this since the 70's

I used to work for a company that did those Life Alert units (the commercial had the old lady on the floor, she pressed a button and screamed "I've fallen, and I can't get up!"). About once a day I'd get an alert from some old man saying that he was about to have an important and private conversation with someone and he didn't want us listening in and was going to briefly unplug his unit. It did no good to tell him that it only operated when he pressed the button or remote. He just assumed it was always on.

I'm assuming he was still watching porn, even at that age.


My post might be a bit confusing, but it wasn't just one old man, it was a bunch of old people who'd call up to let us know that they didn't want us listening in at that moment. Some would call to tell us that they were unplugging the unit. Some told us to turn the volume down on our end, it was an amusing aspect of the job.

Biggest example of the clients not knowing how they worked: married clients are in a car wreck, she's injured and needs medical help. Their family is yelling at us because the device, which plugs into their land line phone, was not working when they were pressing the necklace remote from their car on the freeway. Worse part about that job wasn't the old people who didn't understand technology, it was their families who didn't understand what we did. One canceled because we weren't doing any form of home health service or assistance with medication and said that the price we were charging was too much to not offer that stuff. I asked him "Sir, you're paying less than $50 a month, in what universe were you expecting seven day a week at home nursing and medication for only $50?"
2012-12-04 01:07:48 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: corronchilejano


Uranus Is Huge!: Welcome to Obama's America!

Thanks a lot libs!

Truly, if Romney was president he'd give Verizon all the tax cuts they need to make sure they don't need to do this to make a profit.
Instead we get the obamessiah who makes sure they won't need a warrant.

gps w/o warrant

Detention w/o charge, trial, or warrant

Wiretaps w/o warrant

and so on, and so on, and so on.......

/// bush's fault.... right?


From your own damn links.
Detention w/o trial: "Under the Bush administration, similar claims of worldwide detention authority were used to hold even a U.S. citizen detained on U.S. soil in military custody"
GPS tracking: First off, article is from a HEAVILY right-wing news organization. Second, it talks how SCOTUS ruled that it IS a violation of the 4th Amendment. The article says "Obama is pushing for it" but declines to provide any evidence that is the case. Third, this is the Justice Dept. challenging the ruling in a 9th Circuit Court. Fourth, and best of all, "The Supreme Court instructed the Ninth Circuit to reconsider the case in light of the Jones decision." from the link to the actual article.
Wiretaps w/o warrant: "Warrantless wiretapping, when initiated by the Bush administration..." NEWSFLASH, GENIUS! Email is unencrypted when it is sent across the internet! So are VOIP calls! *gasp!* All of that can be intercepted by ANYONE. This is just data logging. If you don't want the government, or anyone else for that matter, in your business, try encrypting your shiat.

So yea, still going with Bush.

You are typical teabagger, fundie, lying-spouting trashing, who at any moment, do these mental gymnastics to blame Obama for everything. I would say use your brain, but I doubt you have one. Maybe you can go with the Scarecrow to Oz, and if you are lucky, the wizard will have two brains.
2012-12-04 12:06:10 PM
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: Why would people do this?


www.motherjones.com
2012-12-04 11:32:19 AM
1 votes:
Anybody with kids will get nothing but ads for cereal, condoms and ear plugs
2012-12-04 11:21:55 AM
1 votes:
you: 'this weed sucks. we need to find someone with decent s***.'

your tv:
commercial 1: bob's fertilizer has all the natural fertilizer you could ever need!
commerical 2: your **** sucks? call 555-drug and get the best crack in town!
commercial 3: at Long Boring Days Rehab we care for you and want to help you with your drug problem. Check in now and we won't tell the police what you've been saying in front of your TV.
2012-12-04 10:14:51 AM
1 votes:
You people are all too short-sighted. People will not only embrace this, they will do so willingly.

You choose.

Verizon A) Standard Set-top box with all the fixings - $120 per month
Verizon B) Intelligent Set-top box with added features - $80 per month.


/sheeple
2012-12-04 10:02:29 AM
1 votes:
If you drop you pants and backup close to the camera, Verizon won't know whether you've just placed a mirror in front of the camera.and they're viewing themselves or what.

maddogmedia.files.wordpress.com
2012-12-04 10:00:31 AM
1 votes:

A Terrible Human: KarmicDisaster: It is probably more than 1/3 that applies here, since "high speed" is considered to be 5 Mb for government purposes. I can only get 5Mbit at my house in the country, and it lags to even slower during peak hours. That "high speed" is not really high enough for reliable streaming.I'm lucky to get even that, no cable out here, only DSL. There are going to be quite a few households that are unable to stream video for quite some time to come, so yeah.

What the hell. I live in a small rural town in southeast Ky and I have cable dsl,my average download speed is 23mbs and it's cheap.


Funny thing is, a guy about a mile away does have cable. They strung the line for about a mile through the trees to get to his house, no poles. Not sure if he did that himself or what or how long it will last like that. Anyway, the cable company does not feel like putting in poles or burying a cable for miles just to pick up a couple people that might not even subscribe. There is a lot of space in parts of the country. There was WIMAX but the tower caught fire and they aren't replacing it plus I would need a tower with a gain antenna to pick it up.
2012-12-04 09:57:51 AM
1 votes:

dervish16108: DeathCipris: CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?

People that A) know no better. B) don't care (the kind of people that have a public facebook/twitter profile). C) think it's neat (see brain-damaged). D) were upsold by Verizon for some bullshiat new "feature" that they have to "upgrade" for.

I wonder if those people who were in favor of the Patriot Act ("I've got nothing to hide, and you shouldn't either, citizen!") would be in favor of this too.


no matter how far gov't or private sector takes the Big Brother the bulk of the worker bees will continue to scoff at the thought that it was not some ugly turban wearing cave dwelling boogie man that was responsible for 9-11. people are idiots.
2012-12-04 09:57:22 AM
1 votes:
www.theanfieldwrap.com
2012-12-04 09:48:22 AM
1 votes:

Burr: JackieRabbit: Do people still use DVRs? Seems rather last decade to me, since any content can be be streamed Netflix, Amazon, iTunes and a several other places.

Just so you know, even though we live this wonderful age of technology, about 1/3 of the US still doesn't have access to unlimited high speed broadband. I use a mobile broadband card, and my cap is 5GB a month, so no streaming for me. Of course, I am lucky enough to live just close enough to a cell phone tower so that is an option. If I lived about a mile down the road, I would be screwed.


It is probably more than 1/3 that applies here, since "high speed" is considered to be 5 Mb for government purposes. I can only get 5Mbit at my house in the country, and it lags to even slower during peak hours. That "high speed" is not really high enough for reliable streaming.I'm lucky to get even that, no cable out here, only DSL. There are going to be quite a few households that are unable to stream video for quite some time to come, so yeah.
2012-12-04 09:43:22 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: Do people still use DVRs? Seems rather last decade to me, since any content can be be streamed Netflix, Amazon, iTunes and a several other places.


Just so you know, even though we live this wonderful age of technology, about 1/3 of the US still doesn't have access to unlimited high speed broadband. I use a mobile broadband card, and my cap is 5GB a month, so no streaming for me. Of course, I am lucky enough to live just close enough to a cell phone tower so that is an option. If I lived about a mile down the road, I would be screwed.
2012-12-04 09:42:42 AM
1 votes:
If I fart at the cable box, will it automatically turn the channel over to Fox News?
2012-12-04 09:34:44 AM
1 votes:

Fast Moon: DeathCipris: CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?

People that A) know no better. B) don't care (the kind of people that have a public facebook/twitter profile). C) think it's neat (see brain-damaged). D) were upsold by Verizon for some bullshiat new "feature" that they have to "upgrade" for.

E) have no other option because it ends up being put on everything, like DRM, which will prompt a huge spike in cable theft from people who still want the product but not the "added features".

Capitalism nowadays is not about making money by selling people what they want to buy, but making money by forcing people to buy what you want to sell (and then suing them for trying to get what they actually want).


Here, here to that! I am working on getting a better video on demand setup in my home. I hate all of the advertising on TV and would much rather have the far better quality DVD/BlueRay boxset of whatever show it is that I am watching.

A bit off topic here, but can anyone recommend any good video streaming software? I already have a server in place and am currently using TVersity, but their streaming support for PS3 is weak at best. Half the damn codecs don't load properly and I get a fail to launch on the video. I used to use ORB, but that software got WAY too resource intense, so much so it almost needs its own system.
2012-12-04 09:28:41 AM
1 votes:
2012 - Bagumpity patents a set-top box that continually whispers keyword phrases to the other set-top box in order to decrease the percentage of feminine hygiene, male enhancement, payday/title loan, reverse mortgage, state minimum auto insurance, and crappy auto manufacturer advertisements.

Basically, the idea is to convince the cable company that all you want to see between reruns of semi-popular sitcoms are beer advertisements featuring scantily clad bikini models.

I've always thought that they needed a "this commercial sucks! I'd never buy that product in a million years!" button on the remote.
2012-12-04 09:21:27 AM
1 votes:
www.the-prisoner-6.freeserve.co.uk
2012-12-04 09:18:13 AM
1 votes:

Chabash: What happens when they are forced to become mandatory reporters?


Forced? They'll just sell your info to the highest bidder like FB does.
MFK
2012-12-04 09:06:08 AM
1 votes:
HOW ABOUT NO? 
2012-12-04 09:03:48 AM
1 votes:
What happens when they are forced to become mandatory reporters?
2012-12-04 09:01:17 AM
1 votes:

DeathCipris: CujoQuarrel: Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?

People that A) know no better. B) don't care (the kind of people that have a public facebook/twitter profile). C) think it's neat (see brain-damaged). D) were upsold by Verizon for some bullshiat new "feature" that they have to "upgrade" for.


I wonder if those people who were in favor of the Patriot Act ("I've got nothing to hide, and you shouldn't either, citizen!") would be in favor of this too.
2012-12-04 08:58:40 AM
1 votes:

THX 1138: 1. Put laptop near set-top box.

2. Stream endless porn with volume up.

3. Profit.


You'd get tons of ads from Trojan brand condoms, birth control for women and viagra.
2012-12-04 08:56:19 AM
1 votes:
Is there anyone who would allow this monstrosity into their homes?
2012-12-04 08:54:18 AM
1 votes:
eshop.macsales.com

Problem Solved.
2012-12-04 08:52:32 AM
1 votes:
Patent application != patent.
2012-12-04 08:47:44 AM
1 votes:

PreMortem: Mheh, the government already is through your cellphone.


This has nothing to do with the government. It's entirely in the private sector.

/just goes to show how evil the private sector can be
//who do you trust more? those with a motive to get your vote or those who are motivated to get your money?
2012-12-04 06:26:40 AM
1 votes:
I see it now. Cat food ads 24/7.
2012-12-04 06:03:35 AM
1 votes:
This is a good headline
 
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